UVA mass shooting

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m o UVA grad and while I believe in the honor system, I would MUCH rather those resources go to addressing behavioral issues like what seems to have been the case with the shooter than worrying about if someone cheated on a test.

I'm a UVA grad here and I have always been troubled by UVA's student run honor system. Professionals should be handling this sort of thing, which includes getting students the help and resources they need.

It was being referred to Judiciary -- this is not an Honor issue (which covers lying, cheating, stealing).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m o UVA grad and while I believe in the honor system, I would MUCH rather those resources go to addressing behavioral issues like what seems to have been the case with the shooter than worrying about if someone cheated on a test.

I'm a UVA grad here and I have always been troubled by UVA's student run honor system. Professionals should be handling this sort of thing, which includes getting students the help and resources they need.

What is the student run honor system? People narc on each other?

Uva grad here - pretty much.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m o UVA grad and while I believe in the honor system, I would MUCH rather those resources go to addressing behavioral issues like what seems to have been the case with the shooter than worrying about if someone cheated on a test.

I'm a UVA grad here and I have always been troubled by UVA's student run honor system. Professionals should be handling this sort of thing, which includes getting students the help and resources they need.

I always was too. It's kind of archaic. Reminds me of taps or some military school.

It may have had a time in place, but in 2022 and big $$ invested in college, it really should be that decisions deciding a student's fate need to be handled by professionals.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Glad they cancelled, and hope they don't play the VT game. Those boys need to go home for Thanksgiving and be with their loved ones.

There is talk they are cancelling the rest of the season.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Glad they cancelled, and hope they don't play the VT game. Those boys need to go home for Thanksgiving and be with their loved ones.

There is talk they are cancelling the rest of the season.

That is the rest of the season. This weekend already cancelled. Last game is always vs VT.

[Anonymous]

He purchased 2 guns legally after his prohibition of buying firearms was removed.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/17/us/university-of-virginia-shooting-thursday/index.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He purchased 2 guns legally after his prohibition of buying firearms was removed.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/17/us/university-of-virginia-shooting-thursday/index.html

Should’ve been prosecuted for the attempted unlawful purchases, despite background checks having prevented him from taking possession. Why wasn’t he?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m o UVA grad and while I believe in the honor system, I would MUCH rather those resources go to addressing behavioral issues like what seems to have been the case with the shooter than worrying about if someone cheated on a test.

I'm a UVA grad here and I have always been troubled by UVA's student run honor system. Professionals should be handling this sort of thing, which includes getting students the help and resources they need.

It was being referred to Judiciary -- this is not an Honor issue (which covers lying, cheating, stealing).

+1 Sure way to know someone is lying about being a student or an alum is to see them not know the difference between honor and judicial matters. The PPs who are talking about this being a matter for Honor Council obviously didn't go to UVA. No one who went there would get that wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m o UVA grad and while I believe in the honor system, I would MUCH rather those resources go to addressing behavioral issues like what seems to have been the case with the shooter than worrying about if someone cheated on a test.

I'm a UVA grad here and I have always been troubled by UVA's student run honor system. Professionals should be handling this sort of thing, which includes getting students the help and resources they need.

It was being referred to Judiciary -- this is not an Honor issue (which covers lying, cheating, stealing).

+1 Sure way to know someone is lying about being a student or an alum is to see them not know the difference between honor and judicial matters. The PPs who are talking about this being a matter for Honor Council obviously didn't go to UVA. No one who went there would get that wrong.

I’m not the PP, but 100% a UVA alum (and current employee!), who couldn’t tell you the difference between honor and judicial matters without having to look it up. But we’re all so impressed by you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He purchased 2 guns legally after his prohibition of buying firearms was removed.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/17/us/university-of-virginia-shooting-thursday/index.html

Should’ve been prosecuted for the attempted unlawful purchases, despite background checks having prevented him from taking possession. Why wasn’t he?

Well if you had bothered to read the CNN article you would have learned that the sales and transfers of gun never happened so no reporting was required to the state.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He purchased 2 guns legally after his prohibition of buying firearms was removed.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/17/us/university-of-virginia-shooting-thursday/index.html

Should’ve been prosecuted for the attempted unlawful purchases, despite background checks having prevented him from taking possession. Why wasn’t he?

Well if you had bothered to read the CNN article you would have learned that the sales and transfers of gun never happened so no reporting was required to the state.

Well, if you’d bothered to read the US Code and relevant CFR, you’d know that the mere attempt by a prohibited person to obtain a firearm is a criminal offense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He purchased 2 guns legally after his prohibition of buying firearms was removed.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/17/us/university-of-virginia-shooting-thursday/index.html

Should’ve been prosecuted for the attempted unlawful purchases, despite background checks having prevented him from taking possession. Why wasn’t he?

Well if you had bothered to read the CNN article you would have learned that the sales and transfers of gun never happened so no reporting was required to the state.

Well, if you’d bothered to read the US Code and relevant CFR, you’d know that the mere attempt by a prohibited person to obtain a firearm is a criminal offense.

Not sure why these people continue to try and play gotcha when they don't know what they're talking about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m o UVA grad and while I believe in the honor system, I would MUCH rather those resources go to addressing behavioral issues like what seems to have been the case with the shooter than worrying about if someone cheated on a test.

I'm a UVA grad here and I have always been troubled by UVA's student run honor system. Professionals should be handling this sort of thing, which includes getting students the help and resources they need.

It was being referred to Judiciary -- this is not an Honor issue (which covers lying, cheating, stealing).

+1 Sure way to know someone is lying about being a student or an alum is to see them not know the difference between honor and judicial matters. The PPs who are talking about this being a matter for Honor Council obviously didn't go to UVA. No one who went there would get that wrong.

I’m not the PP, but 100% a UVA alum (and current employee!), who couldn’t tell you the difference between honor and judicial matters without having to look it up. But we’re all so impressed by you.

I’m the PP and I went to UVA. I was making a broader point. But you got me! Pat yourself on the back.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Virginia has a state law that caps lawsuit awards against the Commonwealth at $100k.

Really? But personal lawsuits have no cap. How wonderful of them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is so sad. The suspect had a promising future too. He was a star in high school. What happened and how can it be prevented in the future? Was it bullying? Was he a victim of hazing? Bullying takes a huge toll on victims and perpetrators alike. (Not saying the victims were bullying him.)

From CNN:

“His father, Chris Jones Sr., told CNN affiliate WTVR that his son was "real paranoid ... about something. He wouldn't tell me everything."

Some people were picking on him and Jones Jr. said he didn't know how to handle it, the father told WTKR of a conversation they had a month ago when his son visited. He said he advised his son to just go to class and ignore them.

The father apologized for his son's alleged actions and said he couldn't believe it was him when he was told the news by police.

Jones is from Petersburg, about 24 miles south of Richmond. He went to Varina High School in Henrico County -- about 30 minutes from Petersburg -- for three years where he was a star football player, a member of the National Honor Society, president of the Key Club and student of the year as a freshman and sophomore, according to the UVA football website.

He played his senior season at Petersburg High School where he was honorable mention all-conference as a running back and linebacker.”

How does someone with these stats not understand that killing people is wrong? Just over some words? Football head injury maybe? I mean Key Club and shootings don't usually go together.

You sound extremely naïve. With very simplistic models of mental health in your brain.

What am I missing? How does one go from doing great in school and sports and head of a volunteer organization to going on a shooting rampage without some brain injury?