What is the earliest age you would buy condoms for your son?

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Anonymous wrote:I only have girls (14, 16) and I purchase condoms and leave them in the bathroom under the counter. They should always have 2 on them. Give them to friends too. It shouldn’t be just the guy’s responsibility. They also carry Narcan. Does that mean I am ok with them being around drugs?

I mean, yes, it does. What do you think it means?

You're crazy. I've shown my goody-two-shoes kids how to administer Narcan if they should ever be in that position as well as telling them how to do CPR and use a defibrillator. It's that kind of world now.

Do you have nicotine patches in case they get hooked on cigarettes or tobacco vapes and need them?

Do you have suboxone just in case they become addicted to opioids?

If yes, then your logic with condoms and Narcan is consistent.

If not, ask yourself why you’re stocking condoms and Narcan, even though you insist you’re not encouraging adolescent sex and drug use, just in case but not those other items, just in case.

You don't get the situation out there. I don't have too much experience with the condom issue but it is irresponsible for you to pontify about Narcan. Sounds like you are one of those 60 year olds who like to post on this forum or a mom of a little kid, you seem so out of touch.

Try again. I have a 16 year old son. My stance on sex and drugs is clear. We’ve had a lot of conversations with him about why we hold those stances and our expectations of him.

If he chooses to disobey and deviate from that despite that understanding, then that is his choice and the consequences are on him. But he can’t say he made those choices because he thought it was ok with us.

By supplying your kids with a steady supply of condoms and Narcan, you ARE normalizing that behavior, whether you want to acknowledge that or not.

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If the child is mature enough to make his own choices (like having sex or using drugs), then he is also mature enough to accept the responsibility for those choices.

It would be irresponsible not to talk with your kids about sex, drugs, alcohol, etc. but that does not mean that supplying them with the implements (and tacit approval) to engage in these activities is responsible.

PP you're quoting and that is 100% how we roll! We TALK, openly, about sex, drugs, alcohol, crime, etc.

Am I 100% sure he won't dabble in those things DESPITE our conversations? Of course not. Does that mean it's my obligation to supply condoms, Narcan, Goody's Hangover, etc. "just in case" and still argue till I'm blue in the face that my providing those things is not encouraging that behavior? No.

My parents didn't know anything my sex life when I was teen and I don't need the nitty gritty details of my son's. We have honest conversations about the risks, the consequences and what it means to take those risks. If I were to find out that he was using drugs, I would be INCREDIBLY UPSET and DISAPPOINTED. Because I know he knows better. That's how parents SHOULD be: Boundary establishers, not enablers.

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Anonymous wrote:I only have girls (14, 16) and I purchase condoms and leave them in the bathroom under the counter. They should always have 2 on them. Give them to friends too. It shouldn’t be just the guy’s responsibility. They also carry Narcan. Does that mean I am ok with them being around drugs?

I mean, yes, it does. What do you think it means?

You're crazy. I've shown my goody-two-shoes kids how to administer Narcan if they should ever be in that position as well as telling them how to do CPR and use a defibrillator. It's that kind of world now.

Do you have nicotine patches in case they get hooked on cigarettes or tobacco vapes and need them?

Do you have suboxone just in case they become addicted to opioids?

If yes, then your logic with condoms and Narcan is consistent.

If not, ask yourself why you’re stocking condoms and Narcan, even though you insist you’re not encouraging adolescent sex and drug use, just in case but not those other items, just in case.

You don't get the situation out there. I don't have too much experience with the condom issue but it is irresponsible for you to pontify about Narcan. Sounds like you are one of those 60 year olds who like to post on this forum or a mom of a little kid, you seem so out of touch.

Try again. I have a 16 year old son. My stance on sex and drugs is clear. We’ve had a lot of conversations with him about why we hold those stances and our expectations of him.

If he chooses to disobey and deviate from that despite that understanding, then that is his choice and the consequences are on him. But he can’t say he made those choices because he thought it was ok with us.

By supplying your kids with a steady supply of condoms and Narcan, you ARE normalizing that behavior, whether you want to acknowledge that or not.

