I want to get away from friend groups/communities with this specific type of woman: where to go?

[Anonymous]

Spend some more time doing free stuff. Those types love spending money. Register you and your kid for cheap or free parks and rec classes, workshops at the library. See what the YMCA is offering. Take up disc golf. Dine at chain restaurants like an Applebees or Chili’s - these can be a lot of fun.

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Anonymous wrote:NP. Actually it completely does. As evidenced by the amount of work you put into copying OP’s post, complete with overly familiar, not funny references (stage 5 clinger, SWF).

Your post isn’t clever and the OP does describe you. You were triggered for this reason.

LOL, wasn’t hard to copy and paste. I did add paragraph breaks because OP “who works in comms” doesn’t know how to use them. The only thing difficult about copying her writing style was that I would never be so long-winded.

So if you don't feel personally attacked by this thread topic, you are spending your Saturday posting extensively in this thread because... why?

No one would get this invested in this topic if their actual response to the OP was "huh, I have never encountered that, how strange." You are responding defensively.

And why shouldn’t I defend the women OP is trying to ridicule or diminish? Sure, I’m standing up for women whose crime is seemingly to exist, and be more popular, essential, successful and relevant than OP.

I thought your claim is that such women don't exist.

And why would anyone "popular, essential, successful, and relevant" need to be defended in a weekend thread on DCUM? The woman you describe would be 100% fine without your intervention.

They’re human, too, and don’t deserve to be shat upon just because OP feels insecure, except when she’s an anonymous keyboard warrior. Because it’s gross that she probably smiles to their face and then spews this jealous, bitter poison.

You were worried for successful, popular women who might stumble upon this thread and apparently take offense, so you thought you should write a screed making fun of people for being fat or friendless to defend them?

You do know the popular girl is not going to befriend you because you stuck up for a hypothetical version of her on some dumb anonymous message board? Right?

You do know that all the women you are so transparently jealous of and resentful of aren’t going to become miserable, bitter shrews like you just because you throw anonymous hate their way? Right?

Of course they won't. It won't impact those women in any way. Some people who struggle with this personality type blew off some steam. The only person melting down here is you, for some reason.

You can obviously aren't a super successful, confident, capable person, or you wouldn't be on this thread throwing a fit. Yet you claim to hate those of us who are jealous of and resent such women. I honestly don't get what your deal is.

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Anonymous wrote:NP. Actually it completely does. As evidenced by the amount of work you put into copying OP’s post, complete with overly familiar, not funny references (stage 5 clinger, SWF).

Your post isn’t clever and the OP does describe you. You were triggered for this reason.

LOL, wasn’t hard to copy and paste. I did add paragraph breaks because OP “who works in comms” doesn’t know how to use them. The only thing difficult about copying her writing style was that I would never be so long-winded.

So if you don't feel personally attacked by this thread topic, you are spending your Saturday posting extensively in this thread because... why?

No one would get this invested in this topic if their actual response to the OP was "huh, I have never encountered that, how strange." You are responding defensively.

And why shouldn’t I defend the women OP is trying to ridicule or diminish? Sure, I’m standing up for women whose crime is seemingly to exist, and be more popular, essential, successful and relevant than OP.

I thought your claim is that such women don't exist.

And why would anyone "popular, essential, successful, and relevant" need to be defended in a weekend thread on DCUM? The woman you describe would be 100% fine without your intervention.

They’re human, too, and don’t deserve to be shat upon just because OP feels insecure, except when she’s an anonymous keyboard warrior. Because it’s gross that she probably smiles to their face and then spews this jealous, bitter poison.

You were worried for successful, popular women who might stumble upon this thread and apparently take offense, so you thought you should write a screed making fun of people for being fat or friendless to defend them?

You do know the popular girl is not going to befriend you because you stuck up for a hypothetical version of her on some dumb anonymous message board? Right?

You do know that all the women you are so transparently jealous of and resentful of aren’t going to become miserable, bitter shrews like you just because you throw anonymous hate their way? Right?

Of course they won't. It won't impact those women in any way. Some people who struggle with this personality type blew off some steam. The only person melting down here is you, for some reason.

