House of the Dragon - Game of Thrones spinoff (SPOILERS)

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I thought it was fine but not compelling. The acting is good at least. I'll probably keep watching but wasn't "wow-ed". I wish that, if they were going to return to a Westeros/GoT series they had gone in a different direction and explored something/somewhere else. The fight for succession to the iron throne feels stale.


I’d prefer a prequel centered more in the north with the tree people


You mean the Children of the Forest?

I would have preferred something with the fathers and grandfathers of the houses featured in GOT, leading into the childhoods of Robert, Ned, Jamie, Cersei, etc.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I had to cover my eyes during the violent scenes. Why does it have to be like this? It is okay for some of the violence to be implied. We get it, it doesn't have to be in your face.


This is exactly what I said to my husband. We understand that a man is being castrated without showing a bloody penis after, good grief. I feel the same as others about the gratutitous sex and violence, but the actual storytelling seems okay so far. The actress who plays Rhanerya annoys me, which could become a problem.


The good news is that a different actress will play her as an older version. I don't find this actress attractive. She's strange looking. Reminds me of Chaka in Land of the Lost. I felt like she held her own in the scenes with Matt Smith and set up a very complicated relationship there, but overall she's little and not very regal. A Lyanna Mormont she is not.

I finished the first episode and the commentary stuff was playing in the background. The show runners were trying to make the point the Daemon (Matt Smith) isn't a monster, and my reaction to that was, what? Because he seems pretty monstrous even if he is sometimes nice to his niece - a relationship that's beneficial to the both of them if you are a transactional person.

I'm also loving the very The Other Boleyn Girl/Lady Jane Grey setup of the Hightowers even if I was slightly disappointed that Alicent went so readily when her father asked.

I will likely stick with it. I am also glad that not so much is made of the dragons.





Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I thought it was fine but not compelling. The acting is good at least. I'll probably keep watching but wasn't "wow-ed". I wish that, if they were going to return to a Westeros/GoT series they had gone in a different direction and explored something/somewhere else. The fight for succession to the iron throne feels stale.


I’d prefer a prequel centered more in the north with the tree people


You mean the Children of the Forest?

I would have preferred something with the fathers and grandfathers of the houses featured in GOT, leading into the childhoods of Robert, Ned, Jamie, Cersei, etc.


I guess they made a pilot about events from 1000 years before GoT but it was a dud. Too prehistoric? But I'd also like to see the children of the forest and more origin stories.
Anonymous
What was up with the secret that the king told his daughter at the end of the episode? White Walkers & winter will come, there must be a Targaryen on the throne, etc., etc.

(1) I thought white walkers were defeated after Dany died. There was not a Targaryen on the throne. Plot issue?

(2) Perhaps the Jon Snow sequel show will come out and one day put Jon Snow on the throne. Maybe the white walkers aren't gone forever and there will be a final showdown? I was hoping that GoT would end with a white walker baby opening a cold blue eye ...
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I thought it was fine but not compelling. The acting is good at least. I'll probably keep watching but wasn't "wow-ed". I wish that, if they were going to return to a Westeros/GoT series they had gone in a different direction and explored something/somewhere else. The fight for succession to the iron throne feels stale.


I’d prefer a prequel centered more in the north with the tree people


You mean the Children of the Forest?

I would have preferred something with the fathers and grandfathers of the houses featured in GOT, leading into the childhoods of Robert, Ned, Jamie, Cersei, etc.


Yes, the Children of the Forest and the First Men. My guess is they don’t have the necessary CGI budget to handle all that would require.

I suspect in this series will explain how the Lannisters gained influence. They are petty now.

Also, amazing how many generations are supposed in those 127 years. My great-grandparents were between 83-94 years older than me. Granted I am descended from a few youngest children in that span between us, but it still seems odd that DT is a 7th great-grandchild of theming shown in the opening scene. The oldest of my 2x-great-grandparents was born in the 1850s, so about 120y before me. So this story isn’t so far off from GOT as some may think.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:What was up with the secret that the king told his daughter at the end of the episode? White Walkers & winter will come, there must be a Targaryen on the throne, etc., etc.

(1) I thought white walkers were defeated after Dany died. There was not a Targaryen on the throne. Plot issue?

(2) Perhaps the Jon Snow sequel show will come out and one day put Jon Snow on the throne. Maybe the white walkers aren't gone forever and there will be a final showdown? I was hoping that GoT would end with a white walker baby opening a cold blue eye ...


They were defeated before but Dany wasn't on the throne then either.

They just didn't stick the landing.

I walked out during the graphic c section thing and I'm not coming back.

Honestly this just makes me sad. I loved the books when I stared reading them in high school, loved the show in the first seasons, but the quality dip and fact that the books are never getting finished just killed it for me. I'd hoped maybe a new show would revitalize it but big ol nope from that first episode.
Anonymous
Just because a dream/prophesy is told, doesn’t mean it comes to be exactly. It was darn close, minus the ruling Targaryen part, but of course they’d assume they would still be in charge.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I thought it was fine but not compelling. The acting is good at least. I'll probably keep watching but wasn't "wow-ed". I wish that, if they were going to return to a Westeros/GoT series they had gone in a different direction and explored something/somewhere else. The fight for succession to the iron throne feels stale.


I’d prefer a prequel centered more in the north with the tree people


You mean the Children of the Forest?

I would have preferred something with the fathers and grandfathers of the houses featured in GOT, leading into the childhoods of Robert, Ned, Jamie, Cersei, etc.


Yes, the Children of the Forest and the First Men. My guess is they don’t have the necessary CGI budget to handle all that would require.

