Would you be okay with your daughter dating a boy from a different race?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:PP, you indeed referenced where Shaquanda was from, not where she is headed. Yes, I would rather have my AA son date Shaquanda from the hood but who is getting good grades, sings at church and runs track in hopes of getting a scholarship for college than precious Snowflake who has no idea of what it is like to be AA in this country and doesn't understand why a white person doesn't have a pass to use the n word...and doesn't care. "From the hood" means nothing since most AAs in the US somehow worked their way up from slavery. Since my grandparents were share-croppers who put my dad through law school. Since my in-laws are a mix of have and have less but who share the common goal of trying to do better for the next generation.

Do you just refuse to read posts? The whole point is that Shaquanda would be dating your soon being uneducated with nothing "going on" and would rely on your son for her suppport, etc. SO of course she can change in the future but if her intent is to live off your son then its just GREAT to know that you would rather have someone leeching off your son (potentially) than someone who is already sufficient.

Thanks for proving that SKIN COLOR matter most to you.

Don't feel like going back in the thread, but you only mentioned Shaquanda being uneducated and from (or living) in the projects. Not sure how that signals she's going nowhere. I was born and raised in the projects, so like I said Shaquanda's story is not unfamiliar to me and being poor and uneducated does not automatically rule you out for me.

You can always go to school and get an education. You can always move out of the projects. You can almost never get someone to totally understand what it means to be black in America (good and bad).

They say Ghana is quite attractive in terms of climate and cost of living.

What's your point? Are you telling me to "go back to Africa"? How original. And cute..considering it's highly likely that my family have been "Americans" far longer than your own.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP, you indeed referenced where Shaquanda was from, not where she is headed. Yes, I would rather have my AA son date Shaquanda from the hood but who is getting good grades, sings at church and runs track in hopes of getting a scholarship for college than precious Snowflake who has no idea of what it is like to be AA in this country and doesn't understand why a white person doesn't have a pass to use the n word...and doesn't care. "From the hood" means nothing since most AAs in the US somehow worked their way up from slavery. Since my grandparents were share-croppers who put my dad through law school. Since my in-laws are a mix of have and have less but who share the common goal of trying to do better for the next generation.

Do you just refuse to read posts? The whole point is that Shaquanda would be dating your soon being uneducated with nothing "going on" and would rely on your son for her suppport, etc. SO of course she can change in the future but if her intent is to live off your son then its just GREAT to know that you would rather have someone leeching off your son (potentially) than someone who is already sufficient.

Thanks for proving that SKIN COLOR matter most to you.

Don't feel like going back in the thread, but you only mentioned Shaquanda being uneducated and from (or living) in the projects. Not sure how that signals she's going nowhere. I was born and raised in the projects, so like I said Shaquanda's story is not unfamiliar to me and being poor and uneducated does not automatically rule you out for me.

You can always go to school and get an education. You can always move out of the projects. You can almost never get someone to totally understand what it means to be black in America (good and bad).

They say Ghana is quite attractive in terms of climate and cost of living.

Wow.....

Good...why don't YOU move there? I am quite happy in Glover Park.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I can't wait until some of the AA sons referenced in this thread bring home white . . . men. Now THAT'S going to be a party!

AA mom here. I'd actually be more okay with a gay son bringing home a white guy. Of the white gays I know, they're fun as hell, down to earth and are compassionate people.

WTF?!?!?!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:"Nonetheless, I do think the gender role expectations are somewhat different in the Black Community than it is in mine, and I'd want to be sure that my dd wasn't going out with a guy who had different values about how we treat women than I do. Frankly, I do think I'm more likely to encounter that with a young black boy today than I am from an Indian boy whose parents are fresh off the boat."

AA, mixed, for professional reasons knows many, many people from India. Wrong, PP, sorry.

And also, look at how many black women are in college vs black men. There are more women. So no, I would say that your perceptions are a bit off. You need to turn off Real Housewives of Atlanta, sweetie. Most educated AAs have very contemporary, normal, American lives and women are not at home, barefoot in the kitchen with 5 kids, responding to "ho get my beer."

