ECNL and GA Friendly Scrimmages this weekend

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Anonymous wrote:I hope people don’t start posting nasty comments, setting these friendly scrimmages has been a great call from the clubs.


There is nothing wrong with the friendlies it is the weird demanding of scores at friendlies that generally gets mocked.


Tell me the difference between a friendly and a game


League games matter, friendlies don't. Playing time is different, etc.


Lol. Not much different no matter how much you downplay it.

A friendly is not a friendly to the players.


But the coaches may not play a regular lineup, try a new formation or put kids in different spots. So regardless of how serious the players take the game the coaches may have a very different motivation and approach to the game.

They do not matter but that won't stop you from demanding scores and projecting the quality of a league, club, team based on the results.


I was waiting for this response. It seems to be the go to response I hear all the time but never seen played out.

It’s absurd to suggest that coaches travel to play a rival club just to experiment. They can do that at home during inter-club scrimmages.

A coach can’t do an assessment of the team while also do new formations and moving players around.

It’s all just a built in excuse used by the losers.

Now, does the best team always perform? No


Again, your objective, your rival is not the same as the coaches.

It is now January, exactly what assessment does a coach need to make of his/her team? These are just games to try some things, shake off some rust and also to just play a game against another team.

They really just don’t mean anything. Win or lose, they don’t mean anything.

If my kids team beat yours, I have some information and that is all. If my kids team loses to yours I have some information.

You must have a U13 or U14 to be so wound up and competitive. As your kid gets older and recruiting begins your focus will primarily be on your own kids performance more than the teams. If you are a reasonable adult you will also mature and not live and die based on the results of a soccer team. The chapter begins to close as you look forward to your kids college destination.

So, once again, no, a scrimmage is a tool and nothing more.
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Anonymous wrote:I hope people don’t start posting nasty comments, setting these friendly scrimmages has been a great call from the clubs.


There is nothing wrong with the friendlies it is the weird demanding of scores at friendlies that generally gets mocked.


Tell me the difference between a friendly and a game


League games matter, friendlies don't. Playing time is different, etc.


Lol. Not much different no matter how much you downplay it.

A friendly is not a friendly to the players.


But the coaches may not play a regular lineup, try a new formation or put kids in different spots. So regardless of how serious the players take the game the coaches may have a very different motivation and approach to the game.

They do not matter but that won't stop you from demanding scores and projecting the quality of a league, club, team based on the results.


I was waiting for this response. It seems to be the go to response I hear all the time but never seen played out.

It’s absurd to suggest that coaches travel to play a rival club just to experiment. They can do that at home during inter-club scrimmages.

A coach can’t do an assessment of the team while also do new formations and moving players around.

It’s all just a built in excuse used by the losers.

Now, does the best team always perform? No


Again, your objective, your rival is not the same as the coaches.

It is now January, exactly what assessment does a coach need to make of his/her team? These are just games to try some things, shake off some rust and also to just play a game against another team.

They really just don’t mean anything. Win or lose, they don’t mean anything.

If my kids team beat yours, I have some information and that is all. If my kids team loses to yours I have some information.

You must have a U13 or U14 to be so wound up and competitive. As your kid gets older and recruiting begins your focus will primarily be on your own kids performance more than the teams. If you are a reasonable adult you will also mature and not live and die based on the results of a soccer team. The chapter begins to close as you look forward to your kids college destination.

So, once again, no, a scrimmage is a tool and nothing more.


A scrimmage/friendly/pre-season/out of conference/ whatever you want to call it is a game. Like every other game. A showcase doesn’t count, but it counts.

You rarely see two rival clubs who compete for the same pool of players scrimmage one another. Why? Because it created movement.



Tell us, what information do you obtain from the
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Anonymous wrote:I hope people don’t start posting nasty comments, setting these friendly scrimmages has been a great call from the clubs.


There is nothing wrong with the friendlies it is the weird demanding of scores at friendlies that generally gets mocked.


Tell me the difference between a friendly and a game


League games matter, friendlies don't. Playing time is different, etc.


Lol. Not much different no matter how much you downplay it.

A friendly is not a friendly to the players.


But the coaches may not play a regular lineup, try a new formation or put kids in different spots. So regardless of how serious the players take the game the coaches may have a very different motivation and approach to the game.

