Private School Lacrosse Thread

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Sorry was on my cell phone

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Talent wise, they are far behind Landon, Bullis and SSSA this year.

Fake news! GP had a new coaching staff last year, they will be significantly better this Spring

Also, Mater Dei pipeline has shifted back in Prep's favor for three years now. They have a huge pipeline in their current freshman and sophomore classes to keep them competitive in the near future.

Unlike Bullis, they are not going go out out and "buy" a team or bring in a bunch of ringers to win a championship.

Prep had a new coach a few years prior (with little success) and Prep has lost its ability to intimidate with it's 2nd coach in 3 years. Their offense is stagnant and the defense stature is based on 8th grade evaluations.
I don't believe Bullis "buys" a team: more likely players see an opportunity to play and win a championship. SSSA has quality players also, but a coaching change has led to players to leave.
Landon is very good but expect a decline in talent with a loss of their coach and a minor power struggle on naming the new coach.

Let the games begin in 2018. We will sort this out soon enough.

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Anonymous wrote:

Talent wise, they are far behind Landon, Bullis and SSSA this year.

Fake news! GP had a new coaching staff last year, they will be significantly better this Spring

Also, Mater Dei pipeline has shifted back in Prep's favor for three years now. They have a huge pipeline in their current freshman and sophomore classes to keep them competitive in the near future.

Unlike Bullis, they are not going go out out and "buy" a team or bring in a bunch of ringers to win a championship.

No, they choose to build buildings they can't afford and wallow in debt. And if you look at the basketball and football team, they have "bought" plenty of players. What hypocrisy. Prep will be 4th, and will be dominated by Gonzaga once again.

Everybody knows the difference between a "program" where players are developed over 4 years (Gonzaga, Prep and Landon) versus a "1 yr and done or 2 yrs and done" system where transfers drive the bulk of the team which is how Bullis does business. Most IAC schools attract kids that want the academics, sports and bonding at the same HS for 4 yrs and that is the culture. Yes, there are a few transfers into every school every year, but that is the EXCEPTION with most schools...with Bullis aggressive recruiting of transfers is a STRATEGY (see IMG)...who else brings in large numbers of kids for a single year or even semester?? What msg does that send to the parents and the kids who have been in the program since they were freshmen, likely paying full boat?? Not a good one.

Also, Landon and Prep have a ton of young talent relative to Gonzaga so tap your brakes on that my friend

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Anonymous wrote:An earlier post says there is a new there a new coach at STA? As far as I know, it's the same varsity coach from last year? or is the new coach a jv coach? I looked online but didn't see any information except about last season. thanks

Same as last year.

To PP and others who know ST Albans lacrosse...My son is a devoted and strong lacrosse player. We are looking at Landon, Prep, ST Albans and Gonzaga. My son's club coach said that we should consider the fact that ST Albans is not a lacrosse powerhouse to be a positive. In other words, my son would have a much better chance at making varsity as a freshman and start as early as sophomore year. He says that the club will be the center of college recruitment anyway, and the recruitment timeline has been moved back, so getting in with STA, making varsity earlier, getting substantial amount of playing time earlier, and starting earlier are things that are more important than playing for the winner of the conference.

What do you think of the coach's advice? Historically, do freshmen make STA varsity lacrosse? Obviously academics are important, but lacrosse can tip the scales as we've been impressed by each of these schools and think our son could do well at any one academically and socially.

I follow IAC lacrosse closely, and am directly involved with the club scene. Last year, 3 freshmen made varsity for saint albans. 2 played club, both for next level. The year before, 2 made it, both played for a VA club. This year I know of 2 boys who should make it, both play for clubs other than next level. As one of the next level directors is now also an assistant coach at saint albans, I can see him pushing his 2021 next level players to play varsity. Probably a good idea to bring up more than a few freshmen as the 2018 team should be able to build on the relative success of last season and take it to the next level in the rebuilding year for the team.

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Anonymous wrote:An earlier post says there is a new there a new coach at STA? As far as I know, it's the same varsity coach from last year? or is the new coach a jv coach? I looked online but didn't see any information except about last season. thanks

Same as last year.