That's probably true. But unless DD has some preferences she hasn't yet revealed to me, she's not going to be dating those black women in college, is she? I'm not really sure what it says about the fact that most of her black male peers aren't going to college, but that doesn't really sway me to change my mind. She wants to date a college-bound black boy? I'm totally cool with that; the issues about gender role expectations are totally different between the Black community and an Muslim community. It would totally depend on the circumstance.

Let's not forget I was trying to explain what I saw as a possible rationale for another poster's response. I think you'd be hard pressed to argue that the record for African Americans on women's rights lags that of white people. Read Maya Angelou or bell hooks sometime.

I am the PP to whom you are responding. I have read hooks and angelou and many more critiques of gender relationships within and outside of the AA race. You are referencing women born in the 20s and 50s. If I were to take the writings of Virginia Woolf and apply them to your life, would they be entirely accurate? You know nothing about black people other than what you have read and seen through media and your mis-education is entirely why I am okay with you sticking to your race and letting my son know what waits for him if he crosses the color line. He can date white girls but your attitude is what waits for him on the other side.

My point in saying that more AA women are enrolled in college than AA men is that similarly, women in general have surpassed men in holding undergraduate degrees. Things have changed and obviously AA women have a different sense of their roles. I think AA men in large see women as equal, as many American white males do. So no, I am not hard pressed to find arguments that there is a great deal of gender equality amongst AA males and females. Btw, you WILL let your daughter date a latino; latinos have by far the highest incidences of domestic abuse against women and children. Your rationale its poorly constructed and not well researched.

Just admit that Blacks are not your flavor and that you, yourself, are stuck in the past. Stay in your corner bc those of us who actually seek a better world for our children do not want you and your bigoted spawn in it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP, you indeed referenced where Shaquanda was from, not where she is headed. Yes, I would rather have my AA son date Shaquanda from the hood but who is getting good grades, sings at church and runs track in hopes of getting a scholarship for college than precious Snowflake who has no idea of what it is like to be AA in this country and doesn't understand why a white person doesn't have a pass to use the n word...and doesn't care. "From the hood" means nothing since most AAs in the US somehow worked their way up from slavery. Since my grandparents were share-croppers who put my dad through law school. Since my in-laws are a mix of have and have less but who share the common goal of trying to do better for the next generation.

Do you just refuse to read posts? The whole point is that Shaquanda would be dating your soon being uneducated with nothing "going on" and would rely on your son for her suppport, etc. SO of course she can change in the future but if her intent is to live off your son then its just GREAT to know that you would rather have someone leeching off your son (potentially) than someone who is already sufficient.

Thanks for proving that SKIN COLOR matter most to you.

Don't feel like going back in the thread, but you only mentioned Shaquanda being uneducated and from (or living) in the projects. Not sure how that signals she's going nowhere. I was born and raised in the projects, so like I said Shaquanda's story is not unfamiliar to me and being poor and uneducated does not automatically rule you out for me.

You can always go to school and get an education. You can always move out of the projects. You can almost never get someone to totally understand what it means to be black in America (good and bad).

They say Ghana is quite attractive in terms of climate and cost of living.

What's your point? Are you telling me to "go back to Africa"? How original. And cute..considering it's highly likely that my family have been "Americans" far longer than your own.

True. That's why I have no white guilt. I find recent african immigrants most agreeable. What I cannot understand is all this hocus pocus chip on your shoulder talk. Go back a few generations and a good two-thirds of this country were share-croppers -- whether here, in the south of italy or elsewhere. We have a two term black president for goodness sake. "Black in america." It's just so tedious and silly.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:To the black women posting about their sons not marrying white women: your racism and shoulder chips are the only reason I'd be concerned for my daughter to marry a black man. Do you not see you are the very root of the problem?!

Yes, black women are the root to racism in America. Go figure.

