Do Women Really Not Want to Work?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I wish I lived in a country where the work/life balance was better (shorter workweek, lots of holidays) and childcare (early and after-school) was more affordable. If I lived in one I would have kept working. Happily.

But for our family it makes more sense to be a trailing spouse, freeing DH to go after big promotions.

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I wish the people who asked these questions and made judgement about this stuff could recognize that we DON'T live in an ideal society and we all have to make do with less than ideal choices.

But why couldn’t your DH be the trailing spouse and you go after the big promotions? Why do women always have to short change themselves?

His career has more earning potential. If I could back in time to study for a more lucrative career I would absolutely do it. I’m trying to get my kids (one of each) thinking about choosing careers that are flexible and allow for times of leaning in and leaning out so both partners are able to spend time as default parent and other times as breadwinner.

I didn’t have that foresight, though. DH would make a great SAHD if had the chance.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There is very little societal support for working mothers. No maternity leave, scarce expensive childcare, no limits on hours employers can extract from employees.

It is a wonder that anyone has children.

Sadly this is a class thing. My employer has very generous benefits. I also find work makes my life much easier. We have school aged kids and a daily housekeeper. I haven't ever operated my own laundry, I dont go to the grocery store, dont clean my own house (have both housekeeper and a weekly deep cleaning), and dont organize my own closets. I come home at 5pm each day, (when I'm not WFH) to an organized home, kids who have completed their homework and a from scratch healthy meal that is 50% prepped, I just do the finishing touches. I spend my entire evening with my DH, kids, or simply curled up on the sofa enjoying a book. However you will never find me doing chores. If I chose to SAH (and believe me, I could with DHs income) no way could I justify a 30hr a week housekeeper to do the dirty work that quite frankly is boring and tedious. I'd be happy to never step foot in a grocery again in my life. If I didnt work, it would just be flamboyantly over the top.

You can totally justify the housekeeper if you can afford it, and trust me, you would find worthwhile ways to spend your time if you wanted to.

I really can't justify then housekeeper, certainly not to the extent we use one now. DH makes low 7 figures, so money is not a problem in regards to that. However, regardless, I get my exercise time in, eat well, spend a lot of time with my family as it is, I really like the work I do and enjoy the people I work with. I don't have a brutal commute. I would find being at home pretty dull, especially since i can't travel all the time being that we have kids at home. Both DH and I will retire in our early 50s when the kids are out of the home, so we can spend a lot of time traveling.

But when you retire, will you sit around the house doing nothing? Will you suddenly start doing all the cleaning yourself? No. Same thing.

Reading is fundamental. This has been answered. Maybe you haven't had coffee this morning?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This whole question is so ridiculous.

MOST people would rather not work than work. At least full time.

What do you think is the first thing most big lottery winners do?

Preach! Nobody[I] wants[I] to work. That's why they pay you to do it and call it a job.

So if this is the case, why is the poster upthread with a spouse that's making 7 figures still working? She definitely does not need to work. Nor is someone making her work. What do you think of that?

I doubt this will get answered. This throws an inconvenient wrench in the narrative that women who work are forced to work by their male partners.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I wish I lived in a country where the work/life balance was better (shorter workweek, lots of holidays) and childcare (early and after-school) was more affordable. If I lived in one I would have kept working. Happily.

But for our family it makes more sense to be a trailing spouse, freeing DH to go after big promotions.

+ 1

I wish the people who asked these questions and made judgement about this stuff could recognize that we DON'T live in an ideal society and we all have to make do with less than ideal choices.

But why couldn’t your DH be the trailing spouse and you go after the big promotions? Why do women always have to short change themselves?

We're still socialized to be attracted to "alpha men" - i.e. the attractive, smart good athletes in high school who turn into attractive smart, high earning men as adults. This isn't true for ALL women but a lot, yeah. Men in turn are socialized to make the most money they can to support a family.

I don't know how much of it is socialization and how much of it is biological. You can't fight attraction. You like what you like.

If you want to be treated as an equal, you better start learning to own your decisions. You _decided_ to date or marry some guy. You did that. Society doesn't care. Your mom does maybe.

We're talking on a societal basis though. This is true for many many white MC/UMC/rich girls.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This whole question is so ridiculous.

