UVA mass shooting

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good article on “threat assessment teams” which says it seems that UVA did it by the book.

Perhaps they "did it by the book", but if I understand correctly they knew about his criminal record involving guns and the hearsay that he had a weapon. Could they have done more and escalated this and worked on this with urgency despite all the red tape in their system? What is the answer to this question, was it in their power? My guess is, yes.

Your guess and a quarter are worth exactly 25 cents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here is a link to yesterday's memorial service. I went to the service and so did some friends. Others watched it on line. Everyone was deeply moved. https://www.virginia.edu/live

Thank you for posting this. The service was heart breaking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good article on “threat assessment teams” which says it seems that UVA did it by the book.

Perhaps they "did it by the book", but if I understand correctly they knew about his criminal record involving guns and the hearsay that he had a weapon. Could they have done more and escalated this and worked on this with urgency despite all the red tape in their system? What is the answer to this question, was it in their power? My guess is, yes.

Your guess and a quarter are worth exactly 25 cents.

Unfortunately, both of these PPs are probably correct.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Somewhat off-topic, but my DS is a first year at UVA. With the news about the shooter’s multiple guns in his room and what the University knew about him before Sunday, my DS is feeling enraged at the University administration. He wants to mourn these students but not feel that about his college.

I’m a Tech alum and I was a freshman during the shooting there. It is a normal reaction To this kind of event. I agree with the suggestion of therapy to talk it through. Unfortunately, when college students can legally purchase firearms you are going to have this sort of thing happen over and over again. I hate to sound so trite, but I’m speaking as someone who went through the same emotions as an 18/19 year old.

Anger is a completely normal reaction. Check out this info from UVA and ignore the haters on here.

https://news.virginia.edu/content/moving-forward-how-should-parents-interact-their-students-over-break?utm_source=UFacebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=news&fbclid=IwAR2YUv7Nl5R64cbssIfmgEs_RkZg9UdKrjg6elxtU69Ems7LTxDMSc3yHxk

+1. FWIW I am there and think the University is doing all it can. I saw this today and was going to post but you beat me to it. PP should tell their kid that we have no idea who is to "blame" for anything at this point. We still don't know if there was even a motive or if this was caused by mental illness or something else. There were early stories of the shooter being involved in a harassment incident - that story seems to have disappeared. There are a lot of stories flying around but we really don't know the lay of the land yet. James Ryan has asked for an independent special counsel to investigate the University's role. PP's child should seek the help cited above but not be so quick to blame the University. It is just too soon to tell if it should or should not have done something. It just is . . . let's see what develops over the next few weeks before casting asperations. And for the record, if I remember correctly, at VT it turned out that the shooter had mental health issues in high school which were not disclosed to VT by the student or parents so VT admitted the student not knowing of the problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here is a link to yesterday's memorial service. I went to the service and so did some friends. Others watched it on line. Everyone was deeply moved. https://www.virginia.edu/live

Thank you for posting this. The service was heart breaking.

It was. And very well done, especially considering how fast it was put together. There have also been candle vigils.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Somewhat off-topic, but my DS is a first year at UVA. With the news about the shooter’s multiple guns in his room and what the University knew about him before Sunday, my DS is feeling enraged at the University administration. He wants to mourn these students but not feel that about his college.

I’m a Tech alum and I was a freshman during the shooting there. It is a normal reaction To this kind of event. I agree with the suggestion of therapy to talk it through. Unfortunately, when college students can legally purchase firearms you are going to have this sort of thing happen over and over again. I hate to sound so trite, but I’m speaking as someone who went through the same emotions as an 18/19 year old.

Anger is a completely normal reaction. Check out this info from UVA and ignore the haters on here.

https://news.virginia.edu/content/moving-forward-how-should-parents-interact-their-students-over-break?utm_source=UFacebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=news&fbclid=IwAR2YUv7Nl5R64cbssIfmgEs_RkZg9UdKrjg6elxtU69Ems7LTxDMSc3yHxk

PP you responded to. Yes, anger is a completely normal reaction and I hope that I made that clear in my post. It’s not a “red flag” like someone else said. It’s normal to want to place blame. I went though it, too.

Anger is not a red flag the comment was "enraged at the University" which is a red flag. Anger and "enraged" are two separate things. An "enraged" student caused this act of violence and when that word is used it needs to be called out. If this person is enraged they need to seek professional help to keep it from going someplace else.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Somewhat off-topic, but my DS is a first year at UVA. With the news about the shooter’s multiple guns in his room and what the University knew about him before Sunday, my DS is feeling enraged at the University administration. He wants to mourn these students but not feel that about his college.

I’m a Tech alum and I was a freshman during the shooting there. It is a normal reaction To this kind of event. I agree with the suggestion of therapy to talk it through. Unfortunately, when college students can legally purchase firearms you are going to have this sort of thing happen over and over again. I hate to sound so trite, but I’m speaking as someone who went through the same emotions as an 18/19 year old.

Anger is a completely normal reaction. Check out this info from UVA and ignore the haters on here.

https://news.virginia.edu/content/moving-forward-how-should-parents-interact-their-students-over-break?utm_source=UFacebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=news&fbclid=IwAR2YUv7Nl5R64cbssIfmgEs_RkZg9UdKrjg6elxtU69Ems7LTxDMSc3yHxk

PP you responded to. Yes, anger is a completely normal reaction and I hope that I made that clear in my post. It’s not a “red flag” like someone else said. It’s normal to want to place blame. I went though it, too.

Anger is not a red flag the comment was "enraged at the University" which is a red flag. Anger and "enraged" are two separate things. An "enraged" student caused this act of violence and when that word is used it needs to be called out. If this person is enraged they need to seek professional help to keep it from going someplace else.

This is true. Also unfounded at this point if directed at the University. There aren't enough facts in to warrant being "enraged" at anyone yet (well, other than the shooter, perhaps, but this may turn out to be schizophrenia). We just don't know enough yet.