They do not matter but that won't stop you from demanding scores and projecting the quality of a league, club, team based on the results.


I was waiting for this response. It seems to be the go to response I hear all the time but never seen played out.

It’s absurd to suggest that coaches travel to play a rival club just to experiment. They can do that at home during inter-club scrimmages.

A coach can’t do an assessment of the team while also do new formations and moving players around.

It’s all just a built in excuse used by the losers.

Now, does the best team always perform? No


Again, your objective, your rival is not the same as the coaches.

It is now January, exactly what assessment does a coach need to make of his/her team? These are just games to try some things, shake off some rust and also to just play a game against another team.

They really just don’t mean anything. Win or lose, they don’t mean anything.

If my kids team beat yours, I have some information and that is all. If my kids team loses to yours I have some information.

You must have a U13 or U14 to be so wound up and competitive. As your kid gets older and recruiting begins your focus will primarily be on your own kids performance more than the teams. If you are a reasonable adult you will also mature and not live and die based on the results of a soccer team. The chapter begins to close as you look forward to your kids college destination.

So, once again, no, a scrimmage is a tool and nothing more.


A scrimmage/friendly/pre-season/out of conference/ whatever you want to call it is a game. Like every other game. A showcase doesn’t count, but it counts.

You rarely see two rival clubs who compete for the same pool of players scrimmage one another. Why? Because it created movement.



Tell us, what information do you obtain from the


And you are free to believe it matters. And you free to believe whatever narrative you wish to spin about friendlies. Most people do not believe they matter in the big picture. Most people take them at face value for what they are and nothing more. The players themselves do not put the stock in them, or even real games as parents do.

Most kids at the ECNL/GA level have played hundreds of games by U14 and the impact of most games is negligible to them unless something unique stood out regarding their performance.

Kids do not visit this site and kids do not monitor the soccer landscape. Kids don't know or care or follow their rankings or other clubs team rankings. This means more to you than it does than nearly anyone else.

Now that doesn't mean kids, parents and coaches don't want to see their kid and team play well. It doesn't mean kids don't always want to play and practice well but that doesn't mean friendly results are anything to either lose sleep over or get excited about.

So when you come back here demanding scores understand that if you don't get them it is because nobody cares about the score and certainly nobody cares enough about you to makes sure you get them either.
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Anonymous wrote:I hope people don’t start posting nasty comments, setting these friendly scrimmages has been a great call from the clubs.


There is nothing wrong with the friendlies it is the weird demanding of scores at friendlies that generally gets mocked.


Tell me the difference between a friendly and a game


League games matter, friendlies don't. Playing time is different, etc.


Lol. Not much different no matter how much you downplay it.

A friendly is not a friendly to the players.


But the coaches may not play a regular lineup, try a new formation or put kids in different spots. So regardless of how serious the players take the game the coaches may have a very different motivation and approach to the game.

They do not matter but that won't stop you from demanding scores and projecting the quality of a league, club, team based on the results.


I was waiting for this response. It seems to be the go to response I hear all the time but never seen played out.

It’s absurd to suggest that coaches travel to play a rival club just to experiment. They can do that at home during inter-club scrimmages.

A coach can’t do an assessment of the team while also do new formations and moving players around.

It’s all just a built in excuse used by the losers.

Now, does the best team always perform? No


Again, your objective, your rival is not the same as the coaches.

It is now January, exactly what assessment does a coach need to make of his/her team? These are just games to try some things, shake off some rust and also to just play a game against another team.

They really just don’t mean anything. Win or lose, they don’t mean anything.

If my kids team beat yours, I have some information and that is all. If my kids team loses to yours I have some information.

You must have a U13 or U14 to be so wound up and competitive. As your kid gets older and recruiting begins your focus will primarily be on your own kids performance more than the teams. If you are a reasonable adult you will also mature and not live and die based on the results of a soccer team. The chapter begins to close as you look forward to your kids college destination.

So, once again, no, a scrimmage is a tool and nothing more.


A scrimmage/friendly/pre-season/out of conference/ whatever you want to call it is a game. Like every other game. A showcase doesn’t count, but it counts.

You rarely see two rival clubs who compete for the same pool of players scrimmage one another. Why? Because it created movement.



