I think this was targeted at any parent with a kid in any long standing destination club. These clubs are still going to produce P5 players but no longer at the numbers they once did. There are simply many more options now than before so just because you are now on a U14 team at a older destination club who would send ten kids to a Power 5 school don't assume that just being on a team in that club, in that league will mean the same thing for your player. DA started when 04 and 03 teams were established under the old world order. ECNL doubled in size locally within the same time frame. So 05 was a affected some, but 06 and younger is a whole different ball game. Clubs like VDA have become stronger at the younger ages, Loudoun has retained their players. These players are staying put along with McLean kids, BRYC, FCV etc. |
This. Until 2017, BRYC was where girls went to get recruited if they didn’t do ECNL (FCV and Mclean). Any girl who wanted to get recruited to play college soccer went to one of those three teams. BRYC wasn’t ECNL but it had a great track record. All of that broke apart in 2017 with the establishment of Girls DA and the subsequent expansion of ECNL. Those three clubs no longer have the talent magnet they once did. All will be revealed when 06s start making verbal commitments, as PP noted. I think we’ll see a very different recruiting landscape emerge. |
| You NoVA folks have lost your minds. FCV and McLean still attract significant talent. Arlington is keeping its talent for the most part. BRYC is done. Metro United is done. VDA will produce a good team here and there but don't have the geographical pull to be anything other than a competitive club. The wildcards are Loudoun and GA. If FCV can't get into ECNL and GA dies, FCV has lost is pull. Loudoun will benefit. Arlington will return to feeding McLean. BRYC might recover it it manages with FCV. |
Mclean is not what they were and it’s because they are not getting the feeders any more. McLean use to everything inside the beltway including DC and some parts of Maryland. That was a lot of kids. I am sure there were some talented kids who never got a chance for whatever reasons. There are girls who do well in college who did not play in the ECNL or DA/GA. You can either play or you can’t. It is not league dependent. |
Have another drink. |
As other PP stated, 05-03 is under an old order. The 06 teams and below is new era. VDA producing high quality teams in this age group (06/08s) as well as Loudoun. The only constant for all age groups seems to be Richmond United as they don't have to fight amongst themselves. The whole Arlington and FCV not being in ENCL is real and they'll rot on the vine. |
The poster is a .......There is no old order and new order. Apply a higher level of thinking when it comes to deal with posters. NOVA cam absolutely field 4 NOVA teams. That’s not issue. It’s the 4 ECNL and 3 GA that allows for “watering down” The GA will die off. If they plucked FCV and Tophat for the east coast GA is dead in this area. FCV will not get ECNL. They will have to move. ECNL gave their spot Loudoun. They will not create a situation where they have to fight for the same pool. Whether you like it or not, Loudoun is the biggest pool in VA. If FCV shut down operations at Evergreen, which they may because they are owned by a group in Springfield, Loudoun will become a force. If FCV moved to BRYC, they would be 10 minutes from TSJ....who they are owned by. They then create a partnership and get back in ECNL will creating new customers for TSJ. How long do you think TSJ, who is dealing with the financial hardships from COVID, will allow their team to pay fees at evergreen versus pocketing the money? Arlington will reestablish a partnership with McLean. |
I kinda agree with this. Makes sense other than pride and stubbornness getting in the way. |
So you’re telling me that the one thing keeping Loudoun from being a force is a girls soccer club that can barely manage two teams per age group? |
1. Loudoun girls first issue is the arrogance that came with the huge player pool. 2. The way they treated parents and players 3. Losing every good player after U13 to FCV 4. Not having an elite platform 5. More arrogance and nepotism. 6. Too much parent involvement Loudoun, without a shadow of a doubt, COULD become the greatest force in NOVA. First, they wil have to create an environment that allows for it. If FCV moves to Springfield and Metros, who is not even a player but has some good players, falls out of favor with players because of the weakness of the GA, BRYC will strengthen. Same thing with Arlington that will strengthen McLean. Here’s what you will have. PWC - VDA Loudoun - Loudoun Western- Central Fairfax - BRYC Northern Fairfax and Arlington- McLean As soon a GA clubs except their demise, thing will get back to normal. It’s coming. Just a question how fast. |
| It just seems so clear. |
That doesn't mean any of those best GA players will flock to Loudoun. They haven't proven anything to top players and, frankly, assuming the GA demise, Loudoun will still not attract those players. What Will happen is McLean, VDA and BRYC will get stronger. The nepotism, arrogance that is Loudoun will be even worse without GA. I'm sorry, but Loudoun is not, and never will be a destination club with the current leadership. They are nothing more than the biggest Rec club in Virginia. Their money is made in rec and the lower travel teams. They are not incentivized to improve ECNL or change the way they are doing things. |
| ECNL trolling hard lately. Might be losing clubs to GA soon. |
Let’s get a few things straight. Kids don’t flock to Loudoun. Loudoun already has them. They don’t need to be a destination club. They need the ability to hold what they have. Let’s be crystal clear, it is FCV that needs Loudouns players. FCV does not have a pool. Think about that. Really really let that sink in. Zero pool. Truth be told, it’s Arlington l, Loudoun and VDA that should have ECNL and everyone else can go. Now, that’s not going to happen but that is where the true player pools are. |
They don't need kids to flock to them? WOW, talk about arrogance. Good luck with that. You understand that kids flock to PDA, Top Hat etc. They do not rely on kids they selected at 8-9 years old and assume that's all they'll ever need. |