Do Women Really Not Want to Work?

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Anonymous wrote:This whole question is so ridiculous.

MOST people would rather not work than work. At least full time.

What do you think is the first thing most big lottery winners do?

Preach! Nobody[I] wants[I] to work. That's why they pay you to do it and call it a job.

So if this is the case, why is the poster upthread with a spouse that's making 7 figures still working? She definitely does not need to work. Nor is someone making her work. What do you think of that?

I think it is relatively rare. We are talking on a macro level about 360 Million people after all (the population of the US).

I really truly believe that the vast majority of those 360 million people would quit tomorrow if they didn't need the money.

It depends on your social circle. I'm a SAHM with a physician husband. A lot of our social circle are doctors. There are a TON of working mother physicians with high earning DHs. Your observation is not mine. I dont work because that is my choice, but I'm not so arrogant to assume that women are forced to work by their spouses. I know a lot of brilliant working moms who are kicking ass out there because they are driven to do so and enjoy their careers.

As a mother to only girls, I'd be thrilled if they followed in their fathers footsteps and be so proud if they took over his practice. That is actually a dream of ours. It is sad how ignorant and intellectually lazy many of our fellow women are who are posting on here. Women have a long way to go. We are our own worst enemy.

Psst. The PP you quoted is talking about men and women from ALL social classes, not just rich women. Reading comprehension. You need some.

As do you.

No. You’re just a dumbass SAHM

Creative response.

Clap....clap......clap......

That was harsh but to be fair, you did read the quoted response wrong.

Shrug.

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Most adults work. Not all colect a paycheck.

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Anonymous wrote:I wish I lived in a country where the work/life balance was better (shorter workweek, lots of holidays) and childcare (early and after-school) was more affordable. If I lived in one I would have kept working. Happily.

But for our family it makes more sense to be a trailing spouse, freeing DH to go after big promotions.

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I wish the people who asked these questions and made judgement about this stuff could recognize that we DON'T live in an ideal society and we all have to make do with less than ideal choices.

But why couldn’t your DH be the trailing spouse and you go after the big promotions? Why do women always have to short change themselves?

I thought trailing spouse was used for situations like foreign service officers working at embassies where one spouse is literally following the other physically. Does it also mean the non priority work spouse? Wondering because if it means both I have a bone to pick with my spouse's employer...

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Anonymous wrote:My husband had been working at AWS for over 10 year and recently left. His initial compensation came with RSUs. Hes had 4 promotions and each one came with more shares. A huge part of their comp plan is RSUs upon leaving his RSUs immediately exercised at $1809/share. We have a lot of money. Money will never be a problem for us. I still work. My DH still works. We dont have grinder jobs. I'm not forced to work. There are a lot of working spouses I know quite well who do so because of desire, not necessity.

Some of your notions about women in the workforce are quite amusing.

Mine works for AWS now. Of course, after 100 nights of travel a year for years, we are divorcing. Got in on RSU at 300 cashed out my half just over 2k.

Thanks aws! It wasn’t nearly enough money though (when split) to pretend that I don’t need to work or endorsing need to work. A million doesn’t go that gate split, in your 40”s and with several kids.

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Anonymous wrote:My husband had been working at AWS for over 10 year and recently left. His initial compensation came with RSUs. Hes had 4 promotions and each one came with more shares. A huge part of their comp plan is RSUs upon leaving his RSUs immediately exercised at $1809/share. We have a lot of money. Money will never be a problem for us. I still work. My DH still works. We dont have grinder jobs. I'm not forced to work. There are a lot of working spouses I know quite well who do so because of desire, not necessity.

Some of your notions about women in the workforce are quite amusing.

Mine works for AWS now. Of course, after 100 nights of travel a year for years, we are divorcing. Got in on RSU at 300 cashed out my half just over 2k.

Thanks aws! It wasn’t nearly enough money though (when split) to pretend that I don’t need to work or endorsing need to work. A million doesn’t go that gate split, in your 40”s and with several kids.

That's odd. That is not how RSUs work. You are not granted at a stock price. You are granted a number of units and when they vest and you can cash them in.

My DH was initially granted, with his first offer 1,700 units, with each promotion he got more RSUs (he opted for RSUs over pay raises). When you leave Amazon you are forced to exercise all of your units. He left with 3,793 units at a 1,809 strike price.

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Anonymous wrote:I am a stay at home mom of school aged kids. I don’t work because I don’t have to and don’t want to. There are other reasons but that’s the most powerful one. I love not having a boss or restraints on my time or annoying paper work or go workers or entitled clients to deal with etc., etc. Most jobs are kind of a drag.

Let’s face it, how many people would continue working if they won the lotto? Not many. Most people would devote their time to hobbies, leisure, socializing, travel, volunteering etc.