MOST people would rather not work than work. At least full time.

What do you think is the first thing most big lottery winners do?

Preach! Nobody[I] wants[I] to work. That's why they pay you to do it and call it a job.

So if this is the case, why is the poster upthread with a spouse that's making 7 figures still working? She definitely does not need to work. Nor is someone making her work. What do you think of that?

I think it is relatively rare. We are talking on a macro level about 360 Million people after all (the population of the US).

I really truly believe that the vast majority of those 360 million people would quit tomorrow if they didn't need the money.

[Anonymous]

I'm an educated and employed mom. I think all women are different. And staying home is also "work". I think it's good to have choices. If you are married to a partner who makes enough that you don't have to stay in a job you hate, or one of you can resign so you can meet the needs of your child, etc. etc., that's great.

The nice thing about marrying a wealthy man (which I did not) would have been the flexibility/choices. But do I not want to "work" i.e. do my fair share of what needs to be done for my family's benefit? No.

[Anonymous]

My husband had been working at AWS for over 10 year and recently left. His initial compensation came with RSUs. Hes had 4 promotions and each one came with more shares. A huge part of their comp plan is RSUs upon leaving his RSUs immediately exercised at $1809/share. We have a lot of money. Money will never be a problem for us. I still work. My DH still works. We dont have grinder jobs. I'm not forced to work. There are a lot of working spouses I know quite well who do so because of desire, not necessity.

Some of your notions about women in the workforce are quite amusing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This whole question is so ridiculous.

MOST people would rather not work than work. At least full time.

What do you think is the first thing most big lottery winners do?

Preach! Nobody[I] wants[I] to work. That's why they pay you to do it and call it a job.

So if this is the case, why is the poster upthread with a spouse that's making 7 figures still working? She definitely does not need to work. Nor is someone making her work. What do you think of that?

I think it is relatively rare. We are talking on a macro level about 360 Million people after all (the population of the US).

I really truly believe that the vast majority of those 360 million people would quit tomorrow if they didn't need the money.

It depends on your social circle. I'm a SAHM with a physician husband. A lot of our social circle are doctors. There are a TON of working mother physicians with high earning DHs. Your observation is not mine. I dont work because that is my choice, but I'm not so arrogant to assume that women are forced to work by their spouses. I know a lot of brilliant working moms who are kicking ass out there because they are driven to do so and enjoy their careers.

As a mother to only girls, I'd be thrilled if they followed in their fathers footsteps and be so proud if they took over his practice. That is actually a dream of ours. It is sad how ignorant and intellectually lazy many of our fellow women are who are posting on here. Women have a long way to go. We are our own worst enemy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This whole question is so ridiculous.

MOST people would rather not work than work. At least full time.

What do you think is the first thing most big lottery winners do?

Preach! Nobody[I] wants[I] to work. That's why they pay you to do it and call it a job.

So if this is the case, why is the poster upthread with a spouse that's making 7 figures still working? She definitely does not need to work. Nor is someone making her work. What do you think of that?

I think it is relatively rare. We are talking on a macro level about 360 Million people after all (the population of the US).

I really truly believe that the vast majority of those 360 million people would quit tomorrow if they didn't need the money.

It depends on your social circle. I'm a SAHM with a physician husband. A lot of our social circle are doctors. There are a TON of working mother physicians with high earning DHs. Your observation is not mine. I dont work because that is my choice, but I'm not so arrogant to assume that women are forced to work by their spouses. I know a lot of brilliant working moms who are kicking ass out there because they are driven to do so and enjoy their careers.

As a mother to only girls, I'd be thrilled if they followed in their fathers footsteps and be so proud if they took over his practice. That is actually a dream of ours. It is sad how ignorant and intellectually lazy many of our fellow women are who are posting on here. Women have a long way to go. We are our own worst enemy.

The PP is talking about the entire population of the US. Your observation is limited to your UMC circle. You’re really living in a big bubble if you think that can be extrapolated to people who work retail, fast food, any kind of service job, plumbers, etc.

My personal social circle has a lot of rich finance people. Guess what, I don’t think their experiences are comparable to the general population because I’m not a complete idiot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This whole question is so ridiculous.

MOST people would rather not work than work. At least full time.

