Private School Lacrosse Thread

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Anonymous wrote:An earlier post says there is a new there a new coach at STA? As far as I know, it's the same varsity coach from last year? or is the new coach a jv coach? I looked online but didn't see any information except about last season. thanks

Same as last year.

To PP and others who know ST Albans lacrosse...My son is a devoted and strong lacrosse player. We are looking at Landon, Prep, ST Albans and Gonzaga. My son's club coach said that we should consider the fact that ST Albans is not a lacrosse powerhouse to be a positive. In other words, my son would have a much better chance at making varsity as a freshman and start as early as sophomore year. He says that the club will be the center of college recruitment anyway, and the recruitment timeline has been moved back, so getting in with STA, making varsity earlier, getting substantial amount of playing time earlier, and starting earlier are things that are more important than playing for the winner of the conference.

What do you think of the coach's advice? Historically, do freshmen make STA varsity lacrosse? Obviously academics are important, but lacrosse can tip the scales as we've been impressed by each of these schools and think our son could do well at any one academically and socially.

Hard to believe that any club would supplant Landon and Prep and even Gonzaga as the source for information about the players for college coaches.

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LOL. You know nothing. Of course schools like Landon, Prep and Gonzaga are known by college recruiters. But unless they have a specific relationship with that HS coaching staff, they are going to rely on contact with the kid and the club coach primarily. Prep, by the way, is falling off a cliff in terms of reputation.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:An earlier post says there is a new there a new coach at STA? As far as I know, it's the same varsity coach from last year? or is the new coach a jv coach? I looked online but didn't see any information except about last season. thanks

Same as last year.

To PP and others who know ST Albans lacrosse...My son is a devoted and strong lacrosse player. We are looking at Landon, Prep, ST Albans and Gonzaga. My son's club coach said that we should consider the fact that ST Albans is not a lacrosse powerhouse to be a positive. In other words, my son would have a much better chance at making varsity as a freshman and start as early as sophomore year. He says that the club will be the center of college recruitment anyway, and the recruitment timeline has been moved back, so getting in with STA, making varsity earlier, getting substantial amount of playing time earlier, and starting earlier are things that are more important than playing for the winner of the conference.

What do you think of the coach's advice? Historically, do freshmen make STA varsity lacrosse? Obviously academics are important, but lacrosse can tip the scales as we've been impressed by each of these schools and think our son could do well at any one academically and socially.

Hard to believe that any club would supplant Landon and Prep and even Gonzaga as the source for information about the players for college coaches.

Oou




LOL. You know nothing. Of course schools like Landon, Prep and Gonzaga are known by college recruiters. But unless they have a specific relationship with that HS coaching staff, they are going to rely on contact with the kid and the club coach primarily. Prep, by the way, is falling off a cliff in terms of reputation.

How so?

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Prep may see a cliff and even may be approaching the cliff, but Prep has a ton of talent and should compete for the IAC championship this year. If Prep ends up 4th in the IAC I would admit cliff jumping would not be far off. After Giblin left Prep, the program has definitely lost its swagger. Good luck this spring.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:An earlier post says there is a new there a new coach at STA? As far as I know, it's the same varsity coach from last year? or is the new coach a jv coach? I looked online but didn't see any information except about last season. thanks

Same as last year.

To PP and others who know ST Albans lacrosse...My son is a devoted and strong lacrosse player. We are looking at Landon, Prep, ST Albans and Gonzaga. My son's club coach said that we should consider the fact that ST Albans is not a lacrosse powerhouse to be a positive. In other words, my son would have a much better chance at making varsity as a freshman and start as early as sophomore year. He says that the club will be the center of college recruitment anyway, and the recruitment timeline has been moved back, so getting in with STA, making varsity earlier, getting substantial amount of playing time earlier, and starting earlier are things that are more important than playing for the winner of the conference.

What do you think of the coach's advice? Historically, do freshmen make STA varsity lacrosse? Obviously academics are important, but lacrosse can tip the scales as we've been impressed by each of these schools and think our son could do well at any one academically and socially.

