House of the Dragon - Game of Thrones spinoff (SPOILERS)

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Anonymous wrote:Did anyone expect Laena’s death would result in her baby being saved? The baby would be unburnt and would be extricated safely from Laena’s ashes.

In the book she died (not by fire) after giving birth to a horribly deformed child. I really wonder if they are playing down the fact that incest has consequences. Apparently Viserys and Daemon’s mother and father were also brother/sister as were their grandparents, plus a few generations before that, the original Aegon married both his sisters. Plus Laena and Daemon were cousins. That’s a pretty big ick factor for me.

No the Targs are allll about incest. They do it to keep the dragon riding ability strong and located only within their own house (See: the problem here with some of the Velaryons having their own dragons). Vicerys was married to his first cousin (Aemma, the woman who died via c-section). R&D eventually get together and have kids. Alicent marries her son Aegon to her daughter Helaena. Aegon’s daughter marries Rhaenyra’s son after the war and that’s how the Targaryen line continues down to Dany.

They truly don’t care about incest, lol.

Aegon’s daughter marries Rhaenyra’s son after the war but that’s not the line Dany came from.

OMG I have stop reading this thread since some of you are determined to spoil the show for the rest of us!!!

Family tree - spoilers I guess:
https://media1.popsugar-assets.com/files/thumbor/nnIiZblS5B7mQEqVchIHxmL9CTE/fit-in/2048xorig/filters:format_auto-!!-:strip_icc-!!-/2022/09/15/743/n/1922283/tmp_pXucCT_b4aa8406d2aeb6bb_POPSUGAR_House_of_Targaryen_Family_Tree.jpg

Yes, they are spoilers! The show should stand alone. The only spoilers discussed should be GOT but you don’t care. Thanks for nothing.

No one forced you to click the link.

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Anonymous wrote:I want to like this show so badly. I really do. But I have yet to find one single character that I even kind of like. The king wouldn’t survive as king in the GOT era. He’s such a pushover and ineffective. No one respects him because he doesn’t deserve respect. If Alicent were around during GOT times she probably would have gotten her face smashed in a few times while speaking out of turn. I’ve given up on this show.

Do you watch the behind the scenes clips? The actor who plays him says he's playing a "bad king but a good person" or something like that. It's intentional. I assume it's setting up a conflict that will need to be resolved.

I did and I find myself having to watch those after every episode so I have a clue what’s going on. And I don’t understand why the female characters changed from the time warp and all the male characters are still played by the same actors. I just think it’s such a waste of what could be good material. It’s poorly executed.

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Anonymous wrote:I want to like this show so badly. I really do. But I have yet to find one single character that I even kind of like. The king wouldn’t survive as king in the GOT era. He’s such a pushover and ineffective. No one respects him because he doesn’t deserve respect. If Alicent were around during GOT times she probably would have gotten her face smashed in a few times while speaking out of turn. I’ve given up on this show.

Do you watch the behind the scenes clips? The actor who plays him says he's playing a "bad king but a good person" or something like that. It's intentional. I assume it's setting up a conflict that will need to be resolved.

I did and I find myself having to watch those after every episode so I have a clue what’s going on. And I don’t understand why the female characters changed from the time warp and all the male characters are still played by the same actors. I just think it’s such a waste of what could be good material. It’s poorly executed.

Laenor was replaced by an older actor.

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Anonymous wrote:Did anyone expect Laena’s death would result in her baby being saved? The baby would be unburnt and would be extricated safely from Laena’s ashes.

In the book she died (not by fire) after giving birth to a horribly deformed child. I really wonder if they are playing down the fact that incest has consequences. Apparently Viserys and Daemon’s mother and father were also brother/sister as were their grandparents, plus a few generations before that, the original Aegon married both his sisters. Plus Laena and Daemon were cousins. That’s a pretty big ick factor for me.

No the Targs are allll about incest. They do it to keep the dragon riding ability strong and located only within their own house (See: the problem here with some of the Velaryons having their own dragons). Vicerys was married to his first cousin (Aemma, the woman who died via c-section). R&D eventually get together and have kids. Alicent marries her son Aegon to her daughter Helaena. Aegon’s daughter marries Rhaenyra’s son after the war and that’s how the Targaryen line continues down to Dany.

They truly don’t care about incest, lol.

Aegon’s daughter marries Rhaenyra’s son after the war but that’s not the line Dany came from.

OMG I have stop reading this thread since some of you are determined to spoil the show for the rest of us!!!

