ECNL and GA Friendly Scrimmages this weekend

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Anonymous wrote:ECNL trolling hard lately. Might be losing clubs to GA soon.

Biggest troll statement of the year. Go figure. A troll calling someone else a troll.

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Anonymous wrote:You NoVA folks have lost your minds. FCV and McLean still attract significant talent. Arlington is keeping its talent for the most part. BRYC is done. Metro United is done. VDA will produce a good team here and there but don't have the geographical pull to be anything other than a competitive club. The wildcards are Loudoun and GA. If FCV can't get into ECNL and GA dies, FCV has lost is pull. Loudoun will benefit. Arlington will return to feeding McLean. BRYC might recover it it manages with FCV.

As other PP stated, 05-03 is under an old order. The 06 teams and below is new era. VDA producing high quality teams in this age group (06/08s) as well as Loudoun. The only constant for all age groups seems to be Richmond United as they don't have to fight amongst themselves. The whole Arlington and FCV not being in ENCL is real and they'll rot on the vine.

The poster is a .......There is no old order and new order. Apply a higher level of thinking when it comes to deal with posters.

NOVA cam absolutely field 4 NOVA teams. That’s not issue. It’s the 4 ECNL and 3 GA that allows for “watering down”

The GA will die off. If they plucked FCV and Tophat for the east coast GA is dead in this area.

FCV will not get ECNL. They will have to move. ECNL gave their spot Loudoun. They will not create a situation where they have to fight for the same pool. Whether you like it or not, Loudoun is the biggest pool in VA.

If FCV shut down operations at Evergreen, which they may because they are owned by a group in Springfield, Loudoun will become a force. If FCV moved to BRYC, they would be 10 minutes from TSJ....who they are owned by. They then create a partnership and get back in ECNL will creating new customers for TSJ.

How long do you think TSJ, who is dealing with the financial hardships from COVID, will allow their team to pay fees at evergreen versus pocketing the money?

Arlington will reestablish a partnership with McLean.

So you’re telling me that the one thing keeping Loudoun from being a force is a girls soccer club that can barely manage two teams per age group?

1. Loudoun girls first issue is the arrogance that came with the huge player pool.
2. The way they treated parents and players
3. Losing every good player after U13 to FCV
4. Not having an elite platform
5. More arrogance and nepotism.
6. Too much parent involvement

Loudoun, without a shadow of a doubt, COULD become the greatest force in NOVA. First, they wil have to create an environment that allows for it.

If FCV moves to Springfield and Metros, who is not even a player but has some good players, falls out of favor with players because of the weakness of the GA, BRYC will strengthen. Same thing with Arlington that will strengthen McLean.

Here’s what you will have.

PWC - VDA
Loudoun - Loudoun
Western- Central Fairfax - BRYC
Northern Fairfax and Arlington- McLean

As soon a GA clubs except their demise, thing will get back to normal. It’s coming. Just a question how fast.

That doesn't mean any of those best GA players will flock to Loudoun. They haven't proven anything to top players and, frankly, assuming the GA demise, Loudoun will still not attract those players. What Will happen is McLean, VDA and BRYC will get stronger.

The nepotism, arrogance that is Loudoun will be even worse without GA.

I'm sorry, but Loudoun is not, and never will be a destination club with the current leadership. They are nothing more than the biggest Rec club in Virginia. Their money is made in rec and the lower travel teams. They are not incentivized to improve ECNL or change the way they are doing things.

Let’s get a few things straight.

Kids don’t flock to Loudoun. Loudoun already has them. They don’t need to be a destination club. They need the ability to hold what they have.

Let’s be crystal clear, it is FCV that needs Loudouns players. FCV does not have a pool. Think about that. Really really let that sink in. Zero pool.

Truth be told, it’s Arlington l, Loudoun and VDA that should have ECNL and everyone else can go.

Now, that’s not going to happen but that is where the true player pools are.

They don't need kids to flock to them?

WOW, talk about arrogance. Good luck with that.

You understand that kids flock to PDA, Top Hat etc. They do not rely on kids they selected at 8-9 years old and assume that's all they'll ever need.

1. I bet you have zero understanding how Tophat, PDA, Hawks, Solar, Surf, Stars, Courage, Texans, and other big name club you want to name works.
2. You twisted my words to make a stupid point without having understanding of the landscape. I said, and I stand by it, that Loudoun has the biggest player pool in Virginia. Once you accept that you will accept the fact that their issue isn’t about attracting players. It’s retaining players.
3. FCV issue is the opposite. They must attract players. Hence the non-stop marketing. The issue for them is two fold now. One is Loudoun has ECNL. The second is GA is dying and clubs that remain in it will find it hard to retain and attract talent. Clubs like FCV who rely of other club pools will struggle.

For the record, we are not a Loudoun Soccer family and not personally a fan. However, I can easily see what’s in front of me.

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Anonymous wrote:You NoVA folks have lost your minds. FCV and McLean still attract significant talent. Arlington is keeping its talent for the most part. BRYC is done. Metro United is done. VDA will produce a good team here and there but don't have the geographical pull to be anything other than a competitive club. The wildcards are Loudoun and GA. If FCV can't get into ECNL and GA dies, FCV has lost is pull. Loudoun will benefit. Arlington will return to feeding McLean. BRYC might recover it it manages with FCV.

As other PP stated, 05-03 is under an old order. The 06 teams and below is new era. VDA producing high quality teams in this age group (06/08s) as well as Loudoun. The only constant for all age groups seems to be Richmond United as they don't have to fight amongst themselves. The whole Arlington and FCV not being in ENCL is real and they'll rot on the vine.

The poster is a .......There is no old order and new order. Apply a higher level of thinking when it comes to deal with posters.

NOVA cam absolutely field 4 NOVA teams. That’s not issue. It’s the 4 ECNL and 3 GA that allows for “watering down”

The GA will die off. If they plucked FCV and Tophat for the east coast GA is dead in this area.

FCV will not get ECNL. They will have to move. ECNL gave their spot Loudoun. They will not create a situation where they have to fight for the same pool. Whether you like it or not, Loudoun is the biggest pool in VA.

If FCV shut down operations at Evergreen, which they may because they are owned by a group in Springfield, Loudoun will become a force. If FCV moved to BRYC, they would be 10 minutes from TSJ....who they are owned by. They then create a partnership and get back in ECNL will creating new customers for TSJ.

How long do you think TSJ, who is dealing with the financial hardships from COVID, will allow their team to pay fees at evergreen versus pocketing the money?

Arlington will reestablish a partnership with McLean.

So you’re telling me that the one thing keeping Loudoun from being a force is a girls soccer club that can barely manage two teams per age group?

1. Loudoun girls first issue is the arrogance that came with the huge player pool.
2. The way they treated parents and players
3. Losing every good player after U13 to FCV
4. Not having an elite platform
5. More arrogance and nepotism.
6. Too much parent involvement

Loudoun, without a shadow of a doubt, COULD become the greatest force in NOVA. First, they wil have to create an environment that allows for it.

If FCV moves to Springfield and Metros, who is not even a player but has some good players, falls out of favor with players because of the weakness of the GA, BRYC will strengthen. Same thing with Arlington that will strengthen McLean.

Here’s what you will have.

PWC - VDA
Loudoun - Loudoun
Western- Central Fairfax - BRYC
Northern Fairfax and Arlington- McLean

As soon a GA clubs except their demise, thing will get back to normal. It’s coming. Just a question how fast.

That doesn't mean any of those best GA players will flock to Loudoun. They haven't proven anything to top players and, frankly, assuming the GA demise, Loudoun will still not attract those players. What Will happen is McLean, VDA and BRYC will get stronger.

The nepotism, arrogance that is Loudoun will be even worse without GA.

I'm sorry, but Loudoun is not, and never will be a destination club with the current leadership. They are nothing more than the biggest Rec club in Virginia. Their money is made in rec and the lower travel teams. They are not incentivized to improve ECNL or change the way they are doing things.

