Women who say they aren't voting on the single issue of abortion rights

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I think this whole abortion ban will back fire. The minorities have higher birth rate, and eventually this will not be a white christian nation.

Until 2022, Republicans got votes from pro-lifers for pretending to be pro-life, while Democrats killed off their future voters.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m pro choice and will be voting blue regardless, but am I the only woman who has never worried about getting pregnant?

I remember a high school health class (in the early 90s, amid nonstop AIDS hysteria, in an urban liberal secular area) when we were asked what we feared more: pregnancy or HIV. I was the only girl out of dozens who was more concerned about the thing that could kill me.

Obviously there were points in my life when I would not have welcomed a pregnancy, but so many women seem to be in a constant state of terror over it, and I’ve simply never understood it. There are so many ways to avoid pregnancy (I remember being 23, horny but a student with big plans, and I was on birth control, used a condom, made him pull out, AND made sure it wasn’t during my ovulation window; iuds weren’t even a thing back then), and yes, of course shit sometimes happens and it’s necessary or a good idea to abort, and I think it should be accessible and safe to do so, but there’s no reason to fret over it 24/7. I feel like I missed some fundamental part of being a woman in that I didn’t spend thirty years obsessing over possibly getting pregnant.

I have a friend who died immediately after giving birth. Like 5 minutes after they put the baby on her chest.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you not have daughters? Sisters? Nieces? What will you say to them when they need a D&C because they had a miscarriage and aren't able to get one and go into septic shock? What happens when their fallopian tube ruptures due to an ectopic pregnancy and they start bleeding internally? Does nobody think about the ramifications of their actions until it affects them individually? Southern states are trying to ban abortions in all instances - rape, incest, health of the mother. Why would you let your daughters, yourself, your nieces, your sisters, go through such pain? HOW IS THIS NOT IMPORTANT TO YOU!?! Why is your money more important than your health?

A D&C is not abortion. Managing an etopic pregnancy is not abortion.

Abortion isn't healthcare, despite the new spin.

Hello low-information non-medical professional making false statements about medical terms. This is just to inform you that just because you don’t like the actual medical category for a procedure does not mean you get to change the name of it.

Abortion means the early termination of a pregnancy before a fetus can live outside the womb - whether spontaneous or medically induced by pill or surgery. Even if that pregnancy was doomed. It is an abortion. This is why miscarriages are labeled abortion in a patient’s file. Ask me how I know.

I am a medical professional. You know exactly what she meant here. Removing a dead fetus is not an elective abortion.
I see women who have had more than 10 elective abortions. I see women who refuse to start prenatal vitamins because "I'm not sure if I'm keeping it. Depends on if the father steps up." This procedure is treated glibly and without the required seriousness. I started my career fully pro-choice but I've seen too much now.

I try not to judge, I really do but back in highschool I had a friend who had 7 yes 7 elective abortions. I faded out of her life. I understand where you are coming from pp I get it.

How many pregnancies and births have you endured? You think the stork brings you a nice big bouncing healthy baby? Pregnancy and birth is difficult and bloody and things can go sideways very quickly and they do. Mind your own damn business is very good advice.

Your comment makes zero sense. They had a choice of something called "birth control" instead of 8 abortions.

If you think birth control is important then do not vote for Donald Trump. Do you have a brain or is it just like a pile of mush inside your skull?.

Do you have a brain? He hasn’t proposed banning birth control. He hasn’t proposed banning IVF either. He hasn’t even proposed a nationwide abortion ban. Harris and Democrats are saying those things to frighten women into voting for them. You are too dumb to see it. Harris knows she won’t be able to do anything for abortion rights as President, but she will use it as a wedge issue to scare dumb women like you into voting for her.

A number of Republicans added to this by supporting a national abortion ban. McConnell doesn't want MAGA people winning House and Senate seats.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m pro choice and will be voting blue regardless, but am I the only woman who has never worried about getting pregnant?

I remember a high school health class (in the early 90s, amid nonstop AIDS hysteria, in an urban liberal secular area) when we were asked what we feared more: pregnancy or HIV. I was the only girl out of dozens who was more concerned about the thing that could kill me.

Obviously there were points in my life when I would not have welcomed a pregnancy, but so many women seem to be in a constant state of terror over it, and I’ve simply never understood it. There are so many ways to avoid pregnancy (I remember being 23, horny but a student with big plans, and I was on birth control, used a condom, made him pull out, AND made sure it wasn’t during my ovulation window; iuds weren’t even a thing back then), and yes, of course shit sometimes happens and it’s necessary or a good idea to abort, and I think it should be accessible and safe to do so, but there’s no reason to fret over it 24/7. I feel like I missed some fundamental part of being a woman in that I didn’t spend thirty years obsessing over possibly getting pregnant.