Please re-read the post. That is what you comprehended but not what she wrote.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The sense I get is that Asian-Caucasian dating is quite common, even trendy, and presents few, if any issues, among the white folk, although some of the FOB Asian parents have some discomfort with it.

To my surprise, I think this is so mainstream (Asian-Caucasian couple) now that they are even in commercials.

- signed Asian-Caucasian couple

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:PP, you indeed referenced where Shaquanda was from, not where she is headed. Yes, I would rather have my AA son date Shaquanda from the hood but who is getting good grades, sings at church and runs track in hopes of getting a scholarship for college than precious Snowflake who has no idea of what it is like to be AA in this country and doesn't understand why a white person doesn't have a pass to use the n word...and doesn't care. "From the hood" means nothing since most AAs in the US somehow worked their way up from slavery. Since my grandparents were share-croppers who put my dad through law school. Since my in-laws are a mix of have and have less but who share the common goal of trying to do better for the next generation.

Do you just refuse to read posts? The whole point is that Shaquanda would be dating your soon being uneducated with nothing "going on" and would rely on your son for her suppport, etc. SO of course she can change in the future but if her intent is to live off your son then its just GREAT to know that you would rather have someone leeching off your son (potentially) than someone who is already sufficient.

Thanks for proving that SKIN COLOR matter most to you.

I did read. And you said Shaquanda from the hood. Where she is from is not relevant to me. You seem to think that I should infer, from your reference to her name and current living situation, where she will be in the future, where her aspirations lie and what type of partner she will be for my son. Shaquanda from the hood with goals, yes, a preference. Shaquanda, Becky. Ling, Pocahontas or Maria from anywhere with no real goals, a sense of entitlement, a history of poor life decisions and no willingness to accept guidance, and no, that is not acceptable.

You don't just throw out a made up name and a person's living situation and assume that other people assume the same things about her that you do. YOU are racist. YOU are classist. You don't gett o lecture anyone anywhere on the sad, sad state of affairs on race. Bad girl.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP, you indeed referenced where Shaquanda was from, not where she is headed. Yes, I would rather have my AA son date Shaquanda from the hood but who is getting good grades, sings at church and runs track in hopes of getting a scholarship for college than precious Snowflake who has no idea of what it is like to be AA in this country and doesn't understand why a white person doesn't have a pass to use the n word...and doesn't care. "From the hood" means nothing since most AAs in the US somehow worked their way up from slavery. Since my grandparents were share-croppers who put my dad through law school. Since my in-laws are a mix of have and have less but who share the common goal of trying to do better for the next generation.

Do you just refuse to read posts? The whole point is that Shaquanda would be dating your soon being uneducated with nothing "going on" and would rely on your son for her suppport, etc. SO of course she can change in the future but if her intent is to live off your son then its just GREAT to know that you would rather have someone leeching off your son (potentially) than someone who is already sufficient.

Thanks for proving that SKIN COLOR matter most to you.

Don't feel like going back in the thread, but you only mentioned Shaquanda being uneducated and from (or living) in the projects. Not sure how that signals she's going nowhere. I was born and raised in the projects, so like I said Shaquanda's story is not unfamiliar to me and being poor and uneducated does not automatically rule you out for me.

You can always go to school and get an education. You can always move out of the projects. You can almost never get someone to totally understand what it means to be black in America (good and bad).

They say Ghana is quite attractive in terms of climate and cost of living.

What's your point? Are you telling me to "go back to Africa"? How original. And cute..considering it's highly likely that my family have been "Americans" far longer than your own.

True. That's why I have no white guilt. I find recent african immigrants most agreeable. What I cannot understand is all this hocus pocus chip on your shoulder talk. Go back a few generations and a good two-thirds of this country were share-croppers -- whether here, in the south of italy or elsewhere. We have a two term black president for goodness sake. "Black in america." It's just so tedious and silly.

Who's asking you to have white guilt? And I'm not surprised you find "recent african immigrants most agreeable". What you might want to do is sit down and actually think about why you find that to be so.

Again with the chip on the shoulder thing....very played out terminology, not to mention untrue.