Let’s get a few things straight.

Kids don’t flock to Loudoun. Loudoun already has them. They don’t need to be a destination club. They need the ability to hold what they have.

Let’s be crystal clear, it is FCV that needs Loudouns players. FCV does not have a pool. Think about that. Really really let that sink in. Zero pool.

Truth be told, it’s Arlington l, Loudoun and VDA that should have ECNL and everyone else can go.

Now, that’s not going to happen but that is where the true player pools are.

They don't need kids to flock to them?

WOW, talk about arrogance. Good luck with that.

You understand that kids flock to PDA, Top Hat etc. They do not rely on kids they selected at 8-9 years old and assume that's all they'll ever need.

1. I bet you have zero understanding how Tophat, PDA, Hawks, Solar, Surf, Stars, Courage, Texans, and other big name club you want to name works.
2. You twisted my words to make a stupid point without having understanding of the landscape. I said, and I stand by it, that Loudoun has the biggest player pool in Virginia. Once you accept that you will accept the fact that their issue isn’t about attracting players. It’s retaining players.
3. FCV issue is the opposite. They must attract players. Hence the non-stop marketing. The issue for them is two fold now. One is Loudoun has ECNL. The second is GA is dying and clubs that remain in it will find it hard to retain and attract talent. Clubs like FCV who rely of other club pools will struggle.

For the record, we are not a Loudoun Soccer family and not personally a fan. However, I can easily see what’s in front of me.

You completely don't understand that Loudoun has squandered its player pool for years and will continue to do so. Loudoun seems to miss the point that a player pool is only half the equation. The other half is quality cohesive development across the entire club. There is no implemented style of play. There is no real coaching oversight. And all of this is fine for 95% of the players at the club, the ones who are on team B through Z. But they don't offer a true in club pathway and their top teams are stagnant through the years. They will never be a force because they will not do the hard work to become one, instead they just sit back and cash their rec checks.

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Anonymous wrote:You NoVA folks have lost your minds. FCV and McLean still attract significant talent. Arlington is keeping its talent for the most part. BRYC is done. Metro United is done. VDA will produce a good team here and there but don't have the geographical pull to be anything other than a competitive club. The wildcards are Loudoun and GA. If FCV can't get into ECNL and GA dies, FCV has lost is pull. Loudoun will benefit. Arlington will return to feeding McLean. BRYC might recover it it manages with FCV.

As other PP stated, 05-03 is under an old order. The 06 teams and below is new era. VDA producing high quality teams in this age group (06/08s) as well as Loudoun. The only constant for all age groups seems to be Richmond United as they don't have to fight amongst themselves. The whole Arlington and FCV not being in ENCL is real and they'll rot on the vine.

The poster is a .......There is no old order and new order. Apply a higher level of thinking when it comes to deal with posters.

NOVA cam absolutely field 4 NOVA teams. That’s not issue. It’s the 4 ECNL and 3 GA that allows for “watering down”

The GA will die off. If they plucked FCV and Tophat for the east coast GA is dead in this area.

FCV will not get ECNL. They will have to move. ECNL gave their spot Loudoun. They will not create a situation where they have to fight for the same pool. Whether you like it or not, Loudoun is the biggest pool in VA.

If FCV shut down operations at Evergreen, which they may because they are owned by a group in Springfield, Loudoun will become a force. If FCV moved to BRYC, they would be 10 minutes from TSJ....who they are owned by. They then create a partnership and get back in ECNL will creating new customers for TSJ.

How long do you think TSJ, who is dealing with the financial hardships from COVID, will allow their team to pay fees at evergreen versus pocketing the money?

Arlington will reestablish a partnership with McLean.

So you’re telling me that the one thing keeping Loudoun from being a force is a girls soccer club that can barely manage two teams per age group?

1. Loudoun girls first issue is the arrogance that came with the huge player pool.
2. The way they treated parents and players
3. Losing every good player after U13 to FCV
4. Not having an elite platform
5. More arrogance and nepotism.
6. Too much parent involvement

Loudoun, without a shadow of a doubt, COULD become the greatest force in NOVA. First, they wil have to create an environment that allows for it.

If FCV moves to Springfield and Metros, who is not even a player but has some good players, falls out of favor with players because of the weakness of the GA, BRYC will strengthen. Same thing with Arlington that will strengthen McLean.

Here’s what you will have.

PWC - VDA
Loudoun - Loudoun
Western- Central Fairfax - BRYC
Northern Fairfax and Arlington- McLean

As soon a GA clubs except their demise, thing will get back to normal. It’s coming. Just a question how fast.

That doesn't mean any of those best GA players will flock to Loudoun. They haven't proven anything to top players and, frankly, assuming the GA demise, Loudoun will still not attract those players. What Will happen is McLean, VDA and BRYC will get stronger.

The nepotism, arrogance that is Loudoun will be even worse without GA.

I'm sorry, but Loudoun is not, and never will be a destination club with the current leadership. They are nothing more than the biggest Rec club in Virginia. Their money is made in rec and the lower travel teams. They are not incentivized to improve ECNL or change the way they are doing things.

Let’s get a few things straight.

Kids don’t flock to Loudoun. Loudoun already has them. They don’t need to be a destination club. They need the ability to hold what they have.

Let’s be crystal clear, it is FCV that needs Loudouns players. FCV does not have a pool. Think about that. Really really let that sink in. Zero pool.

Truth be told, it’s Arlington l, Loudoun and VDA that should have ECNL and everyone else can go.

Now, that’s not going to happen but that is where the true player pools are.

They don't need kids to flock to them?

WOW, talk about arrogance. Good luck with that.

You understand that kids flock to PDA, Top Hat etc. They do not rely on kids they selected at 8-9 years old and assume that's all they'll ever need.

1. I bet you have zero understanding how Tophat, PDA, Hawks, Solar, Surf, Stars, Courage, Texans, and other big name club you want to name works.
2. You twisted my words to make a stupid point without having understanding of the landscape. I said, and I stand by it, that Loudoun has the biggest player pool in Virginia. Once you accept that you will accept the fact that their issue isn’t about attracting players. It’s retaining players.
3. FCV issue is the opposite. They must attract players. Hence the non-stop marketing. The issue for them is two fold now. One is Loudoun has ECNL. The second is GA is dying and clubs that remain in it will find it hard to retain and attract talent. Clubs like FCV who rely of other club pools will struggle.

For the record, we are not a Loudoun Soccer family and not personally a fan. However, I can easily see what’s in front of me.

You completely don't understand that Loudoun has squandered its player pool for years and will continue to do so. Loudoun seems to miss the point that a player pool is only half the equation. The other half is quality cohesive development across the entire club. There is no implemented style of play. There is no real coaching oversight. And all of this is fine for 95% of the players at the club, the ones who are on team B through Z. But they don't offer a true in club pathway and their ltop teams are stagnant through the years. They will never be a force because they will not do the hard work to become one, instead they just sit ck and cash their rec checks.

I 100 percent do Understand that. I agree wholeheartedly. Their arrogance has been their downfall. They have it too easy. They never had to work for it. My kid was a part of Loudoun very early on. I left and have never looked back. BUT, I’m no fool. They have the money, power and facilities, with an unlimited amount to kids in the most affluent county in the country. IF they revamped their girls side and show success, it’s over.

Loudoun County, Western PWC, and Western Fairfax are the powerhouse regions in NOVA for girls soccer.

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Anonymous wrote:You NoVA folks have lost your minds. FCV and McLean still attract significant talent. Arlington is keeping its talent for the most part. BRYC is done. Metro United is done. VDA will produce a good team here and there but don't have the geographical pull to be anything other than a competitive club. The wildcards are Loudoun and GA. If FCV can't get into ECNL and GA dies, FCV has lost is pull. Loudoun will benefit. Arlington will return to feeding McLean. BRYC might recover it it manages with FCV.

