An interesting article about MCPS student population

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Anonymous wrote:MCPS has had its best days. If they understood, the W school districts would succeed from the rest to avoid over taxation to support the Eastern part of the county.

I think you mean secede.

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Anonymous wrote:MCPS has had its best days. If they understood, the W school districts would succeed from the rest to avoid over taxation to support the Eastern part of the county.

People keep saying this, but I'm not sure what comparison school districts we are falling below.

You're falling behind much of the world according to the Programme for International Student Assessment (PISA).
At least the illegals coming to Montgomery County from Central and South America are getting better schools than the ones they left behind.

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHMYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY GODDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
LET GO OF THE FREAKING IILEGAL ISSUE
LET IT THE F***** GO
YOUR ISSUE WITH EVERYTHING IS ILLEGALS, ILLEGALS, ILLEGALS
YOUR STUPIDITY SHOULD BE ILLEGAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YOU PROBABLY LIVE IN YOUR MOTHER'S BASEMENT IN IDAHO AND DON'T EVEN LIVE IN MOCO.
MOST OF US ARE NOT BLAMING ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS FOR EVERYTIME SOMEONE'S FART STINKS!!!!
LET IT GO OR MOVE SOMEWHERE THE ILLEGALS WON'T BOTHER YOU!

I am not the PP and since the whole point of the article is to say that the Hispanic populations has quadrupled in less than 10-15 years, there is a major cause of concern, unless you honeslty think all of these Hispanics applied for citizenship and came here legally. Funding for ESOL and FARMS has skyrocketed and has taken a lot of money away from actual education for legal citizens. Meanwhile testing scores have gone down. I don't want illegals here at all. None. They are federal law breakers cheating a system and bringing poverty to the country that the middle class is struggling to pay for. I want the ones coming to America legally here. There is a big difference. No one should get a free pass into another country. We are the only ones that seem to allow it. It is all a political ploy.

Please--you be the one to tell the student of mine who has most recently arrived from Central America that he needs to be shipped back. His entire family is still there. He is living here with a distant relative he has never met. And he's 10.

He also has a stronger academic background than many of my students who only speak English and were born in the US. He will quickly surpass those students once he acquires English, and considering how strong his skills are--that won't be long.

But he's the problem with MCPS, according to you.

He's been through hell that you can't even imagine. No child should have to witness what he has.

Why are you and your children superior to this child who has more courage. drive and ambition than most children who were lucky enough to have been born here?

But let me guess--you're fine with it as long as children like him don't show up at your child's school???

My stomach hurts just thinking that people like you exist.

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???????????? yes!!! Bravo!!!

[Anonymous]

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Please--you be the one to tell the student of mine who has most recently arrived from Central America that he needs to be shipped back. His entire family is still there. He is living here with a distant relative he has never met. And he's 10.

He also has a stronger academic background than many of my students who only speak English and were born in the US. He will quickly surpass those students once he acquires English, and considering how strong his skills are--that won't be long.

But he's the problem with MCPS, according to you.

He's been through hell that you can't even imagine. No child should have to witness what he has.

Why are you and your children superior to this child who has more courage. drive and ambition than most children who were lucky enough to have been born here?

But let me guess--you're fine with it as long as children like him don't show up at your child's school???

My stomach hurts just thinking that people like you exist.

Not trying to be snarky but why did your student come here? His family is not here, he doesn't speak English, and you say that he was able to get a stronger academic background in his home country than kids here get.

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Anonymous wrote:MCPS has had its best days. If they understood, the W school districts would succeed from the rest to avoid over taxation to support the Eastern part of the county.

People keep saying this, but I'm not sure what comparison school districts we are falling below.

You're falling behind much of the world according to the Programme for International Student Assessment (PISA).
At least the illegals coming to Montgomery County from Central and South America are getting better schools than the ones they left behind.