You can obviously aren't a super successful, confident, capable person, or you wouldn't be on this thread throwing a fit. Yet you claim to hate those of us who are jealous of and resent such women. I honestly don't get what your deal is.

I’m participating in a thread that I find interesting, same as you. I’m making counterpoints and arguments, same as you. Are you MAGA? Because the only people I know who characterize discourse they don’t like or agree with as “melting down” are MAGA types. How very interesting.

If I used all caps, or foul language, you may have a point. But no, all I’m doing is…not agreeing with you. And you’re calling that a meltdown. I fin that to be extremely amusing. That’s my “deal”: it amuses me that you can’t handle someone with a different viewpoint.

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Anonymous wrote:NP. Actually it completely does. As evidenced by the amount of work you put into copying OP’s post, complete with overly familiar, not funny references (stage 5 clinger, SWF).

Your post isn’t clever and the OP does describe you. You were triggered for this reason.

LOL, wasn’t hard to copy and paste. I did add paragraph breaks because OP “who works in comms” doesn’t know how to use them. The only thing difficult about copying her writing style was that I would never be so long-winded.

So if you don't feel personally attacked by this thread topic, you are spending your Saturday posting extensively in this thread because... why?

No one would get this invested in this topic if their actual response to the OP was "huh, I have never encountered that, how strange." You are responding defensively.

And why shouldn’t I defend the women OP is trying to ridicule or diminish? Sure, I’m standing up for women whose crime is seemingly to exist, and be more popular, essential, successful and relevant than OP.

I thought your claim is that such women don't exist.

And why would anyone "popular, essential, successful, and relevant" need to be defended in a weekend thread on DCUM? The woman you describe would be 100% fine without your intervention.

They’re human, too, and don’t deserve to be shat upon just because OP feels insecure, except when she’s an anonymous keyboard warrior. Because it’s gross that she probably smiles to their face and then spews this jealous, bitter poison.

You were worried for successful, popular women who might stumble upon this thread and apparently take offense, so you thought you should write a screed making fun of people for being fat or friendless to defend them?

You do know the popular girl is not going to befriend you because you stuck up for a hypothetical version of her on some dumb anonymous message board? Right?

You do know that all the women you are so transparently jealous of and resentful of aren’t going to become miserable, bitter shrews like you just because you throw anonymous hate their way? Right?

Of course they won't. It won't impact those women in any way. Some people who struggle with this personality type blew off some steam. The only person melting down here is you, for some reason.

You can obviously aren't a super successful, confident, capable person, or you wouldn't be on this thread throwing a fit. Yet you claim to hate those of us who are jealous of and resent such women. I honestly don't get what your deal is.

I’m participating in a thread that I find interesting, same as you. I’m making counterpoints and arguments, same as you. Are you MAGA? Because the only people I know who characterize discourse they don’t like or agree with as “melting down” are MAGA types. How very interesting.

If I used all caps, or foul language, you may have a point. But no, all I’m doing is…not agreeing with you. And you’re calling that a meltdown. I fin that to be extremely amusing. That’s my “deal”: it amuses me that you can’t handle someone with a different viewpoint.

If you are the person who wrote the lengthy parody of the OP making fun of fat people and people from dysfunctional families, yes, I think you are melting down. That was one of the meanest things I've read on this site in a while. You are punching down.

Accusing me of being MAGA because I disagree with you? That also tracks with your other behavior I'm this thread.

[Anonymous]

I have not read responses. The only place I’ve ever maybe seen what you are describing is PTA. I avoid PTA and do nothing at my kids’ school past elementary and in elementary it was only things like chaperone a field trip. I volunteer extensively with one nonprofit that one of my kids was involved with at one point but is no longer. I attend my kids events and stick to myself or talk to the parents who are my vibe which you figure out over time very easily.

My main friends are people I knew before having kids and then one mom I connected with through preschool and I met her circle. My various communities are not really kid-focused. Many people have kids so we can relate but our kids are not friends or even always same age and we did not meet or were not drawn together due to our kids. My general advice is do not center your own social world or your interactions around your kids.

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Anonymous wrote:NP. Actually it completely does. As evidenced by the amount of work you put into copying OP’s post, complete with overly familiar, not funny references (stage 5 clinger, SWF).

