School Shooting in Michigan. 3 Teens DEAD. 1 15-yr old suspect in custody.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you look at the faces of these shooters - they look subhuman, crazy and low IQ. As if they were casted in these roles by some Hollywood casting director. With dead, crazy, Sanpaku eyes too...

I see a kid that is angry, defiant, traumatized by his own actions, maybe?

There is so much research on how the brain is not fully developed until 25. Guns are the problem but as noted by an early poster, gun reform will not happen in this country so we just have to accept that some of our kids will commit/die via gun violence.

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Anonymous wrote:
Have you tried to get a child help in the last 2 years? Have you tried to find a therapist for anyone in the last two years? It is damn near impossible. We have been on waiting lists upon waiting lists for my child.
I don't disagree that he should of gotten help but we have no idea what action they tried to take or what they knew prior to one week ago when they were first made aware of the situation. And yes, they should have locked the gun or gotten rid of it.

I hear you pp It can be near impossible to get a child help even when you have money and good insurance--I can't imagine what it's like when you are "dirt poor!"
The parents met with school admin the same day--I'm wondering what admin actually said about what these "poor" parents could do to get the kid help? Did they have a psychiatric hospital to recommend (that was actually able to accept new patients? And that these "dirt poor" parents could afford?)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Have you tried to get a child help in the last 2 years? Have you tried to find a therapist for anyone in the last two years? It is damn near impossible. We have been on waiting lists upon waiting lists for my child.
I don't disagree that he should of gotten help but we have no idea what action they tried to take or what they knew prior to one week ago when they were first made aware of the situation. And yes, they should have locked the gun or gotten rid of it.

I hear you pp It can be near impossible to get a child help even when you have money and good insurance--I can't imagine what it's like when you are "dirt poor!"
The parents met with school admin the same day--I'm wondering what admin actually said about what these "poor" parents could do to get the kid help? Did they have a psychiatric hospital to recommend (that was actually able to accept new patients? And that these "dirt poor" parents could afford?)

If you know that your child has issues that need to be addressed, you should not have a plethora of guns within easy reach. I wish that we would start charging parents for negligence with gun storage. I know that we won't because "gun rights" trump just about everything else but it is what a sane country would do.

The GOP's America folks. You're looking at it.

[Anonymous]

It's the guns-- it's really difficult to know what is going on in these kids' heads-- mental health issues, psychopathy, set off by something in their environment...
My teen DS had a friend who struggled with anxiety, depression, bullying, social skills issues, etc. His dad posted on FB that he was going to take his son out for some target practice because he wanted this kid to learn gun safety. That was immediately the end of the friendship--and our DS was never allowed to hang out at their house again. That kid shouldn't be within 10 miles of a gun. There's no limit to how stupid some parents are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you look at the faces of these shooters - they look subhuman, crazy and low IQ. As if they were casted in these roles by some Hollywood casting director. With dead, crazy, Sanpaku eyes too...

Really? He looks like any other 15 year old. There is nothing to indicate he is low IQ. You cannot tell that from a mug shot.
What he did was horrific but walking around judging people as subhuman, low IQ, and crazy by their appearance is awful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's the guns-- it's really difficult to know what is going on in these kids' heads-- mental health issues, psychopathy, set off by something in their environment...
My teen DS had a friend who struggled with anxiety, depression, bullying, social skills issues, etc. His dad posted on FB that he was going to take his son out for some target practice because he wanted this kid to learn gun safety. That was immediately the end of the friendship--and our DS was never allowed to hang out at their house again. That kid shouldn't be within 10 miles of a gun. There's no limit to how stupid some parents are.

Agree. I have a friend who’s son (11) was adhd, very impulsive and somewhat dark and violent tendencies. Dad recently bought a gun(s). WHY? If your child has red flags for potentially harmful behavior, parents shouldn’t keep guns in house

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Oxford High School
Students: 1,872
Free/discounted lunch: 24.1%
White: 82.7%
Hispanic: 9.9%
African American: 2.8%
Average SAT: 1,010
College readiness rate: 40%

https://www.schooldigger.com/go/MI/schools/2724006338/school.aspx

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Have you tried to get a child help in the last 2 years? Have you tried to find a therapist for anyone in the last two years? It is damn near impossible. We have been on waiting lists upon waiting lists for my child.
I don't disagree that he should of gotten help but we have no idea what action they tried to take or what they knew prior to one week ago when they were first made aware of the situation. And yes, they should have locked the gun or gotten rid of it.

