I want to get away from friend groups/communities with this specific type of woman: where to go?

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Anonymous wrote:NP. Actually it completely does. As evidenced by the amount of work you put into copying OP’s post, complete with overly familiar, not funny references (stage 5 clinger, SWF).

Your post isn’t clever and the OP does describe you. You were triggered for this reason.

LOL, wasn’t hard to copy and paste. I did add paragraph breaks because OP “who works in comms” doesn’t know how to use them. The only thing difficult about copying her writing style was that I would never be so long-winded.

So if you don't feel personally attacked by this thread topic, you are spending your Saturday posting extensively in this thread because... why?

No one would get this invested in this topic if their actual response to the OP was "huh, I have never encountered that, how strange." You are responding defensively.

And why shouldn’t I defend the women OP is trying to ridicule or diminish? Sure, I’m standing up for women whose crime is seemingly to exist, and be more popular, essential, successful and relevant than OP.

I thought your claim is that such women don't exist.

And why would anyone "popular, essential, successful, and relevant" need to be defended in a weekend thread on DCUM? The woman you describe would be 100% fine without your intervention.

I don’t care what anyone’s claim is.

I find people like Op claiming to know everything about someone’s childhood, marriage, spouse, kids, and academic history to be beyond pretentious and stupid.

So that’s when and where I stopped taking Op seriously.

Women like this make sure you know about their spouse, kids, childhood, and academic history. Because they are pushy and tell you about it even when you are backing away. That's the whole problem. You know all about them (because they have Main Character Syndrome) and they know nothing about you, because they view you as supporting cast whose role is simply to serve their goals. It's part of what makes them so irritating.

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Anonymous wrote:NP. Actually it completely does. As evidenced by the amount of work you put into copying OP’s post, complete with overly familiar, not funny references (stage 5 clinger, SWF).

Your post isn’t clever and the OP does describe you. You were triggered for this reason.

LOL, wasn’t hard to copy and paste. I did add paragraph breaks because OP “who works in comms” doesn’t know how to use them. The only thing difficult about copying her writing style was that I would never be so long-winded.

So if you don't feel personally attacked by this thread topic, you are spending your Saturday posting extensively in this thread because... why?

No one would get this invested in this topic if their actual response to the OP was "huh, I have never encountered that, how strange." You are responding defensively.

And why shouldn’t I defend the women OP is trying to ridicule or diminish? Sure, I’m standing up for women whose crime is seemingly to exist, and be more popular, essential, successful and relevant than OP.

I thought your claim is that such women don't exist.

And why would anyone "popular, essential, successful, and relevant" need to be defended in a weekend thread on DCUM? The woman you describe would be 100% fine without your intervention.

They’re human, too, and don’t deserve to be shat upon just because OP feels insecure, except when she’s an anonymous keyboard warrior. Because it’s gross that she probably smiles to their face and then spews this jealous, bitter poison.

You were worried for successful, popular women who might stumble upon this thread and apparently take offense, so you thought you should write a screed making fun of people for being fat or friendless to defend them?

You do know the popular girl is not going to befriend you because you stuck up for a hypothetical version of her on some dumb anonymous message board? Right?

You do know that all the women you are so transparently jealous of and resentful of aren’t going to become miserable, bitter shrews like you just because you throw anonymous hate their way? Right?

Of course they won't. It won't impact those women in any way. Some people who struggle with this personality type blew off some steam. The only person melting down here is you, for some reason.

You can obviously aren't a super successful, confident, capable person, or you wouldn't be on this thread throwing a fit. Yet you claim to hate those of us who are jealous of and resent such women. I honestly don't get what your deal is.

I’m participating in a thread that I find interesting, same as you. I’m making counterpoints and arguments, same as you. Are you MAGA? Because the only people I know who characterize discourse they don’t like or agree with as “melting down” are MAGA types. How very interesting.

If I used all caps, or foul language, you may have a point. But no, all I’m doing is…not agreeing with you. And you’re calling that a meltdown. I fin that to be extremely amusing. That’s my “deal”: it amuses me that you can’t handle someone with a different viewpoint.

If you are the person who wrote the lengthy parody of the OP making fun of fat people and people from dysfunctional families, yes, I think you are melting down. That was one of the meanest things I've read on this site in a while. You are punching down.

Accusing me of being MAGA because I disagree with you? That also tracks with your other behavior I'm this thread.

No, I didn’t write the parody. But I think it’s very interesting that OP’s post was somehow just “venting” but any pushback on it is people being horrible.

