We have an epidemic of terrible parenting—what is the solution?

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Anonymous wrote:I agree. Parents are addicted to screens too and spend a lot of time on their phone instead of parenting. They are totally checked out from their kids. They don’t correct behavior, they don’t supplement education at home, there is no learning going on home bc kids are plopped in front of TV/iPad the minute they return home from school or an activity. There is very little parental engagement going on. Parents are even too lazy to actually cook food for their kids too now. Free school breakfast, free lunch, what next?


Lost me at the bolded. That is not what I meant.


Are you OP? Because I have to tell you, your post reads like a (probably White) teacher complaining about the behavioral problems of high-poverty (probably Black) kids. The solution that I have seen suggested on this site by people with similar complaints is sterilization of poor women. Is that what you are hoping for?


You’re responding to the wrong poster.


"I agree" poster is agreeing with the OP. I'm speaking to the OP, then. Is OP hoping for...idk....forced abortion according to IQ testing? Removal of children from their parents by force?


Not OP. I don’t know what the solution is. But I can you that throwing tons of tax payer money at it isn’t it. You can’t make up for poor parenting no matter how much money you throw at the failing schools and underperforming kids. Therefore, I would like to keep more of my money


You would like to defund public schools? Ok, Jan. I would like a green pony that poops money.


Defund no, but tons of money is wasted on extra programs with zero benefit


So, you want the "wasted money" reallocated to teachers or other "non-wasteful" (by your opinion) school programs? Or do you want it back into your pockets as you indicated you'd like to do?

If the latter, then that's the literal definition of defunding.


It isn’t defunding. Pay for the teachers, staff, buildings, materials, sports...normal school stuff. Stop inviting and funding additional “special programs” that are targeting to help further benefit and elevate poor kids and underperforming schools. They don’t work bc the root problem, as the topic says, is poor parenting.
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Anonymous wrote:I agree. Parents are addicted to screens too and spend a lot of time on their phone instead of parenting. They are totally checked out from their kids. They don’t correct behavior, they don’t supplement education at home, there is no learning going on home bc kids are plopped in front of TV/iPad the minute they return home from school or an activity. There is very little parental engagement going on. Parents are even too lazy to actually cook food for their kids too now. Free school breakfast, free lunch, what next?


Lost me at the bolded. That is not what I meant.


Are you OP? Because I have to tell you, your post reads like a (probably White) teacher complaining about the behavioral problems of high-poverty (probably Black) kids. The solution that I have seen suggested on this site by people with similar complaints is sterilization of poor women. Is that what you are hoping for?


You’re responding to the wrong poster.


"I agree" poster is agreeing with the OP. I'm speaking to the OP, then. Is OP hoping for...idk....forced abortion according to IQ testing? Removal of children from their parents by force?


Not OP. I don’t know what the solution is. But I can you that throwing tons of tax payer money at it isn’t it. You can’t make up for poor parenting no matter how much money you throw at the failing schools and underperforming kids. Therefore, I would like to keep more of my money


You would like to defund public schools? Ok, Jan. I would like a green pony that poops money.


Defund no, but tons of money is wasted on extra programs with zero benefit


So, you want the "wasted money" reallocated to teachers or other "non-wasteful" (by your opinion) school programs? Or do you want it back into your pockets as you indicated you'd like to do?

If the latter, then that's the literal definition of defunding.


It isn’t defunding. Pay for the teachers, staff, buildings, materials, sports...normal school stuff. Stop inviting and funding additional “special programs” that are targeting to help further benefit and elevate poor kids and underperforming schools. They don’t work bc the root problem, as the topic says, is poor parenting.


Ok, so redirect the funds to go directly to parents to pay for food for kids, instead of funneling it through school. Then parenting classes, more supports for parents because 90% of poor parenting (as you put it) is just the result of parents not having time because they are working.

Solved.
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Anonymous wrote:I agree. Parents are addicted to screens too and spend a lot of time on their phone instead of parenting. They are totally checked out from their kids. They don’t correct behavior, they don’t supplement education at home, there is no learning going on home bc kids are plopped in front of TV/iPad the minute they return home from school or an activity. There is very little parental engagement going on. Parents are even too lazy to actually cook food for their kids too now. Free school breakfast, free lunch, what next?


