Why are some parents so cold and unfriendly?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not particularly friendly because I’ve been burned too many times by social climbers who want to use me for either connections or something I can provide them. I’m cautious now.
this an actual valid reason to be cold and unfriendly, the delulu climbers who want to act brand new IRL, but are covered in Old Bay, phishing and spamming school directories, are the ones who have a right to stop typing. Anything hypocritical thing you type is being used against you in these forum pages and it’s real cray cray.


Can we take a quick time out so someone can explain the covered in old bay thing?
Hmmm, not sure on this one…I know that it’s a spice commonly used to season crabs. So maybe PP is referencing crab-like behaviors and movements. When you think about it crabs are quite versatile crustaceans that do many things that begin with c. They crawl, compete, compare, calculate, copy…and there is something else they do…anyone?…you guessed it…climb! They are expert climbers, you are correct!
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Anonymous wrote:I’m not particularly friendly because I’ve been burned too many times by social climbers who want to use me for either connections or something I can provide them. I’m cautious now.
this an actual valid reason to be cold and unfriendly, the delulu climbers who want to act brand new IRL, but are covered in Old Bay, phishing and spamming school directories, are the ones who have a right to stop typing. Anything hypocritical thing you type is being used against you in these forum pages and it’s real cray cray.


Can we take a quick time out so someone can explain the covered in old bay thing?
Hmmm, not sure on this one…I know that it’s a spice commonly used to season crabs. So maybe PP is referencing crab-like behaviors and movements. When you think about it crabs are quite versatile crustaceans that do many things that begin with c. They crawl, compete, compare, calculate, copy…and there is something else they do…anyone?…you guessed it…climb! They are expert climbers, you are correct!


I think it's just a dig at people from Maryland.
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Anonymous wrote:I just don't get it. This post is not about wanting people to invite me or my kids places (truly unnecessary, not the point) or wanting other people's kids to be friends with my kids. I'm not trying to force anyone to do anything.

But so often when I'm at school events or activities, and forced into situation with other parents, I will turn to the person next to me and just introduce myself, ask about their kid, whatever, and they are so antisocial. Like one word answers, look uncomfortable or annoyed. I will read the room and drop it or move away, but I think it's weird. Even if I'm had a stressful day at work or am just in a bad mood, I will smile and be pleasant in those situations because, hey, we're all in the same boat to some degree and I just think being pleasant to fellow parents is part of the gig. I also just find it useful to be able to put parent faces/names with their kids, and to get to know the other families enough to be cordial during pick up/drop off or whatever.

If this is you, why can't you just be pleasant for a few moments? Why the cold shoulder?


Go to events with your spouse, then you won’t need to bug random parents. If no spouse, put a podcast on your AirPods.


That's already what everyone is doing, head buried in a phone. No tips needed on that front. This thread is about the lingering few who want to keep the last bit of social fabric going.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m not particularly friendly because I’ve been burned too many times by social climbers who want to use me for either connections or something I can provide them. I’m cautious now.
this an actual valid reason to be cold and unfriendly, the delulu climbers who want to act brand new IRL, but are covered in Old Bay, phishing and spamming school directories, are the ones who have a right to stop typing. Anything hypocritical thing you type is being used against you in these forum pages and it’s real cray cray.


Can we take a quick time out so someone can explain the covered in old bay thing?
Hmmm, not sure on this one…I know that it’s a spice commonly used to season crabs. So maybe PP is referencing crab-like behaviors and movements. When you think about it crabs are quite versatile crustaceans that do many things that begin with c. They crawl, compete, compare, calculate, copy…and there is something else they do…anyone?…you guessed it…climb! They are expert climbers, you are correct!


I think it's just a dig at people from Maryland.


That PP is so odd. They hate Marylanders but live there. They hate small talk but work in communications. They think everyone is sliding up to them to gain an advantage but they don't have any advantages to confer. None of it makes any sense.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m not particularly friendly because I’ve been burned too many times by social climbers who want to use me for either connections or something I can provide them. I’m cautious now.
this an actual valid reason to be cold and unfriendly, the delulu climbers who want to act brand new IRL, but are covered in Old Bay, phishing and spamming school directories, are the ones who have a right to stop typing. Anything hypocritical thing you type is being used against you in these forum pages and it’s real cray cray.


