If you support Arizona - Don't be too quick to judge an illegal 'alien'

[Anonymous]

My brother-in-law is from overseas. His mom died, and his father lives alone and is blind. He's tried to get a visa for his dad to bring him here, and has been rejected.

It seems unfair that people who are trying to follow the rules can't get in, but people who are willing to break the rules get in. My BIL's dad has a place to live and people who are willing to take care of him. Why not let him in? And, if you're not going to let him in, then why let these people who come here illegally stay?

Personally, I think it's all business. Companies hire these workers at low wages and it helps them keep their profits higher. Until that changes, there will be no immigration reform.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My brother-in-law is from overseas. His mom died, and his father lives alone and is blind. He's tried to get a visa for his dad to bring him here, and has been rejected.

It seems unfair that people who are trying to follow the rules can't get in, but people who are willing to break the rules get in. My BIL's dad has a place to live and people who are willing to take care of him. Why not let him in? And, if you're not going to let him in, then why let these people who come here illegally stay?

Personally, I think it's all business. Companies hire these workers at low wages and it helps them keep their profits higher. Until that changes, there will be no immigration reform.

It's an election year so try contacting your MC and see if you can get any help from that office. Is there such a thing s a "hardship" visa?

[Anonymous]

For all the PPs who are stating that 'illegal immigrants' broke the law and therefore deserve what they get, you must be blissfully unaware of how one can become 'illegal.'

My DH came here illegally as a child. His parents brought him here. He was eventually able to get a work permit. He learned English, went to American schools, applied for a green card, worked, paid and still pays taxes, bought a home, married me, and had American children. He learned after several years here that he couldn't renew his work permit due to the type of political asylum his father was awarded through which DH earned a work permit.

We contacted a lawyer and found out that I cannot apply for a visa for him without guaranteeing that we will be separated for ten years as a penalty for his illegal entry to the country.

Many people become 'illegal' through consequence of family or shady laws. Our system is beyond broken--the US exploited that cheap labor for years and how it has blown up in our faces.

AZ ought to be ashamed of itself. This is blatant racism. Moreover, one cannot look 'illegal' and AZ is wasting everyone's time and money when they should be tackling security issues, the US hunger for drugs and gang issues. I wonder if my husband toting his blond children and speaking perfect English would fall into their suspect category? There are tens of thousands of people here illegally who do not fit the bill--AZ is specifically targeting Spanish speaking individuals who appear 'Latino'--whatever that means.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
AZ ought to be ashamed of itself. This is blatant racism. Moreover, one cannot look 'illegal' and AZ is wasting everyone's time and money when they should be tackling security issues, the US hunger for drugs and gang issues. I wonder if my husband toting his blond children and speaking perfect English would fall into their suspect category? There are tens of thousands of people here illegally who do not fit the bill--AZ is specifically targeting Spanish speaking individuals who appear 'Latino'--whatever that means.

I diagree that this is racism.

It doesn't matter if the person is here illegally from Guam, Pakistan, Iceland, South Africa, or Guatemala. It's just that they are here ILLEGALLY. It is not racist to expect people to follow the law.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For all the PPs who are stating that 'illegal immigrants' broke the law and therefore deserve what they get, you must be blissfully unaware of how one can become 'illegal.'

My DH came here illegally as a child. His parents brought him here. He was eventually able to get a work permit. He learned English, went to American schools, applied for a green card, worked, paid and still pays taxes, bought a home, married me, and had American children. He learned after several years here that he couldn't renew his work permit due to the type of political asylum his father was awarded through which DH earned a work permit.

We contacted a lawyer and found out that I cannot apply for a visa for him without guaranteeing that we will be separated for ten years as a penalty for his illegal entry to the country.

Many people become 'illegal' through consequence of family or shady laws. Our system is beyond broken--the US exploited that cheap labor for years and how it has blown up in our faces.

AZ ought to be ashamed of itself. This is blatant racism. Moreover, one cannot look 'illegal' and AZ is wasting everyone's time and money when they should be tackling security issues, the US hunger for drugs and gang issues. I wonder if my husband toting his blond children and speaking perfect English would fall into their suspect category? There are tens of thousands of people here illegally who do not fit the bill--AZ is specifically targeting Spanish speaking individuals who appear 'Latino'--whatever that means.

It sucks for your husband that he was brought here illegally...but I don't believe that he never knew he came here illegal, on some point, his parents probably mentioned it. And that just brings problems on some point.
Although he didn't choose this, he did stay, which is a kind of choice.
Breaking the law, even if your parents started it, always brings it's negatives and problems, and I think that entering a country illegal is breaking the law. And it doesn't matter if the laws make sense. It's the law!!

Most people who are against the immigration laws seem to be the ones who have loved ones getting in trouble because of them. It is hard to come and stay here legally, but many people manage to do it. Why should we all feel sorry for the ones who can't? There is, in most cases, the choice of going home. There is no point in complaining about a law that a person has broken.

[Anonymous]

PP you're an a$$. PP's husband's home is HERE! he was brought here as a child, grew up here and have no connections to his parent's country. There's mo "home" for him to go back to.

