School Shooting in Michigan. 3 Teens DEAD. 1 15-yr old suspect in custody.

[Anonymous]

I gotta say, I looked at a couple of this kid's videos from his youtube channel from 5 years ago and it's a little chilling how much he reminds me of my 10 year old kid and his friends making youtube videos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwqqE8iRXNs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0D4tyfl81I

Middle school must not have been kind to him.

The shooter's brother went back to FL because of issues with the mom. I wonder if it had to do with her going down the Trump rabbit hole and if that impacted the shooter as well. I found her blog post pretty interesting. She doesn't seem to have started out a rabid Trump fan, she seems like she was looking for reasons to vote for Hillary but ended up drinking Trump's kool-aid. Her blog post is a great example of why he won. https://archive.vn/rRL9y.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I gotta say, I looked at a couple of this kid's videos from his youtube channel from 5 years ago and it's a little chilling how much he reminds me of my 10 year old kid and his friends making youtube videos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwqqE8iRXNs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0D4tyfl81I

Middle school must not have been kind to him.

The shooter's brother went back to FL because of issues with the mom. I wonder if it had to do with her going down the Trump rabbit hole and if that impacted the shooter as well. I found her blog post pretty interesting. She doesn't seem to have started out a rabid Trump fan, she seems like she was looking for reasons to vote for Hillary but ended up drinking Trump's kool-aid. Her blog post is a great example of why he won. https://archive.vn/rRL9y.

It shows how ignorant people fall for propaganda, thank you next.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Oxford High School
Students: 1,872
Free/discounted lunch: 24.1%
White: 82.7%
Hispanic: 9.9%
African American: 2.8%
Average SAT: 1,010
College readiness rate: 40%

https://www.schooldigger.com/go/MI/schools/2724006338/school.aspx

What’s your point?

Merely providing insights of a school that's over 500 miles away. If you forced my hand to make a point, it'd be that it's a caliber of high school the bourgeoisie on DCUM move heaven and earth to avoid.

I grew up in Oxford. Moved away when I was 26. It’s similar to Ashburn, VA. Quiet, peaceful, we lived by a lake and too family walks in the summer evenings. Neighborhood had block parties, etc. It was an ideal place.

It's not an ideal school vis a vis what the bourgeoisie on DCUM desire. Average stats (i.e. mediocre), crowded, and podunk. I'm not even sure it's wealthier and posher neighbor to the south, Rochester Adams High School, would be considered ideal for the strivers on here -- and that's arguably the best public high school in the state.

NP. First, you sound exactly like every other "bourgeoise" striver on DCUM. "Podunk?" You're making generalizations based on stats with zero context and zero first-hand knowledge. Second, WTF does any of this matter? It makes no difference whether families from a completely different part of the country would send their kids to this school, unless you're trying to convince yourself that this wouldn't happen to a school that the DCUM crowd would find acceptable. Sadly, we have enough actual evidence based on all the school shootings to date to know that they can and do happen anywhere.

Sandy Hook was a high SES community. It didn’t matter. Access to weapons is the issue. The parents need to get jail time. This and every case like it is about parental failure. My teens have no expectation of privacy. The fact that a parent is clueless but teachers and police see the flags is concerning. Police retrieved a wealth of information from his journal and online accounts. Parents were negligent in securing the weapon and not parenting.

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Anonymous wrote:Oxford High School
Students: 1,872
Free/discounted lunch: 24.1%
White: 82.7%
Hispanic: 9.9%
African American: 2.8%
Average SAT: 1,010
College readiness rate: 40%

https://www.schooldigger.com/go/MI/schools/2724006338/school.aspx

What’s your point?

Merely providing insights of a school that's over 500 miles away. If you forced my hand to make a point, it'd be that it's a caliber of high school the bourgeoisie on DCUM move heaven and earth to avoid.

Look. STOP. This happens in affluent areas: Parkland (very affluent), Columbine, Sandy Hook as well as less affluent areas.

I know it's a tactic people use to get a false sense of security that it could never happen at their child's school. It's just not true.

The sooner you face reality. The better you will be.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-03-01/all-kinds-of-u-s-communities-have-suffered-mass-shootings

The upshot of Adler’s analysis: The places that suffer mass shootings run the full gamut of American communities. Some are small, affluent, white suburbs. But the reality is that these tragedies occur in large cities and small towns; in rich, poor, and middle-class places; and in racially mixed as well as predominantly white communities.

+1 This school looks like America. Slightly fewer Black and Latino people but otherwise a cross-section. That’s an average SAT score and the college readiness is about the percentage of American kids who go to college.

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Anonymous wrote:It's the guns-- it's really difficult to know what is going on in these kids' heads-- mental health issues, psychopathy, set off by something in their environment...
My teen DS had a friend who struggled with anxiety, depression, bullying, social skills issues, etc. His dad posted on FB that he was going to take his son out for some target practice because he wanted this kid to learn gun safety. That was immediately the end of the friendship--and our DS was never allowed to hang out at their house again. That kid shouldn't be within 10 miles of a gun. There's no limit to how stupid some parents are.

And the types of video games these kids play are disturbing. They don't value human life. They see it like they see it when they are playing shooter video games. It's not reality. Don't see the person and their families in front of them, just a hologram.