Can we take a quick time out so someone can explain the covered in old bay thing?
Hmmm, not sure on this one…I know that it’s a spice commonly used to season crabs. So maybe PP is referencing crab-like behaviors and movements. When you think about it crabs are quite versatile crustaceans that do many things that begin with c. They crawl, compete, compare, calculate, copy…and there is something else they do…anyone?…you guessed it…climb! They are expert climbers, you are correct!


I think it's just a dig at people from Maryland.
that’s an interesting theory. Where in MD?
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People, parents or not, come in all varieties of personalities.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m not particularly friendly because I’ve been burned too many times by social climbers who want to use me for either connections or something I can provide them. I’m cautious now.
this an actual valid reason to be cold and unfriendly, the delulu climbers who want to act brand new IRL, but are covered in Old Bay, phishing and spamming school directories, are the ones who have a right to stop typing. Anything hypocritical thing you type is being used against you in these forum pages and it’s real cray cray.


Can we take a quick time out so someone can explain the covered in old bay thing?
Hmmm, not sure on this one…I know that it’s a spice commonly used to season crabs. So maybe PP is referencing crab-like behaviors and movements. When you think about it crabs are quite versatile crustaceans that do many things that begin with c. They crawl, compete, compare, calculate, copy…and there is something else they do…anyone?…you guessed it…climb! They are expert climbers, you are correct!


I think it's just a dig at people from Maryland.


That PP is so odd. They hate Marylanders but live there. They hate small talk but work in communications. They think everyone is sliding up to them to gain an advantage but they don't have any advantages to confer. None of it makes any sense.
ooop, there’s another c….communications…we’re constructing a real tongue twister here! The winner gets to create a custom-made sentence. Keep it cute!
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Anonymous wrote:So we are attending events as mutes in order to people watch and eavesdrop on other people’s interactions…is that what we are doing now? I get going to a school event to support your kids and be involved with what is going on at the school. But I don’t understand the angst directed at people who want to stay on and socialize and casually converse with the “community” that they may one day need to rely on…it’s not just other parents…it’s the teachers and staff. That’s the bizarre tone of the trolls regurgitating the same weak argument throughout this thread.


Not having any mutuals (read social "ins") at your kid's school sets off red flags. A lot of parents are feds, trained to be extremely wary around randoms trying to chat. Bottom line, we don't know you and we're frankly not interested in knowing you. That's not a me/us problem, it's a you problem for being offended. This thread is full of deeply presumptuous people with a lack of self awareness. Stop trying to force yourself on others. We just want to be left alone and associate with people we know and have vetted.


DP. This might be one of the weirdest threads I’ve ever seen on DCUM and that is saying something. And you might be the weirdest person on it. What’s up with your obsession with vetting? If you are this paranoid because of your line of work, go get some help. You’re a net negative in the community. I would bet money that whoever you think your friends are probably talk badly about you behind your back.


Driving the point home that from their POV you are a random ass stranger. You crazies have such audacity to believe everyone you seek to orbit MUST give you their undivided attention because your kid is randomly 1 of 500 or 1 or 2,000 at the same school. We. Don’t. Know. You.

“Seeing someone” a bunch of times somewhere doesn’t make you likely friends. I would see the same people on the Metro often twice a day. Outside of a random non-verbal nod, I never had the impulse to say a single word to them.

Taking it personal and whining in DCUM threads about this issue just proves there’s something off about you and their snap judgment of you is accurate. You warrant the icing. Sorry you’re middle aged with so few friends. The rest of us don’t have that problem and aren’t desperate for more.


If you don’t know how to make small talk with acquaintances without thinking they are “orbiting” you, you’re either neurodiverse or you were raised poorly.


Just being honest. You want this thread to be an echo chamber full of desperate social outcasts blaming everyone else. Just giving you the other side of the coin. Bottom line, they’re not interested. Strangers don’t owe you their time, kindness, chit-chat…or anything for that matter.


“Hey, how’re you doing?”

“I DON’T OWE YOU ANYTHING!!!!”



For people so sure of their social skills they don't seem very good at sizing people up, reading body language, and identifying the social and friendly people who want to chat. It's really not that hard but some people are coming across like annoying puppies who just go up to everyone oblivious to the cues and body language their targets are putting out.


The irony here is that I actually do not care enough about you individually to put that much effort into figuring out if I'm "allowed" to say benign things like "how's it going?" or "oh, which kid is yours?" The world does not revolve around you and I do not care if you are "put out" by a very minimal level of human interaction.

I don't even like interacting with other parents much either but view it as part of the gig. Get over yourself.