Both things can kill you. For most of human history, women dying in childbirth was commonplace. It makes sense that girls feared pregnancy and childbirth more than HIV. Most of them didn’t anticipate contracting HIV, but expected to have biological children someday.

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I think people who wanted RvW overturned no longer consider this "an issue," so it is not what they are voting about. They are not going to change. It's a waste to try.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m pro choice and will be voting blue regardless, but am I the only woman who has never worried about getting pregnant?

I remember a high school health class (in the early 90s, amid nonstop AIDS hysteria, in an urban liberal secular area) when we were asked what we feared more: pregnancy or HIV. I was the only girl out of dozens who was more concerned about the thing that could kill me.

Obviously there were points in my life when I would not have welcomed a pregnancy, but so many women seem to be in a constant state of terror over it, and I’ve simply never understood it. There are so many ways to avoid pregnancy (I remember being 23, horny but a student with big plans, and I was on birth control, used a condom, made him pull out, AND made sure it wasn’t during my ovulation window; iuds weren’t even a thing back then), and yes, of course shit sometimes happens and it’s necessary or a good idea to abort, and I think it should be accessible and safe to do so, but there’s no reason to fret over it 24/7. I feel like I missed some fundamental part of being a woman in that I didn’t spend thirty years obsessing over possibly getting pregnant.

I have a friend who died immediately after giving birth. Like 5 minutes after they put the baby on her chest.

I’m sorry for your loss. I too know someone who died in childbirth. However I don’t think the large number of women in a constant state of panic over potentially getting pregnant are thinking about the possibility of dying.

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Anonymous wrote:Harris said no religious exceptions. She wants to force Catholic doctors and hospitals to perform abortions.

Good. In some places, the only hospital is unfortunately a Catholic hospital. And now that the conservatives have gotten rid of any abortion clinics, it is what it is.

Just because you are Catholic, doesn't mean the rest of us are. Leave us alone, give us a choice, and you can do what you want.

You say we can do what we want, but we do not want to kill babies.

Well no one is making *you* specifically do it.

But if you are the only hospital for hundreds of miles, you need to make sure someone on your staff will prioritize the life of a pregnant woman over whatever qualms you have about hastening the end of the dying fetus inside her. That seems like a reasonable demand of any hospital especially if it is taking state and government funds and the people living near it have no other choice. Then you need to provide the service one way or another.

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Anonymous wrote:Harris said no religious exceptions. She wants to force Catholic doctors and hospitals to perform abortions.

Good. In some places, the only hospital is unfortunately a Catholic hospital. And now that the conservatives have gotten rid of any abortion clinics, it is what it is.

Just because you are Catholic, doesn't mean the rest of us are. Leave us alone, give us a choice, and you can do what you want.

You say we can do what we want, but we do not want to kill babies.

Who’s forcing you to have an abortion or perform one on someone else?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m pro choice and will be voting blue regardless, but am I the only woman who has never worried about getting pregnant?

I remember a high school health class (in the early 90s, amid nonstop AIDS hysteria, in an urban liberal secular area) when we were asked what we feared more: pregnancy or HIV. I was the only girl out of dozens who was more concerned about the thing that could kill me.

Obviously there were points in my life when I would not have welcomed a pregnancy, but so many women seem to be in a constant state of terror over it, and I’ve simply never understood it. There are so many ways to avoid pregnancy (I remember being 23, horny but a student with big plans, and I was on birth control, used a condom, made him pull out, AND made sure it wasn’t during my ovulation window; iuds weren’t even a thing back then), and yes, of course shit sometimes happens and it’s necessary or a good idea to abort, and I think it should be accessible and safe to do so, but there’s no reason to fret over it 24/7. I feel like I missed some fundamental part of being a woman in that I didn’t spend thirty years obsessing over possibly getting pregnant.

Both things can kill you. For most of human history, women dying in childbirth was commonplace. It makes sense that girls feared pregnancy and childbirth more than HIV. Most of them didn’t anticipate contracting HIV, but expected to have biological children someday.

But this is not most of human history.
In modern day America, more women are contracting HIV than dying in childbirth.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m pro choice and will be voting blue regardless, but am I the only woman who has never worried about getting pregnant?

I remember a high school health class (in the early 90s, amid nonstop AIDS hysteria, in an urban liberal secular area) when we were asked what we feared more: pregnancy or HIV. I was the only girl out of dozens who was more concerned about the thing that could kill me.