It's clear you know little about black people and our history. And that's cool with me, but rather than cast judgments about something you know nothing about, it might be best to remain quiet on this particular subject.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP, you indeed referenced where Shaquanda was from, not where she is headed. Yes, I would rather have my AA son date Shaquanda from the hood but who is getting good grades, sings at church and runs track in hopes of getting a scholarship for college than precious Snowflake who has no idea of what it is like to be AA in this country and doesn't understand why a white person doesn't have a pass to use the n word...and doesn't care. "From the hood" means nothing since most AAs in the US somehow worked their way up from slavery. Since my grandparents were share-croppers who put my dad through law school. Since my in-laws are a mix of have and have less but who share the common goal of trying to do better for the next generation.

Do you just refuse to read posts? The whole point is that Shaquanda would be dating your soon being uneducated with nothing "going on" and would rely on your son for her suppport, etc. SO of course she can change in the future but if her intent is to live off your son then its just GREAT to know that you would rather have someone leeching off your son (potentially) than someone who is already sufficient.

Thanks for proving that SKIN COLOR matter most to you.

I did read. And you said Shaquanda from the hood. Where she is from is not relevant to me. You seem to think that I should infer, from your reference to her name and current living situation, where she will be in the future, where her aspirations lie and what type of partner she will be for my son. Shaquanda from the hood with goals, yes, a preference. Shaquanda, Becky. Ling, Pocahontas or Maria from anywhere with no real goals, a sense of entitlement, a history of poor life decisions and no willingness to accept guidance, and no, that is not acceptable.

You don't just throw out a made up name and a person's living situation and assume that other people assume the same things about her that you do. YOU are racist. YOU are classist. You don't gett o lecture anyone anywhere on the sad, sad state of affairs on race. Bad girl.

I was not going to respond but you call ME racist. Ahahaha. I would welcome your white, black, asian, latino, gay, straight, son or daughter into my home with the utmost respect. I would NOT judge my childs potential mate on SKIN color you ass.

Go back to your racist home and spew you crap there. I gave a scenario with a "ghetto" name and cited the "projects". GASP. I could easily give an example of "Crystal" who lives as a stripper in the trailor park and who the hell cares. Thats not racist or classist its an example of a scenario we all know exists in this country on both accounts.

Look in the mirror you nasty piece of work because it YOU who is the racist. I dont judge based on a freaking skin color. If you are the angry AA woman god help your children. Hopefully they know what a judgemental witch you are and stay far far away from you as you age and get worse.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP, you indeed referenced where Shaquanda was from, not where she is headed. Yes, I would rather have my AA son date Shaquanda from the hood but who is getting good grades, sings at church and runs track in hopes of getting a scholarship for college than precious Snowflake who has no idea of what it is like to be AA in this country and doesn't understand why a white person doesn't have a pass to use the n word...and doesn't care. "From the hood" means nothing since most AAs in the US somehow worked their way up from slavery. Since my grandparents were share-croppers who put my dad through law school. Since my in-laws are a mix of have and have less but who share the common goal of trying to do better for the next generation.

Do you just refuse to read posts? The whole point is that Shaquanda would be dating your soon being uneducated with nothing "going on" and would rely on your son for her suppport, etc. SO of course she can change in the future but if her intent is to live off your son then its just GREAT to know that you would rather have someone leeching off your son (potentially) than someone who is already sufficient.

Thanks for proving that SKIN COLOR matter most to you.

I did read. And you said Shaquanda from the hood. Where she is from is not relevant to me. You seem to think that I should infer, from your reference to her name and current living situation, where she will be in the future, where her aspirations lie and what type of partner she will be for my son. Shaquanda from the hood with goals, yes, a preference. Shaquanda, Becky. Ling, Pocahontas or Maria from anywhere with no real goals, a sense of entitlement, a history of poor life decisions and no willingness to accept guidance, and no, that is not acceptable.