Your post isn’t clever and the OP does describe you. You were triggered for this reason.

LOL, wasn’t hard to copy and paste. I did add paragraph breaks because OP “who works in comms” doesn’t know how to use them. The only thing difficult about copying her writing style was that I would never be so long-winded.

So if you don't feel personally attacked by this thread topic, you are spending your Saturday posting extensively in this thread because... why?

No one would get this invested in this topic if their actual response to the OP was "huh, I have never encountered that, how strange." You are responding defensively.

And why shouldn’t I defend the women OP is trying to ridicule or diminish? Sure, I’m standing up for women whose crime is seemingly to exist, and be more popular, essential, successful and relevant than OP.

I thought your claim is that such women don't exist.

And why would anyone "popular, essential, successful, and relevant" need to be defended in a weekend thread on DCUM? The woman you describe would be 100% fine without your intervention.

They’re human, too, and don’t deserve to be shat upon just because OP feels insecure, except when she’s an anonymous keyboard warrior. Because it’s gross that she probably smiles to their face and then spews this jealous, bitter poison.

You were worried for successful, popular women who might stumble upon this thread and apparently take offense, so you thought you should write a screed making fun of people for being fat or friendless to defend them?

You do know the popular girl is not going to befriend you because you stuck up for a hypothetical version of her on some dumb anonymous message board? Right?

You do know that all the women you are so transparently jealous of and resentful of aren’t going to become miserable, bitter shrews like you just because you throw anonymous hate their way? Right?

Of course they won't. It won't impact those women in any way. Some people who struggle with this personality type blew off some steam. The only person melting down here is you, for some reason.

You can obviously aren't a super successful, confident, capable person, or you wouldn't be on this thread throwing a fit. Yet you claim to hate those of us who are jealous of and resent such women. I honestly don't get what your deal is.

I’m participating in a thread that I find interesting, same as you. I’m making counterpoints and arguments, same as you. Are you MAGA? Because the only people I know who characterize discourse they don’t like or agree with as “melting down” are MAGA types. How very interesting.

If I used all caps, or foul language, you may have a point. But no, all I’m doing is…not agreeing with you. And you’re calling that a meltdown. I fin that to be extremely amusing. That’s my “deal”: it amuses me that you can’t handle someone with a different viewpoint.

If you are the person who wrote the lengthy parody of the OP making fun of fat people and people from dysfunctional families, yes, I think you are melting down. That was one of the meanest things I've read on this site in a while. You are punching down.

Accusing me of being MAGA because I disagree with you? That also tracks with your other behavior I'm this thread.

No, I didn’t write the parody. But I think it’s very interesting that OP’s post was somehow just “venting” but any pushback on it is people being horrible.

I didn’t accuse you of being MAGA because you disagree with me. I accused you of being MAGA because those are seriously the only people I know who characterize disagreement as “melting down” and “throwing a fit.” If the shoe fits…

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Anonymous wrote:NP. Actually it completely does. As evidenced by the amount of work you put into copying OP’s post, complete with overly familiar, not funny references (stage 5 clinger, SWF).

Your post isn’t clever and the OP does describe you. You were triggered for this reason.

LOL, wasn’t hard to copy and paste. I did add paragraph breaks because OP “who works in comms” doesn’t know how to use them. The only thing difficult about copying her writing style was that I would never be so long-winded.

So if you don't feel personally attacked by this thread topic, you are spending your Saturday posting extensively in this thread because... why?

No one would get this invested in this topic if their actual response to the OP was "huh, I have never encountered that, how strange." You are responding defensively.

And why shouldn’t I defend the women OP is trying to ridicule or diminish? Sure, I’m standing up for women whose crime is seemingly to exist, and be more popular, essential, successful and relevant than OP.

I thought your claim is that such women don't exist.

And why would anyone "popular, essential, successful, and relevant" need to be defended in a weekend thread on DCUM? The woman you describe would be 100% fine without your intervention.

They’re human, too, and don’t deserve to be shat upon just because OP feels insecure, except when she’s an anonymous keyboard warrior. Because it’s gross that she probably smiles to their face and then spews this jealous, bitter poison.