Family tree - spoilers I guess:
https://media1.popsugar-assets.com/files/thumbor/nnIiZblS5B7mQEqVchIHxmL9CTE/fit-in/2048xorig/filters:format_auto-!!-:strip_icc-!!-/2022/09/15/743/n/1922283/tmp_pXucCT_b4aa8406d2aeb6bb_POPSUGAR_House_of_Targaryen_Family_Tree.jpg

Wow - instead of having 4 sets of great-grandparents, Daenerys only has 1 set.

DP. NO SPOILERS PLEASE!

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Anonymous wrote:Did anyone expect Laena’s death would result in her baby being saved? The baby would be unburnt and would be extricated safely from Laena’s ashes.

In the book she died (not by fire) after giving birth to a horribly deformed child. I really wonder if they are playing down the fact that incest has consequences. Apparently Viserys and Daemon’s mother and father were also brother/sister as were their grandparents, plus a few generations before that, the original Aegon married both his sisters. Plus Laena and Daemon were cousins. That’s a pretty big ick factor for me.

No the Targs are allll about incest. They do it to keep the dragon riding ability strong and located only within their own house (See: the problem here with some of the Velaryons having their own dragons). Vicerys was married to his first cousin (Aemma, the woman who died via c-section). R&D eventually get together and have kids. Alicent marries her son Aegon to her daughter Helaena. Aegon’s daughter marries Rhaenyra’s son after the war and that’s how the Targaryen line continues down to Dany.

They truly don’t care about incest, lol.

Aegon’s daughter marries Rhaenyra’s son after the war but that’s not the line Dany came from.

OMG I have stop reading this thread since some of you are determined to spoil the show for the rest of us!!!

Family tree - spoilers I guess:
https://media1.popsugar-assets.com/files/thumbor/nnIiZblS5B7mQEqVchIHxmL9CTE/fit-in/2048xorig/filters:format_auto-!!-:strip_icc-!!-/2022/09/15/743/n/1922283/tmp_pXucCT_b4aa8406d2aeb6bb_POPSUGAR_House_of_Targaryen_Family_Tree.jpg

Yes, they are spoilers! The show should stand alone. The only spoilers discussed should be GOT but you don’t care. Thanks for nothing.

No one forced you to click the link.

You are supposed to alert readers in advance to spoilers in case they want to avoid. This is common internet etiquette observed almost universally. I've had Jeff add it to the title, but even that doesn't really help because readers will assume its spoilers from the show, instead of spoilers from other books.

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Anonymous wrote:Did anyone expect Laena’s death would result in her baby being saved? The baby would be unburnt and would be extricated safely from Laena’s ashes.

In the book she died (not by fire) after giving birth to a horribly deformed child. I really wonder if they are playing down the fact that incest has consequences. Apparently Viserys and Daemon’s mother and father were also brother/sister as were their grandparents, plus a few generations before that, the original Aegon married both his sisters. Plus Laena and Daemon were cousins. That’s a pretty big ick factor for me.

No the Targs are allll about incest. They do it to keep the dragon riding ability strong and located only within their own house (See: the problem here with some of the Velaryons having their own dragons). Vicerys was married to his first cousin (Aemma, the woman who died via c-section). R&D eventually get together and have kids. Alicent marries her son Aegon to her daughter Helaena. Aegon’s daughter marries Rhaenyra’s son after the war and that’s how the Targaryen line continues down to Dany.

They truly don’t care about incest, lol.

Aegon’s daughter marries Rhaenyra’s son after the war but that’s not the line Dany came from.

OMG I have stop reading this thread since some of you are determined to spoil the show for the rest of us!!!

Family tree - spoilers I guess:
https://media1.popsugar-assets.com/files/thumbor/nnIiZblS5B7mQEqVchIHxmL9CTE/fit-in/2048xorig/filters:format_auto-!!-:strip_icc-!!-/2022/09/15/743/n/1922283/tmp_pXucCT_b4aa8406d2aeb6bb_POPSUGAR_House_of_Targaryen_Family_Tree.jpg

Wow - instead of having 4 sets of great-grandparents, Daenerys only has 1 set.

DP. NO SPOILERS PLEASE!

Did you read the title of this thread?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I want to like this show so badly. I really do. But I have yet to find one single character that I even kind of like. The king wouldn’t survive as king in the GOT era. He’s such a pushover and ineffective. No one respects him because he doesn’t deserve respect. If Alicent were around during GOT times she probably would have gotten her face smashed in a few times while speaking out of turn. I’ve given up on this show.