As other PP stated, 05-03 is under an old order. The 06 teams and below is new era. VDA producing high quality teams in this age group (06/08s) as well as Loudoun. The only constant for all age groups seems to be Richmond United as they don't have to fight amongst themselves. The whole Arlington and FCV not being in ENCL is real and they'll rot on the vine.

The poster is a .......There is no old order and new order. Apply a higher level of thinking when it comes to deal with posters.

NOVA cam absolutely field 4 NOVA teams. That’s not issue. It’s the 4 ECNL and 3 GA that allows for “watering down”

The GA will die off. If they plucked FCV and Tophat for the east coast GA is dead in this area.

FCV will not get ECNL. They will have to move. ECNL gave their spot Loudoun. They will not create a situation where they have to fight for the same pool. Whether you like it or not, Loudoun is the biggest pool in VA.

If FCV shut down operations at Evergreen, which they may because they are owned by a group in Springfield, Loudoun will become a force. If FCV moved to BRYC, they would be 10 minutes from TSJ....who they are owned by. They then create a partnership and get back in ECNL will creating new customers for TSJ.

How long do you think TSJ, who is dealing with the financial hardships from COVID, will allow their team to pay fees at evergreen versus pocketing the money?

Arlington will reestablish a partnership with McLean.

So you’re telling me that the one thing keeping Loudoun from being a force is a girls soccer club that can barely manage two teams per age group?

1. Loudoun girls first issue is the arrogance that came with the huge player pool.
2. The way they treated parents and players
3. Losing every good player after U13 to FCV
4. Not having an elite platform
5. More arrogance and nepotism.
6. Too much parent involvement

Loudoun, without a shadow of a doubt, COULD become the greatest force in NOVA. First, they wil have to create an environment that allows for it.

If FCV moves to Springfield and Metros, who is not even a player but has some good players, falls out of favor with players because of the weakness of the GA, BRYC will strengthen. Same thing with Arlington that will strengthen McLean.

Here’s what you will have.

PWC - VDA
Loudoun - Loudoun
Western- Central Fairfax - BRYC
Northern Fairfax and Arlington- McLean

As soon a GA clubs except their demise, thing will get back to normal. It’s coming. Just a question how fast.

That doesn't mean any of those best GA players will flock to Loudoun. They haven't proven anything to top players and, frankly, assuming the GA demise, Loudoun will still not attract those players. What Will happen is McLean, VDA and BRYC will get stronger.

The nepotism, arrogance that is Loudoun will be even worse without GA.

I'm sorry, but Loudoun is not, and never will be a destination club with the current leadership. They are nothing more than the biggest Rec club in Virginia. Their money is made in rec and the lower travel teams. They are not incentivized to improve ECNL or change the way they are doing things.

Let’s get a few things straight.

Kids don’t flock to Loudoun. Loudoun already has them. They don’t need to be a destination club. They need the ability to hold what they have.

Let’s be crystal clear, it is FCV that needs Loudouns players. FCV does not have a pool. Think about that. Really really let that sink in. Zero pool.

Truth be told, it’s Arlington l, Loudoun and VDA that should have ECNL and everyone else can go.

Now, that’s not going to happen but that is where the true player pools are.

They don't need kids to flock to them?

WOW, talk about arrogance. Good luck with that.

You understand that kids flock to PDA, Top Hat etc. They do not rely on kids they selected at 8-9 years old and assume that's all they'll ever need.

1. I bet you have zero understanding how Tophat, PDA, Hawks, Solar, Surf, Stars, Courage, Texans, and other big name club you want to name works.
2. You twisted my words to make a stupid point without having understanding of the landscape. I said, and I stand by it, that Loudoun has the biggest player pool in Virginia. Once you accept that you will accept the fact that their issue isn’t about attracting players. It’s retaining players.
3. FCV issue is the opposite. They must attract players. Hence the non-stop marketing. The issue for them is two fold now. One is Loudoun has ECNL. The second is GA is dying and clubs that remain in it will find it hard to retain and attract talent. Clubs like FCV who rely of other club pools will struggle.

For the record, we are not a Loudoun Soccer family and not personally a fan. However, I can easily see what’s in front of me.

You completely don't understand that Loudoun has squandered its player pool for years and will continue to do so. Loudoun seems to miss the point that a player pool is only half the equation. The other half is quality cohesive development across the entire club. There is no implemented style of play. There is no real coaching oversight. And all of this is fine for 95% of the players at the club, the ones who are on team B through Z. But they don't offer a true in club pathway and their ltop teams are stagnant through the years. They will never be a force because they will not do the hard work to become one, instead they just sit ck and cash their rec checks.

I 100 percent do Understand that. I agree wholeheartedly. Their arrogance has been their downfall. They have it too easy. They never had to work for it. My kid was a part of Loudoun very early on. I left and have never looked back. BUT, I’m no fool. They have the money, power and facilities, with an unlimited amount to kids in the most affluent county in the country. IF they revamped their girls side and show success, it’s over.

Loudoun County, Western PWC, and Western Fairfax are the powerhouse regions in NOVA for girls soccer.

And as long as Loudoun leadership stays in tact it will never happen. Top talent will just head to VDA or McLean.

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Anonymous wrote:You NoVA folks have lost your minds. FCV and McLean still attract significant talent. Arlington is keeping its talent for the most part. BRYC is done. Metro United is done. VDA will produce a good team here and there but don't have the geographical pull to be anything other than a competitive club. The wildcards are Loudoun and GA. If FCV can't get into ECNL and GA dies, FCV has lost is pull. Loudoun will benefit. Arlington will return to feeding McLean. BRYC might recover it it manages with FCV.

As other PP stated, 05-03 is under an old order. The 06 teams and below is new era. VDA producing high quality teams in this age group (06/08s) as well as Loudoun. The only constant for all age groups seems to be Richmond United as they don't have to fight amongst themselves. The whole Arlington and FCV not being in ENCL is real and they'll rot on the vine.

The poster is a .......There is no old order and new order. Apply a higher level of thinking when it comes to deal with posters.

NOVA cam absolutely field 4 NOVA teams. That’s not issue. It’s the 4 ECNL and 3 GA that allows for “watering down”

The GA will die off. If they plucked FCV and Tophat for the east coast GA is dead in this area.

FCV will not get ECNL. They will have to move. ECNL gave their spot Loudoun. They will not create a situation where they have to fight for the same pool. Whether you like it or not, Loudoun is the biggest pool in VA.

If FCV shut down operations at Evergreen, which they may because they are owned by a group in Springfield, Loudoun will become a force. If FCV moved to BRYC, they would be 10 minutes from TSJ....who they are owned by. They then create a partnership and get back in ECNL will creating new customers for TSJ.

How long do you think TSJ, who is dealing with the financial hardships from COVID, will allow their team to pay fees at evergreen versus pocketing the money?

Arlington will reestablish a partnership with McLean.

So you’re telling me that the one thing keeping Loudoun from being a force is a girls soccer club that can barely manage two teams per age group?

1. Loudoun girls first issue is the arrogance that came with the huge player pool.
2. The way they treated parents and players
3. Losing every good player after U13 to FCV
4. Not having an elite platform
5. More arrogance and nepotism.
6. Too much parent involvement

Loudoun, without a shadow of a doubt, COULD become the greatest force in NOVA. First, they wil have to create an environment that allows for it.

If FCV moves to Springfield and Metros, who is not even a player but has some good players, falls out of favor with players because of the weakness of the GA, BRYC will strengthen. Same thing with Arlington that will strengthen McLean.

Here’s what you will have.

PWC - VDA
Loudoun - Loudoun
Western- Central Fairfax - BRYC
Northern Fairfax and Arlington- McLean

As soon a GA clubs except their demise, thing will get back to normal. It’s coming. Just a question how fast.