To PP and others who know ST Albans lacrosse...My son is a devoted and strong lacrosse player. We are looking at Landon, Prep, ST Albans and Gonzaga. My son's club coach said that we should consider the fact that ST Albans is not a lacrosse powerhouse to be a positive. In other words, my son would have a much better chance at making varsity as a freshman and start as early as sophomore year. He says that the club will be the center of college recruitment anyway, and the recruitment timeline has been moved back, so getting in with STA, making varsity earlier, getting substantial amount of playing time earlier, and starting earlier are things that are more important than playing for the winner of the conference.

What do you think of the coach's advice? Historically, do freshmen make STA varsity lacrosse? Obviously academics are important, but lacrosse can tip the scales as we've been impressed by each of these schools and think our son could do well at any one academically and socially.

I follow IAC lacrosse closely, and am directly involved with the club scene. Last year, 3 freshmen made varsity for saint albans. 2 played club, both for next level. The year before, 2 made it, both played for a VA club. This year I know of 2 boys who should make it, both play for clubs other than next level. As one of the next level directors is now also an assistant coach at saint albans, I can see him pushing his 2021 next level players to play varsity. Probably a good idea to bring up more than a few freshmen as the 2018 team should be able to build on the relative success of last season and take it to the next level in the rebuilding year for the team.

Someone said St. Albans going down and St. Andrews going up? Simply not true. St. Albans finished tied with SSSA and Prep last year in the IAC and hosted a home playoff game for the first time in years. They just hired a new assistant coach who plays in the MLL. They have more club lacrosse players on their roster than they have had in the past 5 years. And your son will get to play all the best teams in DC by virtue of being in the IAC. And, best I can tell, no one can make a living in lacrosse after college. So do you want your son's high school diploma to say STA or Gonzaga? Pretty easy choice.

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Anonymous wrote:An earlier post says there is a new there a new coach at STA? As far as I know, it's the same varsity coach from last year? or is the new coach a jv coach? I looked online but didn't see any information except about last season. thanks

Same as last year.

To PP and others who know ST Albans lacrosse...My son is a devoted and strong lacrosse player. We are looking at Landon, Prep, ST Albans and Gonzaga. My son's club coach said that we should consider the fact that ST Albans is not a lacrosse powerhouse to be a positive. In other words, my son would have a much better chance at making varsity as a freshman and start as early as sophomore year. He says that the club will be the center of college recruitment anyway, and the recruitment timeline has been moved back, so getting in with STA, making varsity earlier, getting substantial amount of playing time earlier, and starting earlier are things that are more important than playing for the winner of the conference.

What do you think of the coach's advice? Historically, do freshmen make STA varsity lacrosse? Obviously academics are important, but lacrosse can tip the scales as we've been impressed by each of these schools and think our son could do well at any one academically and socially.

I follow IAC lacrosse closely, and am directly involved with the club scene. Last year, 3 freshmen made varsity for saint albans. 2 played club, both for next level. The year before, 2 made it, both played for a VA club. This year I know of 2 boys who should make it, both play for clubs other than next level. As one of the next level directors is now also an assistant coach at saint albans, I can see him pushing his 2021 next level players to play varsity. Probably a good idea to bring up more than a few freshmen as the 2018 team should be able to build on the relative success of last season and take it to the next level in the rebuilding year for the team.

Someone said St. Albans going down and St. Andrews going up? Simply not true. St. Albans finished tied with SSSA and Prep last year in the IAC and hosted a home playoff game for the first time in years. They just hired a new assistant coach who plays in the MLL. They have more club lacrosse players on their roster than they have had in the past 5 years. And your son will get to play all the best teams in DC by virtue of being in the IAC. And, best I can tell, no one can make a living in lacrosse after college. So do you want your son's high school diploma to say STA or Gonzaga? Pretty easy choice.

I am not the poster you allude to. I also do not dispute that St. Albans had, for them, a great year last year. They should do just fine this year with their talented FOGO and rapid fire offense. But St Andrews is actively and aggressively recruiting. I have direct knowledge of this. That's why they are on an upward trajectory. St Albans is notorious for not recruiting. Therein lies the difference. St Andrews will be a name brand lacrosse school within 5 years. St Albans will always have their sterling reputation, but it won't be for lacrosse.

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Actually I'm more impressed with a Gonzaga degree. I feel the young men are more well rounded physically and spiritually. Their Jesuit education and exposure to high level competition physically sets them up for a more successful life in my opinion.