Lost me at the bolded. That is not what I meant.


Are you OP? Because I have to tell you, your post reads like a (probably White) teacher complaining about the behavioral problems of high-poverty (probably Black) kids. The solution that I have seen suggested on this site by people with similar complaints is sterilization of poor women. Is that what you are hoping for?


You’re responding to the wrong poster.


"I agree" poster is agreeing with the OP. I'm speaking to the OP, then. Is OP hoping for...idk....forced abortion according to IQ testing? Removal of children from their parents by force?


Not OP. I don’t know what the solution is. But I can you that throwing tons of tax payer money at it isn’t it. You can’t make up for poor parenting no matter how much money you throw at the failing schools and underperforming kids. Therefore, I would like to keep more of my money


You would like to defund public schools? Ok, Jan. I would like a green pony that poops money.


Defund no, but tons of money is wasted on extra programs with zero benefit


So, you want the "wasted money" reallocated to teachers or other "non-wasteful" (by your opinion) school programs? Or do you want it back into your pockets as you indicated you'd like to do?

If the latter, then that's the literal definition of defunding.


It isn’t defunding. Pay for the teachers, staff, buildings, materials, sports...normal school stuff. Stop inviting and funding additional “special programs” that are targeting to help further benefit and elevate poor kids and underperforming schools. They don’t work bc the root problem, as the topic says, is poor parenting.


Ok, so redirect the funds to go directly to parents to pay for food for kids, instead of funneling it through school. Then parenting classes, more supports for parents because 90% of poor parenting (as you put it) is just the result of parents not having time because they are working.

Solved.


Except that wouldn’t work. Because 90% of poor parenting isn’t bc of money- as pointed out early. Being a good parent is actual hard work. And parents- of all income levels are lazier than ever now. There are plenty of terrible wealthy parents too.
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Teacher here- Most of it is the parents. I teach in a very diverse school. Poor URM' s who have strong parents perform just as well as higher income whites. Students of ALL races and classes perform poorly when their parents don't care.

I think by middle school, parents slack off. They don't realize that at that age they need to step it up with parenting.

About 20% of the problem is bad teachers.We need to clean house.
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Anonymous wrote:I agree. Parents are addicted to screens too and spend a lot of time on their phone instead of parenting. They are totally checked out from their kids. They don’t correct behavior, they don’t supplement education at home, there is no learning going on home bc kids are plopped in front of TV/iPad the minute they return home from school or an activity. There is very little parental engagement going on. Parents are even too lazy to actually cook food for their kids too now. Free school breakfast, free lunch, what next?


Lost me at the bolded. That is not what I meant.


Are you OP? Because I have to tell you, your post reads like a (probably White) teacher complaining about the behavioral problems of high-poverty (probably Black) kids. The solution that I have seen suggested on this site by people with similar complaints is sterilization of poor women. Is that what you are hoping for?


You’re responding to the wrong poster.


"I agree" poster is agreeing with the OP. I'm speaking to the OP, then. Is OP hoping for...idk....forced abortion according to IQ testing? Removal of children from their parents by force?


Not OP. I don’t know what the solution is. But I can you that throwing tons of tax payer money at it isn’t it. You can’t make up for poor parenting no matter how much money you throw at the failing schools and underperforming kids. Therefore, I would like to keep more of my money


You would like to defund public schools? Ok, Jan. I would like a green pony that poops money.


Defund no, but tons of money is wasted on extra programs with zero benefit


So, you want the "wasted money" reallocated to teachers or other "non-wasteful" (by your opinion) school programs? Or do you want it back into your pockets as you indicated you'd like to do?

If the latter, then that's the literal definition of defunding.


It isn’t defunding. Pay for the teachers, staff, buildings, materials, sports...normal school stuff. Stop inviting and funding additional “special programs” that are targeting to help further benefit and elevate poor kids and underperforming schools. They don’t work bc the root problem, as the topic says, is poor parenting.