That doesn't mean any of those best GA players will flock to Loudoun. They haven't proven anything to top players and, frankly, assuming the GA demise, Loudoun will still not attract those players. What Will happen is McLean, VDA and BRYC will get stronger.

The nepotism, arrogance that is Loudoun will be even worse without GA.

I'm sorry, but Loudoun is not, and never will be a destination club with the current leadership. They are nothing more than the biggest Rec club in Virginia. Their money is made in rec and the lower travel teams. They are not incentivized to improve ECNL or change the way they are doing things.

Let’s get a few things straight.

Kids don’t flock to Loudoun. Loudoun already has them. They don’t need to be a destination club. They need the ability to hold what they have.

Let’s be crystal clear, it is FCV that needs Loudouns players. FCV does not have a pool. Think about that. Really really let that sink in. Zero pool.

Truth be told, it’s Arlington l, Loudoun and VDA that should have ECNL and everyone else can go.

Now, that’s not going to happen but that is where the true player pools are.

They don't need kids to flock to them?

WOW, talk about arrogance. Good luck with that.

You understand that kids flock to PDA, Top Hat etc. They do not rely on kids they selected at 8-9 years old and assume that's all they'll ever need.

1. I bet you have zero understanding how Tophat, PDA, Hawks, Solar, Surf, Stars, Courage, Texans, and other big name club you want to name works.
2. You twisted my words to make a stupid point without having understanding of the landscape. I said, and I stand by it, that Loudoun has the biggest player pool in Virginia. Once you accept that you will accept the fact that their issue isn’t about attracting players. It’s retaining players.
3. FCV issue is the opposite. They must attract players. Hence the non-stop marketing. The issue for them is two fold now. One is Loudoun has ECNL. The second is GA is dying and clubs that remain in it will find it hard to retain and attract talent. Clubs like FCV who rely of other club pools will struggle.

For the record, we are not a Loudoun Soccer family and not personally a fan. However, I can easily see what’s in front of me.

You completely don't understand that Loudoun has squandered its player pool for years and will continue to do so. Loudoun seems to miss the point that a player pool is only half the equation. The other half is quality cohesive development across the entire club. There is no implemented style of play. There is no real coaching oversight. And all of this is fine for 95% of the players at the club, the ones who are on team B through Z. But they don't offer a true in club pathway and their ltop teams are stagnant through the years. They will never be a force because they will not do the hard work to become one, instead they just sit ck and cash their rec checks.

I 100 percent do Understand that. I agree wholeheartedly. Their arrogance has been their downfall. They have it too easy. They never had to work for it. My kid was a part of Loudoun very early on. I left and have never looked back. BUT, I’m no fool. They have the money, power and facilities, with an unlimited amount to kids in the most affluent county in the country. IF they revamped their girls side and show success, it’s over.

Loudoun County, Western PWC, and Western Fairfax are the powerhouse regions in NOVA for girls soccer.

And as long as Loudoun leadership stays in tact it will never happen. Top talent will just head to VDA or McLean.

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Anonymous wrote:You NoVA folks have lost your minds. FCV and McLean still attract significant talent. Arlington is keeping its talent for the most part. BRYC is done. Metro United is done. VDA will produce a good team here and there but don't have the geographical pull to be anything other than a competitive club. The wildcards are Loudoun and GA. If FCV can't get into ECNL and GA dies, FCV has lost is pull. Loudoun will benefit. Arlington will return to feeding McLean. BRYC might recover it it manages with FCV.

As other PP stated, 05-03 is under an old order. The 06 teams and below is new era. VDA producing high quality teams in this age group (06/08s) as well as Loudoun. The only constant for all age groups seems to be Richmond United as they don't have to fight amongst themselves. The whole Arlington and FCV not being in ENCL is real and they'll rot on the vine.

The poster is a .......There is no old order and new order. Apply a higher level of thinking when it comes to deal with posters.

NOVA cam absolutely field 4 NOVA teams. That’s not issue. It’s the 4 ECNL and 3 GA that allows for “watering down”

The GA will die off. If they plucked FCV and Tophat for the east coast GA is dead in this area.

FCV will not get ECNL. They will have to move. ECNL gave their spot Loudoun. They will not create a situation where they have to fight for the same pool. Whether you like it or not, Loudoun is the biggest pool in VA.

If FCV shut down operations at Evergreen, which they may because they are owned by a group in Springfield, Loudoun will become a force. If FCV moved to BRYC, they would be 10 minutes from TSJ....who they are owned by. They then create a partnership and get back in ECNL will creating new customers for TSJ.

How long do you think TSJ, who is dealing with the financial hardships from COVID, will allow their team to pay fees at evergreen versus pocketing the money?

Arlington will reestablish a partnership with McLean.

So you’re telling me that the one thing keeping Loudoun from being a force is a girls soccer club that can barely manage two teams per age group?

1. Loudoun girls first issue is the arrogance that came with the huge player pool.
2. The way they treated parents and players
3. Losing every good player after U13 to FCV
4. Not having an elite platform
5. More arrogance and nepotism.
6. Too much parent involvement

Loudoun, without a shadow of a doubt, COULD become the greatest force in NOVA. First, they wil have to create an environment that allows for it.

If FCV moves to Springfield and Metros, who is not even a player but has some good players, falls out of favor with players because of the weakness of the GA, BRYC will strengthen. Same thing with Arlington that will strengthen McLean.

Here’s what you will have.

PWC - VDA
Loudoun - Loudoun
Western- Central Fairfax - BRYC
Northern Fairfax and Arlington- McLean

As soon a GA clubs except their demise, thing will get back to normal. It’s coming. Just a question how fast.

That doesn't mean any of those best GA players will flock to Loudoun. They haven't proven anything to top players and, frankly, assuming the GA demise, Loudoun will still not attract those players. What Will happen is McLean, VDA and BRYC will get stronger.

The nepotism, arrogance that is Loudoun will be even worse without GA.

I'm sorry, but Loudoun is not, and never will be a destination club with the current leadership. They are nothing more than the biggest Rec club in Virginia. Their money is made in rec and the lower travel teams. They are not incentivized to improve ECNL or change the way they are doing things.

Let’s get a few things straight.

Kids don’t flock to Loudoun. Loudoun already has them. They don’t need to be a destination club. They need the ability to hold what they have.

Let’s be crystal clear, it is FCV that needs Loudouns players. FCV does not have a pool. Think about that. Really really let that sink in. Zero pool.

Truth be told, it’s Arlington l, Loudoun and VDA that should have ECNL and everyone else can go.

Now, that’s not going to happen but that is where the true player pools are.

They don't need kids to flock to them?

WOW, talk about arrogance. Good luck with that.

You understand that kids flock to PDA, Top Hat etc. They do not rely on kids they selected at 8-9 years old and assume that's all they'll ever need.

1. I bet you have zero understanding how Tophat, PDA, Hawks, Solar, Surf, Stars, Courage, Texans, and other big name club you want to name works.
2. You twisted my words to make a stupid point without having understanding of the landscape. I said, and I stand by it, that Loudoun has the biggest player pool in Virginia. Once you accept that you will accept the fact that their issue isn’t about attracting players. It’s retaining players.
3. FCV issue is the opposite. They must attract players. Hence the non-stop marketing. The issue for them is two fold now. One is Loudoun has ECNL. The second is GA is dying and clubs that remain in it will find it hard to retain and attract talent. Clubs like FCV who rely of other club pools will struggle.

For the record, we are not a Loudoun Soccer family and not personally a fan. However, I can easily see what’s in front of me.

You completely don't understand that Loudoun has squandered its player pool for years and will continue to do so. Loudoun seems to miss the point that a player pool is only half the equation. The other half is quality cohesive development across the entire club. There is no implemented style of play. There is no real coaching oversight. And all of this is fine for 95% of the players at the club, the ones who are on team B through Z. But they don't offer a true in club pathway and their ltop teams are stagnant through the years. They will never be a force because they will not do the hard work to become one, instead they just sit ck and cash their rec checks.