Obviously there were points in my life when I would not have welcomed a pregnancy, but so many women seem to be in a constant state of terror over it, and I’ve simply never understood it. There are so many ways to avoid pregnancy (I remember being 23, horny but a student with big plans, and I was on birth control, used a condom, made him pull out, AND made sure it wasn’t during my ovulation window; iuds weren’t even a thing back then), and yes, of course shit sometimes happens and it’s necessary or a good idea to abort, and I think it should be accessible and safe to do so, but there’s no reason to fret over it 24/7. I feel like I missed some fundamental part of being a woman in that I didn’t spend thirty years obsessing over possibly getting pregnant.

I have a friend who died immediately after giving birth. Like 5 minutes after they put the baby on her chest.

I’m sorry for your loss. I too know someone who died in childbirth. However I don’t think the large number of women in a constant state of panic over potentially getting pregnant are thinking about the possibility of dying.

Well given the way maternal health care is in this country, especially for black women, maybe they should start caring about it. Especially with the onset of abortion bans.

Anyone who studies history knows that pregnancy and childbirth were the leading cause of death among women of childbearing age in the 19th and well into the 20th century.

[Anonymous]

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I think this whole abortion ban will back fire. The minorities have higher birth rate, and eventually this will not be a white christian nation.

Until 2022, Republicans got votes from pro-lifers for pretending to be pro-life, while Democrats killed off their future voters.

So weird you think that Republicans don't get abortions. They get them at the same rate as Democrats.

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This is absolutely devastating.

I wish someone would force Ron Desantis to sit down and listen to this entire article be read aloud to him. Of course he wouldn't care because Republicans just do not care about actual people. F them all.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m pro choice and will be voting blue regardless, but am I the only woman who has never worried about getting pregnant?

I remember a high school health class (in the early 90s, amid nonstop AIDS hysteria, in an urban liberal secular area) when we were asked what we feared more: pregnancy or HIV. I was the only girl out of dozens who was more concerned about the thing that could kill me.

Obviously there were points in my life when I would not have welcomed a pregnancy, but so many women seem to be in a constant state of terror over it, and I’ve simply never understood it. There are so many ways to avoid pregnancy (I remember being 23, horny but a student with big plans, and I was on birth control, used a condom, made him pull out, AND made sure it wasn’t during my ovulation window; iuds weren’t even a thing back then), and yes, of course shit sometimes happens and it’s necessary or a good idea to abort, and I think it should be accessible and safe to do so, but there’s no reason to fret over it 24/7. I feel like I missed some fundamental part of being a woman in that I didn’t spend thirty years obsessing over possibly getting pregnant.

I have a friend who died immediately after giving birth. Like 5 minutes after they put the baby on her chest.

I’m sorry for your loss. I too know someone who died in childbirth. However I don’t think the large number of women in a constant state of panic over potentially getting pregnant are thinking about the possibility of dying.

Well given the way maternal health care is in this country, especially for black women, maybe they should start caring about it. Especially with the onset of abortion bans.

Anyone who studies history knows that pregnancy and childbirth were the leading cause of death among women of childbearing age in the 19th and well into the 20th century.

Interesting that you mentioned black women in light of the HIV comments. While you are correct about maternal health care being a big problem, black women’s primary concern should be not having unprotected sex with men on the DL.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m pro choice and will be voting blue regardless, but am I the only woman who has never worried about getting pregnant?

I remember a high school health class (in the early 90s, amid nonstop AIDS hysteria, in an urban liberal secular area) when we were asked what we feared more: pregnancy or HIV. I was the only girl out of dozens who was more concerned about the thing that could kill me.

Obviously there were points in my life when I would not have welcomed a pregnancy, but so many women seem to be in a constant state of terror over it, and I’ve simply never understood it. There are so many ways to avoid pregnancy (I remember being 23, horny but a student with big plans, and I was on birth control, used a condom, made him pull out, AND made sure it wasn’t during my ovulation window; iuds weren’t even a thing back then), and yes, of course shit sometimes happens and it’s necessary or a good idea to abort, and I think it should be accessible and safe to do so, but there’s no reason to fret over it 24/7. I feel like I missed some fundamental part of being a woman in that I didn’t spend thirty years obsessing over possibly getting pregnant.

I didn’t fear getting pregnant but I did fear conceiving a disabled child. And there are ladies on this thread who wouldn’t let me terminate a genetically abnormal fetus.

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Anonymous wrote:Harris said no religious exceptions. She wants to force Catholic doctors and hospitals to perform abortions.

Good. In some places, the only hospital is unfortunately a Catholic hospital. And now that the conservatives have gotten rid of any abortion clinics, it is what it is.

Just because you are Catholic, doesn't mean the rest of us are. Leave us alone, give us a choice, and you can do what you want.

You say we can do what we want, but we do not want to kill babies.

Ok. Don’t commit infanticide.