Parents of boys who became incels

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Anonymous wrote:You guys can debate ethics or profit motive all you want. But a practical result of boys/young men feeling personally disadvantaged in specific situations very likely could be resentment towards those policies, whatever their provenance. I am not saying this makes them incels or justifies red pill culture, but on a human level it is understandable to feel it is 'unfair'.

Then that’s the answer for OP. Teach your sons to be critical thinkers, who are able to move past emotional and illogical knee-jerk reactions. Feeling “personally disadvantaged” by for-profit companies acting…for-profit…is going to be a very painful way to go through life and yes absolutely will lead to resentment and bitterness, even if it isn’t targeted at women.

Somehow you think that the profit notice erases the fact that people can be “personally disadvantaged” or that it doesn’t matter somehow? That’s not critical thinking at all.

Did these boys feel individually disadvantaged by every firm that only recruited out of higher-tier colleges? They disadvantaged all 20 of them.

Did they feel individually disadvantaged by every internship at the firm that was given to the child of a donor, an executive, or a contact?

Or do they only feel disadvantaged because the firm made the choice to recruit girls as well as boys?

If they’re choosing to resent women in the context of all the other people who didn’t give them internships than no, they’re not remotely critical thinkers.

Somehow they are fine when another man gets the job they wanted; that man earned it, good for him. But a woman? How dare they! She’s not more qualified! I have a penis!! Pick me!
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This doesn’t happen with normal people. Under socialized men who perhaps are undiagnosed, maybe. 95% of men? Nope. Doesn’t happen.

Well it apparently happened to multiple men in this thread. And they blamed women for it. Idk what the percentage is, but that’s literally what this thread is about - these incel men who blame women for all their issues. These men would and DO respect men (ones they see as worthy at least). They listen to them. They pay them. This is the entire grift of red pill content.

But how many people is this IRL? The maladjusted ones aren’t exactly reproducing. The men who are within the range of normal aren’t these basement dwellers. And there’s plenty of men who are within the range of normal. You all are arguing with mental children. You can do that of course but the mental children need to get lives and face challenges head on. I have only boys and I just can’t with the whining. Life is unfair, stop whining and be better.

Only men should stop “whining” or do you say the same to feminists?

I’m the PP. If men are whining, they should stop. If women are whining, they should stop. It’s not about “men” and it certainly isn’t about “feminists.”

Everyone has their victim cards to play and they’re only hurting themselves by playing them.

Look this thread isn’t about “whining;” it’s about how do we stop the very real and growing problem of our boys turning into incels. The cure to stop this is to make a conscious effort to raise boys as true feminists.

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Anonymous wrote:You guys can debate ethics or profit motive all you want. But a practical result of boys/young men feeling personally disadvantaged in specific situations very likely could be resentment towards those policies, whatever their provenance. I am not saying this makes them incels or justifies red pill culture, but on a human level it is understandable to feel it is 'unfair'.

Then that’s the answer for OP. Teach your sons to be critical thinkers, who are able to move past emotional and illogical knee-jerk reactions. Feeling “personally disadvantaged” by for-profit companies acting…for-profit…is going to be a very painful way to go through life and yes absolutely will lead to resentment and bitterness, even if it isn’t targeted at women.

Somehow you think that the profit notice erases the fact that people can be “personally disadvantaged” or that it doesn’t matter somehow? That’s not critical thinking at all.

Did these boys feel individually disadvantaged by every firm that only recruited out of higher-tier colleges? They disadvantaged all 20 of them.

Did they feel individually disadvantaged by every internship at the firm that was given to the child of a donor, an executive, or a contact?

Or do they only feel disadvantaged because the firm made the choice to recruit girls as well as boys?

If they’re choosing to resent women in the context of all the other people who didn’t give them internships than no, they’re not remotely critical thinkers.

Somehow they are fine when another man gets the job they wanted; that man earned it, good for him. But a woman? How dare they! She’s not more qualified! I have a penis!! Pick me!
🙄

This doesn’t happen with normal people. Under socialized men who perhaps are undiagnosed, maybe. 95% of men? Nope. Doesn’t happen.

Well it apparently happened to multiple men in this thread. And they blamed women for it. Idk what the percentage is, but that’s literally what this thread is about - these incel men who blame women for all their issues. These men would and DO respect men (ones they see as worthy at least). They listen to them. They pay them. This is the entire grift of red pill content.

But how many people is this IRL? The maladjusted ones aren’t exactly reproducing. The men who are within the range of normal aren’t these basement dwellers. And there’s plenty of men who are within the range of normal. You all are arguing with mental children. You can do that of course but the mental children need to get lives and face challenges head on. I have only boys and I just can’t with the whining. Life is unfair, stop whining and be better.

Only men should stop “whining” or do you say the same to feminists?