I 100 percent do Understand that. I agree wholeheartedly. Their arrogance has been their downfall. They have it too easy. They never had to work for it. My kid was a part of Loudoun very early on. I left and have never looked back. BUT, I’m no fool. They have the money, power and facilities, with an unlimited amount to kids in the most affluent county in the country. IF they revamped their girls side and show success, it’s over.

Loudoun County, Western PWC, and Western Fairfax are the powerhouse regions in NOVA for girls soccer.

And as long as Loudoun leadership stays in tact it will never happen. Top talent will just head to VDA or McLean.

Perhaps.

And if the players don't leave the coaching is not sophisticated enough to maximize the player pool they have. IN the younger ages they simply relied on athletes to win when it is easy to win that way. They never sacrifice a U11 loss for the development of their players. When they get older they tend to find out that other teams have big fast kids too and they just don't have anything left in the tank, tactic or technique wise to grow as players and as teams.

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Interesting news from Pipeline. Both players were developed as u9 and u10, playing for the same coach. I am not the famed 'Pipeline Dad,' but you have to give the club credit. Besides Richmond and FCV, Pipeline is the only club with teams in the top bracket of most age groups.

2 PIPELINE SC PLAYERS INVITED TO U17 U.S. WOMEN’S NATIONAL TEAM TRAINING CAMP


Two members of Pipeline Soccer Club, Finley Lavin & Hannah Jibril, both 15 years of age, has been invited to join the U-17 U.S. Women’s National Team Virtual Camp. Lavin and Jibril will be among those competing for a spot on the roster that will play in next year’s FIFA U17 Women’s World Cup in India. By their selection, Lavin and Jibril become the first Pipeline players selected by a U.S. National Team, an honor reserved for the top players in American soccer. Lavin has played for Pipeline SC since she was 8-years-old and currently plays on the club’s 2002 ECNL team, coached by former U.S. Men’s National Team player and Club co-founder, Santino Quaranta. Jibril who began Pipeline at 9 years old, currently plays for the 2004 ECNL team, coached by ECNL Director, Danny Skelton. Both players spent 4 seasons with coach Tommy Quaranta at Pipeline.

“We are thrilled for Finley and Hannah for this tremendous accomplishment,” Quaranta said. “The pool of players at the National Team level are separated by very little. Fin has the willingness to work and suffer for her teammates on the field, which makes her great. The soccer ability speaks for itself. Hannah consistently proves to be one of the best attacking players in the region playing a year up. Her creative and fearless mindset will drive her as she fights for a spot on the U17 World Cup roster next summer”

Due to COVID-19 restrictions, the National Team has seen limited action and much of Lavin and Jibril’s initial engagement with the team will be remote.

“I am extremely grateful for this amazing opportunity and couldn’t be more excited to train with some of the best players in the nation,” Lavin said.

“I’m ecstatic to be selected, but I understand there is more to be done. Hopefully, this is the start of a long awaited journey” Jibril said

For more information about USA U17 National team visit : https://www.ussoccer.com/teams/u-17-womens-national-team

For more information about Pipeline SC visit www.pipelinesoccerclub.com

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting news from Pipeline. Both players were developed as u9 and u10, playing for the same coach. I am not the famed 'Pipeline Dad,' but you have to give the club credit. Besides Richmond and FCV, Pipeline is the only club with teams in the top bracket of most age groups.

2 PIPELINE SC PLAYERS INVITED TO U17 U.S. WOMEN’S NATIONAL TEAM TRAINING CAMP


Two members of Pipeline Soccer Club, Finley Lavin & Hannah Jibril, both 15 years of age, has been invited to join the U-17 U.S. Women’s National Team Virtual Camp. Lavin and Jibril will be among those competing for a spot on the roster that will play in next year’s FIFA U17 Women’s World Cup in India. By their selection, Lavin and Jibril become the first Pipeline players selected by a U.S. National Team, an honor reserved for the top players in American soccer. Lavin has played for Pipeline SC since she was 8-years-old and currently plays on the club’s 2002 ECNL team, coached by former U.S. Men’s National Team player and Club co-founder, Santino Quaranta. Jibril who began Pipeline at 9 years old, currently plays for the 2004 ECNL team, coached by ECNL Director, Danny Skelton. Both players spent 4 seasons with coach Tommy Quaranta at Pipeline.

“We are thrilled for Finley and Hannah for this tremendous accomplishment,” Quaranta said. “The pool of players at the National Team level are separated by very little. Fin has the willingness to work and suffer for her teammates on the field, which makes her great. The soccer ability speaks for itself. Hannah consistently proves to be one of the best attacking players in the region playing a year up. Her creative and fearless mindset will drive her as she fights for a spot on the U17 World Cup roster next summer”

Due to COVID-19 restrictions, the National Team has seen limited action and much of Lavin and Jibril’s initial engagement with the team will be remote.

“I am extremely grateful for this amazing opportunity and couldn’t be more excited to train with some of the best players in the nation,” Lavin said.

“I’m ecstatic to be selected, but I understand there is more to be done. Hopefully, this is the start of a long awaited journey” Jibril said

For more information about USA U17 National team visit : https://www.ussoccer.com/teams/u-17-womens-national-team

For more information about Pipeline SC visit www.pipelinesoccerclub.com

I’m pretty sure they also played for Baltimore Spirit when that was a thing. Both are excellent players.

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting news from Pipeline. Both players were developed as u9 and u10, playing for the same coach. I am not the famed 'Pipeline Dad,' but you have to give the club credit. Besides Richmond and FCV, Pipeline is the only club with teams in the top bracket of most age groups.

2 PIPELINE SC PLAYERS INVITED TO U17 U.S. WOMEN’S NATIONAL TEAM TRAINING CAMP


Two members of Pipeline Soccer Club, Finley Lavin & Hannah Jibril, both 15 years of age, has been invited to join the U-17 U.S. Women’s National Team Virtual Camp. Lavin and Jibril will be among those competing for a spot on the roster that will play in next year’s FIFA U17 Women’s World Cup in India. By their selection, Lavin and Jibril become the first Pipeline players selected by a U.S. National Team, an honor reserved for the top players in American soccer. Lavin has played for Pipeline SC since she was 8-years-old and currently plays on the club’s 2002 ECNL team, coached by former U.S. Men’s National Team player and Club co-founder, Santino Quaranta. Jibril who began Pipeline at 9 years old, currently plays for the 2004 ECNL team, coached by ECNL Director, Danny Skelton. Both players spent 4 seasons with coach Tommy Quaranta at Pipeline.

“We are thrilled for Finley and Hannah for this tremendous accomplishment,” Quaranta said. “The pool of players at the National Team level are separated by very little. Fin has the willingness to work and suffer for her teammates on the field, which makes her great. The soccer ability speaks for itself. Hannah consistently proves to be one of the best attacking players in the region playing a year up. Her creative and fearless mindset will drive her as she fights for a spot on the U17 World Cup roster next summer”

Due to COVID-19 restrictions, the National Team has seen limited action and much of Lavin and Jibril’s initial engagement with the team will be remote.

“I am extremely grateful for this amazing opportunity and couldn’t be more excited to train with some of the best players in the nation,” Lavin said.

“I’m ecstatic to be selected, but I understand there is more to be done. Hopefully, this is the start of a long awaited journey” Jibril said

For more information about USA U17 National team visit : https://www.ussoccer.com/teams/u-17-womens-national-team

For more information about Pipeline SC visit www.pipelinesoccerclub.com

Richmond and VDA with players invited too. Thanks pipeline dad.

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Anonymous wrote:You NoVA folks have lost your minds. FCV and McLean still attract significant talent. Arlington is keeping its talent for the most part. BRYC is done. Metro United is done. VDA will produce a good team here and there but don't have the geographical pull to be anything other than a competitive club. The wildcards are Loudoun and GA. If FCV can't get into ECNL and GA dies, FCV has lost is pull. Loudoun will benefit. Arlington will return to feeding McLean. BRYC might recover it it manages with FCV.