+1

If the child is mature enough to make his own choices (like having sex or using drugs), then he is also mature enough to accept the responsibility for those choices.

It would be irresponsible not to talk with your kids about sex, drugs, alcohol, etc. but that does not mean that supplying them with the implements (and tacit approval) to engage in these activities is responsible.

So if your kid decides to have sex and gets pregnant, she’s on her own? Or if she takes drugs and no one has narcan and she dies - you’re just gonna say “oh well! She chose to do drugs - thems the breaks!” and move on with your day?

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Anonymous wrote:I only have girls (14, 16) and I purchase condoms and leave them in the bathroom under the counter. They should always have 2 on them. Give them to friends too. It shouldn’t be just the guy’s responsibility. They also carry Narcan. Does that mean I am ok with them being around drugs?

I mean, yes, it does. What do you think it means?

You're crazy. I've shown my goody-two-shoes kids how to administer Narcan if they should ever be in that position as well as telling them how to do CPR and use a defibrillator. It's that kind of world now.

Do you have nicotine patches in case they get hooked on cigarettes or tobacco vapes and need them?

Do you have suboxone just in case they become addicted to opioids?

If yes, then your logic with condoms and Narcan is consistent.

If not, ask yourself why you’re stocking condoms and Narcan, even though you insist you’re not encouraging adolescent sex and drug use, just in case but not those other items, just in case.

You don't get the situation out there. I don't have too much experience with the condom issue but it is irresponsible for you to pontify about Narcan. Sounds like you are one of those 60 year olds who like to post on this forum or a mom of a little kid, you seem so out of touch.

Try again. I have a 16 year old son. My stance on sex and drugs is clear. We’ve had a lot of conversations with him about why we hold those stances and our expectations of him.

If he chooses to disobey and deviate from that despite that understanding, then that is his choice and the consequences are on him. But he can’t say he made those choices because he thought it was ok with us.

By supplying your kids with a steady supply of condoms and Narcan, you ARE normalizing that behavior, whether you want to acknowledge that or not.

+1

If the child is mature enough to make his own choices (like having sex or using drugs), then he is also mature enough to accept the responsibility for those choices.

It would be irresponsible not to talk with your kids about sex, drugs, alcohol, etc. but that does not mean that supplying them with the implements (and tacit approval) to engage in these activities is responsible.

So if your kid decides to have sex and gets pregnant, she’s on her own? Or if she takes drugs and no one has narcan and she dies - you’re just gonna say “oh well! She chose to do drugs - thems the breaks!” and move on with your day?

If your kid has sex and gets pregnant, she's not on her own per se but now there's a consequence: To keep the baby or have an abortion. There will be hefty psychological and emotional consequences with either decision. You can't save her from that, mom.

If she takes drugs and dies, that is NOT your fault. You as the parent do not bear responsibility for your child's poor choice. Would you tell a parent whose child died by suicide that their child's decision to take their own life was their fault? Of course not. A drug overdose is no different.

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Anonymous wrote:I only have girls (14, 16) and I purchase condoms and leave them in the bathroom under the counter. They should always have 2 on them. Give them to friends too. It shouldn’t be just the guy’s responsibility. They also carry Narcan. Does that mean I am ok with them being around drugs?

I mean, yes, it does. What do you think it means?

You're crazy. I've shown my goody-two-shoes kids how to administer Narcan if they should ever be in that position as well as telling them how to do CPR and use a defibrillator. It's that kind of world now.

Do you have nicotine patches in case they get hooked on cigarettes or tobacco vapes and need them?

Do you have suboxone just in case they become addicted to opioids?

If yes, then your logic with condoms and Narcan is consistent.

If not, ask yourself why you’re stocking condoms and Narcan, even though you insist you’re not encouraging adolescent sex and drug use, just in case but not those other items, just in case.

You don't get the situation out there. I don't have too much experience with the condom issue but it is irresponsible for you to pontify about Narcan. Sounds like you are one of those 60 year olds who like to post on this forum or a mom of a little kid, you seem so out of touch.