I’m the PP. If men are whining, they should stop. If women are whining, they should stop. It’s not about “men” and it certainly isn’t about “feminists.”

Everyone has their victim cards to play and they’re only hurting themselves by playing them.

Look this thread isn’t about “whining;” it’s about how do we stop the very real and growing problem of our boys turning into incels. The cure to stop this is to make a conscious effort to raise boys as true feminists.

Boys need to be raised to be masculine. Raising them to be male feminists risks making the red pill arguments more persuasive. Men need goals to which they should work. Doing more chores for their wives won’t motivate them.

Having healthy sons starts with having a father and mother in the home to be good examples. Then is means teaching the boys what the boys should give to their families and what they should expect.

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Obviously, avoid divorce at all costs. This is a common denominator. Avoid exposure to maga, Nazi and other hate groups. Volunteer at shelters, food banks, etc so they can feel the joy of helping others and cultivate compassion.

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I'm not going to read this whole thread but how do you think that having a mom at home and private school make a boy incel proof? It seems to me that having a mom at home to take cafe of his every whim and not model a career and identity is exactly the kind of type of kid who falls into this. Private school? I don't get that. Good school is enough.

I would think that a kid with solid parental involvement, a healthly social scene including boys and girls (not dating necessarily), and models of successful adult lives, careers, romances, hobbies is the best case scenario.

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Anonymous wrote:You guys can debate ethics or profit motive all you want. But a practical result of boys/young men feeling personally disadvantaged in specific situations very likely could be resentment towards those policies, whatever their provenance. I am not saying this makes them incels or justifies red pill culture, but on a human level it is understandable to feel it is 'unfair'.

Then that’s the answer for OP. Teach your sons to be critical thinkers, who are able to move past emotional and illogical knee-jerk reactions. Feeling “personally disadvantaged” by for-profit companies acting…for-profit…is going to be a very painful way to go through life and yes absolutely will lead to resentment and bitterness, even if it isn’t targeted at women.

Somehow you think that the profit notice erases the fact that people can be “personally disadvantaged” or that it doesn’t matter somehow? That’s not critical thinking at all.

Did these boys feel individually disadvantaged by every firm that only recruited out of higher-tier colleges? They disadvantaged all 20 of them.

Did they feel individually disadvantaged by every internship at the firm that was given to the child of a donor, an executive, or a contact?

Or do they only feel disadvantaged because the firm made the choice to recruit girls as well as boys?

If they’re choosing to resent women in the context of all the other people who didn’t give them internships than no, they’re not remotely critical thinkers.

Somehow they are fine when another man gets the job they wanted; that man earned it, good for him. But a woman? How dare they! She’s not more qualified! I have a penis!! Pick me!
🙄

This doesn’t happen with normal people. Under socialized men who perhaps are undiagnosed, maybe. 95% of men? Nope. Doesn’t happen.

Well it apparently happened to multiple men in this thread. And they blamed women for it. Idk what the percentage is, but that’s literally what this thread is about - these incel men who blame women for all their issues. These men would and DO respect men (ones they see as worthy at least). They listen to them. They pay them. This is the entire grift of red pill content.

But how many people is this IRL? The maladjusted ones aren’t exactly reproducing. The men who are within the range of normal aren’t these basement dwellers. And there’s plenty of men who are within the range of normal. You all are arguing with mental children. You can do that of course but the mental children need to get lives and face challenges head on. I have only boys and I just can’t with the whining. Life is unfair, stop whining and be better.

Only men should stop “whining” or do you say the same to feminists?

I’m the PP. If men are whining, they should stop. If women are whining, they should stop. It’s not about “men” and it certainly isn’t about “feminists.”

Everyone has their victim cards to play and they’re only hurting themselves by playing them.

Look this thread isn’t about “whining;” it’s about how do we stop the very real and growing problem of our boys turning into incels. The cure to stop this is to make a conscious effort to raise boys as true feminists.

Boys need to be raised to be masculine. Raising them to be male feminists risks making the red pill arguments more persuasive. Men need goals to which they should work. Doing more chores for their wives won’t motivate them.

Having healthy sons starts with having a father and mother in the home to be good examples. Then is means teaching the boys what the boys should give to their families and what they should expect.

Doing chores IN THIER OWN house, you mean? They aren't doing chores for their wives. So sick of male chauvinists.

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Anonymous wrote:You guys can debate ethics or profit motive all you want. But a practical result of boys/young men feeling personally disadvantaged in specific situations very likely could be resentment towards those policies, whatever their provenance. I am not saying this makes them incels or justifies red pill culture, but on a human level it is understandable to feel it is 'unfair'.

Then that’s the answer for OP. Teach your sons to be critical thinkers, who are able to move past emotional and illogical knee-jerk reactions. Feeling “personally disadvantaged” by for-profit companies acting…for-profit…is going to be a very painful way to go through life and yes absolutely will lead to resentment and bitterness, even if it isn’t targeted at women.