As other PP stated, 05-03 is under an old order. The 06 teams and below is new era. VDA producing high quality teams in this age group (06/08s) as well as Loudoun. The only constant for all age groups seems to be Richmond United as they don't have to fight amongst themselves. The whole Arlington and FCV not being in ENCL is real and they'll rot on the vine.

The poster is a .......There is no old order and new order. Apply a higher level of thinking when it comes to deal with posters.

NOVA cam absolutely field 4 NOVA teams. That’s not issue. It’s the 4 ECNL and 3 GA that allows for “watering down”

The GA will die off. If they plucked FCV and Tophat for the east coast GA is dead in this area.

FCV will not get ECNL. They will have to move. ECNL gave their spot Loudoun. They will not create a situation where they have to fight for the same pool. Whether you like it or not, Loudoun is the biggest pool in VA.

If FCV shut down operations at Evergreen, which they may because they are owned by a group in Springfield, Loudoun will become a force. If FCV moved to BRYC, they would be 10 minutes from TSJ....who they are owned by. They then create a partnership and get back in ECNL will creating new customers for TSJ.

How long do you think TSJ, who is dealing with the financial hardships from COVID, will allow their team to pay fees at evergreen versus pocketing the money?

Arlington will reestablish a partnership with McLean.

So you’re telling me that the one thing keeping Loudoun from being a force is a girls soccer club that can barely manage two teams per age group?

1. Loudoun girls first issue is the arrogance that came with the huge player pool.
2. The way they treated parents and players
3. Losing every good player after U13 to FCV
4. Not having an elite platform
5. More arrogance and nepotism.
6. Too much parent involvement

Loudoun, without a shadow of a doubt, COULD become the greatest force in NOVA. First, they wil have to create an environment that allows for it.

If FCV moves to Springfield and Metros, who is not even a player but has some good players, falls out of favor with players because of the weakness of the GA, BRYC will strengthen. Same thing with Arlington that will strengthen McLean.

Here’s what you will have.

PWC - VDA
Loudoun - Loudoun
Western- Central Fairfax - BRYC
Northern Fairfax and Arlington- McLean

As soon a GA clubs except their demise, thing will get back to normal. It’s coming. Just a question how fast.

That doesn't mean any of those best GA players will flock to Loudoun. They haven't proven anything to top players and, frankly, assuming the GA demise, Loudoun will still not attract those players. What Will happen is McLean, VDA and BRYC will get stronger.

The nepotism, arrogance that is Loudoun will be even worse without GA.

I'm sorry, but Loudoun is not, and never will be a destination club with the current leadership. They are nothing more than the biggest Rec club in Virginia. Their money is made in rec and the lower travel teams. They are not incentivized to improve ECNL or change the way they are doing things.

Let’s get a few things straight.

Kids don’t flock to Loudoun. Loudoun already has them. They don’t need to be a destination club. They need the ability to hold what they have.

Let’s be crystal clear, it is FCV that needs Loudouns players. FCV does not have a pool. Think about that. Really really let that sink in. Zero pool.

Truth be told, it’s Arlington l, Loudoun and VDA that should have ECNL and everyone else can go.

Now, that’s not going to happen but that is where the true player pools are.

They don't need kids to flock to them?

WOW, talk about arrogance. Good luck with that.

You understand that kids flock to PDA, Top Hat etc. They do not rely on kids they selected at 8-9 years old and assume that's all they'll ever need.

1. I bet you have zero understanding how Tophat, PDA, Hawks, Solar, Surf, Stars, Courage, Texans, and other big name club you want to name works.
2. You twisted my words to make a stupid point without having understanding of the landscape. I said, and I stand by it, that Loudoun has the biggest player pool in Virginia. Once you accept that you will accept the fact that their issue isn’t about attracting players. It’s retaining players.
3. FCV issue is the opposite. They must attract players. Hence the non-stop marketing. The issue for them is two fold now. One is Loudoun has ECNL. The second is GA is dying and clubs that remain in it will find it hard to retain and attract talent. Clubs like FCV who rely of other club pools will struggle.

For the record, we are not a Loudoun Soccer family and not personally a fan. However, I can easily see what’s in front of me.

You completely don't understand that Loudoun has squandered its player pool for years and will continue to do so. Loudoun seems to miss the point that a player pool is only half the equation. The other half is quality cohesive development across the entire club. There is no implemented style of play. There is no real coaching oversight. And all of this is fine for 95% of the players at the club, the ones who are on team B through Z. But they don't offer a true in club pathway and their ltop teams are stagnant through the years. They will never be a force because they will not do the hard work to become one, instead they just sit ck and cash their rec checks.

I 100 percent do Understand that. I agree wholeheartedly. Their arrogance has been their downfall. They have it too easy. They never had to work for it. My kid was a part of Loudoun very early on. I left and have never looked back. BUT, I’m no fool. They have the money, power and facilities, with an unlimited amount to kids in the most affluent county in the country. IF they revamped their girls side and show success, it’s over.

Loudoun County, Western PWC, and Western Fairfax are the powerhouse regions in NOVA for girls soccer.

And as long as Loudoun leadership stays in tact it will never happen. Top talent will just head to VDA or McLean.

Perhaps.

And if the players don't leave the coaching is not sophisticated enough to maximize the player pool they have. IN the younger ages they simply relied on athletes to win when it is easy to win that way. They never sacrifice a U11 loss for the development of their players. When they get older they tend to find out that other teams have big fast kids too and they just don't have anything left in the tank, tactic or technique wise to grow as players and as teams.

The thing that is frustrating is if these big clubs(Arlington included) put more effort on development(mainly individual skill development) from u9-u12 they would win more at these ages. It would really show results after u14. It’s just lazy and a disservice to the customer.

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Anonymous wrote:You NoVA folks have lost your minds. FCV and McLean still attract significant talent. Arlington is keeping its talent for the most part. BRYC is done. Metro United is done. VDA will produce a good team here and there but don't have the geographical pull to be anything other than a competitive club. The wildcards are Loudoun and GA. If FCV can't get into ECNL and GA dies, FCV has lost is pull. Loudoun will benefit. Arlington will return to feeding McLean. BRYC might recover it it manages with FCV.

As other PP stated, 05-03 is under an old order. The 06 teams and below is new era. VDA producing high quality teams in this age group (06/08s) as well as Loudoun. The only constant for all age groups seems to be Richmond United as they don't have to fight amongst themselves. The whole Arlington and FCV not being in ENCL is real and they'll rot on the vine.

The poster is a .......There is no old order and new order. Apply a higher level of thinking when it comes to deal with posters.

NOVA cam absolutely field 4 NOVA teams. That’s not issue. It’s the 4 ECNL and 3 GA that allows for “watering down”

The GA will die off. If they plucked FCV and Tophat for the east coast GA is dead in this area.

FCV will not get ECNL. They will have to move. ECNL gave their spot Loudoun. They will not create a situation where they have to fight for the same pool. Whether you like it or not, Loudoun is the biggest pool in VA.

If FCV shut down operations at Evergreen, which they may because they are owned by a group in Springfield, Loudoun will become a force. If FCV moved to BRYC, they would be 10 minutes from TSJ....who they are owned by. They then create a partnership and get back in ECNL will creating new customers for TSJ.

How long do you think TSJ, who is dealing with the financial hardships from COVID, will allow their team to pay fees at evergreen versus pocketing the money?

Arlington will reestablish a partnership with McLean.

So you’re telling me that the one thing keeping Loudoun from being a force is a girls soccer club that can barely manage two teams per age group?