I think it depends what your end-game is. If it is D1 recruitment, and your son is good enough to start at a Landon or Gonzaga junior year, choosing STA over those two would be a mistake. If the goal is one of the D3 liberal arts schools, I'd say STA would be as as good a place as any lacrosse -wise and the academic comportment should help too in the recruitment process.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:An earlier post says there is a new there a new coach at STA? As far as I know, it's the same varsity coach from last year? or is the new coach a jv coach? I looked online but didn't see any information except about last season. thanks

Same as last year.

To PP and others who know ST Albans lacrosse...My son is a devoted and strong lacrosse player. We are looking at Landon, Prep, ST Albans and Gonzaga. My son's club coach said that we should consider the fact that ST Albans is not a lacrosse powerhouse to be a positive. In other words, my son would have a much better chance at making varsity as a freshman and start as early as sophomore year. He says that the club will be the center of college recruitment anyway, and the recruitment timeline has been moved back, so getting in with STA, making varsity earlier, getting substantial amount of playing time earlier, and starting earlier are things that are more important than playing for the winner of the conference.

What do you think of the coach's advice? Historically, do freshmen make STA varsity lacrosse? Obviously academics are important, but lacrosse can tip the scales as we've been impressed by each of these schools and think our son could do well at any one academically and socially.

I think it depends what your end-game is. If it is D1 recruitment, and your son is good enough to start at a Landon or Gonzaga junior year, choosing STA over those two would be a mistake. If the goal is one of the D3 liberal arts schools, I'd say STA would be as as good a place as any lacrosse -wise and the academic comportment should help too in the recruitment process.

+1 for the above.

[Anonymous]

Long time followe of HS lacrosse in this area, I don’t think you can go wrong with either Landon or GP. Both have a very long history of sending kids to top notch D1 programs and NESCAC schools (Landon probably has the slight edge in this category)

As a parent whose son went through this entire process less than 5 years ago, if you are truly judging on where to send your son for HS based on whether or not he can make varsosty as a freshman or a sophomore then you should really reevaluate why your son is even playing the sport . If you are worried about playing time as a freshman or sophomore then drop this notion your son is some lax super star simply because he plays on a power club team (crabs, VLC, Mad Lax etc etc). Club coaches have gradually lost their influence with college coaches as a result of the new recruiting legislation passed last year.

The sport is growing fast and it’s becoming increaseley harder to play both D1 and D3. The number of D1 programs adding the sport is not keeping up with the pace of new kids trying out the sport for the first time .

If you son is competitive and willing to work hard, I would trust your sons HS coach who actually knows your boy both in the classroom and in the playing field. Most of these club coaches or simply lax junkies trying to make a dollar.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Prep may see a cliff and even may be approaching the cliff, but Prep has a ton of talent and should compete for the IAC championship this year. If Prep ends up 4th in the IAC I would admit cliff jumping would not be far off. After Giblin left Prep, the program has definitely lost its swagger. Good luck this spring.

Talent wise, they are far behind Landon, Bullis and SSSA this year.

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coaching wise too.

[Anonymous]

Long time followe of HS lacrosse in this area, I don’t think you can go wrong with either Landon or GP. Both have a very long history of sending kids to top notch D1 programs and NESCAC schools (Landon probably has the slight edge in this category)

As a parent whose son went through this entire process less than 5 years ago, if you are truly judging on where to send your son for HS based on whether or not he can make varsosty as a freshman or a sophomore then you should really reevaluate why your son is even playing the sport . If you are worried about playing time as a freshman or sophomore then drop this notion your son is some lax super star simply because he plays on a power club team (crabs, VLC, Mad Lax etc etc). Club coaches have gradually lost their influence with college coaches as a result of the new recruiting legislation passed last year.

The sport is growing fast and it’s becoming increaseley harder to play both D1 and D3. The number of D1 programs adding the sport is not keeping up with the pace of new kids trying out the sport for the first time .

If you son is competitive and willing to work hard, I would trust your sons HS coach who actually knows your boy both in the classroom and in the playing field. Most of these club coaches or simply lax junkies trying to make a dollar.

Great post! Thank you!

[Anonymous]

Talent wise, they are far behind Landon, Bullis and SSSA this year.