Tell us, what information do you obtain from the


And you are free to believe it matters. And you free to believe whatever narrative you wish to spin about friendlies. Most people do not believe they matter in the big picture. Most people take them at face value for what they are and nothing more. The players themselves do not put the stock in them, or even real games as parents do.

Most kids at the ECNL/GA level have played hundreds of games by U14 and the impact of most games is negligible to them unless something unique stood out regarding their performance.

Kids do not visit this site and kids do not monitor the soccer landscape. Kids don't know or care or follow their rankings or other clubs team rankings. This means more to you than it does than nearly anyone else.

Now that doesn't mean kids, parents and coaches don't want to see their kid and team play well. It doesn't mean kids don't always want to play and practice well but that doesn't mean friendly results are anything to either lose sleep over or get excited about.

So when you come back here demanding scores understand that if you don't get them it is because nobody cares about the score and certainly nobody cares enough about you to makes sure you get them either.


You sound emotionally unattached to results. Either you’re downplaying or a coach
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Anonymous wrote:I hope people don’t start posting nasty comments, setting these friendly scrimmages has been a great call from the clubs.


There is nothing wrong with the friendlies it is the weird demanding of scores at friendlies that generally gets mocked.


Tell me the difference between a friendly and a game


League games matter, friendlies don't. Playing time is different, etc.


Lol. Not much different no matter how much you downplay it.

A friendly is not a friendly to the players.


But the coaches may not play a regular lineup, try a new formation or put kids in different spots. So regardless of how serious the players take the game the coaches may have a very different motivation and approach to the game.

They do not matter but that won't stop you from demanding scores and projecting the quality of a league, club, team based on the results.


I was waiting for this response. It seems to be the go to response I hear all the time but never seen played out.

It’s absurd to suggest that coaches travel to play a rival club just to experiment. They can do that at home during inter-club scrimmages.

A coach can’t do an assessment of the team while also do new formations and moving players around.

It’s all just a built in excuse used by the losers.

Now, does the best team always perform? No


Again, your objective, your rival is not the same as the coaches.

It is now January, exactly what assessment does a coach need to make of his/her team? These are just games to try some things, shake off some rust and also to just play a game against another team.

They really just don’t mean anything. Win or lose, they don’t mean anything.

If my kids team beat yours, I have some information and that is all. If my kids team loses to yours I have some information.

You must have a U13 or U14 to be so wound up and competitive. As your kid gets older and recruiting begins your focus will primarily be on your own kids performance more than the teams. If you are a reasonable adult you will also mature and not live and die based on the results of a soccer team. The chapter begins to close as you look forward to your kids college destination.

So, once again, no, a scrimmage is a tool and nothing more.


A scrimmage/friendly/pre-season/out of conference/ whatever you want to call it is a game. Like every other game. A showcase doesn’t count, but it counts.

You rarely see two rival clubs who compete for the same pool of players scrimmage one another. Why? Because it created movement.



Tell us, what information do you obtain from the


And you are free to believe it matters. And you free to believe whatever narrative you wish to spin about friendlies. Most people do not believe they matter in the big picture. Most people take them at face value for what they are and nothing more. The players themselves do not put the stock in them, or even real games as parents do.

Most kids at the ECNL/GA level have played hundreds of games by U14 and the impact of most games is negligible to them unless something unique stood out regarding their performance.

Kids do not visit this site and kids do not monitor the soccer landscape. Kids don't know or care or follow their rankings or other clubs team rankings. This means more to you than it does than nearly anyone else.

Now that doesn't mean kids, parents and coaches don't want to see their kid and team play well. It doesn't mean kids don't always want to play and practice well but that doesn't mean friendly results are anything to either lose sleep over or get excited about.

So when you come back here demanding scores understand that if you don't get them it is because nobody cares about the score and certainly nobody cares enough about you to makes sure you get them either.


You sound emotionally unattached to results. Either you’re downplaying or a coach


Why would I be emotionally attached to the results of friendly?
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Anonymous wrote:I hope people don’t start posting nasty comments, setting these friendly scrimmages has been a great call from the clubs.


There is nothing wrong with the friendlies it is the weird demanding of scores at friendlies that generally gets mocked.


Tell me the difference between a friendly and a game


League games matter, friendlies don't. Playing time is different, etc.


Lol. Not much different no matter how much you downplay it.