+1. The kid appeared to have been addicted to video games for the last 10 years, including Call of Duty, a graphic and very realistic shooter game played online.

Every other country in the world has kids who play violent video games, and no other country has them shooting up their schools.

[Anonymous]

Wow. Watching those videos and know what happened a few years later. Something went terribly wrong for this kid.

I don’t know if it is parenting, video games, bullying but most likely a combination of all three, plus of course guns. I will certainly double down on all these areas. I can’t watch that video and assume it can’t happen to just about anyone.

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Teacher here. I do worry that kids are suffering mentally from the past two years of the pandemic, I’m almost surprised we aren’t having more incidents than this. I see academic problems more but I know there are underlying mental problems I’m only barely seeing.

Really concerned for our current generation of children.

As a parent and a person who has close friends who are teachers, I worry about the same thing. But remember that children all over the world have been affected by the pandemic and have been physically out of school for months or years or have had numerous disruptions to their education. But it's only in America that they are shooting up their classmates and teachers. What ails us is deeper than covid.

Let's not pretend that this is the result of the pandemic effed up kids have been going on murder sprees for nearly 30 years now, long before the pandemic.

[Anonymous]

The prosecutor was just on CNN and it really sounds to me like tomorrow they will announce charges against the parents. I hope so.

[Anonymous]

So many excuses. Kids around the world are playing violent video games, getting bullied, having mental health issues, in dysfunctional families, etc. Just the same as American kids including this kid. What's the difference? ONE THING. Guns.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Oxford High School
Students: 1,872
Free/discounted lunch: 24.1%
White: 82.7%
Hispanic: 9.9%
African American: 2.8%
Average SAT: 1,010
College readiness rate: 40%

https://www.schooldigger.com/go/MI/schools/2724006338/school.aspx

What’s your point?

Merely providing insights of a school that's over 500 miles away. If you forced my hand to make a point, it'd be that it's a caliber of high school the bourgeoisie on DCUM move heaven and earth to avoid.

Look. STOP. This happens in affluent areas: Parkland (very affluent), Columbine, Sandy Hook as well as less affluent areas.

I know it's a tactic people use to get a false sense of security that it could never happen at their child's school. It's just not true.

The sooner you face reality. The better you will be.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-03-01/all-kinds-of-u-s-communities-have-suffered-mass-shootings

The upshot of Adler’s analysis: The places that suffer mass shootings run the full gamut of American communities. Some are small, affluent, white suburbs. But the reality is that these tragedies occur in large cities and small towns; in rich, poor, and middle-class places; and in racially mixed as well as predominantly white communities.

+1 This school looks like America. Slightly fewer Black and Latino people but otherwise a cross-section. That’s an average SAT score and the college readiness is about the percentage of American kids who go to college.

This isn't post WWII boom time America. The "average" public high school in the US in 2021 is a sh*t show and you know it. Nobody on this District-based forum would send their kid to a podunk high school like this.

[Anonymous]

Holy smokes. that picture of him holding the gun, bragging about it!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So many excuses. Kids around the world are playing violent video games, getting bullied, having mental health issues, in dysfunctional families, etc. Just the same as American kids including this kid. What's the difference? ONE THING. Guns.

I suspect he was born with challenges/defects – and he was not getting the support he needed at school and from the local public health dept. High-strength glasses since youth, face shape, big ears, pudginess, and he looks a few years younger than a normal 15 year old. And we can look at his parents. Their run-down neglected home in hickville and the mother's public letter to Trump. And Michigan is one of the top states for opioid overdoses.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So many excuses. Kids around the world are playing violent video games, getting bullied, having mental health issues, in dysfunctional families, etc. Just the same as American kids including this kid. What's the difference? ONE THING. Guns.

I suspect he was born with challenges/defects – and he was not getting the support he needed at school and from the local public health dept. High-strength glasses since youth, face shape, big ears, pudginess, and he looks a few years younger than a normal 15 year old. And we can look at his parents. Their run-down neglected home in hickville and the mother's public letter to Trump. And Michigan is one of the top states for opioid overdoses.

And, here is the ultimate bully. Many of us have high strength glasses. Look at picture of him previously and he was cute and well dressed. You probably encourage your kids to be bullies as you set a terrible example.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So many excuses. Kids around the world are playing violent video games, getting bullied, having mental health issues, in dysfunctional families, etc. Just the same as American kids including this kid. What's the difference? ONE THING. Guns.

The one thing is the parents.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you look at the faces of these shooters - they look subhuman, crazy and low IQ. As if they were casted in these roles by some Hollywood casting director. With dead, crazy, Sanpaku eyes too...

Really? He looks like any other 15 year old. There is nothing to indicate he is low IQ. You cannot tell that from a mug shot.
What he did was horrific but walking around judging people as subhuman, low IQ, and crazy by their appearance is awful.

No, he doesn't look like any other 15 yr old. He looks like a criminal and low IQ man. You put him in a suit and he will still looks criminal. Maybe he is poor and that shows in his appearance too. But you can look at rich, depraved criminal men, and while they will look expensively attired and entitled...their criminality also shows on their faces. Especially the eyes. This looks like an evil man and his parents also look evil.

He is still a 15 year old CHILD.