Fake news! GP had a new coaching staff last year, they will be significantly better this Spring

Also, Mater Dei pipeline has shifted back in Prep's favor for three years now. They have a huge pipeline in their current freshman and sophomore classes to keep them competitive in the near future.

Unlike Bullis, they are not going go out out and "buy" a team or bring in a bunch of ringers to win a championship.

[Anonymous]

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Talent wise, they are far behind Landon, Bullis and SSSA this year.

Fake news! GP had a new coaching staff last year, they will be significantly better this Spring

Also, Mater Dei pipeline has shifted back in Prep's favor for three years now. They have a huge pipeline in their current freshman and sophomore classes to keep them competitive in the near future.

Unlike Bullis, they are not going go out out and "buy" a team or bring in a bunch of ringers to win a championship.

No, they choose to build buildings they can't afford and wallow in debt. And if you look at the basketball and football team, they have "bought" plenty of players. What hypocrisy. Prep will be 4th, and will be dominated by Gonzaga once again.

[Anonymous]

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Long time followe of HS lacrosse in this area, I don’t think you can go wrong with either Landon or GP. Both have a very long history of sending kids to top notch D1 programs and NESCAC schools (Landon probably has the slight edge in this category)

As a parent whose son went through this entire process less than 5 years ago, if you are truly judging on where to send your son for HS based on whether or not he can make varsosty as a freshman or a sophomore then you should really reevaluate why your son is even playing the sport . If you are worried about playing time as a freshman or sophomore then drop this notion your son is some lax super star simply because he plays on a power club team (crabs, VLC, Mad Lax etc etc). Club coaches have gradually lost their influence with college coaches as a result of the new recruiting legislation passed last year.

The sport is growing fast and it’s becoming increaseley harder to play both D1 and D3. The number of D1 programs adding the sport is not keeping up with the pace of new kids trying out the sport for the first time .

If you son is competitive and willing to work hard, I would trust your sons HS coach who actually knows your boy both in the classroom and in the playing field. Most of these club coaches or simply lax junkies trying to make a dollar.

Great post! Thank you!

Not a great post. Same guy who keeps posting how HS is more important than club in recruiting, which is a complete lie. College coaches rely on the club coach than the HS one. Not even close.

[Anonymous]

College Coaches almost had to rely on club coaches more for the past 5 years ago when Colleges were committing 14 and 15 year old boys who had yet to even take a rep at a varsisty practice or play a meaningful minute on varsity. The recruiting proccesss up until this year was a complete joke.

Fast forward to today, college coaches can’t commit kids prior to them entering their junior year of HS. As a result of this change, colleges will take their time to evualate prospecticd playeee and will solicit input from HS coaches. Under the previous rules they couldn’t rely on HS coaches input because half the times college were making offers to kids who weren’t even on the varsisty rosters yet alone the varsisty coaches had never even coached the kid.

Let me ask you this.... who do you think a college coach would listen to in this situation . A club coach who is hyping his own player up because he happens to be on the roster of that stellar 2020 Club team or the HS coach who happens to watch the kid 6x a week in practice and happens to have visibility of the kids work ethic in the classroom.

[Anonymous]

Gonzaga is still getting the best from Mater Dei.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:College Coaches almost had to rely on club coaches more for the past 5 years ago when Colleges were committing 14 and 15 year old boys who had yet to even take a rep at a varsisty practice or play a meaningful minute on varsity. The recruiting proccesss up until this year was a complete joke.

Fast forward to today, college coaches can’t commit kids prior to them entering their junior year of HS. As a result of this change, colleges will take their time to evualate prospecticd playeee and will solicit input from HS coaches. Under the previous rules they couldn’t rely on HS coaches input because half the times college were making offers to kids who weren’t even on the varsisty rosters yet alone the varsisty coaches had never even coached the kid.

Let me ask you this.... who do you think a college coach would listen to in this situation . A club coach who is hyping his own player up because he happens to be on the roster of that stellar 2020 Club team or the HS coach who happens to watch the kid 6x a week in practice and happens to have visibility of the kids work ethic in the classroom.

The high school coach, hands down. Your analysis is spot-on but your typing/spelling bites, dude.