A friendly is not a friendly to the players.


But the coaches may not play a regular lineup, try a new formation or put kids in different spots. So regardless of how serious the players take the game the coaches may have a very different motivation and approach to the game.

They do not matter but that won't stop you from demanding scores and projecting the quality of a league, club, team based on the results.


I was waiting for this response. It seems to be the go to response I hear all the time but never seen played out.

It’s absurd to suggest that coaches travel to play a rival club just to experiment. They can do that at home during inter-club scrimmages.

A coach can’t do an assessment of the team while also do new formations and moving players around.

It’s all just a built in excuse used by the losers.

Now, does the best team always perform? No


Again, your objective, your rival is not the same as the coaches.

It is now January, exactly what assessment does a coach need to make of his/her team? These are just games to try some things, shake off some rust and also to just play a game against another team.

They really just don’t mean anything. Win or lose, they don’t mean anything.

If my kids team beat yours, I have some information and that is all. If my kids team loses to yours I have some information.

You must have a U13 or U14 to be so wound up and competitive. As your kid gets older and recruiting begins your focus will primarily be on your own kids performance more than the teams. If you are a reasonable adult you will also mature and not live and die based on the results of a soccer team. The chapter begins to close as you look forward to your kids college destination.

So, once again, no, a scrimmage is a tool and nothing more.


A scrimmage/friendly/pre-season/out of conference/ whatever you want to call it is a game. Like every other game. A showcase doesn’t count, but it counts.

You rarely see two rival clubs who compete for the same pool of players scrimmage one another. Why? Because it created movement.



Tell us, what information do you obtain from the


And you are free to believe it matters. And you free to believe whatever narrative you wish to spin about friendlies. Most people do not believe they matter in the big picture. Most people take them at face value for what they are and nothing more. The players themselves do not put the stock in them, or even real games as parents do.

Most kids at the ECNL/GA level have played hundreds of games by U14 and the impact of most games is negligible to them unless something unique stood out regarding their performance.

Kids do not visit this site and kids do not monitor the soccer landscape. Kids don't know or care or follow their rankings or other clubs team rankings. This means more to you than it does than nearly anyone else.

Now that doesn't mean kids, parents and coaches don't want to see their kid and team play well. It doesn't mean kids don't always want to play and practice well but that doesn't mean friendly results are anything to either lose sleep over or get excited about.

So when you come back here demanding scores understand that if you don't get them it is because nobody cares about the score and certainly nobody cares enough about you to makes sure you get them either.


You sound emotionally unattached to results. Either you’re downplaying or a coach


Why would I be emotionally attached to the results of friendly?


Because your child played. That’s what parents do. I haven’t met a parent who couldn’t care less...win or lose. I don’t care what it is...especially against a rival club where the parents and players know each other. Bragging rights are always on the table.
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Let FCV play Loudoun in a friendly. Then you’ll see how much people care about a scrimmage
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Anonymous wrote:I hope people don’t start posting nasty comments, setting these friendly scrimmages has been a great call from the clubs.


There is nothing wrong with the friendlies it is the weird demanding of scores at friendlies that generally gets mocked.


Tell me the difference between a friendly and a game


League games matter, friendlies don't. Playing time is different, etc.


Lol. Not much different no matter how much you downplay it.

A friendly is not a friendly to the players.


But the coaches may not play a regular lineup, try a new formation or put kids in different spots. So regardless of how serious the players take the game the coaches may have a very different motivation and approach to the game.

They do not matter but that won't stop you from demanding scores and projecting the quality of a league, club, team based on the results.


I was waiting for this response. It seems to be the go to response I hear all the time but never seen played out.

It’s absurd to suggest that coaches travel to play a rival club just to experiment. They can do that at home during inter-club scrimmages.

A coach can’t do an assessment of the team while also do new formations and moving players around.

It’s all just a built in excuse used by the losers.

Now, does the best team always perform? No


Again, your objective, your rival is not the same as the coaches.

It is now January, exactly what assessment does a coach need to make of his/her team? These are just games to try some things, shake off some rust and also to just play a game against another team.

They really just don’t mean anything. Win or lose, they don’t mean anything.

If my kids team beat yours, I have some information and that is all. If my kids team loses to yours I have some information.