Try again. I have a 16 year old son. My stance on sex and drugs is clear. We’ve had a lot of conversations with him about why we hold those stances and our expectations of him.

If he chooses to disobey and deviate from that despite that understanding, then that is his choice and the consequences are on him. But he can’t say he made those choices because he thought it was ok with us.

By supplying your kids with a steady supply of condoms and Narcan, you ARE normalizing that behavior, whether you want to acknowledge that or not.

+1

If the child is mature enough to make his own choices (like having sex or using drugs), then he is also mature enough to accept the responsibility for those choices.

It would be irresponsible not to talk with your kids about sex, drugs, alcohol, etc. but that does not mean that supplying them with the implements (and tacit approval) to engage in these activities is responsible.

So if your kid decides to have sex and gets pregnant, she’s on her own? Or if she takes drugs and no one has narcan and she dies - you’re just gonna say “oh well! She chose to do drugs - thems the breaks!” and move on with your day?

If your kid has sex and gets pregnant, she's not on her own per se but now there's a consequence: To keep the baby or have an abortion. There will be hefty psychological and emotional consequences with either decision. You can't save her from that, mom.

If she takes drugs and dies, that is NOT your fault. You as the parent do not bear responsibility for your child's poor choice. Would you tell a parent whose child died by suicide that their child's decision to take their own life was their fault? Of course not. A drug overdose is no different.

Exactly. And I wonder why the PP (before you) made the bizarre insinuation that a parent who chooses not to supply their kid with Narcan wouldn’t CARE if the kid overdosed? It simply does not follow.

Is this what modern helicoptering looks like for teens? My role as a parent is to teach my kids how to make good choices. That doesn’t always guarantee that they WILL make good choices, but that freedom is part of becoming an adult.

If I have taught my older teen, to the best of my ability, that they should only have sex within a committed relationship and should procure and use protection to prevent pregnancy and STD’s, and they choose to disregard that advice, then they need to also be prepared to accept the consequences.

Similarly, if I have taught my child that actually you really should just say no to drugs, because there is a lot of risk for very little if any benefit, and they choose to do drugs anyway… I would be devastated, but ultimately that is the choice they made.

I think the toughest part of parenting is truly accepting that your kids are individuals and they are going to live their own lives and make their own choices. I think supplying them with condoms and Narcan is actually some sort of refusal to relinquish control and let them grow up. (I am not articulating this well, I realize.)

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Anonymous wrote:I only have girls (14, 16) and I purchase condoms and leave them in the bathroom under the counter. They should always have 2 on them. Give them to friends too. It shouldn’t be just the guy’s responsibility. They also carry Narcan. Does that mean I am ok with them being around drugs?

I mean, yes, it does. What do you think it means?

You're crazy. I've shown my goody-two-shoes kids how to administer Narcan if they should ever be in that position as well as telling them how to do CPR and use a defibrillator. It's that kind of world now.

Do you have nicotine patches in case they get hooked on cigarettes or tobacco vapes and need them?

Do you have suboxone just in case they become addicted to opioids?

If yes, then your logic with condoms and Narcan is consistent.

If not, ask yourself why you’re stocking condoms and Narcan, even though you insist you’re not encouraging adolescent sex and drug use, just in case but not those other items, just in case.

You don't get the situation out there. I don't have too much experience with the condom issue but it is irresponsible for you to pontify about Narcan. Sounds like you are one of those 60 year olds who like to post on this forum or a mom of a little kid, you seem so out of touch.

Try again. I have a 16 year old son. My stance on sex and drugs is clear. We’ve had a lot of conversations with him about why we hold those stances and our expectations of him.

If he chooses to disobey and deviate from that despite that understanding, then that is his choice and the consequences are on him. But he can’t say he made those choices because he thought it was ok with us.

By supplying your kids with a steady supply of condoms and Narcan, you ARE normalizing that behavior, whether you want to acknowledge that or not.

+1

If the child is mature enough to make his own choices (like having sex or using drugs), then he is also mature enough to accept the responsibility for those choices.

