Mothers - How many sex partners would you want your daughter to have prior to marriage?

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Anonymous wrote:Why do people want to be free to act with judgment from others?

You can do whatever you want, but you're going to be judged for it.

Your potential future partners will judge you for it.

What you seem to be (willfully) missing is that not everyone will judge women the way you do. While some men might go off on your "congrats for sucking 50 dicks" tangent, other men (yes, even (gasp) "good" men) might not care about the number and focus more on the person, or be impressed with the breadth of experience, or just not care that much at all. Please repeat this to yourself: Other People Are Not Me.

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Anonymous wrote:I think that many men would feel insecure and apprehensive if their girlfriend had sex with 30 or more men before them. No doubt, many such men would not likely marry a woman that had sex with more than 30 men. Many men think women are sluts and permanently damaged and worthless if they've had more than 10 men, let alone 30 or more.

It is entirely possible that a man could feel literal disgust at a woman who has had 30+ partners.

That is not being insecure - that is being smart.

Disgust? Why, though? Wouldn't a man be overjoyed with marrying a woman that's ridden so many men? She's experienced! She's sexually "empowered" and has no hesitation to grab any man that makes her "tingle" and very comfortable in pursuing her desires to get screwed silly as much as she can! Isn't such a passionate, empowered attitude a good thing in a woman?

Blanket statements like this are not applicable to all men. I know men who would be completely comfortable with a woman who had more than 30 partners. They don't view sex as something that is dirty or something that contaminates a person's body.

The kind of disgust you are talking about is based in a view of sex as something dirty and contaminating. It's a superstition.

If you feel that way, bless your heart.

Do you think there are any QUALITY men whose opinion of a women is positively correlated to the number of sex partners she has had?

Oh honey, the thought of you sucking 50 different dicks just makes me so much more attracted to you!
Oh sweetie, I'm so glad you had those threesomes in college! can we have one now? no?
Oh kitten, it was 50 sweaty men that you stuck their dicks in your vagina? WOW that makes me feel really special!


Not a god damn one, thats how many.

Speak for yourself.

You are clearly fairly sexually and socially inexperienced or you would know more quality men who don't care.

I'm sorry for your ignorance. There isn't much help for it, though.

Nice try.

But no.

There is not a single person on the planet who can make this argument with a straight face:

ALL OTHER THINGS EQUAL: I chose the higher partner number over the lower

Impossible. not going to happen. all other things equal like hotness, sex quality, self confidence, self image, all that

*shrug*

I know several men who would chose the higher number partner over the lower.

They chose a higher number partner over the lower because they view her as a person who likes sex and a person with a very low number of partners as a woman who doesn't really like sex. They don't want to be stuck with an asexual woman in a long term relationship.

They chose the higher number partner over the lower because they view the higher number person as someone who has better skills. People without many sexual partners tend to have worse skills, unless they make an effort to learn what they are doing. Most don't make an effort. They're bad lays.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why do people want to be free to act with judgment from others?

You can do whatever you want, but you're going to be judged for it.

Your potential future partners will judge you for it.

What you seem to be (willfully) missing is that not everyone will judge women the way you do. While some men might go off on your "congrats for sucking 50 dicks" tangent, other men (yes, even (gasp) "good" men) might not care about the number and focus more on the person, or be impressed with the breadth of experience, or just not care that much at all. Please repeat this to yourself: Other People Are Not Me.

Please make the case how sucking 50 dicks makes you a better person in any way?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think that many men would feel insecure and apprehensive if their girlfriend had sex with 30 or more men before them. No doubt, many such men would not likely marry a woman that had sex with more than 30 men. Many men think women are sluts and permanently damaged and worthless if they've had more than 10 men, let alone 30 or more.

It is entirely possible that a man could feel literal disgust at a woman who has had 30+ partners.

That is not being insecure - that is being smart.

Disgust? Why, though? Wouldn't a man be overjoyed with marrying a woman that's ridden so many men? She's experienced! She's sexually "empowered" and has no hesitation to grab any man that makes her "tingle" and very comfortable in pursuing her desires to get screwed silly as much as she can! Isn't such a passionate, empowered attitude a good thing in a woman?

Blanket statements like this are not applicable to all men. I know men who would be completely comfortable with a woman who had more than 30 partners. They don't view sex as something that is dirty or something that contaminates a person's body.

The kind of disgust you are talking about is based in a view of sex as something dirty and contaminating. It's a superstition.

If you feel that way, bless your heart.

Do you think there are any QUALITY men whose opinion of a women is positively correlated to the number of sex partners she has had?