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHMYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY GODDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
LET GO OF THE FREAKING IILEGAL ISSUE
LET IT THE F***** GO
YOUR ISSUE WITH EVERYTHING IS ILLEGALS, ILLEGALS, ILLEGALS
YOUR STUPIDITY SHOULD BE ILLEGAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YOU PROBABLY LIVE IN YOUR MOTHER'S BASEMENT IN IDAHO AND DON'T EVEN LIVE IN MOCO.
MOST OF US ARE NOT BLAMING ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS FOR EVERYTIME SOMEONE'S FART STINKS!!!!
LET IT GO OR MOVE SOMEWHERE THE ILLEGALS WON'T BOTHER YOU!

I am not the PP and since the whole point of the article is to say that the Hispanic populations has quadrupled in less than 10-15 years, there is a major cause of concern, unless you honeslty think all of these Hispanics applied for citizenship and came here legally. Funding for ESOL and FARMS has skyrocketed and has taken a lot of money away from actual education for legal citizens. Meanwhile testing scores have gone down. I don't want illegals here at all. None. They are federal law breakers cheating a system and bringing poverty to the country that the middle class is struggling to pay for. I want the ones coming to America legally here. There is a big difference. No one should get a free pass into another country. We are the only ones that seem to allow it. It is all a political ploy.

Please--you be the one to tell the student of mine who has most recently arrived from Central America that he needs to be shipped back. His entire family is still there. He is living here with a distant relative he has never met. And he's 10.

He also has a stronger academic background than many of my students who only speak English and were born in the US. He will quickly surpass those students once he acquires English, and considering how strong his skills are--that won't be long.

But he's the problem with MCPS, according to you.

He's been through hell that you can't even imagine. No child should have to witness what he has.

Why are you and your children superior to this child who has more courage. drive and ambition than most children who were lucky enough to have been born here?

But let me guess--you're fine with it as long as children like him don't show up at your child's school???

My stomach hurts just thinking that people like you exist.

This kid is an outlier and isn't even remotely representative of the kids coming. To be brutally honest, if you keep bringing "there" to "here", eventually we will be the same as "there".

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That does not even remotely make sense. Refugees fleeing war and violence do not bring war to their new countries. Our country does not become just like "there" because of a change in skin color. Where did your ancestors immigrate from? What were conditions like there at the time? Nativists made exactly the same arguments when the Germans came, the Irish, the Italians, the Jews.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MCPS has had its best days. If they understood, the W school districts would succeed from the rest to avoid over taxation to support the Eastern part of the county.

People keep saying this, but I'm not sure what comparison school districts we are falling below.

You're falling behind much of the world according to the Programme for International Student Assessment (PISA).
At least the illegals coming to Montgomery County from Central and South America are getting better schools than the ones they left behind.

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHMYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY GODDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
LET GO OF THE FREAKING IILEGAL ISSUE
LET IT THE F***** GO
YOUR ISSUE WITH EVERYTHING IS ILLEGALS, ILLEGALS, ILLEGALS
YOUR STUPIDITY SHOULD BE ILLEGAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YOU PROBABLY LIVE IN YOUR MOTHER'S BASEMENT IN IDAHO AND DON'T EVEN LIVE IN MOCO.
MOST OF US ARE NOT BLAMING ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS FOR EVERYTIME SOMEONE'S FART STINKS!!!!
LET IT GO OR MOVE SOMEWHERE THE ILLEGALS WON'T BOTHER YOU!

I am not the PP and since the whole point of the article is to say that the Hispanic populations has quadrupled in less than 10-15 years, there is a major cause of concern, unless you honeslty think all of these Hispanics applied for citizenship and came here legally. Funding for ESOL and FARMS has skyrocketed and has taken a lot of money away from actual education for legal citizens. Meanwhile testing scores have gone down. I don't want illegals here at all. None. They are federal law breakers cheating a system and bringing poverty to the country that the middle class is struggling to pay for. I want the ones coming to America legally here. There is a big difference. No one should get a free pass into another country. We are the only ones that seem to allow it. It is all a political ploy.

Please--you be the one to tell the student of mine who has most recently arrived from Central America that he needs to be shipped back. His entire family is still there. He is living here with a distant relative he has never met. And he's 10.

He also has a stronger academic background than many of my students who only speak English and were born in the US. He will quickly surpass those students once he acquires English, and considering how strong his skills are--that won't be long.