1. Loudoun girls first issue is the arrogance that came with the huge player pool.
2. The way they treated parents and players
3. Losing every good player after U13 to FCV
4. Not having an elite platform
5. More arrogance and nepotism.
6. Too much parent involvement

Loudoun, without a shadow of a doubt, COULD become the greatest force in NOVA. First, they wil have to create an environment that allows for it.

If FCV moves to Springfield and Metros, who is not even a player but has some good players, falls out of favor with players because of the weakness of the GA, BRYC will strengthen. Same thing with Arlington that will strengthen McLean.

Here’s what you will have.

PWC - VDA
Loudoun - Loudoun
Western- Central Fairfax - BRYC
Northern Fairfax and Arlington- McLean

As soon a GA clubs except their demise, thing will get back to normal. It’s coming. Just a question how fast.

That doesn't mean any of those best GA players will flock to Loudoun. They haven't proven anything to top players and, frankly, assuming the GA demise, Loudoun will still not attract those players. What Will happen is McLean, VDA and BRYC will get stronger.

The nepotism, arrogance that is Loudoun will be even worse without GA.

I'm sorry, but Loudoun is not, and never will be a destination club with the current leadership. They are nothing more than the biggest Rec club in Virginia. Their money is made in rec and the lower travel teams. They are not incentivized to improve ECNL or change the way they are doing things.

Let’s get a few things straight.

Kids don’t flock to Loudoun. Loudoun already has them. They don’t need to be a destination club. They need the ability to hold what they have.

Let’s be crystal clear, it is FCV that needs Loudouns players. FCV does not have a pool. Think about that. Really really let that sink in. Zero pool.

Truth be told, it’s Arlington l, Loudoun and VDA that should have ECNL and everyone else can go.

Now, that’s not going to happen but that is where the true player pools are.

They don't need kids to flock to them?

WOW, talk about arrogance. Good luck with that.

You understand that kids flock to PDA, Top Hat etc. They do not rely on kids they selected at 8-9 years old and assume that's all they'll ever need.

1. I bet you have zero understanding how Tophat, PDA, Hawks, Solar, Surf, Stars, Courage, Texans, and other big name club you want to name works.
2. You twisted my words to make a stupid point without having understanding of the landscape. I said, and I stand by it, that Loudoun has the biggest player pool in Virginia. Once you accept that you will accept the fact that their issue isn’t about attracting players. It’s retaining players.
3. FCV issue is the opposite. They must attract players. Hence the non-stop marketing. The issue for them is two fold now. One is Loudoun has ECNL. The second is GA is dying and clubs that remain in it will find it hard to retain and attract talent. Clubs like FCV who rely of other club pools will struggle.

For the record, we are not a Loudoun Soccer family and not personally a fan. However, I can easily see what’s in front of me.

You completely don't understand that Loudoun has squandered its player pool for years and will continue to do so. Loudoun seems to miss the point that a player pool is only half the equation. The other half is quality cohesive development across the entire club. There is no implemented style of play. There is no real coaching oversight. And all of this is fine for 95% of the players at the club, the ones who are on team B through Z. But they don't offer a true in club pathway and their ltop teams are stagnant through the years. They will never be a force because they will not do the hard work to become one, instead they just sit ck and cash their rec checks.

I 100 percent do Understand that. I agree wholeheartedly. Their arrogance has been their downfall. They have it too easy. They never had to work for it. My kid was a part of Loudoun very early on. I left and have never looked back. BUT, I’m no fool. They have the money, power and facilities, with an unlimited amount to kids in the most affluent county in the country. IF they revamped their girls side and show success, it’s over.

Loudoun County, Western PWC, and Western Fairfax are the powerhouse regions in NOVA for girls soccer.

And as long as Loudoun leadership stays in tact it will never happen. Top talent will just head to VDA or McLean.

Perhaps.

And if the players don't leave the coaching is not sophisticated enough to maximize the player pool they have. IN the younger ages they simply relied on athletes to win when it is easy to win that way. They never sacrifice a U11 loss for the development of their players. When they get older they tend to find out that other teams have big fast kids too and they just don't have anything left in the tank, tactic or technique wise to grow as players and as teams.

The thing that is frustrating is if these big clubs(Arlington included) put more effort on development(mainly individual skill development) from u9-u12 they would win more at these ages. It would really show results after u14. It’s just lazy and a disservice to the customer.

All parents generally care about are the wins. Look at all the posts about rankings or denigrating this league or bragging about that league. Nobody really gives a damn about whether or not their kid is in fact a good soccer player or not. They simply make a list of "top teams" or this league and as long as their kid is in that group they presume their kid is an amazing soccer player because they participated in a web forum echo chamber.

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Anonymous wrote:You NoVA folks have lost your minds. FCV and McLean still attract significant talent. Arlington is keeping its talent for the most part. BRYC is done. Metro United is done. VDA will produce a good team here and there but don't have the geographical pull to be anything other than a competitive club. The wildcards are Loudoun and GA. If FCV can't get into ECNL and GA dies, FCV has lost is pull. Loudoun will benefit. Arlington will return to feeding McLean. BRYC might recover it it manages with FCV.

As other PP stated, 05-03 is under an old order. The 06 teams and below is new era. VDA producing high quality teams in this age group (06/08s) as well as Loudoun. The only constant for all age groups seems to be Richmond United as they don't have to fight amongst themselves. The whole Arlington and FCV not being in ENCL is real and they'll rot on the vine.

The poster is a .......There is no old order and new order. Apply a higher level of thinking when it comes to deal with posters.

NOVA cam absolutely field 4 NOVA teams. That’s not issue. It’s the 4 ECNL and 3 GA that allows for “watering down”

The GA will die off. If they plucked FCV and Tophat for the east coast GA is dead in this area.

FCV will not get ECNL. They will have to move. ECNL gave their spot Loudoun. They will not create a situation where they have to fight for the same pool. Whether you like it or not, Loudoun is the biggest pool in VA.

If FCV shut down operations at Evergreen, which they may because they are owned by a group in Springfield, Loudoun will become a force. If FCV moved to BRYC, they would be 10 minutes from TSJ....who they are owned by. They then create a partnership and get back in ECNL will creating new customers for TSJ.

How long do you think TSJ, who is dealing with the financial hardships from COVID, will allow their team to pay fees at evergreen versus pocketing the money?

Arlington will reestablish a partnership with McLean.

So you’re telling me that the one thing keeping Loudoun from being a force is a girls soccer club that can barely manage two teams per age group?

1. Loudoun girls first issue is the arrogance that came with the huge player pool.
2. The way they treated parents and players
3. Losing every good player after U13 to FCV
4. Not having an elite platform
5. More arrogance and nepotism.
6. Too much parent involvement

Loudoun, without a shadow of a doubt, COULD become the greatest force in NOVA. First, they wil have to create an environment that allows for it.

If FCV moves to Springfield and Metros, who is not even a player but has some good players, falls out of favor with players because of the weakness of the GA, BRYC will strengthen. Same thing with Arlington that will strengthen McLean.

Here’s what you will have.

PWC - VDA
Loudoun - Loudoun
Western- Central Fairfax - BRYC
Northern Fairfax and Arlington- McLean

As soon a GA clubs except their demise, thing will get back to normal. It’s coming. Just a question how fast.

That doesn't mean any of those best GA players will flock to Loudoun. They haven't proven anything to top players and, frankly, assuming the GA demise, Loudoun will still not attract those players. What Will happen is McLean, VDA and BRYC will get stronger.

The nepotism, arrogance that is Loudoun will be even worse without GA.

I'm sorry, but Loudoun is not, and never will be a destination club with the current leadership. They are nothing more than the biggest Rec club in Virginia. Their money is made in rec and the lower travel teams. They are not incentivized to improve ECNL or change the way they are doing things.

Why would BRYC will get stronger? I guess technically they really can't get any worse, as they have 1 win combined from their U13-U17 teams.....