Do you watch the behind the scenes clips? The actor who plays him says he's playing a "bad king but a good person" or something like that. It's intentional. I assume it's setting up a conflict that will need to be resolved.

I did and I find myself having to watch those after every episode so I have a clue what’s going on. And I don’t understand why the female characters changed from the time warp and all the male characters are still played by the same actors. I just think it’s such a waste of what could be good material. It’s poorly executed.

Laenor was replaced by an older actor.

The Velaryon kids have had three sets of actors play them. In the first two episodes they were both played by children, so they could play up the "Viserys will not marry a 12 year old scene" and then for episode 3-5 they were played by young adult contemporaries of Rhaenyra.

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Anonymous wrote:Did anyone expect Laena’s death would result in her baby being saved? The baby would be unburnt and would be extricated safely from Laena’s ashes.

In the book she died (not by fire) after giving birth to a horribly deformed child. I really wonder if they are playing down the fact that incest has consequences. Apparently Viserys and Daemon’s mother and father were also brother/sister as were their grandparents, plus a few generations before that, the original Aegon married both his sisters. Plus Laena and Daemon were cousins. That’s a pretty big ick factor for me.

No the Targs are allll about incest. They do it to keep the dragon riding ability strong and located only within their own house (See: the problem here with some of the Velaryons having their own dragons). Vicerys was married to his first cousin (Aemma, the woman who died via c-section). R&D eventually get together and have kids. Alicent marries her son Aegon to her daughter Helaena. Aegon’s daughter marries Rhaenyra’s son after the war and that’s how the Targaryen line continues down to Dany.

They truly don’t care about incest, lol.

Aegon’s daughter marries Rhaenyra’s son after the war but that’s not the line Dany came from.

OMG I have stop reading this thread since some of you are determined to spoil the show for the rest of us!!!

Family tree - spoilers I guess:
https://media1.popsugar-assets.com/files/thumbor/nnIiZblS5B7mQEqVchIHxmL9CTE/fit-in/2048xorig/filters:format_auto-!!-:strip_icc-!!-/2022/09/15/743/n/1922283/tmp_pXucCT_b4aa8406d2aeb6bb_POPSUGAR_House_of_Targaryen_Family_Tree.jpg

Wow - instead of having 4 sets of great-grandparents, Daenerys only has 1 set.

DP. NO SPOILERS PLEASE!

Did you read the title of this thread?

OP here. I did not write Spoilers in the title, although I expected them. Jeff must have added the SPOILERS because crybabies were sad they couldn't read the thread until they watched the most recent episode.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did anyone expect Laena’s death would result in her baby being saved? The baby would be unburnt and would be extricated safely from Laena’s ashes.

In the book she died (not by fire) after giving birth to a horribly deformed child. I really wonder if they are playing down the fact that incest has consequences. Apparently Viserys and Daemon’s mother and father were also brother/sister as were their grandparents, plus a few generations before that, the original Aegon married both his sisters. Plus Laena and Daemon were cousins. That’s a pretty big ick factor for me.

No the Targs are allll about incest. They do it to keep the dragon riding ability strong and located only within their own house (See: the problem here with some of the Velaryons having their own dragons). Vicerys was married to his first cousin (Aemma, the woman who died via c-section). R&D eventually get together and have kids. Alicent marries her son Aegon to her daughter Helaena. Aegon’s daughter marries Rhaenyra’s son after the war and that’s how the Targaryen line continues down to Dany.

They truly don’t care about incest, lol.

Aegon’s daughter marries Rhaenyra’s son after the war but that’s not the line Dany came from.

That family tree that was posted says Rhaenyra is her great x 6 grandmother.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did anyone expect Laena’s death would result in her baby being saved? The baby would be unburnt and would be extricated safely from Laena’s ashes.

In the book she died (not by fire) after giving birth to a horribly deformed child. I really wonder if they are playing down the fact that incest has consequences. Apparently Viserys and Daemon’s mother and father were also brother/sister as were their grandparents, plus a few generations before that, the original Aegon married both his sisters. Plus Laena and Daemon were cousins. That’s a pretty big ick factor for me.

No the Targs are allll about incest. They do it to keep the dragon riding ability strong and located only within their own house (See: the problem here with some of the Velaryons having their own dragons). Vicerys was married to his first cousin (Aemma, the woman who died via c-section). R&D eventually get together and have kids. Alicent marries her son Aegon to her daughter Helaena. Aegon’s daughter marries Rhaenyra’s son after the war and that’s how the Targaryen line continues down to Dany.

They truly don’t care about incest, lol.

Aegon’s daughter marries Rhaenyra’s son after the war but that’s not the line Dany came from.