You were worried for successful, popular women who might stumble upon this thread and apparently take offense, so you thought you should write a screed making fun of people for being fat or friendless to defend them?

You do know the popular girl is not going to befriend you because you stuck up for a hypothetical version of her on some dumb anonymous message board? Right?

You do know that all the women you are so transparently jealous of and resentful of aren’t going to become miserable, bitter shrews like you just because you throw anonymous hate their way? Right?

Of course they won't. It won't impact those women in any way. Some people who struggle with this personality type blew off some steam. The only person melting down here is you, for some reason.

You can obviously aren't a super successful, confident, capable person, or you wouldn't be on this thread throwing a fit. Yet you claim to hate those of us who are jealous of and resent such women. I honestly don't get what your deal is.

I’m participating in a thread that I find interesting, same as you. I’m making counterpoints and arguments, same as you. Are you MAGA? Because the only people I know who characterize discourse they don’t like or agree with as “melting down” are MAGA types. How very interesting.

If I used all caps, or foul language, you may have a point. But no, all I’m doing is…not agreeing with you. And you’re calling that a meltdown. I fin that to be extremely amusing. That’s my “deal”: it amuses me that you can’t handle someone with a different viewpoint.

If you are the person who wrote the lengthy parody of the OP making fun of fat people and people from dysfunctional families, yes, I think you are melting down. That was one of the meanest things I've read on this site in a while. You are punching down.

Accusing me of being MAGA because I disagree with you? That also tracks with your other behavior I'm this thread.

No, I didn’t write the parody. But I think it’s very interesting that OP’s post was somehow just “venting” but any pushback on it is people being horrible.

I didn’t accuse you of being MAGA because you disagree with me. I accused you of being MAGA because those are seriously the only people I know who characterize disagreement as “melting down” and “throwing a fit.” If the shoe fits…

Well I was referring specifically to that post, which yes I think is a "melt down" because it was so unkind to people whose only offense is not being super successful in life.

The MAGA accusation is ridiculous on its face. I'm not MAGA, and haven't written a single thing in this thread advocating for MAGA views, which I abhor. That feels like a rhetorical trick to try to win an argument by associating me with hateful people. Do you often try to score points by accusing someone who disagrees with you of being a hateful racist with no evidence? Seems shady.

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Anonymous wrote:NP. Actually it completely does. As evidenced by the amount of work you put into copying OP’s post, complete with overly familiar, not funny references (stage 5 clinger, SWF).

Your post isn’t clever and the OP does describe you. You were triggered for this reason.

LOL, wasn’t hard to copy and paste. I did add paragraph breaks because OP “who works in comms” doesn’t know how to use them. The only thing difficult about copying her writing style was that I would never be so long-winded.

So if you don't feel personally attacked by this thread topic, you are spending your Saturday posting extensively in this thread because... why?

No one would get this invested in this topic if their actual response to the OP was "huh, I have never encountered that, how strange." You are responding defensively.

And why shouldn’t I defend the women OP is trying to ridicule or diminish? Sure, I’m standing up for women whose crime is seemingly to exist, and be more popular, essential, successful and relevant than OP.

I thought your claim is that such women don't exist.

And why would anyone "popular, essential, successful, and relevant" need to be defended in a weekend thread on DCUM? The woman you describe would be 100% fine without your intervention.

They’re human, too, and don’t deserve to be shat upon just because OP feels insecure, except when she’s an anonymous keyboard warrior. Because it’s gross that she probably smiles to their face and then spews this jealous, bitter poison.

You were worried for successful, popular women who might stumble upon this thread and apparently take offense, so you thought you should write a screed making fun of people for being fat or friendless to defend them?

You do know the popular girl is not going to befriend you because you stuck up for a hypothetical version of her on some dumb anonymous message board? Right?

You do know that all the women you are so transparently jealous of and resentful of aren’t going to become miserable, bitter shrews like you just because you throw anonymous hate their way? Right?

Of course they won't. It won't impact those women in any way. Some people who struggle with this personality type blew off some steam. The only person melting down here is you, for some reason.