You don't just throw out a made up name and a person's living situation and assume that other people assume the same things about her that you do. YOU are racist. YOU are classist. You don't gett o lecture anyone anywhere on the sad, sad state of affairs on race. Bad girl.

I was not going to respond but you call ME racist. Ahahaha. I would welcome your white, black, asian, latino, gay, straight, son or daughter into my home with the utmost respect. I would NOT judge my childs potential mate on SKIN color you ass.

Go back to your racist home and spew you crap there. I gave a scenario with a "ghetto" name and cited the "projects". GASP. I could easily give an example of "Crystal" who lives as a stripper in the trailor park and who the hell cares. Thats not racist or classist its an example of a scenario we all know exists in this country on both accounts.

Look in the mirror you nasty piece of work because it YOU who is the racist. I dont judge based on a freaking skin color. If you are the angry AA woman god help your children. Hopefully they know what a judgemental witch you are and stay far far away from you as you age and get worse.

I am not the AA mom and YOU really need to stop. Your comments were racist, and so are some of hers. Stop throwing stones in your glass house already!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP, you indeed referenced where Shaquanda was from, not where she is headed. Yes, I would rather have my AA son date Shaquanda from the hood but who is getting good grades, sings at church and runs track in hopes of getting a scholarship for college than precious Snowflake who has no idea of what it is like to be AA in this country and doesn't understand why a white person doesn't have a pass to use the n word...and doesn't care. "From the hood" means nothing since most AAs in the US somehow worked their way up from slavery. Since my grandparents were share-croppers who put my dad through law school. Since my in-laws are a mix of have and have less but who share the common goal of trying to do better for the next generation.

Do you just refuse to read posts? The whole point is that Shaquanda would be dating your soon being uneducated with nothing "going on" and would rely on your son for her suppport, etc. SO of course she can change in the future but if her intent is to live off your son then its just GREAT to know that you would rather have someone leeching off your son (potentially) than someone who is already sufficient.

Thanks for proving that SKIN COLOR matter most to you.

I did read. And you said Shaquanda from the hood. Where she is from is not relevant to me. You seem to think that I should infer, from your reference to her name and current living situation, where she will be in the future, where her aspirations lie and what type of partner she will be for my son. Shaquanda from the hood with goals, yes, a preference. Shaquanda, Becky. Ling, Pocahontas or Maria from anywhere with no real goals, a sense of entitlement, a history of poor life decisions and no willingness to accept guidance, and no, that is not acceptable.

You don't just throw out a made up name and a person's living situation and assume that other people assume the same things about her that you do. YOU are racist. YOU are classist. You don't gett o lecture anyone anywhere on the sad, sad state of affairs on race. Bad girl.

I was not going to respond but you call ME racist. Ahahaha. I would welcome your white, black, asian, latino, gay, straight, son or daughter into my home with the utmost respect. I would NOT judge my childs potential mate on SKIN color you ass.

Go back to your racist home and spew you crap there. I gave a scenario with a "ghetto" name and cited the "projects". GASP. I could easily give an example of "Crystal" who lives as a stripper in the trailor park and who the hell cares. Thats not racist or classist its an example of a scenario we all know exists in this country on both accounts.

Look in the mirror you nasty piece of work because it YOU who is the racist. I dont judge based on a freaking skin color. If you are the angry AA woman god help your children. Hopefully they know what a judgemental witch you are and stay far far away from you as you age and get worse.

I am not the AA mom and YOU really need to stop. Your comments were racist, and so are some of hers. Stop throwing stones in your glass house already!

Not racist at all! It's called stereotyping. Look up the definition of racism lady and then educate yourself.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:"Nonetheless, I do think the gender role expectations are somewhat different in the Black Community than it is in mine, and I'd want to be sure that my dd wasn't going out with a guy who had different values about how we treat women than I do. Frankly, I do think I'm more likely to encounter that with a young black boy today than I am from an Indian boy whose parents are fresh off the boat."

AA, mixed, for professional reasons knows many, many people from India. Wrong, PP, sorry.