Oh honey, the thought of you sucking 50 different dicks just makes me so much more attracted to you!
Oh sweetie, I'm so glad you had those threesomes in college! can we have one now? no?
Oh kitten, it was 50 sweaty men that you stuck their dicks in your vagina? WOW that makes me feel really special!


Not a god damn one, thats how many.

Speak for yourself.

You are clearly fairly sexually and socially inexperienced or you would know more quality men who don't care.

I'm sorry for your ignorance. There isn't much help for it, though.

Nice try.

But no.

There is not a single person on the planet who can make this argument with a straight face:

ALL OTHER THINGS EQUAL: I chose the higher partner number over the lower

Impossible. not going to happen. all other things equal like hotness, sex quality, self confidence, self image, all that

Well, all other things are never equal, because in reality, we are always talking about two different people, but to save you the trouble of posting "THAT'S NOT THE QUESTION YOU MUST ANSWER ONLY AND EXACTLY THE QUESTION I POSE!!!!!!!" here you go: I would rather be with someone who has slept with more people. I like to know that they know what they're doing in bed, and, if I'm interested in a long-term, monogamous relationship, I want to increase the odds that they won't see the need to wander for novelty's sake.

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Anonymous wrote:I think that many men would feel insecure and apprehensive if their girlfriend had sex with 30 or more men before them. No doubt, many such men would not likely marry a woman that had sex with more than 30 men. Many men think women are sluts and permanently damaged and worthless if they've had more than 10 men, let alone 30 or more.

It is entirely possible that a man could feel literal disgust at a woman who has had 30+ partners.

That is not being insecure - that is being smart.

Disgust? Why, though? Wouldn't a man be overjoyed with marrying a woman that's ridden so many men? She's experienced! She's sexually "empowered" and has no hesitation to grab any man that makes her "tingle" and very comfortable in pursuing her desires to get screwed silly as much as she can! Isn't such a passionate, empowered attitude a good thing in a woman?

Blanket statements like this are not applicable to all men. I know men who would be completely comfortable with a woman who had more than 30 partners. They don't view sex as something that is dirty or something that contaminates a person's body.

The kind of disgust you are talking about is based in a view of sex as something dirty and contaminating. It's a superstition.

If you feel that way, bless your heart.

Do you think there are any QUALITY men whose opinion of a women is positively correlated to the number of sex partners she has had?

Oh honey, the thought of you sucking 50 different dicks just makes me so much more attracted to you!
Oh sweetie, I'm so glad you had those threesomes in college! can we have one now? no?
Oh kitten, it was 50 sweaty men that you stuck their dicks in your vagina? WOW that makes me feel really special!


Not a god damn one, thats how many.

Speak for yourself.

You are clearly fairly sexually and socially inexperienced or you would know more quality men who don't care.

I'm sorry for your ignorance. There isn't much help for it, though.

Nice try.

But no.

There is not a single person on the planet who can make this argument with a straight face:

ALL OTHER THINGS EQUAL: I chose the higher partner number over the lower

Impossible. not going to happen. all other things equal like hotness, sex quality, self confidence, self image, all that

*shrug*

I know several men who would chose the higher number partner over the lower.

They chose a higher number partner over the lower because they view her as a person who likes sex and a person with a very low number of partners as a woman who doesn't really like sex. They don't want to be stuck with an asexual woman in a long term relationship.

They chose the higher number partner over the lower because they view the higher number person as someone who has better skills. People without many sexual partners tend to have worse skills, unless they make an effort to learn what they are doing. Most don't make an effort. They're bad lays.

jesus. I said ALL OTHER THINGS EQUAL

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why do people want to be free to act with judgment from others?

You can do whatever you want, but you're going to be judged for it.

Your potential future partners will judge you for it.

Turn this around. Why do you want to be free to judge women on the number of sexual partners they have without being labeled a misogynstic, anti-sex, prick/bitch?

Because you do. Because you want to think of yourself as a good person. Because you want others to think of you as a good person, or at least, leave you alone.

Human nature.

You don't seem to understand it, though.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why do people want to be free to act with judgment from others?

You can do whatever you want, but you're going to be judged for it.

Your potential future partners will judge you for it.

What you seem to be (willfully) missing is that not everyone will judge women the way you do. While some men might go off on your "congrats for sucking 50 dicks" tangent, other men (yes, even (gasp) "good" men) might not care about the number and focus more on the person, or be impressed with the breadth of experience, or just not care that much at all. Please repeat this to yourself: Other People Are Not Me.

Please make the case how sucking 50 dicks makes you a better person in any way?

It makes you better at sucking dick.