I disagree with this theory. Plenty of people Work who may fall under the category of “don’t have to.” do you think Reese Witherspoon really needs the money? No.

You simply may have different financial goals than others who continued working. I feel that even with a high earning spouse and relatively wealthy Parents that I’d be doing myself a disservice not working and contributing to retirement and receiving subsidized healthcare.

The sad truth is that few SAHMs get to spend a lot of time traveling, socializing and leisure. Most are taking care of kids or spending their time on household duties. They are doing unpaid labor for men while their husbands get to go to work, earn money and have indepdence.

Are you really comparing yourself to Reece Witherspoon?

Clearly being a SAHM has made your brain mush and you can’t read. My point was that there are plenty of women who don’t have to work who work. For example, Reese Witherspoon.

How much time do you really think Reese Witherspoon spends working?

A lot. Filming a movie takes a lot of time. She also constantly posts on IG and now is touring regarding her upcoming book.

She doesn’t post on Instagram, her staff does, her book is most likely ghost written and she may make one movie a year, that films for a month or two total. You seem a bit out of touch with how celebrities live. There is very little work involved.

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Anonymous wrote:I am a stay at home mom of school aged kids. I don’t work because I don’t have to and don’t want to. There are other reasons but that’s the most powerful one. I love not having a boss or restraints on my time or annoying paper work or go workers or entitled clients to deal with etc., etc. Most jobs are kind of a drag.

Let’s face it, how many people would continue working if they won the lotto? Not many. Most people would devote their time to hobbies, leisure, socializing, travel, volunteering etc.

I disagree with this theory. Plenty of people Work who may fall under the category of “don’t have to.” do you think Reese Witherspoon really needs the money? No.

You simply may have different financial goals than others who continued working. I feel that even with a high earning spouse and relatively wealthy Parents that I’d be doing myself a disservice not working and contributing to retirement and receiving subsidized healthcare.

The sad truth is that few SAHMs get to spend a lot of time traveling, socializing and leisure. Most are taking care of kids or spending their time on household duties. They are doing unpaid labor for men while their husbands get to go to work, earn money and have indepdence.

Are you really comparing yourself to Reece Witherspoon?

Clearly being a SAHM has made your brain mush and you can’t read. My point was that there are plenty of women who don’t have to work who work. For example, Reese Witherspoon.

How much time do you really think Reese Witherspoon spends working?

A lot. Filming a movie takes a lot of time. She also constantly posts on IG and now is touring regarding her upcoming book.

She doesn’t post on Instagram, her staff does, her book is most likely ghost written and she may make one movie a year, that films for a month or two total. You seem a bit out of touch with how celebrities live. There is very little work involved.

Well she’s in the photos that are posted. So she’s at least spending time posing for all of these photos. All the time.

Filming any sort of movie or TV show is a time suck. You obviously don’t know anything about this.

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Anonymous wrote:Before I married and had kids, I thought I wanted the option to stay home. When I actually had a baby, I knew I wasn't capable of being an SAHM.

I'm the total opposite! Never imagined I'd stay home but once I had my first, knew I couldn't go back. Fortunate to be able to stay at home but I absolutely DO WORK. Childcare, housecare, family care is no joke. So when you ask do women really not want to work, OP, I think you may be confused about what staying at home entails.

A lot of men wouldn't last a month being a full-time stay-at-home parent.

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Anonymous wrote:Before I married and had kids, I thought I wanted the option to stay home. When I actually had a baby, I knew I wasn't capable of being an SAHM.

I'm the total opposite! Never imagined I'd stay home but once I had my first, knew I couldn't go back. Fortunate to be able to stay at home but I absolutely DO WORK. Childcare, housecare, family care is no joke. So when you ask do women really not want to work, OP, I think you may be confused about what staying at home entails.

A lot of men wouldn't last a month being a full-time stay-at-home parent.

You realize all the rest of us still do all the house care and family care despite both working right

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Anonymous wrote:My husband had been working at AWS for over 10 year and recently left. His initial compensation came with RSUs. Hes had 4 promotions and each one came with more shares. A huge part of their comp plan is RSUs upon leaving his RSUs immediately exercised at $1809/share. We have a lot of money. Money will never be a problem for us. I still work. My DH still works. We dont have grinder jobs. I'm not forced to work. There are a lot of working spouses I know quite well who do so because of desire, not necessity.

Some of your notions about women in the workforce are quite amusing.

Mine works for AWS now. Of course, after 100 nights of travel a year for years, we are divorcing. Got in on RSU at 300 cashed out my half just over 2k.

Thanks aws! It wasn’t nearly enough money though (when split) to pretend that I don’t need to work or endorsing need to work. A million doesn’t go that gate split, in your 40”s and with several kids.