It would be irresponsible not to talk with your kids about sex, drugs, alcohol, etc. but that does not mean that supplying them with the implements (and tacit approval) to engage in these activities is responsible.

So if your kid decides to have sex and gets pregnant, she’s on her own? Or if she takes drugs and no one has narcan and she dies - you’re just gonna say “oh well! She chose to do drugs - thems the breaks!” and move on with your day?

If your kid has sex and gets pregnant, she's not on her own per se but now there's a consequence: To keep the baby or have an abortion. There will be hefty psychological and emotional consequences with either decision. You can't save her from that, mom.

If she takes drugs and dies, that is NOT your fault. You as the parent do not bear responsibility for your child's poor choice. Would you tell a parent whose child died by suicide that their child's decision to take their own life was their fault? Of course not. A drug overdose is no different.

Exactly. And I wonder why the PP (before you) made the bizarre insinuation that a parent who chooses not to supply their kid with Narcan wouldn’t CARE if the kid overdosed? It simply does not follow.

Is this what modern helicoptering looks like for teens? My role as a parent is to teach my kids how to make good choices. That doesn’t always guarantee that they WILL make good choices, but that freedom is part of becoming an adult.

If I have taught my older teen, to the best of my ability, that they should only have sex within a committed relationship and should procure and use protection to prevent pregnancy and STD’s, and they choose to disregard that advice, then they need to also be prepared to accept the consequences.

Similarly, if I have taught my child that actually you really should just say no to drugs, because there is a lot of risk for very little if any benefit, and they choose to do drugs anyway… I would be devastated, but ultimately that is the choice they made.

I think the toughest part of parenting is truly accepting that your kids are individuals and they are going to live their own lives and make their own choices. I think supplying them with condoms and Narcan is actually some sort of refusal to relinquish control and let them grow up. (I am not articulating this well, I realize.)

That is one bizarre statement.

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Anonymous wrote:I only have girls (14, 16) and I purchase condoms and leave them in the bathroom under the counter. They should always have 2 on them. Give them to friends too. It shouldn’t be just the guy’s responsibility. They also carry Narcan. Does that mean I am ok with them being around drugs?

I mean, yes, it does. What do you think it means?

You're crazy. I've shown my goody-two-shoes kids how to administer Narcan if they should ever be in that position as well as telling them how to do CPR and use a defibrillator. It's that kind of world now.

Do you have nicotine patches in case they get hooked on cigarettes or tobacco vapes and need them?

Do you have suboxone just in case they become addicted to opioids?

If yes, then your logic with condoms and Narcan is consistent.

If not, ask yourself why you’re stocking condoms and Narcan, even though you insist you’re not encouraging adolescent sex and drug use, just in case but not those other items, just in case.

You don't get the situation out there. I don't have too much experience with the condom issue but it is irresponsible for you to pontify about Narcan. Sounds like you are one of those 60 year olds who like to post on this forum or a mom of a little kid, you seem so out of touch.

Try again. I have a 16 year old son. My stance on sex and drugs is clear. We’ve had a lot of conversations with him about why we hold those stances and our expectations of him.

If he chooses to disobey and deviate from that despite that understanding, then that is his choice and the consequences are on him. But he can’t say he made those choices because he thought it was ok with us.

By supplying your kids with a steady supply of condoms and Narcan, you ARE normalizing that behavior, whether you want to acknowledge that or not.

+1

If the child is mature enough to make his own choices (like having sex or using drugs), then he is also mature enough to accept the responsibility for those choices.

It would be irresponsible not to talk with your kids about sex, drugs, alcohol, etc. but that does not mean that supplying them with the implements (and tacit approval) to engage in these activities is responsible.

So if your kid decides to have sex and gets pregnant, she’s on her own? Or if she takes drugs and no one has narcan and she dies - you’re just gonna say “oh well! She chose to do drugs - thems the breaks!” and move on with your day?

If your kid has sex and gets pregnant, she's not on her own per se but now there's a consequence: To keep the baby or have an abortion. There will be hefty psychological and emotional consequences with either decision. You can't save her from that, mom.