OMG I have stop reading this thread since some of you are determined to spoil the show for the rest of us!!!

Family tree - spoilers I guess:
https://media1.popsugar-assets.com/files/thumbor/nnIiZblS5B7mQEqVchIHxmL9CTE/fit-in/2048xorig/filters:format_auto-!!-:strip_icc-!!-/2022/09/15/743/n/1922283/tmp_pXucCT_b4aa8406d2aeb6bb_POPSUGAR_House_of_Targaryen_Family_Tree.jpg

Wow - instead of having 4 sets of great-grandparents, Daenerys only has 1 set.

DP. NO SPOILERS PLEASE!

Why do you get to decide? I like spoilers and I request more!

-Yet another poster

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did anyone expect Laena’s death would result in her baby being saved? The baby would be unburnt and would be extricated safely from Laena’s ashes.

In the book she died (not by fire) after giving birth to a horribly deformed child. I really wonder if they are playing down the fact that incest has consequences. Apparently Viserys and Daemon’s mother and father were also brother/sister as were their grandparents, plus a few generations before that, the original Aegon married both his sisters. Plus Laena and Daemon were cousins. That’s a pretty big ick factor for me.

No the Targs are allll about incest. They do it to keep the dragon riding ability strong and located only within their own house (See: the problem here with some of the Velaryons having their own dragons). Vicerys was married to his first cousin (Aemma, the woman who died via c-section). R&D eventually get together and have kids. Alicent marries her son Aegon to her daughter Helaena. Aegon’s daughter marries Rhaenyra’s son after the war and that’s how the Targaryen line continues down to Dany.

They truly don’t care about incest, lol.

Aegon’s daughter marries Rhaenyra’s son after the war but that’s not the line Dany came from.

That family tree that was posted says Rhaenyra is her great x 6 grandmother.

Dany is related to Rhaenyra but not to Alicent. Dany comes from the line of Rhaenyra’s son and his second wife, not Aegon’s daughter. It’s a different line.

[Anonymous]

Not sure if this has been discussed already, but I'm not feeling a connection between the old and new Rhaenyra. They seem like they have entirely different personalities.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did anyone expect Laena’s death would result in her baby being saved? The baby would be unburnt and would be extricated safely from Laena’s ashes.

In the book she died (not by fire) after giving birth to a horribly deformed child. I really wonder if they are playing down the fact that incest has consequences. Apparently Viserys and Daemon’s mother and father were also brother/sister as were their grandparents, plus a few generations before that, the original Aegon married both his sisters. Plus Laena and Daemon were cousins. That’s a pretty big ick factor for me.

No the Targs are allll about incest. They do it to keep the dragon riding ability strong and located only within their own house (See: the problem here with some of the Velaryons having their own dragons). Vicerys was married to his first cousin (Aemma, the woman who died via c-section). R&D eventually get together and have kids. Alicent marries her son Aegon to her daughter Helaena. Aegon’s daughter marries Rhaenyra’s son after the war and that’s how the Targaryen line continues down to Dany.

They truly don’t care about incest, lol.

Aegon’s daughter marries Rhaenyra’s son after the war but that’s not the line Dany came from.

OMG I have stop reading this thread since some of you are determined to spoil the show for the rest of us!!!

Family tree - spoilers I guess:
https://media1.popsugar-assets.com/files/thumbor/nnIiZblS5B7mQEqVchIHxmL9CTE/fit-in/2048xorig/filters:format_auto-!!-:strip_icc-!!-/2022/09/15/743/n/1922283/tmp_pXucCT_b4aa8406d2aeb6bb_POPSUGAR_House_of_Targaryen_Family_Tree.jpg

Yes, they are spoilers! The show should stand alone. The only spoilers discussed should be GOT but you don’t care. Thanks for nothing.

No one forced you to click the link.

You are supposed to alert readers in advance to spoilers in case they want to avoid. This is common internet etiquette observed almost universally. I've had Jeff add it to the title, but even that doesn't really help because readers will assume its spoilers from the show, instead of spoilers from other books.

I literally said “spoilers I guess”.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not sure if this has been discussed already, but I'm not feeling a connection between the old and new Rhaenyra. They seem like they have entirely different personalities.

Funny, I feel that way about Allicent.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure if this has been discussed already, but I'm not feeling a connection between the old and new Rhaenyra. They seem like they have entirely different personalities.

Funny, I feel that way about Allicent.

I think that’s intentional. They’re trying to underline how Alicent has changed as she understands how shaky her children’s security/ future are.