why doesn't hamas surrender?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If this is a genocide, Israel sucks at it. More than 30 months in and the Palestinians keep birthing babies and carrying on. You’d think they’d be more efficient.

With your mindset, Hitler was also terribly inefficient and sucked at genocide, because the Jewish people kept having babies. Lots and lots of them in fact.

Actually, they didn’t. The Jewish population in 1940 was about 16.5 million. Today it’s 15.7 million. Six million Jews died in the Holocaust and then they’ve been subject to persecution across North Africa and the Middle East at the hands of Islamists in places like Iraq, Iran, Tunisia, etc further diminishing populations and fertility rates.

It doesn’t mean Palestinians are thriving. But to say that Jews have somehow rebounded from an actual genocide by having “lots of babies” is not true. On the other hand, Palestinian birth rates have skyrocketed over the last two decades; one of the reasons why its population is very young and vulnerable.

By your own wording , you are incorrect because the only way the Jewish population would have not lost significant numbers after six million dead is either lots of babies or there were no mass genocides of Sephardic/Middle East Jews.

There’s no way there would only be a population decline of 800,000 if there was consecutive Jewish genocide in Europe and the Middle East.

Either Jews had tons of babies or the Middle East didn’t kill their Jews

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You really think that's what this is about? Oh you poor sweet summer child.

yes, I do. and I guess I am a child. so explain it to me. why not just surrender, as always happened in the past?

Because when someone steals your land, you fight back. Never surrender.

[Anonymous]

Seriously. Are we having this conversation in America? We never surrender.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Israel has rejected every peace deal even the one it proposed. Hamas has agreed to what 4 or 6 peace deals?

Also Israel has said there is no surrender for Hamas. All Hamas will be killed on sight even if they are surrendering. Hamas is to be exterminated.

Since when do we allow terrorist organizations to continue? No, all Palestinians aren't Hamas. But all Hamas are Palestinians.

Do you think that Osama had some good ideas worth debating, too?

Israel is a terrorist country so not much difference there.

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Anonymous wrote:HAMAS is a death-cult.

They literally want to die in order to become martyrs.

We’re at the point in the sick f^ck arc of Zionism where you are insisting that the Palestinians actually want to be victims in a genocide. 6 year old Hind Rajab WANTED to be shot 355 times.

Please, for the love of all that’s holy … skyscraper yourself. The world would be a far better place.

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Anonymous wrote:HAMAS is a death-cult.

They literally want to die in order to become martyrs.

The AUDACITY of a ZIONIST calling someone else but THEMSELF a death cult. Your policies kill innocent children

every.single.day.

My close American friend just got back from Gaza where he volunteered as a doctor for a couple of weeks. He received multiple victims with gunshots to the head from food aid traps. He video taped it! Mostly children and teenagers.

Zionists want “Chaim” for themselves and death to everybody who resists the outright thievery of their homes.

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Marco Rubio is as slimy as Cory Booker. These men only want fame and power and will work for the highest bidder. They have absolutely no inner moral code and that is why they’ve gotten so far. They will do whatever it takes to gain power.

[Anonymous]

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Glad we finally have an adult leading State.

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Glad we finally have an adult leading State.

What self-defense?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:HAMAS is a death-cult.

They literally want to die in order to become martyrs.

The AUDACITY of a ZIONIST calling someone else but THEMSELF a death cult. Your policies kill innocent children

every.single.day.

My close American friend just got back from Gaza where he volunteered as a doctor for a couple of weeks. He received multiple victims with gunshots to the head from food aid traps. He video taped it! Mostly children and teenagers.

Zionists want “Chaim” for themselves and death to everybody who resists the outright thievery of their homes.

You dodged the question.

It’s true that Hamas slaughtered over a thousand civilians (including attacking a civilian music festival) and continues to hold hostages, which is a flagrant human right abuse. Hamas is a designated terrorist organization.

Don’t you agree with these simple facts? (I’m not interested in your childish what-aboutisms. Do you agree or not?).

[Anonymous]

I would be happy to get on board with recognizing Palestine if Hamas surrendered. Right now, if Hamas prevailed, it would mean that you can gain statehood by slaughtering your neighbors. I can't get on board with that. I don't like what's going on in Palestine, but it's not like the violence would end if we recognized Palestine and Israel backed down. All that would change is that the violence would be in both directions. It really, really sucks that innocent people are being harmed by this, but I can't see how handing a terrorist organization a nation is the right path forward for peace. If anyone can explain it to me calmly, without calling me names, I am open to hearing because I genuinely don't understand. Right now, the argument is just "people are starving"-- which is bad, but how does statehood or Israel backing down reduce the violence when we know full well that Hamas and Iran want to continue it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would be happy to get on board with recognizing Palestine if Hamas surrendered. Right now, if Hamas prevailed, it would mean that you can gain statehood by slaughtering your neighbors. I can't get on board with that. I don't like what's going on in Palestine, but it's not like the violence would end if we recognized Palestine and Israel backed down. All that would change is that the violence would be in both directions. It really, really sucks that innocent people are being harmed by this, but I can't see how handing a terrorist organization a nation is the right path forward for peace. If anyone can explain it to me calmly, without calling me names, I am open to hearing because I genuinely don't understand. Right now, the argument is just "people are starving"-- which is bad, but how does statehood or Israel backing down reduce the violence when we know full well that Hamas and Iran want to continue it?

So Israel has legitimized itself by committing violence against the Palestinians, but the Palestinians are delegitimizing themselves by standing up to the violence? Got it. I realize that the justification for stealing their land is that a magical man in the sky says you deserve to, but maybe think critically for a minute.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:HAMAS is a death-cult.

They literally want to die in order to become martyrs.

The AUDACITY of a ZIONIST calling someone else but THEMSELF a death cult. Your policies kill innocent children

every.single.day.

My close American friend just got back from Gaza where he volunteered as a doctor for a couple of weeks. He received multiple victims with gunshots to the head from food aid traps. He video taped it! Mostly children and teenagers.

Zionists want “Chaim” for themselves and death to everybody who resists the outright thievery of their homes.

You dodged the question.

It’s true that Hamas slaughtered over a thousand civilians (including attacking a civilian music festival) and continues to hold hostages, which is a flagrant human right abuse. Hamas is a designated terrorist organization.

Don’t you agree with these simple facts? (I’m not interested in your childish what-aboutisms. Do you agree or not?).

DP. Most of the evidence suggests that the majority of Israeli civilians deaths on Oct7 were result of IDF tank and artillery fire. The area in which Oct7 happened is moderate and a stronghold of opposition against Netanyahu. One of the few areas in the country like that. It seems very convenient that this area had troops moved to other areas of Israel before the attack, the IDF showed little concern for civilians collateral damage and Israel has done nothing to get the hostages taken from the area back.

[Anonymous]

What you are seeing in Gaza has nothing to do with getting the hostages back, defense of Israel or revenge for Oct7. This is all part of the plan.