I didn’t accuse you of being MAGA because you disagree with me. I accused you of being MAGA because those are seriously the only people I know who characterize disagreement as “melting down” and “throwing a fit.” If the shoe fits…

Well I was referring specifically to that post, which yes I think is a "melt down" because it was so unkind to people whose only offense is not being super successful in life.

The MAGA accusation is ridiculous on its face. I'm not MAGA, and haven't written a single thing in this thread advocating for MAGA views, which I abhor. That feels like a rhetorical trick to try to win an argument by associating me with hateful people. Do you often try to score points by accusing someone who disagrees with you of being a hateful racist with no evidence? Seems shady.

Keep dodging and deflecting. Keep avoiding taking responsibility for the fact that you accused me of “throwing a fit” and “melting down” because I disagree with you. I did not use all caps, I did not use foul language, and yet you are committed to accusing me of throwing a fit and melting down simply because I disagree with you.

A mature adult would have taken the opportunity to say, “Yes, you know, you are right; people disagreeing with me are not melting down or throwing a fit. I take your point.” You could then continue to disagree with me or address my points and arguments in a mature manner. But I don’t think you are capable of walking it back when you’ve demonstrably gotten it wrong.

Wow. You just can’t stop.

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Anonymous wrote:I disagree women like this are always easily kept at arm's length. The whole issue with this personality is that they are pushy and that can impact other people. I have worked for a woman like this and I've dealt with one at my kid's school and both times it was pretty annoying to deal with them frequently pushing for personal advantages or stepping on toes or overreaching. It's not a crisis or anything, but it's a difficult personality type.

I don't know this person but one example of someone with this personality who would drive me nuts if our kids were in school together is that mom who was pushing really hard to redshirt her kid in DCPS earlier this year. I remember reading about that, and seeing interviews with her. Obviously people like that exist and sometimes their behavior has negative impacts on others.

Oh no, you were annoyed? People are sometimes difficult?

I love that you probably have, like, a “Rebel Girls” book that’s all about RBG, Rosa Parks, Sally Ride, Susan B. Anthony, and other annoying-ass women who wouldn’t stop being so damn pushy all the time. We encourage our girls to be assertive, invested, dedicated, determined, and outspoken, but then when women in our life actually do that, those pushy broads need to STFU, sit down and stop taking up so much space. How dare they want to influence their communities and advocate for their own best interest, and the best interests of their kids?

Uh, if you can't tell the difference between pushing for civil rights and pushing for your kid to get special treatment at their public school, I don't know what to say. No one here is complaining about Rosa Parks.

No, you’re just complaining about women acting on all those things we encourage them to do, following the endless examples of women leaders that we claim to admire. We’re just complaining when women are actually assertive, brave, outspoken, take-charge types who, yes indeed, try to influence the world, in ways big and small.

That’s what you’re doing. Own it.

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Anonymous wrote:NP. Actually it completely does. As evidenced by the amount of work you put into copying OP’s post, complete with overly familiar, not funny references (stage 5 clinger, SWF).

Your post isn’t clever and the OP does describe you. You were triggered for this reason.

LOL, wasn’t hard to copy and paste. I did add paragraph breaks because OP “who works in comms” doesn’t know how to use them. The only thing difficult about copying her writing style was that I would never be so long-winded.

So if you don't feel personally attacked by this thread topic, you are spending your Saturday posting extensively in this thread because... why?

No one would get this invested in this topic if their actual response to the OP was "huh, I have never encountered that, how strange." You are responding defensively.

And why shouldn’t I defend the women OP is trying to ridicule or diminish? Sure, I’m standing up for women whose crime is seemingly to exist, and be more popular, essential, successful and relevant than OP.

I thought your claim is that such women don't exist.

And why would anyone "popular, essential, successful, and relevant" need to be defended in a weekend thread on DCUM? The woman you describe would be 100% fine without your intervention.

I don’t care what anyone’s claim is.

I find people like Op claiming to know everything about someone’s childhood, marriage, spouse, kids, and academic history to be beyond pretentious and stupid.

So that’s when and where I stopped taking Op seriously.

Maybe you should start your own thread about "women like OP" since they obviously makes you so angry.

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Anonymous wrote:I think what happens is sh*t needs to get done, so people ask people who have done the sh*t before successfully. Are they the nicest women you’d want to be friends with? Maybe not always. But they are there, doing things that benefit the community. Do they get a big head, are they rich enough that they have time to spare? Yes, often yes. This is the price of asking the quintessential PTA Mom or Church Lady to run things.

