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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Most Americans will remember this one as the Biden/Harris shutdown since they are the President and Vice President.

It's on them. [/quote]

Wrong.  It's well known that there was a deal in place and that Musk killed it.  Keep dreaming, it ain't happening.[/quote]

Well, Dems have the WH and the Senate so they are in control and they have the power until January 20 so Dems own this one thanks to Biden. [/quote]

I realize you’re trolling but at least try to be accurate. The new Congress convenes January 3. Johnson will have even fewer Republican votes to lose.[/quote]

PP isn’t trolling but pointing out who is in office TODAY when this is all happening. Hint: it’s not the new congress and Trump.[/quote]

Yes. It’s Johnson who is speaker of the House, which is where appropriations bills originate. Seems he didn’t get around to it.

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A bill was just put forward that Dems shot down. Guess they want a shutdown.

But again, this is Biden’s term and a shutdown is occurring on his watch. He should get busy.[/quote]
You’re not well informed. It was a bipartisan bill that was expected to pass with Dem support until Musk blew it up with the intention of Gov shut down. Musk isn’t in Congress. He doesn’t have a vote. He cannot manipulate an already accepted bill. Don’t you get it? Musk wants a shut down. MAGA wants a shut down because their base is stupid enough to blame it on Biden. The President does not control Congress. Yet, the DOGE dickhead and his hollow puppet president elect do not have the power to influence the vote. It’s unconstitutional. Johnson is a beta.[/quote]

lol I’m perfectly well informed. Elon doesn’t have a vote like you said, he is a private citizen like many who raised their voices and said enough! Enough of the massive pork laden spending bills forced in under emergency terms and if that causes a shutdown, then too bad. Operations need to change. Get it?

Looks like Biden has canceled his holiday in Delaware and returned to DC to do his job so that’s good. He is still the president. This shut down is happening under his watch. [/quote]
Nope. It’s happening under Johnson’s watch. He is the SOH. Biden is POTUS. They have separate duties and responsibilities. Johnson’s duty is to get an appropriation bill through Congress.  Biden’s job is to veto or approve such bill once it’s placed on his desk. The freaking end.[/quote]

Your using pretty big words for MAGA[/quote]
you're I mean[/quote]

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