And, assuming you're not sucking those 50 dicks because you're being forced to/you're getting personal affirmation from sexual attention/etc., it means you are sexually confident.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think that many men would feel insecure and apprehensive if their girlfriend had sex with 30 or more men before them. No doubt, many such men would not likely marry a woman that had sex with more than 30 men. Many men think women are sluts and permanently damaged and worthless if they've had more than 10 men, let alone 30 or more.

It is entirely possible that a man could feel literal disgust at a woman who has had 30+ partners.

That is not being insecure - that is being smart.

Disgust? Why, though? Wouldn't a man be overjoyed with marrying a woman that's ridden so many men? She's experienced! She's sexually "empowered" and has no hesitation to grab any man that makes her "tingle" and very comfortable in pursuing her desires to get screwed silly as much as she can! Isn't such a passionate, empowered attitude a good thing in a woman?

Blanket statements like this are not applicable to all men. I know men who would be completely comfortable with a woman who had more than 30 partners. They don't view sex as something that is dirty or something that contaminates a person's body.

The kind of disgust you are talking about is based in a view of sex as something dirty and contaminating. It's a superstition.

If you feel that way, bless your heart.

Do you think there are any QUALITY men whose opinion of a women is positively correlated to the number of sex partners she has had?

Oh honey, the thought of you sucking 50 different dicks just makes me so much more attracted to you!
Oh sweetie, I'm so glad you had those threesomes in college! can we have one now? no?
Oh kitten, it was 50 sweaty men that you stuck their dicks in your vagina? WOW that makes me feel really special!


Not a god damn one, thats how many.

Speak for yourself.

You are clearly fairly sexually and socially inexperienced or you would know more quality men who don't care.

I'm sorry for your ignorance. There isn't much help for it, though.

Nice try.

But no.

There is not a single person on the planet who can make this argument with a straight face:

ALL OTHER THINGS EQUAL: I chose the higher partner number over the lower

Impossible. not going to happen. all other things equal like hotness, sex quality, self confidence, self image, all that

*shrug*

I know several men who would chose the higher number partner over the lower.

They chose a higher number partner over the lower because they view her as a person who likes sex and a person with a very low number of partners as a woman who doesn't really like sex. They don't want to be stuck with an asexual woman in a long term relationship.

They chose the higher number partner over the lower because they view the higher number person as someone who has better skills. People without many sexual partners tend to have worse skills, unless they make an effort to learn what they are doing. Most don't make an effort. They're bad lays.

jesus. I said ALL OTHER THINGS EQUAL

Partners with less experience aren't equal, though. You trade one thing for the other.

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Anonymous wrote:I think that many men would feel insecure and apprehensive if their girlfriend had sex with 30 or more men before them. No doubt, many such men would not likely marry a woman that had sex with more than 30 men. Many men think women are sluts and permanently damaged and worthless if they've had more than 10 men, let alone 30 or more.

It is entirely possible that a man could feel literal disgust at a woman who has had 30+ partners.

That is not being insecure - that is being smart.

Disgust? Why, though? Wouldn't a man be overjoyed with marrying a woman that's ridden so many men? She's experienced! She's sexually "empowered" and has no hesitation to grab any man that makes her "tingle" and very comfortable in pursuing her desires to get screwed silly as much as she can! Isn't such a passionate, empowered attitude a good thing in a woman?

Blanket statements like this are not applicable to all men. I know men who would be completely comfortable with a woman who had more than 30 partners. They don't view sex as something that is dirty or something that contaminates a person's body.

The kind of disgust you are talking about is based in a view of sex as something dirty and contaminating. It's a superstition.

If you feel that way, bless your heart.

Do you think there are any QUALITY men whose opinion of a women is positively correlated to the number of sex partners she has had?

Oh honey, the thought of you sucking 50 different dicks just makes me so much more attracted to you!
Oh sweetie, I'm so glad you had those threesomes in college! can we have one now? no?
Oh kitten, it was 50 sweaty men that you stuck their dicks in your vagina? WOW that makes me feel really special!


Not a god damn one, thats how many.

Speak for yourself.

You are clearly fairly sexually and socially inexperienced or you would know more quality men who don't care.

I'm sorry for your ignorance. There isn't much help for it, though.

Nice try.

But no.