Ok, so redirect the funds to go directly to parents to pay for food for kids, instead of funneling it through school. Then parenting classes, more supports for parents because 90% of poor parenting (as you put it) is just the result of parents not having time because they are working.

Solved.


Except that wouldn’t work. Because 90% of poor parenting isn’t bc of money- as pointed out early. Being a good parent is actual hard work. And parents- of all income levels are lazier than ever now. There are plenty of terrible wealthy parents too.


We can’t just put our hands in the air, though.
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Anonymous wrote:I agree. Parents are addicted to screens too and spend a lot of time on their phone instead of parenting. They are totally checked out from their kids. They don’t correct behavior, they don’t supplement education at home, there is no learning going on home bc kids are plopped in front of TV/iPad the minute they return home from school or an activity. There is very little parental engagement going on. Parents are even too lazy to actually cook food for their kids too now. Free school breakfast, free lunch, what next?


Lost me at the bolded. That is not what I meant.


Are you OP? Because I have to tell you, your post reads like a (probably White) teacher complaining about the behavioral problems of high-poverty (probably Black) kids. The solution that I have seen suggested on this site by people with similar complaints is sterilization of poor women. Is that what you are hoping for?


You’re responding to the wrong poster.


"I agree" poster is agreeing with the OP. I'm speaking to the OP, then. Is OP hoping for...idk....forced abortion according to IQ testing? Removal of children from their parents by force?


Not OP. I don’t know what the solution is. But I can you that throwing tons of tax payer money at it isn’t it. You can’t make up for poor parenting no matter how much money you throw at the failing schools and underperforming kids. Therefore, I would like to keep more of my money


You would like to defund public schools? Ok, Jan. I would like a green pony that poops money.


Defund no, but tons of money is wasted on extra programs with zero benefit


So, you want the "wasted money" reallocated to teachers or other "non-wasteful" (by your opinion) school programs? Or do you want it back into your pockets as you indicated you'd like to do?

If the latter, then that's the literal definition of defunding.


It isn’t defunding. Pay for the teachers, staff, buildings, materials, sports...normal school stuff. Stop inviting and funding additional “special programs” that are targeting to help further benefit and elevate poor kids and underperforming schools. They don’t work bc the root problem, as the topic says, is poor parenting.


Ok, so redirect the funds to go directly to parents to pay for food for kids, instead of funneling it through school. Then parenting classes, more supports for parents because 90% of poor parenting (as you put it) is just the result of parents not having time because they are working.

Solved.


Except that wouldn’t work. Because 90% of poor parenting isn’t bc of money- as pointed out early. Being a good parent is actual hard work. And parents- of all income levels are lazier than ever now. There are plenty of terrible wealthy parents too.


We can’t just put our hands in the air, though.


So if you've identified the problem as "lazy" parents, what is your solution to "lazy" parents? Tell us plainly, please. Or are you just complaining incessantly?

(I don't agree with this; I think parents are often exhausted, or maybe were never shown how to be supportive parents, and therefore just don't have the abilities and resources to do what you'd like.)
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Anonymous wrote:Teacher here- Most of it is the parents. I teach in a very diverse school. Poor URM' s who have strong parents perform just as well as higher income whites. Students of ALL races and classes perform poorly when their parents don't care.

I think by middle school, parents slack off. They don't realize that at that age they need to step it up with parenting.

About 20% of the problem is bad teachers.We need to clean house.


I think the problem of really bad teachers doesn't get addressed enough, or at all really. Bad teachers and unfair policies are the reason some parents check out when it comes to education. We have a system that is constantly telling even young kids that they aren't good enough when they miss deadlines or engage in age-appropriate behavior because they need to learn about the "real world." Meantime, their teachers don't respond to parents' emails, don't post assignments, don't grade work in a timely manner, have poor attendance, and that's completely ok. Then, if parents say anything, they are the villainous teacher haters.
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Anonymous wrote:I agree. Parents are addicted to screens too and spend a lot of time on their phone instead of parenting. They are totally checked out from their kids. They don’t correct behavior, they don’t supplement education at home, there is no learning going on home bc kids are plopped in front of TV/iPad the minute they return home from school or an activity. There is very little parental engagement going on. Parents are even too lazy to actually cook food for their kids too now. Free school breakfast, free lunch, what next?