You must have a U13 or U14 to be so wound up and competitive. As your kid gets older and recruiting begins your focus will primarily be on your own kids performance more than the teams. If you are a reasonable adult you will also mature and not live and die based on the results of a soccer team. The chapter begins to close as you look forward to your kids college destination.

So, once again, no, a scrimmage is a tool and nothing more.


A scrimmage/friendly/pre-season/out of conference/ whatever you want to call it is a game. Like every other game. A showcase doesn’t count, but it counts.

You rarely see two rival clubs who compete for the same pool of players scrimmage one another. Why? Because it created movement.



Tell us, what information do you obtain from the


And you are free to believe it matters. And you free to believe whatever narrative you wish to spin about friendlies. Most people do not believe they matter in the big picture. Most people take them at face value for what they are and nothing more. The players themselves do not put the stock in them, or even real games as parents do.

Most kids at the ECNL/GA level have played hundreds of games by U14 and the impact of most games is negligible to them unless something unique stood out regarding their performance.

Kids do not visit this site and kids do not monitor the soccer landscape. Kids don't know or care or follow their rankings or other clubs team rankings. This means more to you than it does than nearly anyone else.

Now that doesn't mean kids, parents and coaches don't want to see their kid and team play well. It doesn't mean kids don't always want to play and practice well but that doesn't mean friendly results are anything to either lose sleep over or get excited about.

So when you come back here demanding scores understand that if you don't get them it is because nobody cares about the score and certainly nobody cares enough about you to makes sure you get them either.


You sound emotionally unattached to results. Either you’re downplaying or a coach


Why would I be emotionally attached to the results of friendly?


Because your child played. That’s what parents do. I haven’t met a parent who couldn’t care less...win or lose. I don’t care what it is...especially against a rival club where the parents and players know each other. Bragging rights are always on the table.


I didn't play. Of course I am happy if my child plays well, but to be emotionally invested in the outcome? LOL

What CAN I brag about if my kid's team wins? I DIDN"T PLAY! Am I supposed to tell other parents that their kid/team sucks? Am I suppose to debase and devalue the the hard work all the kids put in just so I can brag about a result that other than paying a club and getting my kid to practice and games on time I had nothing to do with?

Sorry, what I have is perspective. It is why grandparents make the best spectators, they love watching their grandkid play without being emotionally invested in the outcome.

Tell me something, when your kids move out and get on with their lives will you still be bragging about a game they played and won when they were 14?

ENJOY watching them play and grow but the results of a friendly? C'mon man, that is pathetic.
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Anonymous wrote:I hope people don’t start posting nasty comments, setting these friendly scrimmages has been a great call from the clubs.


There is nothing wrong with the friendlies it is the weird demanding of scores at friendlies that generally gets mocked.


Tell me the difference between a friendly and a game


League games matter, friendlies don't. Playing time is different, etc.


Lol. Not much different no matter how much you downplay it.

A friendly is not a friendly to the players.


But the coaches may not play a regular lineup, try a new formation or put kids in different spots. So regardless of how serious the players take the game the coaches may have a very different motivation and approach to the game.

They do not matter but that won't stop you from demanding scores and projecting the quality of a league, club, team based on the results.


I was waiting for this response. It seems to be the go to response I hear all the time but never seen played out.

It’s absurd to suggest that coaches travel to play a rival club just to experiment. They can do that at home during inter-club scrimmages.

A coach can’t do an assessment of the team while also do new formations and moving players around.

It’s all just a built in excuse used by the losers.

Now, does the best team always perform? No


Again, your objective, your rival is not the same as the coaches.

It is now January, exactly what assessment does a coach need to make of his/her team? These are just games to try some things, shake off some rust and also to just play a game against another team.

They really just don’t mean anything. Win or lose, they don’t mean anything.

If my kids team beat yours, I have some information and that is all. If my kids team loses to yours I have some information.

You must have a U13 or U14 to be so wound up and competitive. As your kid gets older and recruiting begins your focus will primarily be on your own kids performance more than the teams. If you are a reasonable adult you will also mature and not live and die based on the results of a soccer team. The chapter begins to close as you look forward to your kids college destination.

So, once again, no, a scrimmage is a tool and nothing more.


A scrimmage/friendly/pre-season/out of conference/ whatever you want to call it is a game. Like every other game. A showcase doesn’t count, but it counts.