You can obviously aren't a super successful, confident, capable person, or you wouldn't be on this thread throwing a fit. Yet you claim to hate those of us who are jealous of and resent such women. I honestly don't get what your deal is.

I’m participating in a thread that I find interesting, same as you. I’m making counterpoints and arguments, same as you. Are you MAGA? Because the only people I know who characterize discourse they don’t like or agree with as “melting down” are MAGA types. How very interesting.

If I used all caps, or foul language, you may have a point. But no, all I’m doing is…not agreeing with you. And you’re calling that a meltdown. I fin that to be extremely amusing. That’s my “deal”: it amuses me that you can’t handle someone with a different viewpoint.

If you are the person who wrote the lengthy parody of the OP making fun of fat people and people from dysfunctional families, yes, I think you are melting down. That was one of the meanest things I've read on this site in a while. You are punching down.

Accusing me of being MAGA because I disagree with you? That also tracks with your other behavior I'm this thread.

No, I didn’t write the parody. But I think it’s very interesting that OP’s post was somehow just “venting” but any pushback on it is people being horrible.

I didn’t accuse you of being MAGA because you disagree with me. I accused you of being MAGA because those are seriously the only people I know who characterize disagreement as “melting down” and “throwing a fit.” If the shoe fits…

Well I was referring specifically to that post, which yes I think is a "melt down" because it was so unkind to people whose only offense is not being super successful in life.

The MAGA accusation is ridiculous on its face. I'm not MAGA, and haven't written a single thing in this thread advocating for MAGA views, which I abhor. That feels like a rhetorical trick to try to win an argument by associating me with hateful people. Do you often try to score points by accusing someone who disagrees with you of being a hateful racist with no evidence? Seems shady.

Keep dodging and deflecting. Keep avoiding taking responsibility for the fact that you accused me of “throwing a fit” and “melting down” because I disagree with you. I did not use all caps, I did not use foul language, and yet you are committed to accusing me of throwing a fit and melting down simply because I disagree with you.

A mature adult would have taken the opportunity to say, “Yes, you know, you are right; people disagreeing with me are not melting down or throwing a fit. I take your point.” You could then continue to disagree with me or address my points and arguments in a mature manner. But I don’t think you are capable of walking it back when you’ve demonstrably gotten it wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:NP. Actually it completely does. As evidenced by the amount of work you put into copying OP’s post, complete with overly familiar, not funny references (stage 5 clinger, SWF).

Your post isn’t clever and the OP does describe you. You were triggered for this reason.

LOL, wasn’t hard to copy and paste. I did add paragraph breaks because OP “who works in comms” doesn’t know how to use them. The only thing difficult about copying her writing style was that I would never be so long-winded.

So if you don't feel personally attacked by this thread topic, you are spending your Saturday posting extensively in this thread because... why?

No one would get this invested in this topic if their actual response to the OP was "huh, I have never encountered that, how strange." You are responding defensively.

And why shouldn’t I defend the women OP is trying to ridicule or diminish? Sure, I’m standing up for women whose crime is seemingly to exist, and be more popular, essential, successful and relevant than OP.

I thought your claim is that such women don't exist.

And why would anyone "popular, essential, successful, and relevant" need to be defended in a weekend thread on DCUM? The woman you describe would be 100% fine without your intervention.

They’re human, too, and don’t deserve to be shat upon just because OP feels insecure, except when she’s an anonymous keyboard warrior. Because it’s gross that she probably smiles to their face and then spews this jealous, bitter poison.

You were worried for successful, popular women who might stumble upon this thread and apparently take offense, so you thought you should write a screed making fun of people for being fat or friendless to defend them?

You do know the popular girl is not going to befriend you because you stuck up for a hypothetical version of her on some dumb anonymous message board? Right?

You do know that all the women you are so transparently jealous of and resentful of aren’t going to become miserable, bitter shrews like you just because you throw anonymous hate their way? Right?

Of course they won't. It won't impact those women in any way. Some people who struggle with this personality type blew off some steam. The only person melting down here is you, for some reason.

You can obviously aren't a super successful, confident, capable person, or you wouldn't be on this thread throwing a fit. Yet you claim to hate those of us who are jealous of and resent such women. I honestly don't get what your deal is.