Lost me at the bolded. That is not what I meant.


Are you OP? Because I have to tell you, your post reads like a (probably White) teacher complaining about the behavioral problems of high-poverty (probably Black) kids. The solution that I have seen suggested on this site by people with similar complaints is sterilization of poor women. Is that what you are hoping for?


You’re responding to the wrong poster.


"I agree" poster is agreeing with the OP. I'm speaking to the OP, then. Is OP hoping for...idk....forced abortion according to IQ testing? Removal of children from their parents by force?


Not OP. I don’t know what the solution is. But I can you that throwing tons of tax payer money at it isn’t it. You can’t make up for poor parenting no matter how much money you throw at the failing schools and underperforming kids. Therefore, I would like to keep more of my money


You would like to defund public schools? Ok, Jan. I would like a green pony that poops money.


Defund no, but tons of money is wasted on extra programs with zero benefit


So, you want the "wasted money" reallocated to teachers or other "non-wasteful" (by your opinion) school programs? Or do you want it back into your pockets as you indicated you'd like to do?

If the latter, then that's the literal definition of defunding.


It isn’t defunding. Pay for the teachers, staff, buildings, materials, sports...normal school stuff. Stop inviting and funding additional “special programs” that are targeting to help further benefit and elevate poor kids and underperforming schools. They don’t work bc the root problem, as the topic says, is poor parenting.


Ok, so redirect the funds to go directly to parents to pay for food for kids, instead of funneling it through school. Then parenting classes, more supports for parents because 90% of poor parenting (as you put it) is just the result of parents not having time because they are working.

Solved.


Except that wouldn’t work. Because 90% of poor parenting isn’t bc of money- as pointed out early. Being a good parent is actual hard work. And parents- of all income levels are lazier than ever now. There are plenty of terrible wealthy parents too.


I suggested money *for children's food*, which the PP wanted to take away from schools. "Supports" come in a variety of options, including paid leave, better pay, minimum wages, better insurance coverage, parental leave, parenting classes. Sure, getting children out of poverty by direct transfers of funds is always an option (that works! who knew?), as poverty is probably a major thing that's leading to the mysterious issues the OP won't name.
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Anonymous wrote:I agree. Parents are addicted to screens too and spend a lot of time on their phone instead of parenting. They are totally checked out from their kids. They don’t correct behavior, they don’t supplement education at home, there is no learning going on home bc kids are plopped in front of TV/iPad the minute they return home from school or an activity. There is very little parental engagement going on. Parents are even too lazy to actually cook food for their kids too now. Free school breakfast, free lunch, what next?


Lost me at the bolded. That is not what I meant.


Are you OP? Because I have to tell you, your post reads like a (probably White) teacher complaining about the behavioral problems of high-poverty (probably Black) kids. The solution that I have seen suggested on this site by people with similar complaints is sterilization of poor women. Is that what you are hoping for?


You’re responding to the wrong poster.


"I agree" poster is agreeing with the OP. I'm speaking to the OP, then. Is OP hoping for...idk....forced abortion according to IQ testing? Removal of children from their parents by force?


Not OP. I don’t know what the solution is. But I can you that throwing tons of tax payer money at it isn’t it. You can’t make up for poor parenting no matter how much money you throw at the failing schools and underperforming kids. Therefore, I would like to keep more of my money


You would like to defund public schools? Ok, Jan. I would like a green pony that poops money.


Defund no, but tons of money is wasted on extra programs with zero benefit


So, you want the "wasted money" reallocated to teachers or other "non-wasteful" (by your opinion) school programs? Or do you want it back into your pockets as you indicated you'd like to do?

If the latter, then that's the literal definition of defunding.