Somehow you think that the profit notice erases the fact that people can be “personally disadvantaged” or that it doesn’t matter somehow? That’s not critical thinking at all.

Did these boys feel individually disadvantaged by every firm that only recruited out of higher-tier colleges? They disadvantaged all 20 of them.

Did they feel individually disadvantaged by every internship at the firm that was given to the child of a donor, an executive, or a contact?

Or do they only feel disadvantaged because the firm made the choice to recruit girls as well as boys?

If they’re choosing to resent women in the context of all the other people who didn’t give them internships than no, they’re not remotely critical thinkers.

Somehow they are fine when another man gets the job they wanted; that man earned it, good for him. But a woman? How dare they! She’s not more qualified! I have a penis!! Pick me!
🙄

This doesn’t happen with normal people. Under socialized men who perhaps are undiagnosed, maybe. 95% of men? Nope. Doesn’t happen.

Well it apparently happened to multiple men in this thread. And they blamed women for it. Idk what the percentage is, but that’s literally what this thread is about - these incel men who blame women for all their issues. These men would and DO respect men (ones they see as worthy at least). They listen to them. They pay them. This is the entire grift of red pill content.

But how many people is this IRL? The maladjusted ones aren’t exactly reproducing. The men who are within the range of normal aren’t these basement dwellers. And there’s plenty of men who are within the range of normal. You all are arguing with mental children. You can do that of course but the mental children need to get lives and face challenges head on. I have only boys and I just can’t with the whining. Life is unfair, stop whining and be better.

Only men should stop “whining” or do you say the same to feminists?

I’m the PP. If men are whining, they should stop. If women are whining, they should stop. It’s not about “men” and it certainly isn’t about “feminists.”

Everyone has their victim cards to play and they’re only hurting themselves by playing them.

Look this thread isn’t about “whining;” it’s about how do we stop the very real and growing problem of our boys turning into incels. The cure to stop this is to make a conscious effort to raise boys as true feminists.

Boys need to be raised to be masculine. Raising them to be male feminists risks making the red pill arguments more persuasive. Men need goals to which they should work. Doing more chores for their wives won’t motivate them.

Having healthy sons starts with having a father and mother in the home to be good examples. Then is means teaching the boys what the boys should give to their families and what they should expect.

Doing chores IN THIER OWN house, you mean? They aren't doing chores for their wives. So sick of male chauvinists.

You misunderstand. Left to their own devices, the men simply wouldn’t do many chores for themselves, let alone someone else. Men view many chores and tasks in the home as unnecessary.

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Anonymous wrote:You guys can debate ethics or profit motive all you want. But a practical result of boys/young men feeling personally disadvantaged in specific situations very likely could be resentment towards those policies, whatever their provenance. I am not saying this makes them incels or justifies red pill culture, but on a human level it is understandable to feel it is 'unfair'.

Then that’s the answer for OP. Teach your sons to be critical thinkers, who are able to move past emotional and illogical knee-jerk reactions. Feeling “personally disadvantaged” by for-profit companies acting…for-profit…is going to be a very painful way to go through life and yes absolutely will lead to resentment and bitterness, even if it isn’t targeted at women.

Somehow you think that the profit notice erases the fact that people can be “personally disadvantaged” or that it doesn’t matter somehow? That’s not critical thinking at all.

Did these boys feel individually disadvantaged by every firm that only recruited out of higher-tier colleges? They disadvantaged all 20 of them.

Did they feel individually disadvantaged by every internship at the firm that was given to the child of a donor, an executive, or a contact?

Or do they only feel disadvantaged because the firm made the choice to recruit girls as well as boys?

If they’re choosing to resent women in the context of all the other people who didn’t give them internships than no, they’re not remotely critical thinkers.

Somehow they are fine when another man gets the job they wanted; that man earned it, good for him. But a woman? How dare they! She’s not more qualified! I have a penis!! Pick me!
🙄

This doesn’t happen with normal people. Under socialized men who perhaps are undiagnosed, maybe. 95% of men? Nope. Doesn’t happen.

Well it apparently happened to multiple men in this thread. And they blamed women for it. Idk what the percentage is, but that’s literally what this thread is about - these incel men who blame women for all their issues. These men would and DO respect men (ones they see as worthy at least). They listen to them. They pay them. This is the entire grift of red pill content.

But how many people is this IRL? The maladjusted ones aren’t exactly reproducing. The men who are within the range of normal aren’t these basement dwellers. And there’s plenty of men who are within the range of normal. You all are arguing with mental children. You can do that of course but the mental children need to get lives and face challenges head on. I have only boys and I just can’t with the whining. Life is unfair, stop whining and be better.