[Anonymous]

There are many kinds of visas that can be used for some of the situations listed in this forum regarding sick relatives, etc. These people need to get a good immigration lawyer to help them (but they are not cheap) from a reputable firm. If you are a permanent resident I believe based on income levels you could sponsor someone on a visa (the income level is in place to make sure the person you sponsor doesn't turn around then try to take advantage of the welfare and social services over there, the sponsor is supposed to be paying the living expenses). A citizen definitely can. We have looked into this scenario with regard to my aging MIL who is lives in an EU country, and having her come to live with us. But people coming over here and staying after the date of the expiration of the visa is what happens a lot and those are illegals as well. These are the types who are most likely making it more difficult to get family here for legitimate reasons. All being said, if you are serious about getting an ailing elderly relative here so you can take care of them, get a good lawyer (will cost you but you should have better success).

Illegal is illegal to me, so if you aren't willing to do what it take to follow the law and enter and stay in the US legally under US laws, I have little support for your cause.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PP you're an a$$. PP's husband's home is HERE! he was brought here as a child, grew up here and have no connections to his parent's country. There's mo "home" for him to go back to.

well then it seems the anger should be directed at his parents for pitting him in that position. They knew the risks and decided it was worth it. I don't think they were wrong but he is suffering the consequences of his parents actions. Happens to a lot of us.

[Anonymous]

23:28 you have no idea what you're talking about. immigration lawyers can't do anything for people who are not yet in the US.

[Anonymous]

23:43 how do you know they knew the cosequences? do you know them?

[Anonymous]

Is LEGAL too much to ask? Are you THAT entitled? You can't walk into other countries, Einstein.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For all the PPs who are stating that 'illegal immigrants' broke the law and therefore deserve what they get, you must be blissfully unaware of how one can become 'illegal.'

My DH came here illegally as a child. His parents brought him here. He was eventually able to get a work permit. He learned English, went to American schools, applied for a green card, worked, paid and still pays taxes, bought a home, married me, and had American children. He learned after several years here that he couldn't renew his work permit due to the type of political asylum his father was awarded through which DH earned a work permit.

We contacted a lawyer and found out that I cannot apply for a visa for him without guaranteeing that we will be separated for ten years as a penalty for his illegal entry to the country.

Many people become 'illegal' through consequence of family or shady laws. Our system is beyond broken--the US exploited that cheap labor for years and how it has blown up in our faces.

AZ ought to be ashamed of itself. This is blatant racism. Moreover, one cannot look 'illegal' and AZ is wasting everyone's time and money when they should be tackling security issues, the US hunger for drugs and gang issues. I wonder if my husband toting his blond children and speaking perfect English would fall into their suspect category? There are tens of thousands of people here illegally who do not fit the bill--AZ is specifically targeting Spanish speaking individuals who appear 'Latino'--whatever that means.

Latino/Hispanic is NOT a race, it is a culture, so, please tell me how AZ law is "racist".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PP you're an a$$. PP's husband's home is HERE! he was brought here as a child, grew up here and have no connections to his parent's country. There's mo "home" for him to go back to.

So, you have a different opinion than me and that makes me an Ass? How very mature of you!! I'm an immigrant and it was always important to me to do it the legal way. If some people don't have that moral, thats fine. But being illegal brings problems with it and crying about it later won't make much of a difference. It is what it is. I'm not saying it was easy and I went through hell with families sponsoring my visa and abusing me. But I decided it was worth it, and I now have a green card.

Just because people have different opinion, doesn't really make anyone right or wrong, and it certainly doesn't make anyone an ass. If you can't join into a discussion without starting to call people names because they have a different view on things, then don't. People will always have a different views and I'm sure you're decent enough not to call people names on the street for disagreeing with you (at least I hope so), so why would you do it here??

Karma is a bitch if you are!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP you're an a$$. PP's husband's home is HERE! he was brought here as a child, grew up here and have no connections to his parent's country. There's mo "home" for him to go back to.

well then it seems the anger should be directed at his parents for pitting him in that position. They knew the risks and decided it was worth it. I don't think they were wrong but he is suffering the consequences of his parents actions. Happens to a lot of us.

Agreed. If you break the law, you have to realize that there will be consequences. Yes, the anger should be directed as his parents for putting him in this situation.

Can you just walk into other countries and live there? How does this work? (honestly asking) What are the policies in other countries?

If I wanted to up and move to Ecuador, can I just do so? Or Finland? Or Thailand? Does anyone know?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP you're an a$$. PP's husband's home is HERE! he was brought here as a child, grew up here and have no connections to his parent's country. There's mo "home" for him to go back to.

well then it seems the anger should be directed at his parents for pitting him in that position. They knew the risks and decided it was worth it. I don't think they were wrong but he is suffering the consequences of his parents actions. Happens to a lot of us.

Agreed. If you break the law, you have to realize that there will be consequences. Yes, the anger should be directed as his parents for putting him in this situation.

Can you just walk into other countries and live there? How does this work? (honestly asking) What are the policies in other countries?

If I wanted to up and move to Ecuador, can I just do so? Or Finland? Or Thailand? Does anyone know?

No you can't. Many countries have laws that are much more strict than ours, but the US is held to a different standard. There are not many countries that have birthright citizenship. And I don't necessarily think that we do is bad. But is more relaxed than many other places. I work with almost no Americans currently. They have all immigrated here in the last 10 years legally and went on to become citizens. I think it's great.