It isn’t defunding. Pay for the teachers, staff, buildings, materials, sports...normal school stuff. Stop inviting and funding additional “special programs” that are targeting to help further benefit and elevate poor kids and underperforming schools. They don’t work bc the root problem, as the topic says, is poor parenting.


Ok, so redirect the funds to go directly to parents to pay for food for kids, instead of funneling it through school. Then parenting classes, more supports for parents because 90% of poor parenting (as you put it) is just the result of parents not having time because they are working.

Solved.


Except that wouldn’t work. Because 90% of poor parenting isn’t bc of money- as pointed out early. Being a good parent is actual hard work. And parents- of all income levels are lazier than ever now. There are plenty of terrible wealthy parents too.


We can’t just put our hands in the air, though.


So if you've identified the problem as "lazy" parents, what is your solution to "lazy" parents? Tell us plainly, please. Or are you just complaining incessantly?

(I don't agree with this; I think parents are often exhausted, or maybe were never shown how to be supportive parents, and therefore just don't have the abilities and resources to do what you'd like.)


Exactly. No one sets out to be a bad parent. But we can become less effective parents when we are exhausted, overwhelmed, and feel unsupported when we try to help our kids. This type of disengagement happens to parents of all races and income levels. We all agree that teachers have difficult, if not impossible jobs. Does anyone think that railing on "lazy" parents is going to make that job easier? Who has ideas for promoting parental support and engagement?
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Anonymous wrote:I agree. Parents are addicted to screens too and spend a lot of time on their phone instead of parenting. They are totally checked out from their kids. They don’t correct behavior, they don’t supplement education at home, there is no learning going on home bc kids are plopped in front of TV/iPad the minute they return home from school or an activity. There is very little parental engagement going on. Parents are even too lazy to actually cook food for their kids too now. Free school breakfast, free lunch, what next?


Lost me at the bolded. That is not what I meant.


Are you OP? Because I have to tell you, your post reads like a (probably White) teacher complaining about the behavioral problems of high-poverty (probably Black) kids. The solution that I have seen suggested on this site by people with similar complaints is sterilization of poor women. Is that what you are hoping for?


You’re responding to the wrong poster.


"I agree" poster is agreeing with the OP. I'm speaking to the OP, then. Is OP hoping for...idk....forced abortion according to IQ testing? Removal of children from their parents by force?


Not OP. I don’t know what the solution is. But I can you that throwing tons of tax payer money at it isn’t it. You can’t make up for poor parenting no matter how much money you throw at the failing schools and underperforming kids. Therefore, I would like to keep more of my money


You would like to defund public schools? Ok, Jan. I would like a green pony that poops money.


Defund no, but tons of money is wasted on extra programs with zero benefit


So, you want the "wasted money" reallocated to teachers or other "non-wasteful" (by your opinion) school programs? Or do you want it back into your pockets as you indicated you'd like to do?

If the latter, then that's the literal definition of defunding.


It isn’t defunding. Pay for the teachers, staff, buildings, materials, sports...normal school stuff. Stop inviting and funding additional “special programs” that are targeting to help further benefit and elevate poor kids and underperforming schools. They don’t work bc the root problem, as the topic says, is poor parenting.


Ok, so redirect the funds to go directly to parents to pay for food for kids, instead of funneling it through school. Then parenting classes, more supports for parents because 90% of poor parenting (as you put it) is just the result of parents not having time because they are working.

Solved.


Except that wouldn’t work. Because 90% of poor parenting isn’t bc of money- as pointed out early. Being a good parent is actual hard work. And parents- of all income levels are lazier than ever now. There are plenty of terrible wealthy parents too.


We can’t just put our hands in the air, though.


So if you've identified the problem as "lazy" parents, what is your solution to "lazy" parents? Tell us plainly, please. Or are you just complaining incessantly?

(I don't agree with this; I think parents are often exhausted, or maybe were never shown how to be supportive parents, and therefore just don't have the abilities and resources to do what you'd like.)




