If you support Arizona - Don't be too quick to judge an illegal 'alien'

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:I am an immigrant (legal) and while I do not agree with the way Arizona is dealing with the illegal immigration problem, I completely agree that illegal immigration is a huge problem and should be dealt with. Rules and laws exist for a reason. In a civilized society we don't just get to follow some laws because we like them and not follow others because we don't like them. Legal residents (or citizens) should lobby their representatives if they want to change immigration laws, but illegal immigration is not acceptable in my book. This is coming from a person who endured 5 years of war and extreme poverty, but followed the rules to get here legally. If is far all the time? NO! Is it necessary to limit immigration and, to the extent that it's possible, eradicate illegal immigration? Absolutely!!!

Just curious, what if you didn't have a legal option, but had to choose between coming illegally or staying in war and poverty for the rest of your life? What would you choose then?

[Anonymous]

What war in Mexico are you talking about?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:[/b]

Anonymous wrote:23 46 the problem is that just showing a DL or a passport is not sufficient. My passport stamp is expired but my paperwork for extentions is up to date. To prove I'm here legally I have 15 pages of papers that cannot be copied (just the originals are valid and if I lose them a replacement costs $500) Do you think I walk around with my personal file?
When I travel overseas immigration takes at least 20 minutes to Check the papers and read whatever is on the computer before letting me in and they ask very specific questions about the reason for me to be inthe US; I wonder what kind of training the "every day cops" will get to be able to do such checks from inside their cars parked on the shoulder of a busy road...

Who is responsible for keeping your passport current? You? If you are here on a permanent visa, otherwise known as Green card, by law you [b]must[b] have this on your person at all times so why do you use your passport to prove you are here legally? Maybe there is a very good reason why Immigration ask you specific questions about why you are here? Also, 20 minutes is nothing, and it's your fault because you are too lazy to file proper paperwork.

another ignorant person posting about an issue they know nothing about. if you get an EXTENTION means your stamp is supposed to be expired and the only docs I need to keep current are the ones on my file. you only get a new stamp once you travel out of the US and it's not required by law that we do so.
we're talking here about a non-imigrant visa. I don't know why you're mentioning GC. I don't have one, I don't need one and I don't want one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:[/b]

Anonymous wrote:23 46 the problem is that just showing a DL or a passport is not sufficient. My passport stamp is expired but my paperwork for extentions is up to date. To prove I'm here legally I have 15 pages of papers that cannot be copied (just the originals are valid and if I lose them a replacement costs $500) Do you think I walk around with my personal file?
When I travel overseas immigration takes at least 20 minutes to Check the papers and read whatever is on the computer before letting me in and they ask very specific questions about the reason for me to be inthe US; I wonder what kind of training the "every day cops" will get to be able to do such checks from inside their cars parked on the shoulder of a busy road...

Who is responsible for keeping your passport current? You? If you are here on a permanent visa, otherwise known as Green card, by law you [b]must[b] have this on your person at all times so why do you use your passport to prove you are here legally? Maybe there is a very good reason why Immigration ask you specific questions about why you are here? Also, 20 minutes is nothing, and it's your fault because you are too lazy to file proper paperwork.

another ignorant person posting about an issue they know nothing about. if you get an EXTENTION means your stamp is supposed to be expired and the only docs I need to keep current are the ones on my file. you only get a new stamp once you travel out of the US and it's not required by law that we do so.
we're talking here about a non-imigrant visa. I don't know why you're mentioning GC. I don't have one, I don't need one and I don't want one.

Then carry your 15 pages with you to prove you are here legally. You have been allowed the privilege of living in the greatest country the world has ever known, stop complaining.

[Anonymous]

What is an EXTENTION?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:[/b]

Anonymous wrote:23 46 the problem is that just showing a DL or a passport is not sufficient. My passport stamp is expired but my paperwork for extentions is up to date. To prove I'm here legally I have 15 pages of papers that cannot be copied (just the originals are valid and if I lose them a replacement costs $500) Do you think I walk around with my personal file?
When I travel overseas immigration takes at least 20 minutes to Check the papers and read whatever is on the computer before letting me in and they ask very specific questions about the reason for me to be inthe US; I wonder what kind of training the "every day cops" will get to be able to do such checks from inside their cars parked on the shoulder of a busy road...

