School Shooting in Michigan. 3 Teens DEAD. 1 15-yr old suspect in custody.

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Anonymous wrote:I think you go from a sweet 11 year old to a gun toting 15 year old when you grow up with the kind of parents who would send that letter to Trump. They made this kid.

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Their "sweet boy" (always this) doesn't just "snap" - the parents know damn well about their kid's propensity to snap, and failed every one of the deceased's families when the shooter's parents decided to do anything else but help their own kid. Disgusting.

They grew up in this world and the parents encouraged it. They knew their kid had problems and instead of them changing, they bought guns.[/quote]

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"But it's everyone else's fault! Because bully!!!!!!"

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Anonymous wrote:Everyone is a "realtor". It's not a real career for 90% of those with a license which is easier to get than a GED. The address the police searched was a dump worth all of $100k.

Yup. Still practiced in PR and deflecting in the principal's office.

I've seen people overpay in the richest neighborhoods, and their kids still turn out this way. It's not about money. It's about PR and their trope about "bullying" - ie: "my kid can do what he wants when he wants, because I'm too tired of dealing with him and his antics, so I'm going to bury my head in the sand". And that is what happened. Are his parents happy now?

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He looks......OFF......

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I don't know what the previous PP is smoking.
I have coworkers whose kids previously attended Oxford. PP has no idea what kind of school it is. But they've got a story to tell.

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Maybe if the parents who fail these "sweet boys" (always this) would not be so worried about their narrative - but instead, be more concerned about their family, and their impact on the world, their sons would not be shooting up schools.

My kids are in middle school - but they can't graduate soon enough for me. Parents should not have to be worried every time they drop their kid off at the bus stop, that it might be the last time they see them, because Mrs. Smith down the street can't be bothered to care about anything but herself and her narrative.

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Anonymous wrote:Update: his parents --or father and stepmother, it's not clear--met with the principal THE SAME DAY about the kid's "concerning behavior" in school. https://www.thedailybeast.com/ethan-crumbley-identified-as-oxford-high-school-michigan-mass-shooter?ref=scroll

The letter quoted in the article written by the suspect’s mother (stepmother?) to Trump was vile.

And she is convinced that they are middle class, no, you are poor. This is the problem, the mother has identified with a segment of population that she has nothing in common with. She speaks of immigrants, etc.

Of course they are conservative Trump trash!

Shocked face. And poor as dirt, so voting against their own interests. Those low information voters he loves so much.

Both of you are disgusting.

No sweetheart. It's the mom who is disgusting. I hope she gets her wish in her last sentence. During her long prison sentence.

My comment is not about her, this is a separte issue that has nothing to do with her. It's about YOU and your vile comments about someone being "dirt poor."

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Teacher here. I do worry that kids are suffering mentally from the past two years of the pandemic, I’m almost surprised we aren’t having more incidents than this. I see academic problems more but I know there are underlying mental problems I’m only barely seeing.

Really concerned for our current generation of children.

As a parent and a person who has close friends who are teachers, I worry about the same thing. But remember that children all over the world have been affected by the pandemic and have been physically out of school for months or years or have had numerous disruptions to their education. But it's only in America that they are shooting up their classmates and teachers. What ails us is deeper than covid.

That is not true. School violence, fights, aggression towards other kids, against teachers, parents etc - it is way up all over the world.

To say only US kids were harmed by distance learning and lockdowns is to distort the truth.

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Teacher here. I do worry that kids are suffering mentally from the past two years of the pandemic, I’m almost surprised we aren’t having more incidents than this. I see academic problems more but I know there are underlying mental problems I’m only barely seeing.

Really concerned for our current generation of children.

As a parent and a person who has close friends who are teachers, I worry about the same thing. But remember that children all over the world have been affected by the pandemic and have been physically out of school for months or years or have had numerous disruptions to their education. But it's only in America that they are shooting up their classmates and teachers. What ails us is deeper than covid.

That is not true. School violence, fights, aggression towards other kids, against teachers, parents etc - it is way up all over the world.

To say only US kids were harmed by distance learning and lockdowns is to distort the truth.

Cite please for some modern countries? Since you wouldn't want to distort the truth.