I’m participating in a thread that I find interesting, same as you. I’m making counterpoints and arguments, same as you. Are you MAGA? Because the only people I know who characterize discourse they don’t like or agree with as “melting down” are MAGA types. How very interesting.

If I used all caps, or foul language, you may have a point. But no, all I’m doing is…not agreeing with you. And you’re calling that a meltdown. I fin that to be extremely amusing. That’s my “deal”: it amuses me that you can’t handle someone with a different viewpoint.

If you are the person who wrote the lengthy parody of the OP making fun of fat people and people from dysfunctional families, yes, I think you are melting down. That was one of the meanest things I've read on this site in a while. You are punching down.

Accusing me of being MAGA because I disagree with you? That also tracks with your other behavior I'm this thread.

No, I didn’t write the parody. But I think it’s very interesting that OP’s post was somehow just “venting” but any pushback on it is people being horrible.

I didn’t accuse you of being MAGA because you disagree with me. I accused you of being MAGA because those are seriously the only people I know who characterize disagreement as “melting down” and “throwing a fit.” If the shoe fits…

MAGA aren’t the only people who deflect. Any reasonable person would agree that that evil, vile response to the OP was a meltdown…I am trying to unsee it. It’s interesting that you didn’t write the parody but you seem to defend it. I hope the parody poster (PP) doesn’t have children, can you imagine sending your DC to play in a household with someone or multiple people that think like this and model this mentality with their own children.
? Talk about not knowing what goes on behind closed doors. Is there a fiery inferno burning in PP’s basement? OMG

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I've lived here most of my adult life and moved here in 1999. I don't know any of these women. I don't associate with them. Just opt out. It is not hard.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel you, OP. Our immediate neighborhood has one of these (you nailed the description) and it makes me want to move. I haven’t found too many people to be friends with, or they generally move away.

OP here. Our neighborhood is really diverse so it kind of amazes me how often I wind up in proximity to women like this but it pretty much always happens. Right now my elementary-age kid attends a school (local public) where two such women are engaged in a weird battle for control of the PTA and one of them keeps trying to adopt me to her side even though I'm not super into the PTA and it's so uncomfortable and weird. I am getting tired of just always plastering a smile on my face at school events and then trying to duck out early to avoid running into either of them or winding up in a conversation with another parent who wants to discuss this dumb battle. I just don't care. But it also means it's hard to make friends at the school because so much revolves around these women who suck all the air out of every room.

You don't have to befriend moms at your kids' school. This is an easy problem to solve. Be friendly but don't be friends. You have to change the tone you are giving off.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t actually know anyone like that. But we’re kind of middle class.

OP here. We are not "kind of" middle class. We are middle class. We own a tiny home we bought for under 500k when rates were really low and cannot afford to fix it up or to move. We have extremely normal jobs with no power or prestige. Public schools, modest backgrounds. I work in a field with a lot of jobs in the DC area due to the federal government and all the universities, which is how we wound up here, but it's not a glamorous field at all.

My perception is that a lot of the people I encounter like this only make slightly more than we do, but either have a spouse making a lot or have money from family. We don't live in NW DC or one of the pricy suburbs. I assume this issue is even worse in those communities, but I'll never find out because we could never afford to live there, nor will we ever send our kids to any of these elite privates (or any private school) or get them involved in any super expensive EC. But even in our very middle class existence, I encounter people like this a lot.

This kind of shocks me. Your post sounds like you are upper middle class. I am the poster who has lived here since 1999. My kids are elementary and middle school. I am divorced. My ex's (our former) home is worth 1.3 and mine is worth a little over $1 million. Ex and I independently are "the millionaries next door" (not flashy). I have never met any of these women that you describe, but honestly my life is only work and kids and I work more than the average person. Be polite and don't be friends. Focus on your kids (and/or work); there is no reason to engage with these types of people.

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Anonymous wrote:NP. Actually it completely does. As evidenced by the amount of work you put into copying OP’s post, complete with overly familiar, not funny references (stage 5 clinger, SWF).

Your post isn’t clever and the OP does describe you. You were triggered for this reason.