Why is it your business who my kid is? Please spare us that you plan to ask two innocuous questions total, period. No. You want to segue into what do you do, where do you all live, you want to try to name drop. You’re desperate for social interaction and want to worm your and your kid’s way into an association with higher status families.

You’re pissed you’re sized up as an interloper and cut off before you can launch.

You social climbers obviously do care, which is why this thread is a hundred pages of you whining about not being able to break into a parent clique at your kid’s school.


Np to the back and forth here. (Actually not true. I asked about the old bay dig above. Still curious about that one. Anyhoo)

You sound insane. Literally not of sound of mind. This is what goes through your head when someone says hi to you?? That is amazing. And hilarious. It’s called exchanging pleasantries. It’s just being a polite human being.

I mean, don’t stop. You are very entertaining and this thread is quickly becoming a new classic
*chef’s kiss*


+1. I hadn't been reading this thread and that comment was the first thing I saw and wow. Completely insane. I can't imagine going through life thinking people asking which kid is there is social climbing. It's just a way to pass the time.


It also assumes a social hierarchy, and that the person being asked "which one is your kid?" is higher up said hierarchy. This just sounds like hierarchy.

One or two posters on here seem to to think the average parent is sitting around plotting ways to gain access to the "cool kids" club at their kids' elementary school. When in reality most people are just trying to figure out what to make for dinner, looking for handyman recommendations, or thinking about something annoying happening at work. I have neither the energy nor the interest to try and effect some kind of social coup among a group of people I am only loosely associated with via my kids.
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Anonymous wrote:So we are attending events as mutes in order to people watch and eavesdrop on other people’s interactions…is that what we are doing now? I get going to a school event to support your kids and be involved with what is going on at the school. But I don’t understand the angst directed at people who want to stay on and socialize and casually converse with the “community” that they may one day need to rely on…it’s not just other parents…it’s the teachers and staff. That’s the bizarre tone of the trolls regurgitating the same weak argument throughout this thread.


Not having any mutuals (read social "ins") at your kid's school sets off red flags. A lot of parents are feds, trained to be extremely wary around randoms trying to chat. Bottom line, we don't know you and we're frankly not interested in knowing you. That's not a me/us problem, it's a you problem for being offended. This thread is full of deeply presumptuous people with a lack of self awareness. Stop trying to force yourself on others. We just want to be left alone and associate with people we know and have vetted.


DP. This might be one of the weirdest threads I’ve ever seen on DCUM and that is saying something. And you might be the weirdest person on it. What’s up with your obsession with vetting? If you are this paranoid because of your line of work, go get some help. You’re a net negative in the community. I would bet money that whoever you think your friends are probably talk badly about you behind your back.


Driving the point home that from their POV you are a random ass stranger. You crazies have such audacity to believe everyone you seek to orbit MUST give you their undivided attention because your kid is randomly 1 of 500 or 1 or 2,000 at the same school. We. Don’t. Know. You.

“Seeing someone” a bunch of times somewhere doesn’t make you likely friends. I would see the same people on the Metro often twice a day. Outside of a random non-verbal nod, I never had the impulse to say a single word to them.

Taking it personal and whining in DCUM threads about this issue just proves there’s something off about you and their snap judgment of you is accurate. You warrant the icing. Sorry you’re middle aged with so few friends. The rest of us don’t have that problem and aren’t desperate for more.


If you don’t know how to make small talk with acquaintances without thinking they are “orbiting” you, you’re either neurodiverse or you were raised poorly.


Just being honest. You want this thread to be an echo chamber full of desperate social outcasts blaming everyone else. Just giving you the other side of the coin. Bottom line, they’re not interested. Strangers don’t owe you their time, kindness, chit-chat…or anything for that matter.


“Hey, how’re you doing?”

“I DON’T OWE YOU ANYTHING!!!!”



For people so sure of their social skills they don't seem very good at sizing people up, reading body language, and identifying the social and friendly people who want to chat. It's really not that hard but some people are coming across like annoying puppies who just go up to everyone oblivious to the cues and body language their targets are putting out.


The irony here is that I actually do not care enough about you individually to put that much effort into figuring out if I'm "allowed" to say benign things like "how's it going?" or "oh, which kid is yours?" The world does not revolve around you and I do not care if you are "put out" by a very minimal level of human interaction.

I don't even like interacting with other parents much either but view it as part of the gig. Get over yourself.


Why is it your business who my kid is? Please spare us that you plan to ask two innocuous questions total, period. No. You want to segue into what do you do, where do you all live, you want to try to name drop. You’re desperate for social interaction and want to worm your and your kid’s way into an association with higher status families.