That's odd. That is not how RSUs work. You are not granted at a stock price. You are granted a number of units and when they vest and you can cash them in.

My DH was initially granted, with his first offer 1,700 units, with each promotion he got more RSUs (he opted for RSUs over pay raises). When you leave Amazon you are forced to exercise all of your units. He left with 3,793 units at a 1,809 strike price.

He received an amount of shares based on a dollar price- aka $150k in shares to sign on. Shares were what they were that say. So it translated to a random ray grant to fulfill that price. He gats shares annually as well.

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Anonymous wrote:Before I married and had kids, I thought I wanted the option to stay home. When I actually had a baby, I knew I wasn't capable of being an SAHM.

I'm the total opposite! Never imagined I'd stay home but once I had my first, knew I couldn't go back. Fortunate to be able to stay at home but I absolutely DO WORK. Childcare, housecare, family care is no joke. So when you ask do women really not want to work, OP, I think you may be confused about what staying at home entails.

A lot of men wouldn't last a month being a full-time stay-at-home parent.

You realize all the rest of us still do all the house care and family care despite both working right

Really? You take care of your kids full time while also working full time?

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Anonymous wrote:My husband had been working at AWS for over 10 year and recently left. His initial compensation came with RSUs. Hes had 4 promotions and each one came with more shares. A huge part of their comp plan is RSUs upon leaving his RSUs immediately exercised at $1809/share. We have a lot of money. Money will never be a problem for us. I still work. My DH still works. We dont have grinder jobs. I'm not forced to work. There are a lot of working spouses I know quite well who do so because of desire, not necessity.

Some of your notions about women in the workforce are quite amusing.

Mine works for AWS now. Of course, after 100 nights of travel a year for years, we are divorcing. Got in on RSU at 300 cashed out my half just over 2k.

Thanks aws! It wasn’t nearly enough money though (when split) to pretend that I don’t need to work or endorsing need to work. A million doesn’t go that gate split, in your 40”s and with several kids.

That's odd. That is not how RSUs work. You are not granted at a stock price. You are granted a number of units and when they vest and you can cash them in.

My DH was initially granted, with his first offer 1,700 units, with each promotion he got more RSUs (he opted for RSUs over pay raises). When you leave Amazon you are forced to exercise all of your units. He left with 3,793 units at a 1,809 strike price.

Daym! 6.8M...what do you both do now for a career? I'm someone who also works and wouldn't see myself quit. However I chase money because i have to. My dream would be to chose a job based on a criteria other than money.

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Anonymous wrote:Before I married and had kids, I thought I wanted the option to stay home. When I actually had a baby, I knew I wasn't capable of being an SAHM.

I'm the total opposite! Never imagined I'd stay home but once I had my first, knew I couldn't go back. Fortunate to be able to stay at home but I absolutely DO WORK. Childcare, housecare, family care is no joke. So when you ask do women really not want to work, OP, I think you may be confused about what staying at home entails.

A lot of men wouldn't last a month being a full-time stay-at-home parent.

You realize all the rest of us still do all the house care and family care despite both working right

Really? You take care of your kids full time while also working full time?

You see I left one item out of that 3 item list right?

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Anonymous wrote:Are women still really looking for a man who makes enough money so they don’t have to work? My DWsems very jealous of my SIL who is a SAHM. I will note that my brother is not a “high earner” in the DCUM sense. He’s an O-6 in the army. But she gets all the perks and social status of bring an officer’s wife. I will also add my DW had her SAHM days, but our kids are grown and in college. She also has an Ivy degree and likes things like fancy cars. So, if you didn’t expect to work why did yo ge the degree and if you want to stay at home you’ll need to sacrifice ... no more fancy cars, designer handbags, etc. I’m willing to work in this p, but you’ll be driving a Honda and shopping at Walmart.

Do men really ask stupid questions? No, wait...just you.

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Anonymous wrote:Before I married and had kids, I thought I wanted the option to stay home. When I actually had a baby, I knew I wasn't capable of being an SAHM.

I'm the total opposite! Never imagined I'd stay home but once I had my first, knew I couldn't go back. Fortunate to be able to stay at home but I absolutely DO WORK. Childcare, housecare, family care is no joke. So when you ask do women really not want to work, OP, I think you may be confused about what staying at home entails.

A lot of men wouldn't last a month being a full-time stay-at-home parent.

You realize all the rest of us still do all the house care and family care despite both working right

Really? You take care of your kids full time while also working full time?

Exactly. If you outsource the care of your kids, you are not, despite what you want to tell yourself, doing the “family care,” especially when the kids are young. That is a lot of work, so the idea that a woman who does that is not “working” is preposterous.