Only men should stop “whining” or do you say the same to feminists?

I’m the PP. If men are whining, they should stop. If women are whining, they should stop. It’s not about “men” and it certainly isn’t about “feminists.”

Everyone has their victim cards to play and they’re only hurting themselves by playing them.

Look this thread isn’t about “whining;” it’s about how do we stop the very real and growing problem of our boys turning into incels. The cure to stop this is to make a conscious effort to raise boys as true feminists.

Boys need to be raised to be masculine. Raising them to be male feminists risks making the red pill arguments more persuasive. Men need goals to which they should work. Doing more chores for their wives won’t motivate them.

Having healthy sons starts with having a father and mother in the home to be good examples. Then is means teaching the boys what the boys should give to their families and what they should expect.

Here is why we are f’ed. Because people believe that being masculine and being a feminist are mutually exclusive.

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Anonymous wrote:You guys can debate ethics or profit motive all you want. But a practical result of boys/young men feeling personally disadvantaged in specific situations very likely could be resentment towards those policies, whatever their provenance. I am not saying this makes them incels or justifies red pill culture, but on a human level it is understandable to feel it is 'unfair'.

Then that’s the answer for OP. Teach your sons to be critical thinkers, who are able to move past emotional and illogical knee-jerk reactions. Feeling “personally disadvantaged” by for-profit companies acting…for-profit…is going to be a very painful way to go through life and yes absolutely will lead to resentment and bitterness, even if it isn’t targeted at women.

Somehow you think that the profit notice erases the fact that people can be “personally disadvantaged” or that it doesn’t matter somehow? That’s not critical thinking at all.

Did these boys feel individually disadvantaged by every firm that only recruited out of higher-tier colleges? They disadvantaged all 20 of them.

Did they feel individually disadvantaged by every internship at the firm that was given to the child of a donor, an executive, or a contact?

Or do they only feel disadvantaged because the firm made the choice to recruit girls as well as boys?

If they’re choosing to resent women in the context of all the other people who didn’t give them internships than no, they’re not remotely critical thinkers.

Somehow they are fine when another man gets the job they wanted; that man earned it, good for him. But a woman? How dare they! She’s not more qualified! I have a penis!! Pick me!
🙄

This doesn’t happen with normal people. Under socialized men who perhaps are undiagnosed, maybe. 95% of men? Nope. Doesn’t happen.

Well it apparently happened to multiple men in this thread. And they blamed women for it. Idk what the percentage is, but that’s literally what this thread is about - these incel men who blame women for all their issues. These men would and DO respect men (ones they see as worthy at least). They listen to them. They pay them. This is the entire grift of red pill content.

But how many people is this IRL? The maladjusted ones aren’t exactly reproducing. The men who are within the range of normal aren’t these basement dwellers. And there’s plenty of men who are within the range of normal. You all are arguing with mental children. You can do that of course but the mental children need to get lives and face challenges head on. I have only boys and I just can’t with the whining. Life is unfair, stop whining and be better.

Only men should stop “whining” or do you say the same to feminists?

I’m the PP. If men are whining, they should stop. If women are whining, they should stop. It’s not about “men” and it certainly isn’t about “feminists.”

Everyone has their victim cards to play and they’re only hurting themselves by playing them.

Look this thread isn’t about “whining;” it’s about how do we stop the very real and growing problem of our boys turning into incels. The cure to stop this is to make a conscious effort to raise boys as true feminists.

Boys need to be raised to be masculine. Raising them to be male feminists risks making the red pill arguments more persuasive. Men need goals to which they should work. Doing more chores for their wives won’t motivate them.

Having healthy sons starts with having a father and mother in the home to be good examples. Then is means teaching the boys what the boys should give to their families and what they should expect.

Doing chores IN THIER OWN house, you mean? They aren't doing chores for their wives. So sick of male chauvinists.

You misunderstand. Left to their own devices, the men simply wouldn’t do many chores for themselves, let alone someone else. Men view many chores and tasks in the home as unnecessary.

BECAUSE THEIR MOTHER DID IT FOR THEM.

Being able to be a functioning adult is pretty masculine. Needing a nurse maid to wash your sheets and clean your floors just makes you a pathetic slob.

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Anonymous wrote:You guys can debate ethics or profit motive all you want. But a practical result of boys/young men feeling personally disadvantaged in specific situations very likely could be resentment towards those policies, whatever their provenance. I am not saying this makes them incels or justifies red pill culture, but on a human level it is understandable to feel it is 'unfair'.

Then that’s the answer for OP. Teach your sons to be critical thinkers, who are able to move past emotional and illogical knee-jerk reactions. Feeling “personally disadvantaged” by for-profit companies acting…for-profit…is going to be a very painful way to go through life and yes absolutely will lead to resentment and bitterness, even if it isn’t targeted at women.