These women are rarely asked.

So why are others not stepping in and taking charge before they "maneuver" their way in? Others don't want to do take charge. It's similar to politics. A certain kind of personality is drawn to politics. People criticize them but don't want to jump in.

Someone else be proactive for a community event? Gasp.

Often other people don't step in because they don't want the event.

Our PTA organizes so many events throughout the year, I feel like it's too much. It becomes burdensome as a parent to participate because it seems like there is always something coming up that requires contributions and participation. My kids want to go to the event because it's talked up at school and their friends will be there, but for me it just means we're going to have to organize a weeknight around something at the school. I know some people love going but we don't -- I'm not super into small talk with other parents and on a weeknight my focus is on dinner, making sure kids do homework and take showers, and having a normal bedtime. I resent having those routines disrupted multiple times a month for school events.

The the school needs chaperones or volunteers to help with stuff around the school, my spouse and almost always volunteer. But we are not event people. I don't volunteer for these events because I don't like them. And I'm not particularly grateful to the people who organize them because they mostly just create obligation for me.

I agree with this. Same for all the organized teacher appreciation. I appreciate my teachers in my own way and don’t want to do your stuff PTA. Or the cookie carry things? Ask teachers - most don’t even want your cookies. It’s women creating more obligations and expectations and then expecting applause for doing so and many people feel guilt about it and contribute or participate because they feel pressure to do so.

Which brings us back to the OP. You’re either part of this whole ecosystem or you’re not. It’s easy to opt out. So opt out. Change the channel in your brain.

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Anonymous wrote:NP. Actually it completely does. As evidenced by the amount of work you put into copying OP’s post, complete with overly familiar, not funny references (stage 5 clinger, SWF).

Your post isn’t clever and the OP does describe you. You were triggered for this reason.

LOL, wasn’t hard to copy and paste. I did add paragraph breaks because OP “who works in comms” doesn’t know how to use them. The only thing difficult about copying her writing style was that I would never be so long-winded.

So if you don't feel personally attacked by this thread topic, you are spending your Saturday posting extensively in this thread because... why?

No one would get this invested in this topic if their actual response to the OP was "huh, I have never encountered that, how strange." You are responding defensively.

And why shouldn’t I defend the women OP is trying to ridicule or diminish? Sure, I’m standing up for women whose crime is seemingly to exist, and be more popular, essential, successful and relevant than OP.

I thought your claim is that such women don't exist.

And why would anyone "popular, essential, successful, and relevant" need to be defended in a weekend thread on DCUM? The woman you describe would be 100% fine without your intervention.

I don’t care what anyone’s claim is.

I find people like Op claiming to know everything about someone’s childhood, marriage, spouse, kids, and academic history to be beyond pretentious and stupid.

So that’s when and where I stopped taking Op seriously.

Women like this make sure you know about their spouse, kids, childhood, and academic history. Because they are pushy and tell you about it even when you are backing away. That's the whole problem. You know all about them (because they have Main Character Syndrome) and they know nothing about you, because they view you as supporting cast whose role is simply to serve their goals. It's part of what makes them so irritating.

NP. What’s irritating you is that you know darn well that you aren’t a main character, and you don’t have the brains, passion, courage or charisma to be one.

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Anonymous wrote:I've lived here most of my adult life and moved here in 1999. I don't know any of these women. I don't associate with them. Just opt out. It is not hard.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t actually know anyone like that. But we’re kind of middle class.

OP here. We are not "kind of" middle class. We are middle class. We own a tiny home we bought for under 500k when rates were really low and cannot afford to fix it up or to move. We have extremely normal jobs with no power or prestige. Public schools, modest backgrounds. I work in a field with a lot of jobs in the DC area due to the federal government and all the universities, which is how we wound up here, but it's not a glamorous field at all.

My perception is that a lot of the people I encounter like this only make slightly more than we do, but either have a spouse making a lot or have money from family. We don't live in NW DC or one of the pricy suburbs. I assume this issue is even worse in those communities, but I'll never find out because we could never afford to live there, nor will we ever send our kids to any of these elite privates (or any private school) or get them involved in any super expensive EC. But even in our very middle class existence, I encounter people like this a lot.