You rarely see two rival clubs who compete for the same pool of players scrimmage one another. Why? Because it created movement.



Tell us, what information do you obtain from the


And you are free to believe it matters. And you free to believe whatever narrative you wish to spin about friendlies. Most people do not believe they matter in the big picture. Most people take them at face value for what they are and nothing more. The players themselves do not put the stock in them, or even real games as parents do.

Most kids at the ECNL/GA level have played hundreds of games by U14 and the impact of most games is negligible to them unless something unique stood out regarding their performance.

Kids do not visit this site and kids do not monitor the soccer landscape. Kids don't know or care or follow their rankings or other clubs team rankings. This means more to you than it does than nearly anyone else.

Now that doesn't mean kids, parents and coaches don't want to see their kid and team play well. It doesn't mean kids don't always want to play and practice well but that doesn't mean friendly results are anything to either lose sleep over or get excited about.

So when you come back here demanding scores understand that if you don't get them it is because nobody cares about the score and certainly nobody cares enough about you to makes sure you get them either.


You sound emotionally unattached to results. Either you’re downplaying or a coach


Why would I be emotionally attached to the results of friendly?


Because your child played. That’s what parents do. I haven’t met a parent who couldn’t care less...win or lose. I don’t care what it is...especially against a rival club where the parents and players know each other. Bragging rights are always on the table.


I didn't play. Of course I am happy if my child plays well, but to be emotionally invested in the outcome? LOL

What CAN I brag about if my kid's team wins? I DIDN"T PLAY! Am I supposed to tell other parents that their kid/team sucks? Am I suppose to debase and devalue the the hard work all the kids put in just so I can brag about a result that other than paying a club and getting my kid to practice and games on time I had nothing to do with?

Sorry, what I have is perspective. It is why grandparents make the best spectators, they love watching their grandkid play without being emotionally invested in the outcome.

Tell me something, when your kids move out and get on with their lives will you still be bragging about a game they played and won when they were 14?

ENJOY watching them play and grow but the results of a friendly? C'mon man, that is pathetic.


You’re a coach. Am I right?
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Anonymous wrote:I hope people don’t start posting nasty comments, setting these friendly scrimmages has been a great call from the clubs.


There is nothing wrong with the friendlies it is the weird demanding of scores at friendlies that generally gets mocked.


Tell me the difference between a friendly and a game


League games matter, friendlies don't. Playing time is different, etc.


Lol. Not much different no matter how much you downplay it.

A friendly is not a friendly to the players.


But the coaches may not play a regular lineup, try a new formation or put kids in different spots. So regardless of how serious the players take the game the coaches may have a very different motivation and approach to the game.

They do not matter but that won't stop you from demanding scores and projecting the quality of a league, club, team based on the results.


I was waiting for this response. It seems to be the go to response I hear all the time but never seen played out.

It’s absurd to suggest that coaches travel to play a rival club just to experiment. They can do that at home during inter-club scrimmages.

A coach can’t do an assessment of the team while also do new formations and moving players around.

It’s all just a built in excuse used by the losers.

Now, does the best team always perform? No


Again, your objective, your rival is not the same as the coaches.

It is now January, exactly what assessment does a coach need to make of his/her team? These are just games to try some things, shake off some rust and also to just play a game against another team.

They really just don’t mean anything. Win or lose, they don’t mean anything.

If my kids team beat yours, I have some information and that is all. If my kids team loses to yours I have some information.

You must have a U13 or U14 to be so wound up and competitive. As your kid gets older and recruiting begins your focus will primarily be on your own kids performance more than the teams. If you are a reasonable adult you will also mature and not live and die based on the results of a soccer team. The chapter begins to close as you look forward to your kids college destination.

So, once again, no, a scrimmage is a tool and nothing more.


A scrimmage/friendly/pre-season/out of conference/ whatever you want to call it is a game. Like every other game. A showcase doesn’t count, but it counts.

You rarely see two rival clubs who compete for the same pool of players scrimmage one another. Why? Because it created movement.



Tell us, what information do you obtain from the


And you are free to believe it matters. And you free to believe whatever narrative you wish to spin about friendlies. Most people do not believe they matter in the big picture. Most people take them at face value for what they are and nothing more. The players themselves do not put the stock in them, or even real games as parents do.