Somehow you think that the profit notice erases the fact that people can be “personally disadvantaged” or that it doesn’t matter somehow? That’s not critical thinking at all.

Did these boys feel individually disadvantaged by every firm that only recruited out of higher-tier colleges? They disadvantaged all 20 of them.

Did they feel individually disadvantaged by every internship at the firm that was given to the child of a donor, an executive, or a contact?

Or do they only feel disadvantaged because the firm made the choice to recruit girls as well as boys?

If they’re choosing to resent women in the context of all the other people who didn’t give them internships than no, they’re not remotely critical thinkers.

Somehow they are fine when another man gets the job they wanted; that man earned it, good for him. But a woman? How dare they! She’s not more qualified! I have a penis!! Pick me!
🙄

This doesn’t happen with normal people. Under socialized men who perhaps are undiagnosed, maybe. 95% of men? Nope. Doesn’t happen.

Well it apparently happened to multiple men in this thread. And they blamed women for it. Idk what the percentage is, but that’s literally what this thread is about - these incel men who blame women for all their issues. These men would and DO respect men (ones they see as worthy at least). They listen to them. They pay them. This is the entire grift of red pill content.

But how many people is this IRL? The maladjusted ones aren’t exactly reproducing. The men who are within the range of normal aren’t these basement dwellers. And there’s plenty of men who are within the range of normal. You all are arguing with mental children. You can do that of course but the mental children need to get lives and face challenges head on. I have only boys and I just can’t with the whining. Life is unfair, stop whining and be better.

Only men should stop “whining” or do you say the same to feminists?

I’m the PP. If men are whining, they should stop. If women are whining, they should stop. It’s not about “men” and it certainly isn’t about “feminists.”

Everyone has their victim cards to play and they’re only hurting themselves by playing them.

Look this thread isn’t about “whining;” it’s about how do we stop the very real and growing problem of our boys turning into incels. The cure to stop this is to make a conscious effort to raise boys as true feminists.

Boys need to be raised to be masculine. Raising them to be male feminists risks making the red pill arguments more persuasive. Men need goals to which they should work. Doing more chores for their wives won’t motivate them.

Having healthy sons starts with having a father and mother in the home to be good examples. Then is means teaching the boys what the boys should give to their families and what they should expect.

Doing chores IN THIER OWN house, you mean? They aren't doing chores for their wives. So sick of male chauvinists.

You misunderstand. Left to their own devices, the men simply wouldn’t do many chores for themselves, let alone someone else. Men view many chores and tasks in the home as unnecessary.

I never saw this in my experience. When I was dating, the men were fine on their own. Reasonably tidy apartments, groceries in the kitchen, clean clothes, and cooked meals. I’m also a landlord of a single unit and often rent to men. They’re fine. Or least not significantly different than the women. Maybe the men don’t put up as much decor but they request to paint the walls as often as the women.

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Anonymous wrote:You guys can debate ethics or profit motive all you want. But a practical result of boys/young men feeling personally disadvantaged in specific situations very likely could be resentment towards those policies, whatever their provenance. I am not saying this makes them incels or justifies red pill culture, but on a human level it is understandable to feel it is 'unfair'.

Then that’s the answer for OP. Teach your sons to be critical thinkers, who are able to move past emotional and illogical knee-jerk reactions. Feeling “personally disadvantaged” by for-profit companies acting…for-profit…is going to be a very painful way to go through life and yes absolutely will lead to resentment and bitterness, even if it isn’t targeted at women.

Somehow you think that the profit notice erases the fact that people can be “personally disadvantaged” or that it doesn’t matter somehow? That’s not critical thinking at all.

Did these boys feel individually disadvantaged by every firm that only recruited out of higher-tier colleges? They disadvantaged all 20 of them.

Did they feel individually disadvantaged by every internship at the firm that was given to the child of a donor, an executive, or a contact?

Or do they only feel disadvantaged because the firm made the choice to recruit girls as well as boys?

If they’re choosing to resent women in the context of all the other people who didn’t give them internships than no, they’re not remotely critical thinkers.

Somehow they are fine when another man gets the job they wanted; that man earned it, good for him. But a woman? How dare they! She’s not more qualified! I have a penis!! Pick me!
🙄

This doesn’t happen with normal people. Under socialized men who perhaps are undiagnosed, maybe. 95% of men? Nope. Doesn’t happen.

Well it apparently happened to multiple men in this thread. And they blamed women for it. Idk what the percentage is, but that’s literally what this thread is about - these incel men who blame women for all their issues. These men would and DO respect men (ones they see as worthy at least). They listen to them. They pay them. This is the entire grift of red pill content.