And also, look at how many black women are in college vs black men. There are more women. So no, I would say that your perceptions are a bit off. You need to turn off Real Housewives of Atlanta, sweetie. Most educated AAs have very contemporary, normal, American lives and women are not at home, barefoot in the kitchen with 5 kids, responding to "ho get my beer."

That's probably true. But unless DD has some preferences she hasn't yet revealed to me, she's not going to be dating those black women in college, is she? I'm not really sure what it says about the fact that most of her black male peers aren't going to college, but that doesn't really sway me to change my mind. She wants to date a college-bound black boy? I'm totally cool with that; the issues about gender role expectations are totally different between the Black community and an Muslim community. It would totally depend on the circumstance.

Let's not forget I was trying to explain what I saw as a possible rationale for another poster's response. I think you'd be hard pressed to argue that the record for African Americans on women's rights lags that of white people. Read Maya Angelou or bell hooks sometime.

I am the PP to whom you are responding. I have read hooks and angelou and many more critiques of gender relationships within and outside of the AA race. You are referencing women born in the 20s and 50s. If I were to take the writings of Virginia Woolf and apply them to your life, would they be entirely accurate? You know nothing about black people other than what you have read and seen through media and your mis-education is entirely why I am okay with you sticking to your race and letting my son know what waits for him if he crosses the color line. He can date white girls but your attitude is what waits for him on the other side.

My point in saying that more AA women are enrolled in college than AA men is that similarly, women in general have surpassed men in holding undergraduate degrees. Things have changed and obviously AA women have a different sense of their roles. I think AA men in large see women as equal, as many American white males do. So no, I am not hard pressed to find arguments that there is a great deal of gender equality amongst AA males and females. Btw, you WILL let your daughter date a latino; latinos have by far the highest incidences of domestic abuse against women and children. Your rationale its poorly constructed and not well researched.

Just admit that Blacks are not your flavor and that you, yourself, are stuck in the past. Stay in your corner bc those of us who actually seek a better world for our children do not want you and your bigoted spawn in it.

So, you'd let your daughter date a gangbanger? If not, you're a bigot too.

Fuck you, by the way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP, you indeed referenced where Shaquanda was from, not where she is headed. Yes, I would rather have my AA son date Shaquanda from the hood but who is getting good grades, sings at church and runs track in hopes of getting a scholarship for college than precious Snowflake who has no idea of what it is like to be AA in this country and doesn't understand why a white person doesn't have a pass to use the n word...and doesn't care. "From the hood" means nothing since most AAs in the US somehow worked their way up from slavery. Since my grandparents were share-croppers who put my dad through law school. Since my in-laws are a mix of have and have less but who share the common goal of trying to do better for the next generation.

Do you just refuse to read posts? The whole point is that Shaquanda would be dating your soon being uneducated with nothing "going on" and would rely on your son for her suppport, etc. SO of course she can change in the future but if her intent is to live off your son then its just GREAT to know that you would rather have someone leeching off your son (potentially) than someone who is already sufficient.

Thanks for proving that SKIN COLOR matter most to you.

I did read. And you said Shaquanda from the hood. Where she is from is not relevant to me. You seem to think that I should infer, from your reference to her name and current living situation, where she will be in the future, where her aspirations lie and what type of partner she will be for my son. Shaquanda from the hood with goals, yes, a preference. Shaquanda, Becky. Ling, Pocahontas or Maria from anywhere with no real goals, a sense of entitlement, a history of poor life decisions and no willingness to accept guidance, and no, that is not acceptable.

You don't just throw out a made up name and a person's living situation and assume that other people assume the same things about her that you do. YOU are racist. YOU are classist. You don't gett o lecture anyone anywhere on the sad, sad state of affairs on race. Bad girl.

I was not going to respond but you call ME racist. Ahahaha. I would welcome your white, black, asian, latino, gay, straight, son or daughter into my home with the utmost respect. I would NOT judge my childs potential mate on SKIN color you ass.

