why doesn't hamas surrender?

[Anonymous]

For someone to surrender, they need to care about something - suffering of their people or even just their own lives. Terrorists don’t care about anything or anyone, and so they will never surrender.

[Anonymous]

Plus Hamas is living fat and happy down in the tunnels.

[Anonymous]

Leaked 2001: Netanyahu was caught on video boasting to a group of settlers:

"I de facto put an end to the Oslo Accords.”

“I don’t care if the U.S. perceives Israel as the aggressor.”

“Especially with the U.S. I know what America is. America is a thing you can easily move in the right direction. And even if they say something, so what.”

“80% of Americans support us— It’s absurd.”

“I wasn’t afraid to confront Clinton. I wasn’t afraid to go against the UN.”

July 24, 2024 Netanyahu’s address to Congress on Gaza: His blueprint was solidified.

“Israel's fight is your fight, we’re protecting you. If you remember one thing, one thing from this speech, remember this: Our enemies are your enemies, our fight is your fight, and our victory will be your victory.”

“Yet in the heart of the Middle East, standing in Iran's way, is one proud pro-American democracy—my country, the State of Israel.”

“That's why the mobs in Tehran chant "Death to Israel" before they chant "Death to America."

“For Iran Israel is first, America is next. So, when Israel fights Hamas, we're fighting Iran. When we fight Hezbollah, we're fighting Iran. When we fight the Houthis, we're fighting Iran. And when we fight Iran, we're fighting the most radical and murderous enemy of the United States of America.”

“And one more thing. When Israel acts to prevent Iran from developing nuclear weapons, nuclear weapons that could destroy Israel and threaten every American city, every city that you come from, we're not only protecting ourselves. We're protecting you.”

“Protesters are useful idiots.”

Trump is now his useful idiot

Video https://www.facebook.com/trtworld/videos/strike-themnot-once-but-several-times-so-painfully-netanyahu-in-a-2001-video/1423118978249848/

Address to Congress transcript: https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-07-25/ty-article/full-text-netanyahus-2024-address-to-congress/00000190-e6c0-d469-a39d-e6d7117d0000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The news out of Gaza is horrifying. It has made me think about past wars, and how they ended. During WWII, both Japan and Germany surrendered. They surrendered and threw themselves at the mercy of the victor. I imagine when the US withdrew from S. Vietnam, the government we propped up surrendered to N. Vietnam.

Why doesn't Hamas do this? wouldn't all this horror end if they would? One might not like to lose, but they have lost. War is like that. It is horrible and the strong win.

Hamas has agreed to multiple peace deal starting back in February 2024. Israel has said no, out right reject multiple peace deals, killed the negotiators, killed hostages, invade other countries, starved civilians, murder women and children, bombing elementary schools, hospitals, etc. Israel wants to kill all the Palestinians because only some right wing Jews are considered people. The IDF has said there are no military objectives left in Gaza for over a year and 1/2.

This is a genocide of Israelis choosing. During Oct7 Israel used tanks and artillery on Israeli civilians vs negotiate with under 100 fighters. Israel is evil. Try to stay informed about what is going on in Israel.

I think a peace deal is different than surrender? Surrender is when you admit that your country now belongs to the victor and they can do what they want. You throw yourself at the victor's mercy. I think if Hamas through themselves on the victor's mercy, other nations would put a lot of pressure on Israel to bring in tons of food.

Israel does not recognize them as a state. Completely different from wwii wrt Germany, Japan, etc. so how would their surrender work? Israel does not think that they should live in their “country.’

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why doesn't Israel remove their settlers?

Uh, they are not in Gaza. And every single poster not agreeing Hamas could just end this is truly delusional.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For someone to surrender, they need to care about something - suffering of their people or even just their own lives. Terrorists don’t care about anything or anyone, and so they will never surrender.

No you need the other side to accept the surrender. Just like the Nazis did not accept surrender its descendant(Israel) does the same thing. Father like son.

[Anonymous]

Who will be in charge of Gaza if they do surrender? Israel? Or will Hamas just surrender, give the hostages back and it will be business as usual?

I was initially on Israel’s side with this because I was so horrified by 10/7. But this is just so sad and terrible. I feel helpless watching the news because there seems to be nothing we can do.

[Anonymous]

Victim blaming

Why didn't the woman being raped just have consensual sex?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The news out of Gaza is horrifying. It has made me think about past wars, and how they ended. During WWII, both Japan and Germany surrendered. They surrendered and threw themselves at the mercy of the victor. I imagine when the US withdrew from S. Vietnam, the government we propped up surrendered to N. Vietnam.

Why doesn't Hamas do this? wouldn't all this horror end if they would? One might not like to lose, but they have lost. War is like that. It is horrible and the strong win.

They don’t need to. They have the millions of dupes believing Israel is the oppressor and that Hamas are poor whittle victims.

People are so stupid.

And I’ve lost faith and hope in humanity.

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why doesn't Israel remove their settlers?

Uh, they are not in Gaza. And every single poster not agreeing Hamas could just end this is truly delusional.

So long as the settlers continue there will always be Hamas.

[Anonymous]

Hamas has tried to surrender but Israel has made clear they will be destroyed anyway. So if the choices are destruction upon surrender or destruction you may as well keep fighting.

For those who think the blame lies entirely with Hamas, take a closer look to the terms Israel has offered Hamas. They don’t want Hamas to surrender, they want to make Gaza uninhabitable and push the Palestinians out and claim the land. Thats genocide and a war crime.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hamas has tried to surrender but Israel has made clear they will be destroyed anyway. So if the choices are destruction upon surrender or destruction you may as well keep fighting.

For those who think the blame lies entirely with Hamas, take a closer look to the terms Israel has offered Hamas. They don’t want Hamas to surrender, they want to make Gaza uninhabitable and push the Palestinians out and claim the land. Thats genocide and a war crime.

What are the terms you deem so terrible? Hamas has repeatedly rejected any agreement, no matter how favorable. So I’m very interested in your view of what terms are so awful that it confirms for you that Israel doesn’t want surrender?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hamas has tried to surrender but Israel has made clear they will be destroyed anyway. So if the choices are destruction upon surrender or destruction you may as well keep fighting.

For those who think the blame lies entirely with Hamas, take a closer look to the terms Israel has offered Hamas. They don’t want Hamas to surrender, they want to make Gaza uninhabitable and push the Palestinians out and claim the land. Thats genocide and a war crime.

After WWII, the US effectively governed Japan and Germany. It is true, however, that they did not push the people out. They did bring at least the Germany Nazi's to trial for crimes.

[Anonymous]

Israel’s plan is to annex Gaza and expel the Palestinian people. That’s why.