If she takes drugs and dies, that is NOT your fault. You as the parent do not bear responsibility for your child's poor choice. Would you tell a parent whose child died by suicide that their child's decision to take their own life was their fault? Of course not. A drug overdose is no different.

Sure you can. With a condom.

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Anonymous wrote:I only have girls (14, 16) and I purchase condoms and leave them in the bathroom under the counter. They should always have 2 on them. Give them to friends too. It shouldn’t be just the guy’s responsibility. They also carry Narcan. Does that mean I am ok with them being around drugs?

I mean, yes, it does. What do you think it means?

You're crazy. I've shown my goody-two-shoes kids how to administer Narcan if they should ever be in that position as well as telling them how to do CPR and use a defibrillator. It's that kind of world now.

Do you have nicotine patches in case they get hooked on cigarettes or tobacco vapes and need them?

Do you have suboxone just in case they become addicted to opioids?

If yes, then your logic with condoms and Narcan is consistent.

If not, ask yourself why you’re stocking condoms and Narcan, even though you insist you’re not encouraging adolescent sex and drug use, just in case but not those other items, just in case.

You don't get the situation out there. I don't have too much experience with the condom issue but it is irresponsible for you to pontify about Narcan. Sounds like you are one of those 60 year olds who like to post on this forum or a mom of a little kid, you seem so out of touch.

Try again. I have a 16 year old son. My stance on sex and drugs is clear. We’ve had a lot of conversations with him about why we hold those stances and our expectations of him.

If he chooses to disobey and deviate from that despite that understanding, then that is his choice and the consequences are on him. But he can’t say he made those choices because he thought it was ok with us.

By supplying your kids with a steady supply of condoms and Narcan, you ARE normalizing that behavior, whether you want to acknowledge that or not.

+1

If the child is mature enough to make his own choices (like having sex or using drugs), then he is also mature enough to accept the responsibility for those choices.

It would be irresponsible not to talk with your kids about sex, drugs, alcohol, etc. but that does not mean that supplying them with the implements (and tacit approval) to engage in these activities is responsible.

So if your kid decides to have sex and gets pregnant, she’s on her own? Or if she takes drugs and no one has narcan and she dies - you’re just gonna say “oh well! She chose to do drugs - thems the breaks!” and move on with your day?

If your kid has sex and gets pregnant, she's not on her own per se but now there's a consequence: To keep the baby or have an abortion. There will be hefty psychological and emotional consequences with either decision. You can't save her from that, mom.

If she takes drugs and dies, that is NOT your fault. You as the parent do not bear responsibility for your child's poor choice. Would you tell a parent whose child died by suicide that their child's decision to take their own life was their fault? Of course not. A drug overdose is no different.

Exactly. And I wonder why the PP (before you) made the bizarre insinuation that a parent who chooses not to supply their kid with Narcan wouldn’t CARE if the kid overdosed? It simply does not follow.

Is this what modern helicoptering looks like for teens? My role as a parent is to teach my kids how to make good choices. That doesn’t always guarantee that they WILL make good choices, but that freedom is part of becoming an adult.

If I have taught my older teen, to the best of my ability, that they should only have sex within a committed relationship and should procure and use protection to prevent pregnancy and STD’s, and they choose to disregard that advice, then they need to also be prepared to accept the consequences.

Similarly, if I have taught my child that actually you really should just say no to drugs, because there is a lot of risk for very little if any benefit, and they choose to do drugs anyway… I would be devastated, but ultimately that is the choice they made.

I think the toughest part of parenting is truly accepting that your kids are individuals and they are going to live their own lives and make their own choices. I think supplying them with condoms and Narcan is actually some sort of refusal to relinquish control and let them grow up. (I am not articulating this well, I realize.)

No, you articulated it perfectly. It is absolutely a warped way of making something they know not to be safe or good (adolscent sex, protected or otherwise, or illegal drug use) more palatable, because, well, they're doing it with parental approval AND support in the form of condoms and Narcan. It's like like letting your kid jump off the bridge because you've supplied them with a bungee cord.