LOL, wasn’t hard to copy and paste. I did add paragraph breaks because OP “who works in comms” doesn’t know how to use them. The only thing difficult about copying her writing style was that I would never be so long-winded.

So if you don't feel personally attacked by this thread topic, you are spending your Saturday posting extensively in this thread because... why?

No one would get this invested in this topic if their actual response to the OP was "huh, I have never encountered that, how strange." You are responding defensively.

And why shouldn’t I defend the women OP is trying to ridicule or diminish? Sure, I’m standing up for women whose crime is seemingly to exist, and be more popular, essential, successful and relevant than OP.

I thought your claim is that such women don't exist.

And why would anyone "popular, essential, successful, and relevant" need to be defended in a weekend thread on DCUM? The woman you describe would be 100% fine without your intervention.

They’re human, too, and don’t deserve to be shat upon just because OP feels insecure, except when she’s an anonymous keyboard warrior. Because it’s gross that she probably smiles to their face and then spews this jealous, bitter poison.

You were worried for successful, popular women who might stumble upon this thread and apparently take offense, so you thought you should write a screed making fun of people for being fat or friendless to defend them?

You do know the popular girl is not going to befriend you because you stuck up for a hypothetical version of her on some dumb anonymous message board? Right?

You do know that all the women you are so transparently jealous of and resentful of aren’t going to become miserable, bitter shrews like you just because you throw anonymous hate their way? Right?

Of course they won't. It won't impact those women in any way. Some people who struggle with this personality type blew off some steam. The only person melting down here is you, for some reason.

You can obviously aren't a super successful, confident, capable person, or you wouldn't be on this thread throwing a fit. Yet you claim to hate those of us who are jealous of and resent such women. I honestly don't get what your deal is.

I’m participating in a thread that I find interesting, same as you. I’m making counterpoints and arguments, same as you. Are you MAGA? Because the only people I know who characterize discourse they don’t like or agree with as “melting down” are MAGA types. How very interesting.

If I used all caps, or foul language, you may have a point. But no, all I’m doing is…not agreeing with you. And you’re calling that a meltdown. I fin that to be extremely amusing. That’s my “deal”: it amuses me that you can’t handle someone with a different viewpoint.

If you are the person who wrote the lengthy parody of the OP making fun of fat people and people from dysfunctional families, yes, I think you are melting down. That was one of the meanest things I've read on this site in a while. You are punching down.

Accusing me of being MAGA because I disagree with you? That also tracks with your other behavior I'm this thread.

No, I didn’t write the parody. But I think it’s very interesting that OP’s post was somehow just “venting” but any pushback on it is people being horrible.

I didn’t accuse you of being MAGA because you disagree with me. I accused you of being MAGA because those are seriously the only people I know who characterize disagreement as “melting down” and “throwing a fit.” If the shoe fits…

MAGA aren’t the only people who deflect. Any reasonable person would agree that that evil, vile response to the OP was a meltdown…I am trying to unsee it. It’s interesting that you didn’t write the parody but you seem to defend it. I hope the parody poster (PP) doesn’t have children, can you imagine sending your DC to play in a household with someone or multiple people that think like this and model this mentality with their own children.
? Talk about not knowing what goes on behind closed doors. Is there a fiery inferno burning in PP’s basement? OMG

The parody was word for word, point for point, shedding light on how nasty it is when people like OP treat women as a monolith or a “type” rather than individuals, make a stereotype of them, fail to see them as individuals, and go online to trash them.

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Anonymous wrote:NP. Actually it completely does. As evidenced by the amount of work you put into copying OP’s post, complete with overly familiar, not funny references (stage 5 clinger, SWF).

Your post isn’t clever and the OP does describe you. You were triggered for this reason.

LOL, wasn’t hard to copy and paste. I did add paragraph breaks because OP “who works in comms” doesn’t know how to use them. The only thing difficult about copying her writing style was that I would never be so long-winded.

So if you don't feel personally attacked by this thread topic, you are spending your Saturday posting extensively in this thread because... why?

No one would get this invested in this topic if their actual response to the OP was "huh, I have never encountered that, how strange." You are responding defensively.