There is not a single person on the planet who can make this argument with a straight face:

ALL OTHER THINGS EQUAL: I chose the higher partner number over the lower

Impossible. not going to happen. all other things equal like hotness, sex quality, self confidence, self image, all that

Well, all other things are never equal, because in reality, we are always talking about two different people, but to save you the trouble of posting "THAT'S NOT THE QUESTION YOU MUST ANSWER ONLY AND EXACTLY THE QUESTION I POSE!!!!!!!" here you go: I would rather be with someone who has slept with more people. I like to know that they know what they're doing in bed, and, if I'm interested in a long-term, monogamous relationship, I want to increase the odds that they won't see the need to wander for novelty's sake.

and what is the point of diminishing returns for that extra experience and "stability" ?

is it 5? 10? 15? 25? 50? 100? at what point does it begin to manifest negative attributes rather than positive ones?


this is real crux of the matter. many posters saying higher is better! but no, higher is not better because we can all safely say that 10,000 is not better than 1. so if there is in fact a point of diminishing returns - what is it for you?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why do people want to be free to act with judgment from others?

You can do whatever you want, but you're going to be judged for it.

Your potential future partners will judge you for it.

What you seem to be (willfully) missing is that not everyone will judge women the way you do. While some men might go off on your "congrats for sucking 50 dicks" tangent, other men (yes, even (gasp) "good" men) might not care about the number and focus more on the person, or be impressed with the breadth of experience, or just not care that much at all. Please repeat this to yourself: Other People Are Not Me.

Please make the case how sucking 50 dicks makes you a better person in any way?

You're the one who thinks it matters. How does it make you a worse person?

I don't think the number of dicks sucked in one's life makes a bit difference as to whether you are a better person or a worse person. It doesn't matter.

[Anonymous]

This whole thread is so strange to me. I met and married my husband when we were both in our 30s. I don't think we ever discussed our numbers with each other, other than maybe in a joking, "more than 10 and less than 100" way. We certainly discussed safe sex, birth control, and monogamy, which was what was important.

We've been married almost 10 years now. No daughters, but we expect our sons to practice safe sex and to be respectful in their dating practices and cognizant of the complexities of sexual relationships.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why do people want to be free to act with judgment from others?

You can do whatever you want, but you're going to be judged for it.

Your potential future partners will judge you for it.

Turn this around. Why do you want to be free to judge women on the number of sexual partners they have without being labeled a misogynstic, anti-sex, prick/bitch?

Because you do. Because you want to think of yourself as a good person. Because you want others to think of you as a good person, or at least, leave you alone.

Human nature.

You don't seem to understand it, though.

Because I am not anti sex or anti woman and in fact I love women quite a bit.

Everyone judges. they just wont admit it here or are not being realistic as to what number would cause judgment.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think that many men would feel insecure and apprehensive if their girlfriend had sex with 30 or more men before them. No doubt, many such men would not likely marry a woman that had sex with more than 30 men. Many men think women are sluts and permanently damaged and worthless if they've had more than 10 men, let alone 30 or more.

It is entirely possible that a man could feel literal disgust at a woman who has had 30+ partners.

That is not being insecure - that is being smart.

Disgust? Why, though? Wouldn't a man be overjoyed with marrying a woman that's ridden so many men? She's experienced! She's sexually "empowered" and has no hesitation to grab any man that makes her "tingle" and very comfortable in pursuing her desires to get screwed silly as much as she can! Isn't such a passionate, empowered attitude a good thing in a woman?

Blanket statements like this are not applicable to all men. I know men who would be completely comfortable with a woman who had more than 30 partners. They don't view sex as something that is dirty or something that contaminates a person's body.

The kind of disgust you are talking about is based in a view of sex as something dirty and contaminating. It's a superstition.

If you feel that way, bless your heart.

Do you think there are any QUALITY men whose opinion of a women is positively correlated to the number of sex partners she has had?

Oh honey, the thought of you sucking 50 different dicks just makes me so much more attracted to you!
Oh sweetie, I'm so glad you had those threesomes in college! can we have one now? no?
Oh kitten, it was 50 sweaty men that you stuck their dicks in your vagina? WOW that makes me feel really special!


Not a god damn one, thats how many.

Speak for yourself.

You are clearly fairly sexually and socially inexperienced or you would know more quality men who don't care.

I'm sorry for your ignorance. There isn't much help for it, though.

Nice try.

But no.

There is not a single person on the planet who can make this argument with a straight face:

ALL OTHER THINGS EQUAL: I chose the higher partner number over the lower

Impossible. not going to happen. all other things equal like hotness, sex quality, self confidence, self image, all that

Well, all other things are never equal, because in reality, we are always talking about two different people, but to save you the trouble of posting "THAT'S NOT THE QUESTION YOU MUST ANSWER ONLY AND EXACTLY THE QUESTION I POSE!!!!!!!" here you go: I would rather be with someone who has slept with more people. I like to know that they know what they're doing in bed, and, if I'm interested in a long-term, monogamous relationship, I want to increase the odds that they won't see the need to wander for novelty's sake.

and what is the point of diminishing returns for that extra experience and "stability" ?

is it 5? 10? 15? 25? 50? 100? at what point does it begin to manifest negative attributes rather than positive ones?


this is real crux of the matter. many posters saying higher is better! but no, higher is not better because we can all safely say that 10,000 is not better than 1. so if there is in fact a point of diminishing returns - what is it for you?