But how many people is this IRL? The maladjusted ones aren’t exactly reproducing. The men who are within the range of normal aren’t these basement dwellers. And there’s plenty of men who are within the range of normal. You all are arguing with mental children. You can do that of course but the mental children need to get lives and face challenges head on. I have only boys and I just can’t with the whining. Life is unfair, stop whining and be better.

Only men should stop “whining” or do you say the same to feminists?

I’m the PP. If men are whining, they should stop. If women are whining, they should stop. It’s not about “men” and it certainly isn’t about “feminists.”

Everyone has their victim cards to play and they’re only hurting themselves by playing them.

Look this thread isn’t about “whining;” it’s about how do we stop the very real and growing problem of our boys turning into incels. The cure to stop this is to make a conscious effort to raise boys as true feminists.

Boys need to be raised to be masculine. Raising them to be male feminists risks making the red pill arguments more persuasive. Men need goals to which they should work. Doing more chores for their wives won’t motivate them.

Having healthy sons starts with having a father and mother in the home to be good examples. Then is means teaching the boys what the boys should give to their families and what they should expect.

Here is why we are f’ed. Because people believe that being masculine and being a feminist are mutually exclusive.

Men and women want different things from each other. Feminism doesn’t do a great job of acknowledging that reality. You’re welcome to explain how feminism complements masculinity from a man’s perspective. Not sure I’ve seen that case made in a compelling fashion, but maybe I don’t read broadly enough.

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Anonymous wrote:You guys can debate ethics or profit motive all you want. But a practical result of boys/young men feeling personally disadvantaged in specific situations very likely could be resentment towards those policies, whatever their provenance. I am not saying this makes them incels or justifies red pill culture, but on a human level it is understandable to feel it is 'unfair'.

Then that’s the answer for OP. Teach your sons to be critical thinkers, who are able to move past emotional and illogical knee-jerk reactions. Feeling “personally disadvantaged” by for-profit companies acting…for-profit…is going to be a very painful way to go through life and yes absolutely will lead to resentment and bitterness, even if it isn’t targeted at women.

Somehow you think that the profit notice erases the fact that people can be “personally disadvantaged” or that it doesn’t matter somehow? That’s not critical thinking at all.

Did these boys feel individually disadvantaged by every firm that only recruited out of higher-tier colleges? They disadvantaged all 20 of them.

Did they feel individually disadvantaged by every internship at the firm that was given to the child of a donor, an executive, or a contact?

Or do they only feel disadvantaged because the firm made the choice to recruit girls as well as boys?

If they’re choosing to resent women in the context of all the other people who didn’t give them internships than no, they’re not remotely critical thinkers.

Somehow they are fine when another man gets the job they wanted; that man earned it, good for him. But a woman? How dare they! She’s not more qualified! I have a penis!! Pick me!
🙄

This doesn’t happen with normal people. Under socialized men who perhaps are undiagnosed, maybe. 95% of men? Nope. Doesn’t happen.

Well it apparently happened to multiple men in this thread. And they blamed women for it. Idk what the percentage is, but that’s literally what this thread is about - these incel men who blame women for all their issues. These men would and DO respect men (ones they see as worthy at least). They listen to them. They pay them. This is the entire grift of red pill content.

But how many people is this IRL? The maladjusted ones aren’t exactly reproducing. The men who are within the range of normal aren’t these basement dwellers. And there’s plenty of men who are within the range of normal. You all are arguing with mental children. You can do that of course but the mental children need to get lives and face challenges head on. I have only boys and I just can’t with the whining. Life is unfair, stop whining and be better.

Only men should stop “whining” or do you say the same to feminists?

I’m the PP. If men are whining, they should stop. If women are whining, they should stop. It’s not about “men” and it certainly isn’t about “feminists.”

Everyone has their victim cards to play and they’re only hurting themselves by playing them.

Look this thread isn’t about “whining;” it’s about how do we stop the very real and growing problem of our boys turning into incels. The cure to stop this is to make a conscious effort to raise boys as true feminists.

Boys need to be raised to be masculine. Raising them to be male feminists risks making the red pill arguments more persuasive. Men need goals to which they should work. Doing more chores for their wives won’t motivate them.

Having healthy sons starts with having a father and mother in the home to be good examples. Then is means teaching the boys what the boys should give to their families and what they should expect.

Here is why we are f’ed. Because people believe that being masculine and being a feminist are mutually exclusive.

Men and women want different things from each other. Feminism doesn’t do a great job of acknowledging that reality. You’re welcome to explain how feminism complements masculinity from a man’s perspective. Not sure I’ve seen that case made in a compelling fashion, but maybe I don’t read broadly enough.

NP but that women want to be able to vote, autonomy over their own bodies and equal rights should not be not complementary to what men want, should it? I mean, many men want women without a voice to be subservient to them - but that doesn’t seem like what’s good for women at all, does it?