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Anonymous wrote:An earlier post says there is a new there a new coach at STA? As far as I know, it's the same varsity coach from last year? or is the new coach a jv coach? I looked online but didn't see any information except about last season. thanks

Same as last year.

To PP and others who know ST Albans lacrosse...My son is a devoted and strong lacrosse player. We are looking at Landon, Prep, ST Albans and Gonzaga. My son's club coach said that we should consider the fact that ST Albans is not a lacrosse powerhouse to be a positive. In other words, my son would have a much better chance at making varsity as a freshman and start as early as sophomore year. He says that the club will be the center of college recruitment anyway, and the recruitment timeline has been moved back, so getting in with STA, making varsity earlier, getting substantial amount of playing time earlier, and starting earlier are things that are more important than playing for the winner of the conference.

What do you think of the coach's advice? Historically, do freshmen make STA varsity lacrosse? Obviously academics are important, but lacrosse can tip the scales as we've been impressed by each of these schools and think our son could do well at any one academically and socially.

I follow IAC lacrosse closely, and am directly involved with the club scene. Last year, 3 freshmen made varsity for saint albans. 2 played club, both for next level. The year before, 2 made it, both played for a VA club. This year I know of 2 boys who should make it, both play for clubs other than next level. As one of the next level directors is now also an assistant coach at saint albans, I can see him pushing his 2021 next level players to play varsity. Probably a good idea to bring up more than a few freshmen as the 2018 team should be able to build on the relative success of last season and take it to the next level in the rebuilding year for the team.

Someone said St. Albans going down and St. Andrews going up? Simply not true. St. Albans finished tied with SSSA and Prep last year in the IAC and hosted a home playoff game for the first time in years. They just hired a new assistant coach who plays in the MLL. They have more club lacrosse players on their roster than they have had in the past 5 years. And your son will get to play all the best teams in DC by virtue of being in the IAC. And, best I can tell, no one can make a living in lacrosse after college. So do you want your son's high school diploma to say STA or Gonzaga? Pretty easy choice.

I am not the poster you allude to. I also do not dispute that St. Albans had, for them, a great year last year. They should do just fine this year with their talented FOGO and rapid fire offense. But St Andrews is actively and aggressively recruiting. I have direct knowledge of this. That's why they are on an upward trajectory. St Albans is notorious for not recruiting. Therein lies the difference. St Andrews will be a name brand lacrosse school within 5 years. St Albans will always have their sterling reputation, but it won't be for lacrosse.

I think many are okay with that, as lax culture can change the culture of a school. There have already been numerous behavioral issues with a growing group of lax players in the middle school. If a grade has this reputation it could prevent future good applicants from attending STA. STA is a great school whether they win lax IAC.
or not.

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Anonymous wrote:Actually I'm more impressed with a Gonzaga degree. I feel the young men are more well rounded physically and spiritually. Their Jesuit education and exposure to high level competition physically sets them up for a more successful life in my opinion.

I am impressed by a Gonzaga, Prep, St Albans, and yes...even a Landon degree. You dads and moms can go back and forth on this until the cows come home, but all provide an excellent education, prepare them for college and life, produce polite and well mannered young men who want to make a difference and will make a difference. And there is something about the all-boys environment that creates bonds that last a lifetime.

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Anonymous wrote:Actually I'm more impressed with a Gonzaga degree. I feel the young men are more well rounded physically and spiritually. Their Jesuit education and exposure to high level competition physically sets them up for a more successful life in my opinion.

You don’t need to compete physically to be succcessful in life. Many many successful men and women who never participated in sports.

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Anonymous wrote:Actually I'm more impressed with a Gonzaga degree. I feel the young men are more well rounded physically and spiritually. Their Jesuit education and exposure to high level competition physically sets them up for a more successful life in my opinion.

Yes. To go to any college (family doesn't care), come back, get a job in commercial real estate, have dad set you up with a junior membership at Congressional or Columbia Country Club, have kids, scream like a maniac at CYO basketball games and club lacrosse games, then burst with pride when your son goes to Gonzaga so that you can put that bumper stick on the car.

Wash, rinse, repeat.

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Anonymous wrote:Actually I'm more impressed with a Gonzaga degree. I feel the young men are more well rounded physically and spiritually. Their Jesuit education and exposure to high level competition physically sets them up for a more successful life in my opinion.