The children of lazy parents serve as examples to my boys of how not to act.
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Anonymous wrote:I agree. Parents are addicted to screens too and spend a lot of time on their phone instead of parenting. They are totally checked out from their kids. They don’t correct behavior, they don’t supplement education at home, there is no learning going on home bc kids are plopped in front of TV/iPad the minute they return home from school or an activity. There is very little parental engagement going on. Parents are even too lazy to actually cook food for their kids too now. Free school breakfast, free lunch, what next?


Lost me at the bolded. That is not what I meant.


Are you OP? Because I have to tell you, your post reads like a (probably White) teacher complaining about the behavioral problems of high-poverty (probably Black) kids. The solution that I have seen suggested on this site by people with similar complaints is sterilization of poor women. Is that what you are hoping for?


You’re responding to the wrong poster.


"I agree" poster is agreeing with the OP. I'm speaking to the OP, then. Is OP hoping for...idk....forced abortion according to IQ testing? Removal of children from their parents by force?


Not OP. I don’t know what the solution is. But I can you that throwing tons of tax payer money at it isn’t it. You can’t make up for poor parenting no matter how much money you throw at the failing schools and underperforming kids. Therefore, I would like to keep more of my money


You would like to defund public schools? Ok, Jan. I would like a green pony that poops money.


Defund no, but tons of money is wasted on extra programs with zero benefit


So, you want the "wasted money" reallocated to teachers or other "non-wasteful" (by your opinion) school programs? Or do you want it back into your pockets as you indicated you'd like to do?

If the latter, then that's the literal definition of defunding.


It isn’t defunding. Pay for the teachers, staff, buildings, materials, sports...normal school stuff. Stop inviting and funding additional “special programs” that are targeting to help further benefit and elevate poor kids and underperforming schools. They don’t work bc the root problem, as the topic says, is poor parenting.


Ok, so redirect the funds to go directly to parents to pay for food for kids, instead of funneling it through school. Then parenting classes, more supports for parents because 90% of poor parenting (as you put it) is just the result of parents not having time because they are working.

Solved.


Except that wouldn’t work. Because 90% of poor parenting isn’t bc of money- as pointed out early. Being a good parent is actual hard work. And parents- of all income levels are lazier than ever now. There are plenty of terrible wealthy parents too.


We can’t just put our hands in the air, though.


So if you've identified the problem as "lazy" parents, what is your solution to "lazy" parents? Tell us plainly, please. Or are you just complaining incessantly?

(I don't agree with this; I think parents are often exhausted, or maybe were never shown how to be supportive parents, and therefore just don't have the abilities and resources to do what you'd like.)




The children of lazy parents serve as examples to my boys of how not to act.


again, what's your suggestion?
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Anonymous wrote:Is it any different now than it used to be?



Yes. I've taught for 22 years in public schools. The lack of parenting is much more evident in the last 8-10 yrs. Parents are much harder to get into contact with. There are many more ways to get into contact with them (Class Dojo and other apps, texts, etc) but many don't seem interested in hearing from teachers. For example, it has taken me until March this year to get every parent to join Class Dojo. This is how our school communicates with parents. In January, I still had 6 parents out of 22 who hadn't joined despite phone calls home, notes in the child's folder, etc. Of course, just because parents have the app doesn't mean they look at it.

In the same vein, at least half of my students have folders that are full of work from the beginning of the last quarter. I empty them out myself at the end of the quarter because parents don't do it even after I ask repeatedly. There are multiple permission slips for various trips and activities that are blank.

This is just how contact (or lack of) has gone downhill over the years. I will post about other aspects of parenting another day.
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Anonymous wrote:I agree. Parents are addicted to screens too and spend a lot of time on their phone instead of parenting. They are totally checked out from their kids. They don’t correct behavior, they don’t supplement education at home, there is no learning going on home bc kids are plopped in front of TV/iPad the minute they return home from school or an activity. There is very little parental engagement going on. Parents are even too lazy to actually cook food for their kids too now. Free school breakfast, free lunch, what next?


Lost me at the bolded. That is not what I meant.


Are you OP? Because I have to tell you, your post reads like a (probably White) teacher complaining about the behavioral problems of high-poverty (probably Black) kids. The solution that I have seen suggested on this site by people with similar complaints is sterilization of poor women. Is that what you are hoping for?