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Anonymous wrote:I only have girls (14, 16) and I purchase condoms and leave them in the bathroom under the counter. They should always have 2 on them. Give them to friends too. It shouldn’t be just the guy’s responsibility. They also carry Narcan. Does that mean I am ok with them being around drugs?

I mean, yes, it does. What do you think it means?

You're crazy. I've shown my goody-two-shoes kids how to administer Narcan if they should ever be in that position as well as telling them how to do CPR and use a defibrillator. It's that kind of world now.

Do you have nicotine patches in case they get hooked on cigarettes or tobacco vapes and need them?

Do you have suboxone just in case they become addicted to opioids?

If yes, then your logic with condoms and Narcan is consistent.

If not, ask yourself why you’re stocking condoms and Narcan, even though you insist you’re not encouraging adolescent sex and drug use, just in case but not those other items, just in case.

You don't get the situation out there. I don't have too much experience with the condom issue but it is irresponsible for you to pontify about Narcan. Sounds like you are one of those 60 year olds who like to post on this forum or a mom of a little kid, you seem so out of touch.

Try again. I have a 16 year old son. My stance on sex and drugs is clear. We’ve had a lot of conversations with him about why we hold those stances and our expectations of him.

If he chooses to disobey and deviate from that despite that understanding, then that is his choice and the consequences are on him. But he can’t say he made those choices because he thought it was ok with us.

By supplying your kids with a steady supply of condoms and Narcan, you ARE normalizing that behavior, whether you want to acknowledge that or not.

+1

If the child is mature enough to make his own choices (like having sex or using drugs), then he is also mature enough to accept the responsibility for those choices.

It would be irresponsible not to talk with your kids about sex, drugs, alcohol, etc. but that does not mean that supplying them with the implements (and tacit approval) to engage in these activities is responsible.

So if your kid decides to have sex and gets pregnant, she’s on her own? Or if she takes drugs and no one has narcan and she dies - you’re just gonna say “oh well! She chose to do drugs - thems the breaks!” and move on with your day?

If your kid has sex and gets pregnant, she's not on her own per se but now there's a consequence: To keep the baby or have an abortion. There will be hefty psychological and emotional consequences with either decision. You can't save her from that, mom.

If she takes drugs and dies, that is NOT your fault. You as the parent do not bear responsibility for your child's poor choice. Would you tell a parent whose child died by suicide that their child's decision to take their own life was their fault? Of course not. A drug overdose is no different.

Sure you can. With a condom.

What if you give her the condom and she doesn't use it? Or she starts off using it and feels uncomfortable and they take it off?

Simply giving them condoms does not ensure they will use it or use it every time, as I have repeatedly stated. Especially since we're talking about teenagers, who are not well-known for being thorough and responsible when adults aren't watching.

Y'all are deluding yourselves if you think giving them condoms is the way out of this situation.

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Anonymous wrote:I only have girls (14, 16) and I purchase condoms and leave them in the bathroom under the counter. They should always have 2 on them. Give them to friends too. It shouldn’t be just the guy’s responsibility. They also carry Narcan. Does that mean I am ok with them being around drugs?

I mean, yes, it does. What do you think it means?

You're crazy. I've shown my goody-two-shoes kids how to administer Narcan if they should ever be in that position as well as telling them how to do CPR and use a defibrillator. It's that kind of world now.

Do you have nicotine patches in case they get hooked on cigarettes or tobacco vapes and need them?

Do you have suboxone just in case they become addicted to opioids?

If yes, then your logic with condoms and Narcan is consistent.

If not, ask yourself why you’re stocking condoms and Narcan, even though you insist you’re not encouraging adolescent sex and drug use, just in case but not those other items, just in case.

You don't get the situation out there. I don't have too much experience with the condom issue but it is irresponsible for you to pontify about Narcan. Sounds like you are one of those 60 year olds who like to post on this forum or a mom of a little kid, you seem so out of touch.

Try again. I have a 16 year old son. My stance on sex and drugs is clear. We’ve had a lot of conversations with him about why we hold those stances and our expectations of him.

If he chooses to disobey and deviate from that despite that understanding, then that is his choice and the consequences are on him. But he can’t say he made those choices because he thought it was ok with us.