Go back to your racist home and spew you crap there. I gave a scenario with a "ghetto" name and cited the "projects". GASP. I could easily give an example of "Crystal" who lives as a stripper in the trailor park and who the hell cares. Thats not racist or classist its an example of a scenario we all know exists in this country on both accounts.

Look in the mirror you nasty piece of work because it YOU who is the racist. I dont judge based on a freaking skin color. If you are the angry AA woman god help your children. Hopefully they know what a judgemental witch you are and stay far far away from you as you age and get worse.

I am not the AA mom and YOU really need to stop. Your comments were racist, and so are some of hers. Stop throwing stones in your glass house already!

Not racist at all! It's called stereotyping. Look up the definition of racism lady and then educate yourself.

Pp here. And stereotyping is negative...yes. But so is judging based on a situation and neither one is racism. I used a stereotype to portray a negative situation but not once on here have I called my race superior or do I believe a race is superior.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Nonetheless, I do think the gender role expectations are somewhat different in the Black Community than it is in mine, and I'd want to be sure that my dd wasn't going out with a guy who had different values about how we treat women than I do. Frankly, I do think I'm more likely to encounter that with a young black boy today than I am from an Indian boy whose parents are fresh off the boat."

AA, mixed, for professional reasons knows many, many people from India. Wrong, PP, sorry.

And also, look at how many black women are in college vs black men. There are more women. So no, I would say that your perceptions are a bit off. You need to turn off Real Housewives of Atlanta, sweetie. Most educated AAs have very contemporary, normal, American lives and women are not at home, barefoot in the kitchen with 5 kids, responding to "ho get my beer."

That's probably true. But unless DD has some preferences she hasn't yet revealed to me, she's not going to be dating those black women in college, is she? I'm not really sure what it says about the fact that most of her black male peers aren't going to college, but that doesn't really sway me to change my mind. She wants to date a college-bound black boy? I'm totally cool with that; the issues about gender role expectations are totally different between the Black community and an Muslim community. It would totally depend on the circumstance.

Let's not forget I was trying to explain what I saw as a possible rationale for another poster's response. I think you'd be hard pressed to argue that the record for African Americans on women's rights lags that of white people. Read Maya Angelou or bell hooks sometime.

I am the PP to whom you are responding. I have read hooks and angelou and many more critiques of gender relationships within and outside of the AA race. You are referencing women born in the 20s and 50s. If I were to take the writings of Virginia Woolf and apply them to your life, would they be entirely accurate? You know nothing about black people other than what you have read and seen through media and your mis-education is entirely why I am okay with you sticking to your race and letting my son know what waits for him if he crosses the color line. He can date white girls but your attitude is what waits for him on the other side.

My point in saying that more AA women are enrolled in college than AA men is that similarly, women in general have surpassed men in holding undergraduate degrees. Things have changed and obviously AA women have a different sense of their roles. I think AA men in large see women as equal, as many American white males do. So no, I am not hard pressed to find arguments that there is a great deal of gender equality amongst AA males and females. Btw, you WILL let your daughter date a latino; latinos have by far the highest incidences of domestic abuse against women and children. Your rationale its poorly constructed and not well researched.

Just admit that Blacks are not your flavor and that you, yourself, are stuck in the past. Stay in your corner bc those of us who actually seek a better world for our children do not want you and your bigoted spawn in it.

So, you'd let your daughter date a gangbanger? If not, you're a bigot too.

Fuck you, by the way.

What? You missed th epoint, which is that you have constructed reasons to not like AA males that are not based on logic. You are racist. Or at least ignorant. A gang-banger? Where did I ever talk about my own preferences in terms of who my daughter dates? My husband and his three brothers, their friends, their cousins and all of my black male colleagues have managed to not be gang-bangers and do not do any harm to women. I would like to let you know that most black men are not in gangs. I have no issue with dating across the color line other than women like you will constantly give my very well-raised, well-educated son the thrice-over because of his skin color alone, nevermind that he went to great schools, is well-accomplished speaks three languages and respects women starting with his mother. You are upset because someone just held a mirror to your face an ddebunked your poor logic.