And why shouldn’t I defend the women OP is trying to ridicule or diminish? Sure, I’m standing up for women whose crime is seemingly to exist, and be more popular, essential, successful and relevant than OP.

I thought your claim is that such women don't exist.

And why would anyone "popular, essential, successful, and relevant" need to be defended in a weekend thread on DCUM? The woman you describe would be 100% fine without your intervention.

They’re human, too, and don’t deserve to be shat upon just because OP feels insecure, except when she’s an anonymous keyboard warrior. Because it’s gross that she probably smiles to their face and then spews this jealous, bitter poison.

You were worried for successful, popular women who might stumble upon this thread and apparently take offense, so you thought you should write a screed making fun of people for being fat or friendless to defend them?

You do know the popular girl is not going to befriend you because you stuck up for a hypothetical version of her on some dumb anonymous message board? Right?

You do know that all the women you are so transparently jealous of and resentful of aren’t going to become miserable, bitter shrews like you just because you throw anonymous hate their way? Right?

Of course they won't. It won't impact those women in any way. Some people who struggle with this personality type blew off some steam. The only person melting down here is you, for some reason.

You can obviously aren't a super successful, confident, capable person, or you wouldn't be on this thread throwing a fit. Yet you claim to hate those of us who are jealous of and resent such women. I honestly don't get what your deal is.

I’m participating in a thread that I find interesting, same as you. I’m making counterpoints and arguments, same as you. Are you MAGA? Because the only people I know who characterize discourse they don’t like or agree with as “melting down” are MAGA types. How very interesting.

If I used all caps, or foul language, you may have a point. But no, all I’m doing is…not agreeing with you. And you’re calling that a meltdown. I fin that to be extremely amusing. That’s my “deal”: it amuses me that you can’t handle someone with a different viewpoint.

If you are the person who wrote the lengthy parody of the OP making fun of fat people and people from dysfunctional families, yes, I think you are melting down. That was one of the meanest things I've read on this site in a while. You are punching down.

Accusing me of being MAGA because I disagree with you? That also tracks with your other behavior I'm this thread.

No, I didn’t write the parody. But I think it’s very interesting that OP’s post was somehow just “venting” but any pushback on it is people being horrible.

I didn’t accuse you of being MAGA because you disagree with me. I accused you of being MAGA because those are seriously the only people I know who characterize disagreement as “melting down” and “throwing a fit.” If the shoe fits…

MAGA aren’t the only people who deflect. Any reasonable person would agree that that evil, vile response to the OP was a meltdown…I am trying to unsee it. It’s interesting that you didn’t write the parody but you seem to defend it. I hope the parody poster (PP) doesn’t have children, can you imagine sending your DC to play in a household with someone or multiple people that think like this and model this mentality with their own children.
? Talk about not knowing what goes on behind closed doors. Is there a fiery inferno burning in PP’s basement? OMG

So you aren’t going to address the fact that you accused someone who disagreed with you as throwing a fit and melting down, when they used neither all caps nor foul language, they simply don’t agree with you. Got it. You don’t apologize or acknowledge when you were wrong. Noted.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel you, OP. Our immediate neighborhood has one of these (you nailed the description) and it makes me want to move. I haven’t found too many people to be friends with, or they generally move away.

OP here. Our neighborhood is really diverse so it kind of amazes me how often I wind up in proximity to women like this but it pretty much always happens. Right now my elementary-age kid attends a school (local public) where two such women are engaged in a weird battle for control of the PTA and one of them keeps trying to adopt me to her side even though I'm not super into the PTA and it's so uncomfortable and weird. I am getting tired of just always plastering a smile on my face at school events and then trying to duck out early to avoid running into either of them or winding up in a conversation with another parent who wants to discuss this dumb battle. I just don't care. But it also means it's hard to make friends at the school because so much revolves around these women who suck all the air out of every room.

You don't have to befriend moms at your kids' school. This is an easy problem to solve. Be friendly but don't be friends. You have to change the tone you are giving off.

Super easy to not join the pta. I am on the pta and most people decline.

I joined because my very nice friend was president last year. This year the president is like one of the moms OP is describing. I just see her at pta meetings and some birthday parties and don’t hang out socially as adults.