What do you think is the first thing most big lottery winners do?

Preach! Nobody[I] wants[I] to work. That's why they pay you to do it and call it a job.

So if this is the case, why is the poster upthread with a spouse that's making 7 figures still working? She definitely does not need to work. Nor is someone making her work. What do you think of that?

I think it is relatively rare. We are talking on a macro level about 360 Million people after all (the population of the US).

I really truly believe that the vast majority of those 360 million people would quit tomorrow if they didn't need the money.

It depends on your social circle. I'm a SAHM with a physician husband. A lot of our social circle are doctors. There are a TON of working mother physicians with high earning DHs. Your observation is not mine. I dont work because that is my choice, but I'm not so arrogant to assume that women are forced to work by their spouses. I know a lot of brilliant working moms who are kicking ass out there because they are driven to do so and enjoy their careers.

As a mother to only girls, I'd be thrilled if they followed in their fathers footsteps and be so proud if they took over his practice. That is actually a dream of ours. It is sad how ignorant and intellectually lazy many of our fellow women are who are posting on here. Women have a long way to go. We are our own worst enemy.

Psst. The PP you quoted is talking about men and women from ALL social classes, not just rich women. Reading comprehension. You need some.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This whole question is so ridiculous.

MOST people would rather not work than work. At least full time.

What do you think is the first thing most big lottery winners do?

Preach! Nobody[I] wants[I] to work. That's why they pay you to do it and call it a job.

So if this is the case, why is the poster upthread with a spouse that's making 7 figures still working? She definitely does not need to work. Nor is someone making her work. What do you think of that?

I think it is relatively rare. We are talking on a macro level about 360 Million people after all (the population of the US).

I really truly believe that the vast majority of those 360 million people would quit tomorrow if they didn't need the money.

It depends on your social circle. I'm a SAHM with a physician husband. A lot of our social circle are doctors. There are a TON of working mother physicians with high earning DHs. Your observation is not mine. I dont work because that is my choice, but I'm not so arrogant to assume that women are forced to work by their spouses. I know a lot of brilliant working moms who are kicking ass out there because they are driven to do so and enjoy their careers.

As a mother to only girls, I'd be thrilled if they followed in their fathers footsteps and be so proud if they took over his practice. That is actually a dream of ours. It is sad how ignorant and intellectually lazy many of our fellow women are who are posting on here. Women have a long way to go. We are our own worst enemy.

Psst. The PP you quoted is talking about men and women from ALL social classes, not just rich women. Reading comprehension. You need some.

As do you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This whole question is so ridiculous.

MOST people would rather not work than work. At least full time.

What do you think is the first thing most big lottery winners do?

Preach! Nobody[I] wants[I] to work. That's why they pay you to do it and call it a job.

So if this is the case, why is the poster upthread with a spouse that's making 7 figures still working? She definitely does not need to work. Nor is someone making her work. What do you think of that?

I think it is relatively rare. We are talking on a macro level about 360 Million people after all (the population of the US).

I really truly believe that the vast majority of those 360 million people would quit tomorrow if they didn't need the money.

It depends on your social circle. I'm a SAHM with a physician husband. A lot of our social circle are doctors. There are a TON of working mother physicians with high earning DHs. Your observation is not mine. I dont work because that is my choice, but I'm not so arrogant to assume that women are forced to work by their spouses. I know a lot of brilliant working moms who are kicking ass out there because they are driven to do so and enjoy their careers.

As a mother to only girls, I'd be thrilled if they followed in their fathers footsteps and be so proud if they took over his practice. That is actually a dream of ours. It is sad how ignorant and intellectually lazy many of our fellow women are who are posting on here. Women have a long way to go. We are our own worst enemy.

Psst. The PP you quoted is talking about men and women from ALL social classes, not just rich women. Reading comprehension. You need some.

As do you.

No. You’re just a dumbass SAHM

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This whole question is so ridiculous.

MOST people would rather not work than work. At least full time.

What do you think is the first thing most big lottery winners do?

Preach! Nobody[I] wants[I] to work. That's why they pay you to do it and call it a job.

So if this is the case, why is the poster upthread with a spouse that's making 7 figures still working? She definitely does not need to work. Nor is someone making her work. What do you think of that?