Who is responsible for keeping your passport current? You? If you are here on a permanent visa, otherwise known as Green card, by law you must[b] have this on your person at all times so why do you use your passport to prove you are here legally? Maybe there is a very good reason why Immigration ask you specific questions about why you are here? Also, 20 minutes is nothing, and it's your fault because you are too lazy to file proper paperwork.

another ignorant person posting about an issue they know nothing about. if you get an EXTENTION means your stamp is supposed to be expired and the only docs I need to keep current are the ones on my file. you only get a new stamp once you travel out of the US and it's not required by law that we do so.
we're talking here about a non-imigrant visa. I don't know why you're mentioning GC. I don't have one, I don't need one and I don't want one.

Then carry your 15 pages with you to prove you are here legally. [b]You have been allowed the privilege of living in the greatest country the world has ever known, stop complaining.

This is the best joke I've seen on DCUM ever! Thanks for the laughter.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:What war in Mexico are you talking about?

I'm sorry, can you point out where I mentioned Mexico? But, if you are not aware that several parts of Mexico have war-like levels of violence, you are not well informed. I suggest that you Google "San Juan Copala".

[Anonymous]

Then carry your 15 pages with you to prove you are here legally. You have been allowed the privilege of living in the greatest country the world has ever known, stop complaining.
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Yes, carry your papers with you at all times. That way, society will get used to the phrase "papers please" and those of us who look white and look like we belong can just continue on with our days and pretend not to see you being harassed by the gestapo . . . . I mean police.

Once the random searches for your papers becomes a commonly accepted part of society, we'll start having you wear yellow stars. So we can tell who you are more easily.

[Anonymous]

Why do some people think illegal immigrants are the root of all their problems? I don't get it. I don't get why some people have decided that illegal immigrants are to blame for all of society's failings. Germans used to rant about Jews this way, people. Can't you see this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:[/b]

Anonymous wrote:23 46 the problem is that just showing a DL or a passport is not sufficient. My passport stamp is expired but my paperwork for extentions is up to date. To prove I'm here legally I have 15 pages of papers that cannot be copied (just the originals are valid and if I lose them a replacement costs $500) Do you think I walk around with my personal file?
When I travel overseas immigration takes at least 20 minutes to Check the papers and read whatever is on the computer before letting me in and they ask very specific questions about the reason for me to be inthe US; I wonder what kind of training the "every day cops" will get to be able to do such checks from inside their cars parked on the shoulder of a busy road...

Who is responsible for keeping your passport current? You? If you are here on a permanent visa, otherwise known as Green card, by law you must[b] have this on your person at all times so why do you use your passport to prove you are here legally? Maybe there is a very good reason why Immigration ask you specific questions about why you are here? Also, 20 minutes is nothing, and it's your fault because you are too lazy to file proper paperwork.

another ignorant person posting about an issue they know nothing about. if you get an EXTENTION means your stamp is supposed to be expired and the only docs I need to keep current are the ones on my file. you only get a new stamp once you travel out of the US and it's not required by law that we do so.
we're talking here about a non-imigrant visa. I don't know why you're mentioning GC. I don't have one, I don't need one and I don't want one.

Then carry your 15 pages with you to prove you are here legally. [b]You have been allowed the privilege of living in the greatest country the world has ever known, stop complaining.

This is the best joke I've seen on DCUM ever! Thanks for the laughter.

Oh my! To laugh or cry. Thank goodness this is an anonymous forum; I shudder to think that any one of these VAPs (very angry people) are my friends.

[Anonymous]

As parents, I feel that we can all agree that we would do ANYTHING for our children. For my husband's family, that meant walking thousands of miles so their children could eat. They entered illegally to save their children's lives--it really is THAT BAD south of here (and many other places). Now many in his family have papers and own homes, speak English and all pay taxes--those with and without papers. Not all undocumented immigrants live off of the system and do not contribute--this is an awful stereotype. Please stop perpetuating it until you actually know undocumented people.