I hear you pp It can be near impossible to get a child help even when you have money and good insurance--I can't imagine what it's like when you are "dirt poor!"
The parents met with school admin the same day--I'm wondering what admin actually said about what these "poor" parents could do to get the kid help? Did they have a psychiatric hospital to recommend (that was actually able to accept new patients? And that these "dirt poor" parents could afford?)

If you know that your child has issues that need to be addressed, you should not have a plethora of guns within easy reach. I wish that we would start charging parents for negligence with gun storage. I know that we won't because "gun rights" trump just about everything else but it is what a sane country would do.

The GOP's America folks. You're looking at it.

PP you quoted here.
I agree. I don't think anyone should do that even if their kid doesn't have issues.

I still think rather than admin just tellling "dirt poor" parents "you need to do something about your kid", parents need to be given real resources and treatment options.

I have a teen son who had depression in high school. Finding therapy for him was stressful and bordering on traumatic. Our insurance (which is touted as one of the best out there) gave us a massive list of providers literally within a 2.5 hour radius of our house. The vast majority of them (when we called) told us they do not see anyone under the age of 18. The few that did see minors, were not taking new patients. There was ONE--ONE! That would see minors and was taking new patients, and they couldn't fit him in the schedule for six weeks!
A few weeks ago the subject of therapy actually came up on the teen board and a poster talked about how the OP should have her child look at the different provider's profiles to see which they would click with best and I just shook my head. Imagine actually having a choice and getting to choose one that you think would work best--instead of just resorting to the ONLY option available!

My son wasn't violent/homicidal, this was just about stuff within himself--but the search for therapy would not have gone any different even if my son was.

Anyway, like I said, I just would like to know exactly what type of resources and options the parents were given during this meeting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oxford High School
Students: 1,872
Free/discounted lunch: 24.1%
White: 82.7%
Hispanic: 9.9%
African American: 2.8%
Average SAT: 1,010
College readiness rate: 40%

https://www.schooldigger.com/go/MI/schools/2724006338/school.aspx

What’s your point?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you look at the faces of these shooters - they look subhuman, crazy and low IQ. As if they were casted in these roles by some Hollywood casting director. With dead, crazy, Sanpaku eyes too...

Really? He looks like any other 15 year old. There is nothing to indicate he is low IQ. You cannot tell that from a mug shot.
What he did was horrific but walking around judging people as subhuman, low IQ, and crazy by their appearance is awful.

Well, apparently it's ok to do that if he's "dirt poor."

[Anonymous]

It has nothing to do with his parents income or the value of their house -- it's clear as day his face lacks symmetry, his ears are on the large side, and he's underdeveloped for his grade/age. And clearly he hasn't had a haircut in months -- and hasn't showered in many days.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you look at the faces of these shooters - they look subhuman, crazy and low IQ. As if they were casted in these roles by some Hollywood casting director. With dead, crazy, Sanpaku eyes too...

Really? He looks like any other 15 year old. There is nothing to indicate he is low IQ. You cannot tell that from a mug shot.
What he did was horrific but walking around judging people as subhuman, low IQ, and crazy by their appearance is awful.

No, he doesn't look like any other 15 yr old. He looks like a criminal and low IQ man. You put him in a suit and he will still looks criminal. Maybe he is poor and that shows in his appearance too. But you can look at rich, depraved criminal men, and while they will look expensively attired and entitled...their criminality also shows on their faces. Especially the eyes. This looks like an evil man and his parents also look evil.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It has nothing to do with his parents income or the value of their house -- it's clear as day his face lacks symmetry, his ears are on the large side, and he's underdeveloped for his grade/age. And clearly he hasn't had a haircut in months -- and hasn't showered in many days.

Eyes are either too close-set or too far apart. Face and expression does not have humanity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oxford High School
Students: 1,872
Free/discounted lunch: 24.1%
White: 82.7%
Hispanic: 9.9%
African American: 2.8%
Average SAT: 1,010
College readiness rate: 40%

https://www.schooldigger.com/go/MI/schools/2724006338/school.aspx

What’s your point?

Merely providing insights of a school that's over 500 miles away. If you forced my hand to make a point, it'd be that it's a caliber of high school the bourgeoisie on DCUM move heaven and earth to avoid.

[Anonymous]

He looks like he has FAS to me.