This kind of shocks me. Your post sounds like you are upper middle class. I am the poster who has lived here since 1999. My kids are elementary and middle school. I am divorced. My ex's (our former) home is worth 1.3 and mine is worth a little over $1 million. Ex and I independently are "the millionaries next door" (not flashy). I have never met any of these women that you describe, but honestly my life is only work and kids and I work more than the average person. Be polite and don't be friends. Focus on your kids (and/or work); there is no reason to engage with these types of people.

Op is a troll. Her follow up posts are worse trolling than her Op.

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Anonymous wrote:I disagree women like this are always easily kept at arm's length. The whole issue with this personality is that they are pushy and that can impact other people. I have worked for a woman like this and I've dealt with one at my kid's school and both times it was pretty annoying to deal with them frequently pushing for personal advantages or stepping on toes or overreaching. It's not a crisis or anything, but it's a difficult personality type.

I don't know this person but one example of someone with this personality who would drive me nuts if our kids were in school together is that mom who was pushing really hard to redshirt her kid in DCPS earlier this year. I remember reading about that, and seeing interviews with her. Obviously people like that exist and sometimes their behavior has negative impacts on others.

Oh no, you were annoyed? People are sometimes difficult?

I love that you probably have, like, a “Rebel Girls” book that’s all about RBG, Rosa Parks, Sally Ride, Susan B. Anthony, and other annoying-ass women who wouldn’t stop being so damn pushy all the time. We encourage our girls to be assertive, invested, dedicated, determined, and outspoken, but then when women in our life actually do that, those pushy broads need to STFU, sit down and stop taking up so much space. How dare they want to influence their communities and advocate for their own best interest, and the best interests of their kids?

Uh, if you can't tell the difference between pushing for civil rights and pushing for your kid to get special treatment at their public school, I don't know what to say. No one here is complaining about Rosa Parks.

No, you’re just complaining about women acting on all those things we encourage them to do, following the endless examples of women leaders that we claim to admire. We’re just complaining when women are actually assertive, brave, outspoken, take-charge types who, yes indeed, try to influence the world, in ways big and small.

That’s what you’re doing. Own it.

The boss I had who asked nosy questions about my personal relationships so she could give me marital and financial advice was not "brave and outspoken." She was a pushy busybody who wanted to use her position as my boss to be controlling in my private life.

The fellow mom at my kid's school who demanded her kid be placed in her preferred teacher's class, and then also demanded the child she'd selected as her kid's "bestie" (note, I do not think that child wanted to be her kid's bestie) also be placed in that class to facilitate the friendship, was not following in the illustrious footsteps of Rosa Parks. She was a pushy helicopter mom with serious boundary issues.

Based on your post above, you share some qualities with these women (again, not with Rosa Parks). You want to mischaracterize what I think and what I said and then demand I "Own it"? NO. I know you hate that word but I'll say it again: NO.

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Anonymous wrote:I think what happens is sh*t needs to get done, so people ask people who have done the sh*t before successfully. Are they the nicest women you’d want to be friends with? Maybe not always. But they are there, doing things that benefit the community. Do they get a big head, are they rich enough that they have time to spare? Yes, often yes. This is the price of asking the quintessential PTA Mom or Church Lady to run things.

These women are rarely asked.

So why are others not stepping in and taking charge before they "maneuver" their way in? Others don't want to do take charge. It's similar to politics. A certain kind of personality is drawn to politics. People criticize them but don't want to jump in.

Someone else be proactive for a community event? Gasp.

Often other people don't step in because they don't want the event.

Our PTA organizes so many events throughout the year, I feel like it's too much. It becomes burdensome as a parent to participate because it seems like there is always something coming up that requires contributions and participation. My kids want to go to the event because it's talked up at school and their friends will be there, but for me it just means we're going to have to organize a weeknight around something at the school. I know some people love going but we don't -- I'm not super into small talk with other parents and on a weeknight my focus is on dinner, making sure kids do homework and take showers, and having a normal bedtime. I resent having those routines disrupted multiple times a month for school events.

The the school needs chaperones or volunteers to help with stuff around the school, my spouse and almost always volunteer. But we are not event people. I don't volunteer for these events because I don't like them. And I'm not particularly grateful to the people who organize them because they mostly just create obligation for me.

I agree with this. Same for all the organized teacher appreciation. I appreciate my teachers in my own way and don’t want to do your stuff PTA. Or the cookie carry things? Ask teachers - most don’t even want your cookies. It’s women creating more obligations and expectations and then expecting applause for doing so and many people feel guilt about it and contribute or participate because they feel pressure to do so.