You’re pissed you’re sized up as an interloper and cut off before you can launch.

You social climbers obviously do care, which is why this thread is a hundred pages of you whining about not being able to break into a parent clique at your kid’s school.


Np to the back and forth here. (Actually not true. I asked about the old bay dig above. Still curious about that one. Anyhoo)

You sound insane. Literally not of sound of mind. This is what goes through your head when someone says hi to you?? That is amazing. And hilarious. It’s called exchanging pleasantries. It’s just being a polite human being.

I mean, don’t stop. You are very entertaining and this thread is quickly becoming a new classic
*chef’s kiss*


+1. I hadn't been reading this thread and that comment was the first thing I saw and wow. Completely insane. I can't imagine going through life thinking people asking which kid is there is social climbing. It's just a way to pass the time.


It also assumes a social hierarchy, and that the person being asked "which one is your kid?" is higher up said hierarchy. This just sounds like hierarchy.

One or two posters on here seem to to think the average parent is sitting around plotting ways to gain access to the "cool kids" club at their kids' elementary school. When in reality most people are just trying to figure out what to make for dinner, looking for handyman recommendations, or thinking about something annoying happening at work. I have neither the energy nor the interest to try and effect some kind of social coup among a group of people I am only loosely associated with via my kids.


Mean to type "This just sounds like narcissism" instead of repeating the word hierarchy. My bad.
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Anonymous wrote:So we are attending events as mutes in order to people watch and eavesdrop on other people’s interactions…is that what we are doing now? I get going to a school event to support your kids and be involved with what is going on at the school. But I don’t understand the angst directed at people who want to stay on and socialize and casually converse with the “community” that they may one day need to rely on…it’s not just other parents…it’s the teachers and staff. That’s the bizarre tone of the trolls regurgitating the same weak argument throughout this thread.


Not having any mutuals (read social "ins") at your kid's school sets off red flags. A lot of parents are feds, trained to be extremely wary around randoms trying to chat. Bottom line, we don't know you and we're frankly not interested in knowing you. That's not a me/us problem, it's a you problem for being offended. This thread is full of deeply presumptuous people with a lack of self awareness. Stop trying to force yourself on others. We just want to be left alone and associate with people we know and have vetted.


DP. This might be one of the weirdest threads I’ve ever seen on DCUM and that is saying something. And you might be the weirdest person on it. What’s up with your obsession with vetting? If you are this paranoid because of your line of work, go get some help. You’re a net negative in the community. I would bet money that whoever you think your friends are probably talk badly about you behind your back.


Driving the point home that from their POV you are a random ass stranger. You crazies have such audacity to believe everyone you seek to orbit MUST give you their undivided attention because your kid is randomly 1 of 500 or 1 or 2,000 at the same school. We. Don’t. Know. You.

“Seeing someone” a bunch of times somewhere doesn’t make you likely friends. I would see the same people on the Metro often twice a day. Outside of a random non-verbal nod, I never had the impulse to say a single word to them.

Taking it personal and whining in DCUM threads about this issue just proves there’s something off about you and their snap judgment of you is accurate. You warrant the icing. Sorry you’re middle aged with so few friends. The rest of us don’t have that problem and aren’t desperate for more.


If you don’t know how to make small talk with acquaintances without thinking they are “orbiting” you, you’re either neurodiverse or you were raised poorly.


Just being honest. You want this thread to be an echo chamber full of desperate social outcasts blaming everyone else. Just giving you the other side of the coin. Bottom line, they’re not interested. Strangers don’t owe you their time, kindness, chit-chat…or anything for that matter.


“Hey, how’re you doing?”

“I DON’T OWE YOU ANYTHING!!!!”



For people so sure of their social skills they don't seem very good at sizing people up, reading body language, and identifying the social and friendly people who want to chat. It's really not that hard but some people are coming across like annoying puppies who just go up to everyone oblivious to the cues and body language their targets are putting out.


The irony here is that I actually do not care enough about you individually to put that much effort into figuring out if I'm "allowed" to say benign things like "how's it going?" or "oh, which kid is yours?" The world does not revolve around you and I do not care if you are "put out" by a very minimal level of human interaction.

I don't even like interacting with other parents much either but view it as part of the gig. Get over yourself.


Why is it your business who my kid is? Please spare us that you plan to ask two innocuous questions total, period. No. You want to segue into what do you do, where do you all live, you want to try to name drop. You’re desperate for social interaction and want to worm your and your kid’s way into an association with higher status families.