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting news from Pipeline. Both players were developed as u9 and u10, playing for the same coach. I am not the famed 'Pipeline Dad,' but you have to give the club credit. Besides Richmond and FCV, Pipeline is the only club with teams in the top bracket of most age groups.

2 PIPELINE SC PLAYERS INVITED TO U17 U.S. WOMEN’S NATIONAL TEAM TRAINING CAMP


Two members of Pipeline Soccer Club, Finley Lavin & Hannah Jibril, both 15 years of age, has been invited to join the U-17 U.S. Women’s National Team Virtual Camp. Lavin and Jibril will be among those competing for a spot on the roster that will play in next year’s FIFA U17 Women’s World Cup in India. By their selection, Lavin and Jibril become the first Pipeline players selected by a U.S. National Team, an honor reserved for the top players in American soccer. Lavin has played for Pipeline SC since she was 8-years-old and currently plays on the club’s 2002 ECNL team, coached by former U.S. Men’s National Team player and Club co-founder, Santino Quaranta. Jibril who began Pipeline at 9 years old, currently plays for the 2004 ECNL team, coached by ECNL Director, Danny Skelton. Both players spent 4 seasons with coach Tommy Quaranta at Pipeline.

“We are thrilled for Finley and Hannah for this tremendous accomplishment,” Quaranta said. “The pool of players at the National Team level are separated by very little. Fin has the willingness to work and suffer for her teammates on the field, which makes her great. The soccer ability speaks for itself. Hannah consistently proves to be one of the best attacking players in the region playing a year up. Her creative and fearless mindset will drive her as she fights for a spot on the U17 World Cup roster next summer”

Due to COVID-19 restrictions, the National Team has seen limited action and much of Lavin and Jibril’s initial engagement with the team will be remote.

“I am extremely grateful for this amazing opportunity and couldn’t be more excited to train with some of the best players in the nation,” Lavin said.

“I’m ecstatic to be selected, but I understand there is more to be done. Hopefully, this is the start of a long awaited journey” Jibril said

For more information about USA U17 National team visit : https://www.ussoccer.com/teams/u-17-womens-national-team

For more information about Pipeline SC visit www.pipelinesoccerclub.com

VDA girl as well for same age group

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Anonymous wrote:You NoVA folks have lost your minds. FCV and McLean still attract significant talent. Arlington is keeping its talent for the most part. BRYC is done. Metro United is done. VDA will produce a good team here and there but don't have the geographical pull to be anything other than a competitive club. The wildcards are Loudoun and GA. If FCV can't get into ECNL and GA dies, FCV has lost is pull. Loudoun will benefit. Arlington will return to feeding McLean. BRYC might recover it it manages with FCV.

As other PP stated, 05-03 is under an old order. The 06 teams and below is new era. VDA producing high quality teams in this age group (06/08s) as well as Loudoun. The only constant for all age groups seems to be Richmond United as they don't have to fight amongst themselves. The whole Arlington and FCV not being in ENCL is real and they'll rot on the vine.

The poster is a .......There is no old order and new order. Apply a higher level of thinking when it comes to deal with posters.

NOVA cam absolutely field 4 NOVA teams. That’s not issue. It’s the 4 ECNL and 3 GA that allows for “watering down”

The GA will die off. If they plucked FCV and Tophat for the east coast GA is dead in this area.

FCV will not get ECNL. They will have to move. ECNL gave their spot Loudoun. They will not create a situation where they have to fight for the same pool. Whether you like it or not, Loudoun is the biggest pool in VA.

If FCV shut down operations at Evergreen, which they may because they are owned by a group in Springfield, Loudoun will become a force. If FCV moved to BRYC, they would be 10 minutes from TSJ....who they are owned by. They then create a partnership and get back in ECNL will creating new customers for TSJ.

How long do you think TSJ, who is dealing with the financial hardships from COVID, will allow their team to pay fees at evergreen versus pocketing the money?

Arlington will reestablish a partnership with McLean.

So you’re telling me that the one thing keeping Loudoun from being a force is a girls soccer club that can barely manage two teams per age group?

1. Loudoun girls first issue is the arrogance that came with the huge player pool.
2. The way they treated parents and players
3. Losing every good player after U13 to FCV
4. Not having an elite platform
5. More arrogance and nepotism.
6. Too much parent involvement

Loudoun, without a shadow of a doubt, COULD become the greatest force in NOVA. First, they wil have to create an environment that allows for it.

If FCV moves to Springfield and Metros, who is not even a player but has some good players, falls out of favor with players because of the weakness of the GA, BRYC will strengthen. Same thing with Arlington that will strengthen McLean.

Here’s what you will have.

PWC - VDA
Loudoun - Loudoun
Western- Central Fairfax - BRYC
Northern Fairfax and Arlington- McLean

As soon a GA clubs except their demise, thing will get back to normal. It’s coming. Just a question how fast.

That doesn't mean any of those best GA players will flock to Loudoun. They haven't proven anything to top players and, frankly, assuming the GA demise, Loudoun will still not attract those players. What Will happen is McLean, VDA and BRYC will get stronger.

The nepotism, arrogance that is Loudoun will be even worse without GA.

I'm sorry, but Loudoun is not, and never will be a destination club with the current leadership. They are nothing more than the biggest Rec club in Virginia. Their money is made in rec and the lower travel teams. They are not incentivized to improve ECNL or change the way they are doing things.

Let’s get a few things straight.

Kids don’t flock to Loudoun. Loudoun already has them. They don’t need to be a destination club. They need the ability to hold what they have.

Let’s be crystal clear, it is FCV that needs Loudouns players. FCV does not have a pool. Think about that. Really really let that sink in. Zero pool.

Truth be told, it’s Arlington l, Loudoun and VDA that should have ECNL and everyone else can go.

Now, that’s not going to happen but that is where the true player pools are.

They don't need kids to flock to them?

WOW, talk about arrogance. Good luck with that.

You understand that kids flock to PDA, Top Hat etc. They do not rely on kids they selected at 8-9 years old and assume that's all they'll ever need.

1. I bet you have zero understanding how Tophat, PDA, Hawks, Solar, Surf, Stars, Courage, Texans, and other big name club you want to name works.
2. You twisted my words to make a stupid point without having understanding of the landscape. I said, and I stand by it, that Loudoun has the biggest player pool in Virginia. Once you accept that you will accept the fact that their issue isn’t about attracting players. It’s retaining players.
3. FCV issue is the opposite. They must attract players. Hence the non-stop marketing. The issue for them is two fold now. One is Loudoun has ECNL. The second is GA is dying and clubs that remain in it will find it hard to retain and attract talent. Clubs like FCV who rely of other club pools will struggle.

For the record, we are not a Loudoun Soccer family and not personally a fan. However, I can easily see what’s in front of me.

You completely don't understand that Loudoun has squandered its player pool for years and will continue to do so. Loudoun seems to miss the point that a player pool is only half the equation. The other half is quality cohesive development across the entire club. There is no implemented style of play. There is no real coaching oversight. And all of this is fine for 95% of the players at the club, the ones who are on team B through Z. But they don't offer a true in club pathway and their top teams are stagnant through the years. They will never be a force because they will not do the hard work to become one, instead they just sit back and cash their rec checks.

NP - not a fan of LS in general, but there's a big piece of the equation that's changed in recent years regarding the squandering their player pool. Before ECNL, there was no path for the U13s and above. Playing yet another year of CCL wasn't in the best interest of the top players......so they left. For FCV and/or McLean, who were the only (ECNL) players in town. This happened for years. To all the top Loudoun players. Teams were good young....and then left, for a better platform. This is a big part of how/why FCV continued to be a force. They don't have a pool of their own, but they didn't need one. Now things have changed. Loudoun now offers a path, and most of their players are staying. Is their coaching good? I don't know. Will they start to develop top teams at the younger levels of ECNL as they work up? I don't know. But the landscape has changed, and it's not good for FCV on multiple fronts (player pool, GA, etc.).