Most kids at the ECNL/GA level have played hundreds of games by U14 and the impact of most games is negligible to them unless something unique stood out regarding their performance.

Kids do not visit this site and kids do not monitor the soccer landscape. Kids don't know or care or follow their rankings or other clubs team rankings. This means more to you than it does than nearly anyone else.

Now that doesn't mean kids, parents and coaches don't want to see their kid and team play well. It doesn't mean kids don't always want to play and practice well but that doesn't mean friendly results are anything to either lose sleep over or get excited about.

So when you come back here demanding scores understand that if you don't get them it is because nobody cares about the score and certainly nobody cares enough about you to makes sure you get them either.


You sound emotionally unattached to results. Either you’re downplaying or a coach


Why would I be emotionally attached to the results of friendly?


Because your child played. That’s what parents do. I haven’t met a parent who couldn’t care less...win or lose. I don’t care what it is...especially against a rival club where the parents and players know each other. Bragging rights are always on the table.


I didn't play. Of course I am happy if my child plays well, but to be emotionally invested in the outcome? LOL

What CAN I brag about if my kid's team wins? I DIDN"T PLAY! Am I supposed to tell other parents that their kid/team sucks? Am I suppose to debase and devalue the the hard work all the kids put in just so I can brag about a result that other than paying a club and getting my kid to practice and games on time I had nothing to do with?

Sorry, what I have is perspective. It is why grandparents make the best spectators, they love watching their grandkid play without being emotionally invested in the outcome.

Tell me something, when your kids move out and get on with their lives will you still be bragging about a game they played and won when they were 14?

ENJOY watching them play and grow but the results of a friendly? C'mon man, that is pathetic.


You’re a coach. Am I right?


No, just a parent.

I can cheer my kid on and yet not get emotionally invested im the outcome of a friendly. Perspective comes with maturity. Let me guess, your kid is a U14 or U13? This is your first time through too isn't it?
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Anonymous wrote:Let FCV play Loudoun in a friendly. Then you’ll see how much people care about a scrimmage



I can't speak for all the teams across all age groups at FCV and Loudoun but re: 07G, neither coach wants that! Both sides see it as "nothing to gain" because if they win, "well, of course we should have won! we're better than they are!" and if they lose, well, half of the parents would commit suicide and then the losing coach couldn't claim that they're still "the best"!
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Anonymous wrote:Let FCV play Loudoun in a friendly. Then you’ll see how much people care about a scrimmage



I can't speak for all the teams across all age groups at FCV and Loudoun but re: 07G, neither coach wants that! Both sides see it as "nothing to gain" because if they win, "well, of course we should have won! we're better than they are!" and if they lose, well, half of the parents would commit suicide and then the losing coach couldn't claim that they're still "the best"!


Interesting that this would be the attitude of parents of U14 players.

Makes you think?
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Anonymous wrote:Let FCV play Loudoun in a friendly. Then you’ll see how much people care about a scrimmage



I can't speak for all the teams across all age groups at FCV and Loudoun but re: 07G, neither coach wants that! Both sides see it as "nothing to gain" because if they win, "well, of course we should have won! we're better than they are!" and if they lose, well, half of the parents would commit suicide and then the losing coach couldn't claim that they're still "the best"!


Interesting that this would be the attitude of parents of U14 players.

Makes you think?


Uh. Stick around. It’s real. And yes, the kids even talk trash in the HS halls (Well, they did once upon a time). I laugh when poster say the kids don’t care. Trust me, the kids care. ECNL/GA kids are competitive. Losing should suck. If it doesn’t, well.....good luck
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Anonymous wrote:Let FCV play Loudoun in a friendly. Then you’ll see how much people care about a scrimmage



I can't speak for all the teams across all age groups at FCV and Loudoun but re: 07G, neither coach wants that! Both sides see it as "nothing to gain" because if they win, "well, of course we should have won! we're better than they are!" and if they lose, well, half of the parents would commit suicide and then the losing coach couldn't claim that they're still "the best"!


Interesting that this would be the attitude of parents of U14 players.

Makes you think?


Uh. Stick around. It’s real. And yes, the kids even talk trash in the HS halls (Well, they did once upon a time). I laugh when poster say the kids don’t care. Trust me, the kids care. ECNL/GA kids are competitive. Losing should suck. If it doesn’t, well.....good luck


U14 parent?
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Anonymous wrote:I hope people don’t start posting nasty comments, setting these friendly scrimmages has been a great call from the clubs.