You’re pissed you’re sized up as an interloper and cut off before you can launch.

You social climbers obviously do care, which is why this thread is a hundred pages of you whining about not being able to break into a parent clique at your kid’s school.


Np to the back and forth here. (Actually not true. I asked about the old bay dig above. Still curious about that one. Anyhoo)

You sound insane. Literally not of sound of mind. This is what goes through your head when someone says hi to you?? That is amazing. And hilarious. It’s called exchanging pleasantries. It’s just being a polite human being.

I mean, don’t stop. You are very entertaining and this thread is quickly becoming a new classic
*chef’s kiss*


+1. I hadn't been reading this thread and that comment was the first thing I saw and wow. Completely insane. I can't imagine going through life thinking people asking which kid is there is social climbing. It's just a way to pass the time.


It also assumes a social hierarchy, and that the person being asked "which one is your kid?" is higher up said hierarchy. This just sounds like hierarchy.

One or two posters on here seem to to think the average parent is sitting around plotting ways to gain access to the "cool kids" club at their kids' elementary school. When in reality most people are just trying to figure out what to make for dinner, looking for handyman recommendations, or thinking about something annoying happening at work. I have neither the energy nor the interest to try and effect some kind of social coup among a group of people I am only loosely associated with via my kids.


It has to be that. The crazed PP has a relatively low status job for the DMV.
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Anonymous wrote:I just don't get it. This post is not about wanting people to invite me or my kids places (truly unnecessary, not the point) or wanting other people's kids to be friends with my kids. I'm not trying to force anyone to do anything.

But so often when I'm at school events or activities, and forced into situation with other parents, I will turn to the person next to me and just introduce myself, ask about their kid, whatever, and they are so antisocial. Like one word answers, look uncomfortable or annoyed. I will read the room and drop it or move away, but I think it's weird. Even if I'm had a stressful day at work or am just in a bad mood, I will smile and be pleasant in those situations because, hey, we're all in the same boat to some degree and I just think being pleasant to fellow parents is part of the gig. I also just find it useful to be able to put parent faces/names with their kids, and to get to know the other families enough to be cordial during pick up/drop off or whatever.

If this is you, why can't you just be pleasant for a few moments? Why the cold shoulder?


Yes. I have seen this too. I thought this was just American culture.


Agreed. This is how Americans have been socialized (or not socialized).
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I do see some degree of “fishing for information” at kids sports. There’s always those 1-2 parents even on the most casual of 6 year old rec teams who want to know where their kid sizes up against everyone else’s kid. I also find that those people are VERY easy to sniff out. But you don’t have to play their weird competitive little game, you can just point out your kid and make some kind of joke about how they’d rather be at home playing Switch games or coloring and the competitive sports parents will leave you alone.
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Anonymous wrote:I just don't get it. This post is not about wanting people to invite me or my kids places (truly unnecessary, not the point) or wanting other people's kids to be friends with my kids. I'm not trying to force anyone to do anything.

But so often when I'm at school events or activities, and forced into situation with other parents, I will turn to the person next to me and just introduce myself, ask about their kid, whatever, and they are so antisocial. Like one word answers, look uncomfortable or annoyed. I will read the room and drop it or move away, but I think it's weird. Even if I'm had a stressful day at work or am just in a bad mood, I will smile and be pleasant in those situations because, hey, we're all in the same boat to some degree and I just think being pleasant to fellow parents is part of the gig. I also just find it useful to be able to put parent faces/names with their kids, and to get to know the other families enough to be cordial during pick up/drop off or whatever.

If this is you, why can't you just be pleasant for a few moments? Why the cold shoulder?


Yes. I have seen this too. I thought this was just American culture.


America is a huge country and there is no one culture. I was in a small town in PA recently and was looking at some chocolate muffins in the grocery store. A random woman said, "These are a great price." I said, "Yeah, and they look really good." She said, "I always buy extra when they go on sale and put them in my freezer." I said, "I'm from out of town so I can't do that, but good for you." Then we said goodbye and went on our way. If I had said "These are a great price" to a stranger in the grocery store in the dc area, they would have acted like they hadn't heard me and then just moved away.


I very rarely have moments like this in the grocery store but they are pleasant little interactions when they happen.
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Anonymous wrote:I just don't get it. This post is not about wanting people to invite me or my kids places (truly unnecessary, not the point) or wanting other people's kids to be friends with my kids. I'm not trying to force anyone to do anything.

