You are such a sad creature. You are actually hearing logic from people. And you still haven't answered about what your experience is with this. You have an 8 year old or a 30 year old kid? |
Try again. I have a 16 year old son. My stance on sex and drugs is clear. We’ve had a lot of conversations with him about why we hold those stances and our expectations of him. If he chooses to disobey and deviate from that despite that understanding, then that is his choice and the consequences are on him. But he can’t say he made those choices because he thought it was ok with us. By supplying your kids with a steady supply of condoms and Narcan, you ARE normalizing that behavior, whether you want to acknowledge that or not. |
So your that mom. Yes, I've heard you mention this. We make different parenting choices. |
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And you're THAT parent, who breathlessly insists that they AREN'T encouraging their kids to have sex and do drugs while steadily refreshing the condom and Narcan supply without question. For some reason, THAT makes sense to you. |
Dude this isn’t cheating on a test or shoplifting cheap items. This is potentially dying from an OD or becoming a teen father. In those scenarios, I’m not sure “the consequences are on him” is the flex you think it is. Your poor kid. You’re more interested in making a point to your children about who’s the boss than the safety and well being of your child. |
I agree with this if the items are supplied without the kid even asking for them. If the kid asks for them, we will have a talk and maybe I will supply them depending on age. There is something off putting about just giving your kids these items with no discussion beforehand. Like saying, I expect you to make bad choices. |
It makes sense to more than one of us. If you want to tell your kid “don’t have sex”, and then let the chips fall where they may when he does, have at it. I have managed to tell both of my kids that they’re not ready for sex, but when the time comes I will help them do it safely. If you think this is encouraging them, you don’t get the subtle nuances of the conversation. There is zero encouragement to go out and have sex. ZERO. |
Yes. This is PRECISELY where our parenting paths diverge. There is no way in HELL that I am "helping my [adolescent] kids to have sex," safely or otherwise. Period. No way. It's inappropriate and that's not my role as a parent. Even if they were grown adults, it would be grossly inappropriate for me to "help them" have sex. You people are too enmeshed and entangled with your sons. You have an Oedipal complex and it's sick. Again: If you as a parent need to supply your kids and aid them in having sex, I would argue that they are not mature and responsible enough to be engaging in that kind of activity. Sex comes with REAL, ADULT consequences. You can't shield them from that even though you think you're doing something great by supplying your son with condoms and facilitating the hook-ups by closing the door behind you and turning off the lights so your teenage son can bang his girlfriend in your living room. |
There's also more than one person in this thread who agrees with me that supplying your kids with Narcan and condoms is encouraging the behavior you say you aren't. So we're even. Some people agree with you and some people agree with me. There are clearly multiple schools of thought on this issue. |
I can agree with that. It’s just sad that the people who think that supplying condom parents are the devil and the “no way I’m supplying condoms” people are parenting the only appropriate way. |
But does your school of thought work to prevent kids from engaging in risky activity, and if they do engage, make sure they take the best precautions? I'd like to see the data because my understanding is that this kind of thinking being effective was discredited long ago. |
So you give them Narcan instead of making it clear that one pill or a few puffs of weed could literally kill them (and they should ASSUME everything is laced with fentanyl these days) so they should just… not take those pills or puffs of weed? They don’t understand how to perform a risk-vs-reward analysis? |
+1 If the child is mature enough to make his own choices (like having sex or using drugs), then he is also mature enough to accept the responsibility for those choices. It would be irresponsible not to talk with your kids about sex, drugs, alcohol, etc. but that does not mean that supplying them with the implements (and tacit approval) to engage in these activities is responsible. |