I am impressed by a Gonzaga, Prep, St Albans, and yes...even a Landon degree. You dads and moms can go back and forth on this until the cows come home, but all provide an excellent education, prepare them for college and life, produce polite and well mannered young men who want to make a difference and will make a difference. And there is something about the all-boys environment that creates bonds that last a lifetime.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:College Coaches almost had to rely on club coaches more for the past 5 years ago when Colleges were committing 14 and 15 year old boys who had yet to even take a rep at a varsisty practice or play a meaningful minute on varsity. The recruiting proccesss up until this year was a complete joke.

Fast forward to today, college coaches can’t commit kids prior to them entering their junior year of HS. As a result of this change, colleges will take their time to evualate prospecticd playeee and will solicit input from HS coaches. Under the previous rules they couldn’t rely on HS coaches input because half the times college were making offers to kids who weren’t even on the varsisty rosters yet alone the varsisty coaches had never even coached the kid.

Let me ask you this.... who do you think a college coach would listen to in this situation . A club coach who is hyping his own player up because he happens to be on the roster of that stellar 2020 Club team or the HS coach who happens to watch the kid 6x a week in practice and happens to have visibility of the kids work ethic in the classroom.

Do they listen to someone like Bordley? Yes. A handful of HS have coaches and staffs that command a lot of attention. But these recruiters don't have any interest in 99% of the schools, especially the public ones. They make assessments at summer/fall recruiting team/individual events, and then follow up with club coaches.

The new rules are great, but they are not supporting your bizarre agenda.

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LOL. Landon and Prep are recruiting like crazy (especially Prep because Mater Dei kids have been siding with Gonzaga for 6 years).

The private MS programs have declined because more kids are waiting until HS to go private. LOL.

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Anonymous wrote:An earlier post says there is a new there a new coach at STA? As far as I know, it's the same varsity coach from last year? or is the new coach a jv coach? I looked online but didn't see any information except about last season. thanks

Same as last year.

To PP and others who know ST Albans lacrosse...My son is a devoted and strong lacrosse player. We are looking at Landon, Prep, ST Albans and Gonzaga. My son's club coach said that we should consider the fact that ST Albans is not a lacrosse powerhouse to be a positive. In other words, my son would have a much better chance at making varsity as a freshman and start as early as sophomore year. He says that the club will be the center of college recruitment anyway, and the recruitment timeline has been moved back, so getting in with STA, making varsity earlier, getting substantial amount of playing time earlier, and starting earlier are things that are more important than playing for the winner of the conference.

What do you think of the coach's advice? Historically, do freshmen make STA varsity lacrosse? Obviously academics are important, but lacrosse can tip the scales as we've been impressed by each of these schools and think our son could do well at any one academically and socially.

I follow IAC lacrosse closely, and am directly involved with the club scene. Last year, 3 freshmen made varsity for saint albans. 2 played club, both for next level. The year before, 2 made it, both played for a VA club. This year I know of 2 boys who should make it, both play for clubs other than next level. As one of the next level directors is now also an assistant coach at saint albans, I can see him pushing his 2021 next level players to play varsity. Probably a good idea to bring up more than a few freshmen as the 2018 team should be able to build on the relative success of last season and take it to the next level in the rebuilding year for the team.

Someone said St. Albans going down and St. Andrews going up? Simply not true. St. Albans finished tied with SSSA and Prep last year in the IAC and hosted a home playoff game for the first time in years. They just hired a new assistant coach who plays in the MLL. They have more club lacrosse players on their roster than they have had in the past 5 years. And your son will get to play all the best teams in DC by virtue of being in the IAC. And, best I can tell, no one can make a living in lacrosse after college. So do you want your son's high school diploma to say STA or Gonzaga? Pretty easy choice.

STA dad or mom, thanks for the post. Good stuff, apart from your unfair swipe at Gonzaga. Especially happy to hear club lacrosse player representation is increasing. My lacrosse playing son graduated a few years ago. I was disheartened to see only 2 or 3 boys in each grade playing for a club team. It sounded hollow when parents complained about the school not being committed to building back up the lacrosse program, when in fact, the players were not all in, as evidenced by only a relative few playing for the clubs.