But so often when I'm at school events or activities, and forced into situation with other parents, I will turn to the person next to me and just introduce myself, ask about their kid, whatever, and they are so antisocial. Like one word answers, look uncomfortable or annoyed. I will read the room and drop it or move away, but I think it's weird. Even if I'm had a stressful day at work or am just in a bad mood, I will smile and be pleasant in those situations because, hey, we're all in the same boat to some degree and I just think being pleasant to fellow parents is part of the gig. I also just find it useful to be able to put parent faces/names with their kids, and to get to know the other families enough to be cordial during pick up/drop off or whatever.

If this is you, why can't you just be pleasant for a few moments? Why the cold shoulder?


Yes. I have seen this too. I thought this was just American culture.


Agreed. This is how Americans have been socialized (or not socialized).


It's not an American thing. It might be a DC thing, though I think you find similar people in any large coastal city with a lot of "high status" jobs.

People are not like this most other places. That's part of why it's disorienting for those of us who have lived elsewhere. I never thought about the Rust Belt city we used to live in as being a particularly friendly place, until I moved to DC.

I think it's a combination here of people being genuinely more busy (due to more demanding jobs, a culture with higher expectations for achievement and "busy-ness", and a higher cost of living that demand more of people to do just okay), and a cultural difference that makes people here more cynical and suspicious. Like the posts in this thread assuming someone saying hi or introducing themselves must want something from you, or will become clingy -- that's very much a DC attitude that you would never find in our former city.

But where we used to live, more people had 9-5 or 8-4 jobs that weren't particularly high pressured. Culturally there wasn't an expectation that your job be important or influential. Most people went to state schools and are fine with their kids doing the same. Even among more successful white collar professionals, there's just a general lack of intensity around work and money. COL was waaaaaay lower so people didn't stress about needing a really high income, which means more families have a spouse who takes a few years off or works PT or has a very flexible job, which means more people aren't as stressed and pressed at school pick up or events.

People still have problems, some people are nicer or meaner, there's still the normal range of social experiences there. But you don't encounter this specific problem of unfriendliness or rudeness. Pretty much everyone, no matter their personality or situation, will do the standard quick hello or introduction with another parent, while smiling pleasantly. It's just expected this is what you do and no one views it as a burden or manipulation tactic. Maybe on a really bad day you might be shorter than usual but it's going to be rare and most people will write it off as "oh she probably wasn't feeling well."

DC is really different. There is a hostility here I am unused to. I miss where we used to live, frankly.
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Anonymous wrote:I just don't get it. This post is not about wanting people to invite me or my kids places (truly unnecessary, not the point) or wanting other people's kids to be friends with my kids. I'm not trying to force anyone to do anything.

But so often when I'm at school events or activities, and forced into situation with other parents, I will turn to the person next to me and just introduce myself, ask about their kid, whatever, and they are so antisocial. Like one word answers, look uncomfortable or annoyed. I will read the room and drop it or move away, but I think it's weird. Even if I'm had a stressful day at work or am just in a bad mood, I will smile and be pleasant in those situations because, hey, we're all in the same boat to some degree and I just think being pleasant to fellow parents is part of the gig. I also just find it useful to be able to put parent faces/names with their kids, and to get to know the other families enough to be cordial during pick up/drop off or whatever.

If this is you, why can't you just be pleasant for a few moments? Why the cold shoulder?


Yes. I have seen this too. I thought this was just American culture.


America is a huge country and there is no one culture. I was in a small town in PA recently and was looking at some chocolate muffins in the grocery store. A random woman said, "These are a great price." I said, "Yeah, and they look really good." She said, "I always buy extra when they go on sale and put them in my freezer." I said, "I'm from out of town so I can't do that, but good for you." Then we said goodbye and went on our way. If I had said "These are a great price" to a stranger in the grocery store in the dc area, they would have acted like they hadn't heard me and then just moved away.


I very rarely have moments like this in the grocery store but they are pleasant little interactions when they happen.


I have had interactions like that in the DC area but it's rare for it to happen with a fellow UMC white woman. When I have those exchanges, they are almost always with black people here.

Yesterday I was walking my daughter home from school and a woman walking by saw her uniform (public school) and stopped and asked if we were at XYZ school. I said yes and she said that was where her child went, and we had this nice, short conversation about the school and the neighborhood. I walked away just feeling pleasant and connected to my community. But this only happens with black people here. On average, the white people are much less friendly. And I'm white. I try not to contribute to the problem, I don't really get why it's like this.
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