You’re responding to the wrong poster.


"I agree" poster is agreeing with the OP. I'm speaking to the OP, then. Is OP hoping for...idk....forced abortion according to IQ testing? Removal of children from their parents by force?


Not OP. I don’t know what the solution is. But I can you that throwing tons of tax payer money at it isn’t it. You can’t make up for poor parenting no matter how much money you throw at the failing schools and underperforming kids. Therefore, I would like to keep more of my money


You would like to defund public schools? Ok, Jan. I would like a green pony that poops money.


Defund no, but tons of money is wasted on extra programs with zero benefit


So, you want the "wasted money" reallocated to teachers or other "non-wasteful" (by your opinion) school programs? Or do you want it back into your pockets as you indicated you'd like to do?

If the latter, then that's the literal definition of defunding.


It isn’t defunding. Pay for the teachers, staff, buildings, materials, sports...normal school stuff. Stop inviting and funding additional “special programs” that are targeting to help further benefit and elevate poor kids and underperforming schools. They don’t work bc the root problem, as the topic says, is poor parenting.


Ok, so redirect the funds to go directly to parents to pay for food for kids, instead of funneling it through school. Then parenting classes, more supports for parents because 90% of poor parenting (as you put it) is just the result of parents not having time because they are working.

Solved.


Except that wouldn’t work. Because 90% of poor parenting isn’t bc of money- as pointed out early. Being a good parent is actual hard work. And parents- of all income levels are lazier than ever now. There are plenty of terrible wealthy parents too.


We can’t just put our hands in the air, though.


So if you've identified the problem as "lazy" parents, what is your solution to "lazy" parents? Tell us plainly, please. Or are you just complaining incessantly?

(I don't agree with this; I think parents are often exhausted, or maybe were never shown how to be supportive parents, and therefore just don't have the abilities and resources to do what you'd like.)




The children of lazy parents serve as examples to my boys of how not to act.


again, what's your suggestion?



Nothing. You can’t make someone be a good parent. You can’t make them put down their phone and engage. You can’t ban them from letting their kid watch an iPad all day or play computer games. You can’t make them buy nutritious foods and cook them.
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Anonymous wrote:I agree. Parents are addicted to screens too and spend a lot of time on their phone instead of parenting. They are totally checked out from their kids. They don’t correct behavior, they don’t supplement education at home, there is no learning going on home bc kids are plopped in front of TV/iPad the minute they return home from school or an activity. There is very little parental engagement going on. Parents are even too lazy to actually cook food for their kids too now. Free school breakfast, free lunch, what next?


Lost me at the bolded. That is not what I meant.


Are you OP? Because I have to tell you, your post reads like a (probably White) teacher complaining about the behavioral problems of high-poverty (probably Black) kids. The solution that I have seen suggested on this site by people with similar complaints is sterilization of poor women. Is that what you are hoping for?


You’re responding to the wrong poster.


Correct, so that means that we’re not going to let their kids suffer.

"I agree" poster is agreeing with the OP. I'm speaking to the OP, then. Is OP hoping for...idk....forced abortion according to IQ testing? Removal of children from their parents by force?


Not OP. I don’t know what the solution is. But I can you that throwing tons of tax payer money at it isn’t it. You can’t make up for poor parenting no matter how much money you throw at the failing schools and underperforming kids. Therefore, I would like to keep more of my money


You would like to defund public schools? Ok, Jan. I would like a green pony that poops money.


Defund no, but tons of money is wasted on extra programs with zero benefit


So, you want the "wasted money" reallocated to teachers or other "non-wasteful" (by your opinion) school programs? Or do you want it back into your pockets as you indicated you'd like to do?

If the latter, then that's the literal definition of defunding.


It isn’t defunding. Pay for the teachers, staff, buildings, materials, sports...normal school stuff. Stop inviting and funding additional “special programs” that are targeting to help further benefit and elevate poor kids and underperforming schools. They don’t work bc the root problem, as the topic says, is poor parenting.