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Anonymous wrote:You guys can debate ethics or profit motive all you want. But a practical result of boys/young men feeling personally disadvantaged in specific situations very likely could be resentment towards those policies, whatever their provenance. I am not saying this makes them incels or justifies red pill culture, but on a human level it is understandable to feel it is 'unfair'.

Then that’s the answer for OP. Teach your sons to be critical thinkers, who are able to move past emotional and illogical knee-jerk reactions. Feeling “personally disadvantaged” by for-profit companies acting…for-profit…is going to be a very painful way to go through life and yes absolutely will lead to resentment and bitterness, even if it isn’t targeted at women.

Somehow you think that the profit notice erases the fact that people can be “personally disadvantaged” or that it doesn’t matter somehow? That’s not critical thinking at all.

Did these boys feel individually disadvantaged by every firm that only recruited out of higher-tier colleges? They disadvantaged all 20 of them.

Did they feel individually disadvantaged by every internship at the firm that was given to the child of a donor, an executive, or a contact?

Or do they only feel disadvantaged because the firm made the choice to recruit girls as well as boys?

If they’re choosing to resent women in the context of all the other people who didn’t give them internships than no, they’re not remotely critical thinkers.

Somehow they are fine when another man gets the job they wanted; that man earned it, good for him. But a woman? How dare they! She’s not more qualified! I have a penis!! Pick me!
🙄

This doesn’t happen with normal people. Under socialized men who perhaps are undiagnosed, maybe. 95% of men? Nope. Doesn’t happen.

Well it apparently happened to multiple men in this thread. And they blamed women for it. Idk what the percentage is, but that’s literally what this thread is about - these incel men who blame women for all their issues. These men would and DO respect men (ones they see as worthy at least). They listen to them. They pay them. This is the entire grift of red pill content.

But how many people is this IRL? The maladjusted ones aren’t exactly reproducing. The men who are within the range of normal aren’t these basement dwellers. And there’s plenty of men who are within the range of normal. You all are arguing with mental children. You can do that of course but the mental children need to get lives and face challenges head on. I have only boys and I just can’t with the whining. Life is unfair, stop whining and be better.

Only men should stop “whining” or do you say the same to feminists?

I’m the PP. If men are whining, they should stop. If women are whining, they should stop. It’s not about “men” and it certainly isn’t about “feminists.”

Everyone has their victim cards to play and they’re only hurting themselves by playing them.

Look this thread isn’t about “whining;” it’s about how do we stop the very real and growing problem of our boys turning into incels. The cure to stop this is to make a conscious effort to raise boys as true feminists.

Boys need to be raised to be masculine. Raising them to be male feminists risks making the red pill arguments more persuasive. Men need goals to which they should work. Doing more chores for their wives won’t motivate them.

Having healthy sons starts with having a father and mother in the home to be good examples. Then is means teaching the boys what the boys should give to their families and what they should expect.

Doing chores IN THIER OWN house, you mean? They aren't doing chores for their wives. So sick of male chauvinists.

You misunderstand. Left to their own devices, the men simply wouldn’t do many chores for themselves, let alone someone else. Men view many chores and tasks in the home as unnecessary.

I'll make sure to tell that to my husband who for many years raised his daughters on his own and ran a very tight ship. I think the problem is YOU.

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Anonymous wrote:You guys can debate ethics or profit motive all you want. But a practical result of boys/young men feeling personally disadvantaged in specific situations very likely could be resentment towards those policies, whatever their provenance. I am not saying this makes them incels or justifies red pill culture, but on a human level it is understandable to feel it is 'unfair'.

Then that’s the answer for OP. Teach your sons to be critical thinkers, who are able to move past emotional and illogical knee-jerk reactions. Feeling “personally disadvantaged” by for-profit companies acting…for-profit…is going to be a very painful way to go through life and yes absolutely will lead to resentment and bitterness, even if it isn’t targeted at women.

Somehow you think that the profit notice erases the fact that people can be “personally disadvantaged” or that it doesn’t matter somehow? That’s not critical thinking at all.

Did these boys feel individually disadvantaged by every firm that only recruited out of higher-tier colleges? They disadvantaged all 20 of them.

Did they feel individually disadvantaged by every internship at the firm that was given to the child of a donor, an executive, or a contact?

Or do they only feel disadvantaged because the firm made the choice to recruit girls as well as boys?

If they’re choosing to resent women in the context of all the other people who didn’t give them internships than no, they’re not remotely critical thinkers.

Somehow they are fine when another man gets the job they wanted; that man earned it, good for him. But a woman? How dare they! She’s not more qualified! I have a penis!! Pick me!
🙄

This doesn’t happen with normal people. Under socialized men who perhaps are undiagnosed, maybe. 95% of men? Nope. Doesn’t happen.