I suspect in this series will explain how the Lannisters gained influence. They are petty now.

Also, amazing how many generations are supposed in those 127 years. My great-grandparents were between 83-94 years older than me. Granted I am descended from a few youngest children in that span between us, but it still seems odd that DT is a 7th great-grandchild of theming shown in the opening scene. The oldest of my 2x-great-grandparents was born in the 1850s, so about 120y before me. So this story isn’t so far off from GOT as some may think.


Theming —> the king
Anonymous
We need an old Nan
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I thought it was fine but not compelling. The acting is good at least. I'll probably keep watching but wasn't "wow-ed". I wish that, if they were going to return to a Westeros/GoT series they had gone in a different direction and explored something/somewhere else. The fight for succession to the iron throne feels stale.


I’d prefer a prequel centered more in the north with the tree people


You mean the Children of the Forest?

I would have preferred something with the fathers and grandfathers of the houses featured in GOT, leading into the childhoods of Robert, Ned, Jamie, Cersei, etc.


I guess they made a pilot about events from 1000 years before GoT but it was a dud. Too prehistoric? But I'd also like to see the children of the forest and more origin stories.


Yes. Or if we were going to see the Targaryens, why not the time frame leading up to whatever cataclysm made them leave Valyria and come to Westeros and then take over the 7 kingdoms in the first place? But seriously exploring just about anything else in the "world" would be more interesting to me at this point.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:What was up with the secret that the king told his daughter at the end of the episode? White Walkers & winter will come, there must be a Targaryen on the throne, etc., etc.

(1) I thought white walkers were defeated after Dany died. There was not a Targaryen on the throne. Plot issue?

(2) Perhaps the Jon Snow sequel show will come out and one day put Jon Snow on the throne. Maybe the white walkers aren't gone forever and there will be a final showdown? I was hoping that GoT would end with a white walker baby opening a cold blue eye ...



I think that is a nod to the books/how GRRM intends the Song of Ice and Fire to go and not to how the GoT tv show actually went. GRRM is heavily involved with House of the Dragon and was not with the last several seasons of GoT.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I thought it was fine but not compelling. The acting is good at least. I'll probably keep watching but wasn't "wow-ed". I wish that, if they were going to return to a Westeros/GoT series they had gone in a different direction and explored something/somewhere else. The fight for succession to the iron throne feels stale.


I’d prefer a prequel centered more in the north with the tree people


You mean the Children of the Forest?

I would have preferred something with the fathers and grandfathers of the houses featured in GOT, leading into the childhoods of Robert, Ned, Jamie, Cersei, etc.


I guess they made a pilot about events from 1000 years before GoT but it was a dud. Too prehistoric? But I'd also like to see the children of the forest and more origin stories.


Yes. Or if we were going to see the Targaryens, why not the time frame leading up to whatever cataclysm made them leave Valyria and come to Westeros and then take over the 7 kingdoms in the first place? But seriously exploring just about anything else in the "world" would be more interesting to me at this point.


Oooh! I like your idea.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I thought it was fine but not compelling. The acting is good at least. I'll probably keep watching but wasn't "wow-ed". I wish that, if they were going to return to a Westeros/GoT series they had gone in a different direction and explored something/somewhere else. The fight for succession to the iron throne feels stale.


I’d prefer a prequel centered more in the north with the tree people


You mean the Children of the Forest?

I would have preferred something with the fathers and grandfathers of the houses featured in GOT, leading into the childhoods of Robert, Ned, Jamie, Cersei, etc.


I guess they made a pilot about events from 1000 years before GoT but it was a dud. Too prehistoric? But I'd also like to see the children of the forest and more origin stories.


Yes. Or if we were going to see the Targaryens, why not the time frame leading up to whatever cataclysm made them leave Valyria and come to Westeros and then take over the 7 kingdoms in the first place? But seriously exploring just about anything else in the "world" would be more interesting to me at this point.


Oooh! I like your idea.


+1
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I had to cover my eyes during the violent scenes. Why does it have to be like this? It is okay for some of the violence to be implied. We get it, it doesn't have to be in your face.


This is exactly what I said to my husband. We understand that a man is being castrated without showing a bloody penis after, good grief. I feel the same as others about the gratutitous sex and violence, but the actual storytelling seems okay so far. The actress who plays Rhanerya annoys me, which could become a problem.


The good news is that a different actress will play her as an older version. I don't find this actress attractive. She's strange looking. Reminds me of Chaka in Land of the Lost. I felt like she held her own in the scenes with Matt Smith and set up a very complicated relationship there, but overall she's little and not very regal. A Lyanna Mormont she is not.

I finished the first episode and the commentary stuff was playing in the background. The show runners were trying to make the point the Daemon (Matt Smith) isn't a monster, and my reaction to that was, what? Because he seems pretty monstrous even if he is sometimes nice to his niece - a relationship that's beneficial to the both of them if you are a transactional person.

I'm also loving the very The Other Boleyn Girl/Lady Jane Grey setup of the Hightowers even if I was slightly disappointed that Alicent went so readily when her father asked.

I will likely stick with it. I am also glad that not so much is made of the dragons.




Can you explain this more? I am familiar with the Boleyns and Jane Grey but don't see how their stories could be related to HOTD.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is it all naked tits and rapes again? Because that appeals to me about as much as a bowl of puke.


Supposedly the series aims to be much less rape-y. Based on last night’s episode, still plenty of unnecessary brothel scenes.



Yeah that was disappointing. GOT was so much better once those were (mostly) dispensed with.


+1 just like the scenes of brutal fights, I just fast forwarded. It’s really not necessary to have brutal violence and brothels in every episodes.
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