There is nothing wrong with the friendlies it is the weird demanding of scores at friendlies that generally gets mocked.


Tell me the difference between a friendly and a game


League games matter, friendlies don't. Playing time is different, etc.


Lol. Not much different no matter how much you downplay it.

A friendly is not a friendly to the players.


But the coaches may not play a regular lineup, try a new formation or put kids in different spots. So regardless of how serious the players take the game the coaches may have a very different motivation and approach to the game.

They do not matter but that won't stop you from demanding scores and projecting the quality of a league, club, team based on the results.


I was waiting for this response. It seems to be the go to response I hear all the time but never seen played out.

It’s absurd to suggest that coaches travel to play a rival club just to experiment. They can do that at home during inter-club scrimmages.

A coach can’t do an assessment of the team while also do new formations and moving players around.

It’s all just a built in excuse used by the losers.

Now, does the best team always perform? No


Again, your objective, your rival is not the same as the coaches.

It is now January, exactly what assessment does a coach need to make of his/her team? These are just games to try some things, shake off some rust and also to just play a game against another team.

They really just don’t mean anything. Win or lose, they don’t mean anything.

If my kids team beat yours, I have some information and that is all. If my kids team loses to yours I have some information.

You must have a U13 or U14 to be so wound up and competitive. As your kid gets older and recruiting begins your focus will primarily be on your own kids performance more than the teams. If you are a reasonable adult you will also mature and not live and die based on the results of a soccer team. The chapter begins to close as you look forward to your kids college destination.

So, once again, no, a scrimmage is a tool and nothing more.


A scrimmage/friendly/pre-season/out of conference/ whatever you want to call it is a game. Like every other game. A showcase doesn’t count, but it counts.

You rarely see two rival clubs who compete for the same pool of players scrimmage one another. Why? Because it created movement.



Tell us, what information do you obtain from the


And you are free to believe it matters. And you free to believe whatever narrative you wish to spin about friendlies. Most people do not believe they matter in the big picture. Most people take them at face value for what they are and nothing more. The players themselves do not put the stock in them, or even real games as parents do.

Most kids at the ECNL/GA level have played hundreds of games by U14 and the impact of most games is negligible to them unless something unique stood out regarding their performance.

Kids do not visit this site and kids do not monitor the soccer landscape. Kids don't know or care or follow their rankings or other clubs team rankings. This means more to you than it does than nearly anyone else.

Now that doesn't mean kids, parents and coaches don't want to see their kid and team play well. It doesn't mean kids don't always want to play and practice well but that doesn't mean friendly results are anything to either lose sleep over or get excited about.

So when you come back here demanding scores understand that if you don't get them it is because nobody cares about the score and certainly nobody cares enough about you to makes sure you get them either.


You sound emotionally unattached to results. Either you’re downplaying or a coach


Why would I be emotionally attached to the results of friendly?


Because your child played. That’s what parents do. I haven’t met a parent who couldn’t care less...win or lose. I don’t care what it is...especially against a rival club where the parents and players know each other. Bragging rights are always on the table.


I didn't play. Of course I am happy if my child plays well, but to be emotionally invested in the outcome? LOL

What CAN I brag about if my kid's team wins? I DIDN"T PLAY! Am I supposed to tell other parents that their kid/team sucks? Am I suppose to debase and devalue the the hard work all the kids put in just so I can brag about a result that other than paying a club and getting my kid to practice and games on time I had nothing to do with?

Sorry, what I have is perspective. It is why grandparents make the best spectators, they love watching their grandkid play without being emotionally invested in the outcome.

Tell me something, when your kids move out and get on with their lives will you still be bragging about a game they played and won when they were 14?

ENJOY watching them play and grow but the results of a friendly? C'mon man, that is pathetic.


You’re a coach. Am I right?


No, just a parent.

I can cheer my kid on and yet not get emotionally invested im the outcome of a friendly. Perspective comes with maturity. Let me guess, your kid is a U14 or U13? This is your first time through too isn't it?


U16. Third kid at that. I respect your maturity. However, it’s the exception not the norm. parents are competitive
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