Well it apparently happened to multiple men in this thread. And they blamed women for it. Idk what the percentage is, but that’s literally what this thread is about - these incel men who blame women for all their issues. These men would and DO respect men (ones they see as worthy at least). They listen to them. They pay them. This is the entire grift of red pill content.

But how many people is this IRL? The maladjusted ones aren’t exactly reproducing. The men who are within the range of normal aren’t these basement dwellers. And there’s plenty of men who are within the range of normal. You all are arguing with mental children. You can do that of course but the mental children need to get lives and face challenges head on. I have only boys and I just can’t with the whining. Life is unfair, stop whining and be better.

Only men should stop “whining” or do you say the same to feminists?

I’m the PP. If men are whining, they should stop. If women are whining, they should stop. It’s not about “men” and it certainly isn’t about “feminists.”

Everyone has their victim cards to play and they’re only hurting themselves by playing them.

Look this thread isn’t about “whining;” it’s about how do we stop the very real and growing problem of our boys turning into incels. The cure to stop this is to make a conscious effort to raise boys as true feminists.

Boys need to be raised to be masculine. Raising them to be male feminists risks making the red pill arguments more persuasive. Men need goals to which they should work. Doing more chores for their wives won’t motivate them.

Having healthy sons starts with having a father and mother in the home to be good examples. Then is means teaching the boys what the boys should give to their families and what they should expect.

Doing chores IN THIER OWN house, you mean? They aren't doing chores for their wives. So sick of male chauvinists.

You misunderstand. Left to their own devices, the men simply wouldn’t do many chores for themselves, let alone someone else. Men view many chores and tasks in the home as unnecessary.

I'll make sure to tell that to my husband who for many years raised his daughters on his own and ran a very tight ship. I think the problem is YOU.

+1. I had a single dad but somehow he managed to clean the house and cook the meals. Shocking, I know.

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A mom at home.
Almost zero screen time.
Male and female friends, in real life.
A good education, either at home or in a private school.
Lots of fresh air every day.

If you're not doing that, you're gonna have a bad time. Bottom line.

So, no public schools are good? Wow. You seem delusional.

Creating an environment with almost no screen time does not prepare them for the world we live in.

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Anonymous wrote:You guys can debate ethics or profit motive all you want. But a practical result of boys/young men feeling personally disadvantaged in specific situations very likely could be resentment towards those policies, whatever their provenance. I am not saying this makes them incels or justifies red pill culture, but on a human level it is understandable to feel it is 'unfair'.

Then that’s the answer for OP. Teach your sons to be critical thinkers, who are able to move past emotional and illogical knee-jerk reactions. Feeling “personally disadvantaged” by for-profit companies acting…for-profit…is going to be a very painful way to go through life and yes absolutely will lead to resentment and bitterness, even if it isn’t targeted at women.

Somehow you think that the profit notice erases the fact that people can be “personally disadvantaged” or that it doesn’t matter somehow? That’s not critical thinking at all.

Did these boys feel individually disadvantaged by every firm that only recruited out of higher-tier colleges? They disadvantaged all 20 of them.

Did they feel individually disadvantaged by every internship at the firm that was given to the child of a donor, an executive, or a contact?

Or do they only feel disadvantaged because the firm made the choice to recruit girls as well as boys?

If they’re choosing to resent women in the context of all the other people who didn’t give them internships than no, they’re not remotely critical thinkers.

Somehow they are fine when another man gets the job they wanted; that man earned it, good for him. But a woman? How dare they! She’s not more qualified! I have a penis!! Pick me!
🙄

This doesn’t happen with normal people. Under socialized men who perhaps are undiagnosed, maybe. 95% of men? Nope. Doesn’t happen.

Well it apparently happened to multiple men in this thread. And they blamed women for it. Idk what the percentage is, but that’s literally what this thread is about - these incel men who blame women for all their issues. These men would and DO respect men (ones they see as worthy at least). They listen to them. They pay them. This is the entire grift of red pill content.

But how many people is this IRL? The maladjusted ones aren’t exactly reproducing. The men who are within the range of normal aren’t these basement dwellers. And there’s plenty of men who are within the range of normal. You all are arguing with mental children. You can do that of course but the mental children need to get lives and face challenges head on. I have only boys and I just can’t with the whining. Life is unfair, stop whining and be better.

Only men should stop “whining” or do you say the same to feminists?

I’m the PP. If men are whining, they should stop. If women are whining, they should stop. It’s not about “men” and it certainly isn’t about “feminists.”

Everyone has their victim cards to play and they’re only hurting themselves by playing them.

Look this thread isn’t about “whining;” it’s about how do we stop the very real and growing problem of our boys turning into incels. The cure to stop this is to make a conscious effort to raise boys as true feminists.

Hoping this is a troll, or just a clown comment, as this is the single worst thing you can do to prevent the situation OP is describing.

-- Mother of 4 boys