Which brings us back to the OP. You’re either part of this whole ecosystem or you’re not. It’s easy to opt out. So opt out. Change the channel in your brain.

NP and you seriously need to look up the words “obligation” and “opportunity,” and learn the difference between those two things.

I have the opportunity to participate in PTA things like breakfast for the teachers; I sometimes do, I usually don’t. But I know I’m not *obligated* to do so. Instead, I choose to give cards and gifts to teachers in my own time, in my own way.

There are a lot of expectations out in the world that I choose not to feel pressured to meet. What with my free will and all. Do try to grow a spine and live your life the way you want to.

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Anonymous wrote:I disagree women like this are always easily kept at arm's length. The whole issue with this personality is that they are pushy and that can impact other people. I have worked for a woman like this and I've dealt with one at my kid's school and both times it was pretty annoying to deal with them frequently pushing for personal advantages or stepping on toes or overreaching. It's not a crisis or anything, but it's a difficult personality type.

I don't know this person but one example of someone with this personality who would drive me nuts if our kids were in school together is that mom who was pushing really hard to redshirt her kid in DCPS earlier this year. I remember reading about that, and seeing interviews with her. Obviously people like that exist and sometimes their behavior has negative impacts on others.

Oh no, you were annoyed? People are sometimes difficult?

I love that you probably have, like, a “Rebel Girls” book that’s all about RBG, Rosa Parks, Sally Ride, Susan B. Anthony, and other annoying-ass women who wouldn’t stop being so damn pushy all the time. We encourage our girls to be assertive, invested, dedicated, determined, and outspoken, but then when women in our life actually do that, those pushy broads need to STFU, sit down and stop taking up so much space. How dare they want to influence their communities and advocate for their own best interest, and the best interests of their kids?

Uh, if you can't tell the difference between pushing for civil rights and pushing for your kid to get special treatment at their public school, I don't know what to say. No one here is complaining about Rosa Parks.

No, you’re just complaining about women acting on all those things we encourage them to do, following the endless examples of women leaders that we claim to admire. We’re just complaining when women are actually assertive, brave, outspoken, take-charge types who, yes indeed, try to influence the world, in ways big and small.

That’s what you’re doing. Own it.

Not the PP and this is hilarious. Really.

I will own it and complain about women who use all their leadership energy to organize a bunch of events for kids they don’t need. This will continue into high school too for those who have little kids. Boosters for everything. We must influence the world by building an extensive process to feed them a gluten free or vegetarian or regular dinner! We must set it up for them and clean up after them! It’s inspirational!

And then we wonder why so many of them have trouble functioning as adults.

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OP, I applaud your skills of observation and description! It’s genius. I have no advice but just wanted to say you have hit a nail on its head!

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I don't know this person but one example of someone with this personality who would drive me nuts if our kids were in school together is that mom who was pushing really hard to redshirt her kid in DCPS earlier this year. I remember reading about that, and seeing interviews with her. Obviously people like that exist and sometimes their behavior has negative impacts on others.

Oh no, you were annoyed? People are sometimes difficult?

I love that you probably have, like, a “Rebel Girls” book that’s all about RBG, Rosa Parks, Sally Ride, Susan B. Anthony, and other annoying-ass women who wouldn’t stop being so damn pushy all the time. We encourage our girls to be assertive, invested, dedicated, determined, and outspoken, but then when women in our life actually do that, those pushy broads need to STFU, sit down and stop taking up so much space. How dare they want to influence their communities and advocate for their own best interest, and the best interests of their kids?

Uh, if you can't tell the difference between pushing for civil rights and pushing for your kid to get special treatment at their public school, I don't know what to say. No one here is complaining about Rosa Parks.

No, you’re just complaining about women acting on all those things we encourage them to do, following the endless examples of women leaders that we claim to admire. We’re just complaining when women are actually assertive, brave, outspoken, take-charge types who, yes indeed, try to influence the world, in ways big and small.

That’s what you’re doing. Own it.

The boss I had who asked nosy questions about my personal relationships so she could give me marital and financial advice was not "brave and outspoken." She was a pushy busybody who wanted to use her position as my boss to be controlling in my private life.

The fellow mom at my kid's school who demanded her kid be placed in her preferred teacher's class, and then also demanded the child she'd selected as her kid's "bestie" (note, I do not think that child wanted to be her kid's bestie) also be placed in that class to facilitate the friendship, was not following in the illustrious footsteps of Rosa Parks. She was a pushy helicopter mom with serious boundary issues.