I personally slept with people until I met the person that I married. And then I stopped sleeping with anyone but him.

That's not a number that's a life event. My advice to a daughter would be to sleep with whoever you want and don't worry about a number. It's not a numbers game.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why do people want to be free to act with judgment from others?

You can do whatever you want, but you're going to be judged for it.

Your potential future partners will judge you for it.

Turn this around. Why do you want to be free to judge women on the number of sexual partners they have without being labeled a misogynstic, anti-sex, prick/bitch?

Because you do. Because you want to think of yourself as a good person. Because you want others to think of you as a good person, or at least, leave you alone.

Human nature.

You don't seem to understand it, though.

Because I am not anti sex or anti woman and in fact I love women quite a bit.

Everyone judges. they just wont admit it here or are not being realistic as to what number would cause judgment.

Saying that you are not anti-sex or anti-woman doesn't make it so. What you've said here clearly demonstrates that you are anti-sex and anti-woman.

You are a horrible person.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think that many men would feel insecure and apprehensive if their girlfriend had sex with 30 or more men before them. No doubt, many such men would not likely marry a woman that had sex with more than 30 men. Many men think women are sluts and permanently damaged and worthless if they've had more than 10 men, let alone 30 or more.

It is entirely possible that a man could feel literal disgust at a woman who has had 30+ partners.

That is not being insecure - that is being smart.

Disgust? Why, though? Wouldn't a man be overjoyed with marrying a woman that's ridden so many men? She's experienced! She's sexually "empowered" and has no hesitation to grab any man that makes her "tingle" and very comfortable in pursuing her desires to get screwed silly as much as she can! Isn't such a passionate, empowered attitude a good thing in a woman?

Blanket statements like this are not applicable to all men. I know men who would be completely comfortable with a woman who had more than 30 partners. They don't view sex as something that is dirty or something that contaminates a person's body.

The kind of disgust you are talking about is based in a view of sex as something dirty and contaminating. It's a superstition.

If you feel that way, bless your heart.

Do you think there are any QUALITY men whose opinion of a women is positively correlated to the number of sex partners she has had?

Oh honey, the thought of you sucking 50 different dicks just makes me so much more attracted to you!
Oh sweetie, I'm so glad you had those threesomes in college! can we have one now? no?
Oh kitten, it was 50 sweaty men that you stuck their dicks in your vagina? WOW that makes me feel really special!


Not a god damn one, thats how many.

Speak for yourself.

You are clearly fairly sexually and socially inexperienced or you would know more quality men who don't care.

I'm sorry for your ignorance. There isn't much help for it, though.

Nice try.

But no.

There is not a single person on the planet who can make this argument with a straight face:

ALL OTHER THINGS EQUAL: I chose the higher partner number over the lower

Impossible. not going to happen. all other things equal like hotness, sex quality, self confidence, self image, all that

Well, all other things are never equal, because in reality, we are always talking about two different people, but to save you the trouble of posting "THAT'S NOT THE QUESTION YOU MUST ANSWER ONLY AND EXACTLY THE QUESTION I POSE!!!!!!!" here you go: I would rather be with someone who has slept with more people. I like to know that they know what they're doing in bed, and, if I'm interested in a long-term, monogamous relationship, I want to increase the odds that they won't see the need to wander for novelty's sake.

and what is the point of diminishing returns for that extra experience and "stability" ?

is it 5? 10? 15? 25? 50? 100? at what point does it begin to manifest negative attributes rather than positive ones?


this is real crux of the matter. many posters saying higher is better! but no, higher is not better because we can all safely say that 10,000 is not better than 1. so if there is in fact a point of diminishing returns - what is it for you?

<shrug> I don't know. It's a ridiculous question, because (despite your repeated, sustained, frankly obsessive posts attempting to dispute this) there are too many unknowns that are directly and significantly relevant. For example, the character of the person, the circumstances under which they live their life, our chemistry, the type of the relationship we are seeking with each other, the nuances of the relationships, etc.

When you don't think that having sex is inherently bad or dirty, then the number becomes irrelevant. I know that's not what you want to hear, but it's true.