By supplying your kids with a steady supply of condoms and Narcan, you ARE normalizing that behavior, whether you want to acknowledge that or not.

The consequences are on him? Death or a pregnant girl that is choosing to keep the baby and he has 50% custody and care as a high schooler?

The fact that you think your 16yr old son is just going to listen to you, not ever succumb to peer pressure, and always take this straight path is ridiculous. If anything, he will just be sneakier and never tell you. He will be the one getting into a car with a drunk driver instead of feeling safe enough to call you. And he isn't not going to have sex because you don't condone it and it will be unprotected. But kudos to you for great parenting!! Teens have poor frontal lobes and they don't fear much or think things thru. They make a ton of mistakes. It shouldn't mean you deal with the consequences and we won't support you. That's disgusting.

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I feel compelled to point out that my 16 year old doesn't carry narcan so he can save himself, since presumably if he ever needs it, it will be buried in his backpack and no one will think to look.

He carries it to save other people.

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Anonymous wrote:I only have girls (14, 16) and I purchase condoms and leave them in the bathroom under the counter. They should always have 2 on them. Give them to friends too. It shouldn’t be just the guy’s responsibility. They also carry Narcan. Does that mean I am ok with them being around drugs?

I mean, yes, it does. What do you think it means?

You're crazy. I've shown my goody-two-shoes kids how to administer Narcan if they should ever be in that position as well as telling them how to do CPR and use a defibrillator. It's that kind of world now.

Do you have nicotine patches in case they get hooked on cigarettes or tobacco vapes and need them?

Do you have suboxone just in case they become addicted to opioids?

If yes, then your logic with condoms and Narcan is consistent.

If not, ask yourself why you’re stocking condoms and Narcan, even though you insist you’re not encouraging adolescent sex and drug use, just in case but not those other items, just in case.

You don't get the situation out there. I don't have too much experience with the condom issue but it is irresponsible for you to pontify about Narcan. Sounds like you are one of those 60 year olds who like to post on this forum or a mom of a little kid, you seem so out of touch.

Try again. I have a 16 year old son. My stance on sex and drugs is clear. We’ve had a lot of conversations with him about why we hold those stances and our expectations of him.

If he chooses to disobey and deviate from that despite that understanding, then that is his choice and the consequences are on him. But he can’t say he made those choices because he thought it was ok with us.

By supplying your kids with a steady supply of condoms and Narcan, you ARE normalizing that behavior, whether you want to acknowledge that or not.

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If the child is mature enough to make his own choices (like having sex or using drugs), then he is also mature enough to accept the responsibility for those choices.

It would be irresponsible not to talk with your kids about sex, drugs, alcohol, etc. but that does not mean that supplying them with the implements (and tacit approval) to engage in these activities is responsible.

So if your kid decides to have sex and gets pregnant, she’s on her own? Or if she takes drugs and no one has narcan and she dies - you’re just gonna say “oh well! She chose to do drugs - thems the breaks!” and move on with your day?

If your kid has sex and gets pregnant, she's not on her own per se but now there's a consequence: To keep the baby or have an abortion. There will be hefty psychological and emotional consequences with either decision. You can't save her from that, mom.

If she takes drugs and dies, that is NOT your fault. You as the parent do not bear responsibility for your child's poor choice. Would you tell a parent whose child died by suicide that their child's decision to take their own life was their fault? Of course not. A drug overdose is no different.

Sure you can. With a condom.

What if you give her the condom and she doesn't use it? Or she starts off using it and feels uncomfortable and they take it off?

Simply giving them condoms does not ensure they will use it or use it every time, as I have repeatedly stated. Especially since we're talking about teenagers, who are not well-known for being thorough and responsible when adults aren't watching.

Y'all are deluding yourselves if you think giving them condoms is the way out of this situation.

And you’re deluding yourself if you think telling your kid “our rules say no sex until you’re an adult” will actually keep them from sneaking around and having sex.

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I have administered Narcan, epipens, and straight up epinephrine thru an IV. It can be life saving, but it certainly doesn't make anyone want to eat peanut butter, or want to overdose or want to have a heart attack.