I think it is relatively rare. We are talking on a macro level about 360 Million people after all (the population of the US).

I really truly believe that the vast majority of those 360 million people would quit tomorrow if they didn't need the money.

It depends on your social circle. I'm a SAHM with a physician husband. A lot of our social circle are doctors. There are a TON of working mother physicians with high earning DHs. Your observation is not mine. I dont work because that is my choice, but I'm not so arrogant to assume that women are forced to work by their spouses. I know a lot of brilliant working moms who are kicking ass out there because they are driven to do so and enjoy their careers.

As a mother to only girls, I'd be thrilled if they followed in their fathers footsteps and be so proud if they took over his practice. That is actually a dream of ours. It is sad how ignorant and intellectually lazy many of our fellow women are who are posting on here. Women have a long way to go. We are our own worst enemy.

The PP is talking about the entire population of the US. Your observation is limited to your UMC circle. You’re really living in a big bubble if you think that can be extrapolated to people who work retail, fast food, any kind of service job, plumbers, etc.

My personal social circle has a lot of rich finance people. Guess what, I don’t think their experiences are comparable to the general population because I’m not a complete idiot.

No, not an complete idiot, just a partial one. You can't read critically.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This whole question is so ridiculous.

MOST people would rather not work than work. At least full time.

What do you think is the first thing most big lottery winners do?

Preach! Nobody[I] wants[I] to work. That's why they pay you to do it and call it a job.

So if this is the case, why is the poster upthread with a spouse that's making 7 figures still working? She definitely does not need to work. Nor is someone making her work. What do you think of that?

I think it is relatively rare. We are talking on a macro level about 360 Million people after all (the population of the US).

I really truly believe that the vast majority of those 360 million people would quit tomorrow if they didn't need the money.

It depends on your social circle. I'm a SAHM with a physician husband. A lot of our social circle are doctors. There are a TON of working mother physicians with high earning DHs. Your observation is not mine. I dont work because that is my choice, but I'm not so arrogant to assume that women are forced to work by their spouses. I know a lot of brilliant working moms who are kicking ass out there because they are driven to do so and enjoy their careers.

As a mother to only girls, I'd be thrilled if they followed in their fathers footsteps and be so proud if they took over his practice. That is actually a dream of ours. It is sad how ignorant and intellectually lazy many of our fellow women are who are posting on here. Women have a long way to go. We are our own worst enemy.

Psst. The PP you quoted is talking about men and women from ALL social classes, not just rich women. Reading comprehension. You need some.

As do you.

No. You’re just a dumbass SAHM

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This whole question is so ridiculous.

MOST people would rather not work than work. At least full time.

What do you think is the first thing most big lottery winners do?

Preach! Nobody[I] wants[I] to work. That's why they pay you to do it and call it a job.

So if this is the case, why is the poster upthread with a spouse that's making 7 figures still working? She definitely does not need to work. Nor is someone making her work. What do you think of that?

I think it is relatively rare. We are talking on a macro level about 360 Million people after all (the population of the US).

I really truly believe that the vast majority of those 360 million people would quit tomorrow if they didn't need the money.

It depends on your social circle. I'm a SAHM with a physician husband. A lot of our social circle are doctors. There are a TON of working mother physicians with high earning DHs. Your observation is not mine. I dont work because that is my choice, but I'm not so arrogant to assume that women are forced to work by their spouses. I know a lot of brilliant working moms who are kicking ass out there because they are driven to do so and enjoy their careers.

As a mother to only girls, I'd be thrilled if they followed in their fathers footsteps and be so proud if they took over his practice. That is actually a dream of ours. It is sad how ignorant and intellectually lazy many of our fellow women are who are posting on here. Women have a long way to go. We are our own worst enemy.

The PP is talking about the entire population of the US. Your observation is limited to your UMC circle. You’re really living in a big bubble if you think that can be extrapolated to people who work retail, fast food, any kind of service job, plumbers, etc.

My personal social circle has a lot of rich finance people. Guess what, I don’t think their experiences are comparable to the general population because I’m not a complete idiot.

No, not an complete idiot, just a partial one. You can't read critically.

Lol

Just admit that you didn’t get what the PP was saying, which is that few people (male or female) would work full time if they didn’t have to.