Ok, so redirect the funds to go directly to parents to pay for food for kids, instead of funneling it through school. Then parenting classes, more supports for parents because 90% of poor parenting (as you put it) is just the result of parents not having time because they are working.

Solved.


Except that wouldn’t work. Because 90% of poor parenting isn’t bc of money- as pointed out early. Being a good parent is actual hard work. And parents- of all income levels are lazier than ever now. There are plenty of terrible wealthy parents too.


We can’t just put our hands in the air, though.


So if you've identified the problem as "lazy" parents, what is your solution to "lazy" parents? Tell us plainly, please. Or are you just complaining incessantly?

(I don't agree with this; I think parents are often exhausted, or maybe were never shown how to be supportive parents, and therefore just don't have the abilities and resources to do what you'd like.)




The children of lazy parents serve as examples to my boys of how not to act.


again, what's your suggestion?



Nothing. You can’t make someone be a good parent. You can’t make them put down their phone and engage. You can’t ban them from letting their kid watch an iPad all day or play computer games. You can’t make them buy nutritious foods and cook them.
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Anonymous wrote:I agree. Parents are addicted to screens too and spend a lot of time on their phone instead of parenting. They are totally checked out from their kids. They don’t correct behavior, they don’t supplement education at home, there is no learning going on home bc kids are plopped in front of TV/iPad the minute they return home from school or an activity. There is very little parental engagement going on. Parents are even too lazy to actually cook food for their kids too now. Free school breakfast, free lunch, what next?


Lost me at the bolded. That is not what I meant.


Are you OP? Because I have to tell you, your post reads like a (probably White) teacher complaining about the behavioral problems of high-poverty (probably Black) kids. The solution that I have seen suggested on this site by people with similar complaints is sterilization of poor women. Is that what you are hoping for?


You’re responding to the wrong poster.


"I agree" poster is agreeing with the OP. I'm speaking to the OP, then. Is OP hoping for...idk....forced abortion according to IQ testing? Removal of children from their parents by force?


Not OP. I don’t know what the solution is. But I can you that throwing tons of tax payer money at it isn’t it. You can’t make up for poor parenting no matter how much money you throw at the failing schools and underperforming kids. Therefore, I would like to keep more of my money


You would like to defund public schools? Ok, Jan. I would like a green pony that poops money.


Defund no, but tons of money is wasted on extra programs with zero benefit


So, you want the "wasted money" reallocated to teachers or other "non-wasteful" (by your opinion) school programs? Or do you want it back into your pockets as you indicated you'd like to do?

If the latter, then that's the literal definition of defunding.


It isn’t defunding. Pay for the teachers, staff, buildings, materials, sports...normal school stuff. Stop inviting and funding additional “special programs” that are targeting to help further benefit and elevate poor kids and underperforming schools. They don’t work bc the root problem, as the topic says, is poor parenting.


Ok, so redirect the funds to go directly to parents to pay for food for kids, instead of funneling it through school. Then parenting classes, more supports for parents because 90% of poor parenting (as you put it) is just the result of parents not having time because they are working.

Solved.


Except that wouldn’t work. Because 90% of poor parenting isn’t bc of money- as pointed out early. Being a good parent is actual hard work. And parents- of all income levels are lazier than ever now. There are plenty of terrible wealthy parents too.


We can’t just put our hands in the air, though.


So if you've identified the problem as "lazy" parents, what is your solution to "lazy" parents? Tell us plainly, please. Or are you just complaining incessantly?

(I don't agree with this; I think parents are often exhausted, or maybe were never shown how to be supportive parents, and therefore just don't have the abilities and resources to do what you'd like.)




The children of lazy parents serve as examples to my boys of how not to act.


again, what's your suggestion?



Nothing. You can’t make someone be a good parent. You can’t make them put down their phone and engage. You can’t ban them from letting their kid watch an iPad all day or play computer games. You can’t make them buy nutritious foods and cook them.


So....you're just complaining? About parents? On a parent board? I understand the allure of screaming anonymously at people on the internet, I do. But maybe you want to find solutions to whatever your problems are would actually solve your problems.
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