Having a supply of Narcan is a safety measure. And having a supply of condoms is also a safety measure and it definitely doesn't mean teens are going to jump for joy when they see a condom and say, let me go find someone to have sex with. It's protection if they choose to, even after parent talks and school health talk about the mental and physical side effects of teen sex. But the fact is, most teens have sex at some point. They are horny, have a lot of peer pressure, and can be terrible decision makers.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel compelled to point out that my 16 year old doesn't carry narcan so he can save himself, since presumably if he ever needs it, it will be buried in his backpack and no one will think to look.

He carries it to save other people.

Same. My daughter carries it in her mini backpack when she goes out on the weekends.

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Anonymous wrote:I only have girls (14, 16) and I purchase condoms and leave them in the bathroom under the counter. They should always have 2 on them. Give them to friends too. It shouldn’t be just the guy’s responsibility. They also carry Narcan. Does that mean I am ok with them being around drugs?

I mean, yes, it does. What do you think it means?

You're crazy. I've shown my goody-two-shoes kids how to administer Narcan if they should ever be in that position as well as telling them how to do CPR and use a defibrillator. It's that kind of world now.

Do you have nicotine patches in case they get hooked on cigarettes or tobacco vapes and need them?

Do you have suboxone just in case they become addicted to opioids?

If yes, then your logic with condoms and Narcan is consistent.

If not, ask yourself why you’re stocking condoms and Narcan, even though you insist you’re not encouraging adolescent sex and drug use, just in case but not those other items, just in case.

You don't get the situation out there. I don't have too much experience with the condom issue but it is irresponsible for you to pontify about Narcan. Sounds like you are one of those 60 year olds who like to post on this forum or a mom of a little kid, you seem so out of touch.

Try again. I have a 16 year old son. My stance on sex and drugs is clear. We’ve had a lot of conversations with him about why we hold those stances and our expectations of him.

If he chooses to disobey and deviate from that despite that understanding, then that is his choice and the consequences are on him. But he can’t say he made those choices because he thought it was ok with us.

By supplying your kids with a steady supply of condoms and Narcan, you ARE normalizing that behavior, whether you want to acknowledge that or not.

The consequences are on him? Death or a pregnant girl that is choosing to keep the baby and he has 50% custody and care as a high schooler?

The fact that you think your 16yr old son is just going to listen to you, not ever succumb to peer pressure, and always take this straight path is ridiculous. If anything, he will just be sneakier and never tell you. He will be the one getting into a car with a drunk driver instead of feeling safe enough to call you. And he isn't not going to have sex because you don't condone it and it will be unprotected. But kudos to you for great parenting!! Teens have poor frontal lobes and they don't fear much or think things thru. They make a ton of mistakes. It shouldn't mean you deal with the consequences and we won't support you. That's disgusting.

You say this in one breath and then insist, feverishly, that your choice to supply your sons or daughters with condoms is the superior parenting choice, as if handing them the condoms is some infallible intervention that ensures they'll use it and practice safe sex exactly as you discussed. You're doing the same thing you're accusing me of.

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Anonymous wrote:I have administered Narcan, epipens, and straight up epinephrine thru an IV. It can be life saving, but it certainly doesn't make anyone want to eat peanut butter, or want to overdose or want to have a heart attack.

Having a supply of Narcan is a safety measure. And having a supply of condoms is also a safety measure and it definitely doesn't mean teens are going to jump for joy when they see a condom and say, let me go find someone to have sex with. It's protection if they choose to, even after parent talks and school health talk about the mental and physical side effects of teen sex. But the fact is, most teens have sex at some point. They are horny, have a lot of peer pressure, and can be terrible decision makers.

Promoting Narcan and the use of it makes teens cavalier about the risks of drug use. I know this because I've heard it from the security staff at my son's high school, who apprehend the same kids who use over and over again and are revived by friends with Narcan repeatedly believe this and say it out loud.

There are consequences for everything, y'all. There's no "safe" way to use drugs. Teach your kids the truth.