Based on your post above, you share some qualities with these women (again, not with Rosa Parks). You want to mischaracterize what I think and what I said and then demand I "Own it"? NO. I know you hate that word but I'll say it again: NO.

Wow, your boss fired you when you declined to answer questions about your personal life? I do hope you contacted HR.

Wow, the fellow mom at your kid’s school cast an Imperius Curse on the entire administration of your school, and literally forced them to bend them to her will? That is really something. I hope you called Ghost Hunters, because that kind of witchcraft would make for a really cool episode.

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Anonymous wrote:NP. Actually it completely does. As evidenced by the amount of work you put into copying OP’s post, complete with overly familiar, not funny references (stage 5 clinger, SWF).

Your post isn’t clever and the OP does describe you. You were triggered for this reason.

LOL, wasn’t hard to copy and paste. I did add paragraph breaks because OP “who works in comms” doesn’t know how to use them. The only thing difficult about copying her writing style was that I would never be so long-winded.

So if you don't feel personally attacked by this thread topic, you are spending your Saturday posting extensively in this thread because... why?

No one would get this invested in this topic if their actual response to the OP was "huh, I have never encountered that, how strange." You are responding defensively.

And why shouldn’t I defend the women OP is trying to ridicule or diminish? Sure, I’m standing up for women whose crime is seemingly to exist, and be more popular, essential, successful and relevant than OP.

I thought your claim is that such women don't exist.

And why would anyone "popular, essential, successful, and relevant" need to be defended in a weekend thread on DCUM? The woman you describe would be 100% fine without your intervention.

I don’t care what anyone’s claim is.

I find people like Op claiming to know everything about someone’s childhood, marriage, spouse, kids, and academic history to be beyond pretentious and stupid.

So that’s when and where I stopped taking Op seriously.

Women like this make sure you know about their spouse, kids, childhood, and academic history. Because they are pushy and tell you about it even when you are backing away. That's the whole problem. You know all about them (because they have Main Character Syndrome) and they know nothing about you, because they view you as supporting cast whose role is simply to serve their goals. It's part of what makes them so irritating.

NP. What’s irritating you is that you know darn well that you aren’t a main character, and you don’t have the brains, passion, courage or charisma to be one.

I actually don't think of the world as having "main characters." I assume everyone has their own private trials and tribulations. I don't sit around thinking one person is important because they are PTA president or in a management position at their job, and other people are unimportant because they are not. I believe everyone matters and really bristle at the implication that someone doesn't deserve basic respect and decency just because they aren't in a visible position of power and influence.

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Anonymous wrote:NP. Actually it completely does. As evidenced by the amount of work you put into copying OP’s post, complete with overly familiar, not funny references (stage 5 clinger, SWF).

Your post isn’t clever and the OP does describe you. You were triggered for this reason.

LOL, wasn’t hard to copy and paste. I did add paragraph breaks because OP “who works in comms” doesn’t know how to use them. The only thing difficult about copying her writing style was that I would never be so long-winded.

So if you don't feel personally attacked by this thread topic, you are spending your Saturday posting extensively in this thread because... why?

No one would get this invested in this topic if their actual response to the OP was "huh, I have never encountered that, how strange." You are responding defensively.

And why shouldn’t I defend the women OP is trying to ridicule or diminish? Sure, I’m standing up for women whose crime is seemingly to exist, and be more popular, essential, successful and relevant than OP.

I thought your claim is that such women don't exist.

And why would anyone "popular, essential, successful, and relevant" need to be defended in a weekend thread on DCUM? The woman you describe would be 100% fine without your intervention.

I don’t care what anyone’s claim is.

I find people like Op claiming to know everything about someone’s childhood, marriage, spouse, kids, and academic history to be beyond pretentious and stupid.

So that’s when and where I stopped taking Op seriously.

Women like this make sure you know about their spouse, kids, childhood, and academic history. Because they are pushy and tell you about it even when you are backing away. That's the whole problem. You know all about them (because they have Main Character Syndrome) and they know nothing about you, because they view you as supporting cast whose role is simply to serve their goals. It's part of what makes them so irritating.

Lol. I have actually never met an adult mom in Washington DC, Arlington or bethesda who deliberately tells everyone about her background. Hilarious.

You must really attract some losers if this is the quality of your conversations and interactions with people. Maybe work on your line of questioning.