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Anonymous wrote:Update: his parents --or father and stepmother, it's not clear--met with the principal THE SAME DAY about the kid's "concerning behavior" in school. https://www.thedailybeast.com/ethan-crumbley-identified-as-oxford-high-school-michigan-mass-shooter?ref=scroll

The letter quoted in the article written by the suspect’s mother (stepmother?) to Trump was vile.

And she is convinced that they are middle class, no, you are poor. This is the problem, the mother has identified with a segment of population that she has nothing in common with. She speaks of immigrants, etc.

Of course they are conservative Trump trash!

Shocked face. And poor as dirt, so voting against their own interests. Those low information voters he loves so much.

Both of you are disgusting.

No sweetheart. It's the mom who is disgusting. I hope she gets her wish in her last sentence. During her long prison sentence.

My comment is not about her, this is a separte issue that has nothing to do with her. It's about YOU and your vile comments about someone being "dirt poor."

I was the earlier poster who called the mom Trump trash and hope she gets wants she wanted during prison.

I don't know how poor they were. I can clearly see they are trash and it has nothing to do with money.

Why don't you try being disgusted with the murderer and his enabling parents instead?

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe if the parents who fail these "sweet boys" (always this) would not be so worried about their narrative - but instead, be more concerned about their family, and their impact on the world, their sons would not be shooting up schools.

My kids are in middle school - but they can't graduate soon enough for me. Parents should not have to be worried every time they drop their kid off at the bus stop, that it might be the last time they see them, because Mrs. Smith down the street can't be bothered to care about anything but herself and her narrative.

So sexist.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe if the parents who fail these "sweet boys" (always this) would not be so worried about their narrative - but instead, be more concerned about their family, and their impact on the world, their sons would not be shooting up schools.

My kids are in middle school - but they can't graduate soon enough for me. Parents should not have to be worried every time they drop their kid off at the bus stop, that it might be the last time they see them, because Mrs. Smith down the street can't be bothered to care about anything but herself and her narrative.

So sexist.

True - I mean the mom wrote the awful blog post but it was the dad who bought the gun!!

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Anonymous wrote:"Sensing danger, many kids stayed home Tuesday instead of going to school, if online accounts are to be believed. One teenager told a local television station that the alleged gunman was one of those kids who gets bullied."

https://www.deadlinedetroit.com/articles/29372/leduff_as_oxford_high_gets_th_spotlight_where_do_we_go_from_herel0

The article states that bullying is NO reason at all for students to be shot. Stop trying to perpetuate the message that we are expected to kowtow to parents unwilling to parent, but instead often cry "bully!" to get their way, and to neglect and fail their child. This kid obviously needed help - and their parents instead bought and left unlocked a gun??? Just stop.

This was a sweet boy just a few years ago; volunteering, compassion for the poor, he had friends and hobbies. It is OBVIOUS this meek, poor, unathletic teen boy was ruthlessly bullied in this mismanaged and overcrowded nearly 2,000 pupil high school full of bused in school of choice students. You know it, I know it. Do you expect the teens in the school to admit it? You expect the district and the apathetic administrators to admit it? Of course not. Nobody saw anything, nobody ever bothered him, the kid was invisible.

Bullying is no excuse for retaliating, in any way, form or fashion - especially killing people. Are you really trying to defend this?

His parents FAILED him. Period. His parents OWED him proper professional help - NOT an unlocked gun.

Listen to yourself and your tired trope.

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As a formerly severely bullied kid, that PP is sick in the head.

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The "death" quote in his instagram profile was from a video game. Call of Duty, apparently.

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Why don’t all high schools have metal detectors and an armed officer by now? I though most do.

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In Europe we had academically selective schools where you take an IQ test age 11 and if you're bright you go to the learning school and if you're not you go to the other school for messing about. That stops a lot of those negative interactions between kids who are just there to mess around (or worse) and kids trying to learn. While American public schools have no vetting process whatsoever. You might have raised a functional and smart child in a ideal environment, but once you sent them to public school you expose them to an ethos of bullies, future criminals, children of single moms, children on drugs, lunatic teachers, apathetic administration, and so forth.