Central America is war torn--gang violence, corrupt governments and remnants from various civil wars wreak havoc on the people and economy. So, millions made their way over. If millions made it in, then I call that our fault. A problem of this magnitude is one that the US permitted--there is simply no other way about it. We exploited that labor and still do, because too many Americans simply will not do the work. A real solution requires the US to fix its system humanely. I just cannot see why anyone with a heart would support breaking up families, uprooting communities and encouraging stereotyping like what the AZ law will do.

Just talk to your immigrant grandparents if you have them--yes, they came in legally because they just had to walk off a boat and sign their names. They would have gotten in anyway they could. My grandfather recalls the harassment and discrimination that he endured. It was ugly and I thought the country would have learned from its mistakes.

These are people who are and will make this a better country, just as generations of immigrants did before. Let's be realistic and human about an actual solution.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am an immigrant (legal) and while I do not agree with the way Arizona is dealing with the illegal immigration problem, I completely agree that illegal immigration is a huge problem and should be dealt with. Rules and laws exist for a reason. In a civilized society we don't just get to follow some laws because we like them and not follow others because we don't like them. Legal residents (or citizens) should lobby their representatives if they want to change immigration laws, but illegal immigration is not acceptable in my book. This is coming from a person who endured 5 years of war and extreme poverty, but followed the rules to get here legally. If is far all the time? NO! Is it necessary to limit immigration and, to the extent that it's possible, eradicate illegal immigration? Absolutely!!!

Just curious, what if you didn't have a legal option, but had to choose between coming illegally or staying in war and poverty for the rest of your life? What would you choose then?

Canada.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I think that anyone with an accent and who can't speak fluent English should be checked for citizenship or a legal visa. I don't care whether they are hispanic, asian, black,or white.

There's plenty of illegals who can speak beautiful English and plenty of Americans who can't.
You sound ridiculous.

PP.actually he/she doesn't sound ridiculous...this person is really bitter with foreigners.

No actually my parents were legal immigrants to this country and I was born here. I am a minority. I'm not against foreigners, just ILLEGAL foreigners. They should get in the back of the line and should not get any preferential treatment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Then carry your 15 pages with you to prove you are here legally. You have been allowed the privilege of living in the greatest country the world has ever known, stop complaining.
[Report Post]

Yes, carry your papers with you at all times. That way, society will get used to the phrase "papers please" and those of us who look white and look like we belong can just continue on with our days and pretend not to see you being harassed by the gestapo . . . . I mean police.

Once the random searches for your papers becomes a commonly accepted part of society, we'll start having you wear yellow stars. So we can tell who you are more easily.

No. WASPs will wear a white cross and we will never be stopped You are an idiot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:[/b]

Anonymous wrote:23 46 the problem is that just showing a DL or a passport is not sufficient. My passport stamp is expired but my paperwork for extentions is up to date. To prove I'm here legally I have 15 pages of papers that cannot be copied (just the originals are valid and if I lose them a replacement costs $500) Do you think I walk around with my personal file?
When I travel overseas immigration takes at least 20 minutes to Check the papers and read whatever is on the computer before letting me in and they ask very specific questions about the reason for me to be inthe US; I wonder what kind of training the "every day cops" will get to be able to do such checks from inside their cars parked on the shoulder of a busy road...

Who is responsible for keeping your passport current? You? If you are here on a permanent visa, otherwise known as Green card, by law you must[b] have this on your person at all times so why do you use your passport to prove you are here legally? Maybe there is a very good reason why Immigration ask you specific questions about why you are here? Also, 20 minutes is nothing, and it's your fault because you are too lazy to file proper paperwork.

another ignorant person posting about an issue they know nothing about. if you get an EXTENTION means your stamp is supposed to be expired and the only docs I need to keep current are the ones on my file. you only get a new stamp once you travel out of the US and it's not required by law that we do so.
we're talking here about a non-imigrant visa. I don't know why you're mentioning GC. I don't have one, I don't need one and I don't want one.

Then carry your 15 pages with you to prove you are here legally. [b]You have been allowed the privilege of living in the greatest country the world has ever known, stop complaining.

This is the best joke I've seen on DCUM ever! Thanks for the laughter.

If America isn't the greatest country then why do we have so many illegals? Why don't they go to El Salvador, Burma, China, North Korea, Russia, Chile, Greece, and all the other countries in the world?