But he's the problem with MCPS, according to you.

He's been through hell that you can't even imagine. No child should have to witness what he has.

Why are you and your children superior to this child who has more courage. drive and ambition than most children who were lucky enough to have been born here?

But let me guess--you're fine with it as long as children like him don't show up at your child's school???

My stomach hurts just thinking that people like you exist.

Well why not bring them all. If we can't turn anyone or make them go back to their home country (in your eyes) than let's save them all. Sudan, Iraq, El Salvador, Haiti, Cuba, Honduras, Turkey,etc.. If we shouldn't make your student go back, why anyone, right?

Oh wait, maybe JUST maybe, we should not let illegals stay because we have the third highest child poverty rate in the ENTIRE world. Maybe we need to spend our taxes on the LEGAL children suffering, starving and have limited resources that continue to get taken away by illegal immigrants. Two other countries: Chile and Turkey have higher child poverty. We are America. How is that possible? Well it is. You can't nip poverty in the bud if you continue to allow more poor people in whenever they want. It is sickening how many sit here and cry racism for those who are against illegal immigration. If you want to help them, open up your purse and send some money to whatever country it is. Me? I want our taxes helping the 17 billion LEGAL children living in poverty (under 23K for a family of 4) in this country. Make our country stronger by helping our own citizens. You bring in every sad case from every other country and no one is helped, taxes increase, middle class shrinks and dies, schools and government resources start to fade.... and we will be the third world country. We already are heading in that direction.

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Anonymous wrote:That does not even remotely make sense. Refugees fleeing war and violence do not bring war to their new countries. Our country does not become just like "there" because of a change in skin color. Where did your ancestors immigrate from? What were conditions like there at the time? Nativists made exactly the same arguments when the Germans came, the Irish, the Italians, the Jews.

Not the PP but do you honestly think this is the same thing? LOL

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:That does not even remotely make sense. Refugees fleeing war and violence do not bring war to their new countries. Our country does not become just like "there" because of a change in skin color. Where did your ancestors immigrate from? What were conditions like there at the time? Nativists made exactly the same arguments when the Germans came, the Irish, the Italians, the Jews.

Not the PP but do you honestly think this is the same thing? LOL

Why not? You should look at what folks said about the Irish, the Italians, the Jews when they arrived.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:That does not even remotely make sense. Refugees fleeing war and violence do not bring war to their new countries. Our country does not become just like "there" because of a change in skin color. Where did your ancestors immigrate from? What were conditions like there at the time? Nativists made exactly the same arguments when the Germans came, the Irish, the Italians, the Jews.

Not the PP but do you honestly think this is the same thing? LOL

As long as the children of the Democratic elite can attend Sidwell and HYPS, open borders it is. If your kid can no longer find a summer job or an apartment in a safe neighborhood, that's all your fault.

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More, using the exact same arguments being used against Latinos now. Unless your people came over on the Mayflower, you weren't considered white when you got here, either.

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Anonymous wrote:Who is this person who keeps claiming white flight is going to Howard County. I've lived in DC on and off for 15 years, in the city and in the suburbs, and have never even met anyone who lives in Howard County let alone someone willing to do that commute. A handful of colleagues live in Anne Arundel County for specific school options, but this idea that a large number of Montgomery County residents will flee that far is unlikely.

Search the real estate thread for Howard County - many posts from people inquiring about Howard County as they consider it vs Mo Co for where to move to.

I don't doubt there are people who want to live in Howard County. What I doubt is that people who have actively chosen an urban, walkable, diverse, neighborhood like Takoma Park or Silver Spring are going to up and move 45 minutes away because they fear the coming Brown menace.

As a side note, I am curious how the demographics of Takoma Park will change in the upcoming years. There isn't really room to build more affordable housing (I'm not counting the new hipster-attracting development in the downtown area), and housing prices keep going up. It does attract higher-income, diverse families.

People that chose North Bethesda, Rockville, Gaithersburg, Clarksburg, etc... may not have wanted a walkable urban lifestyle but that is what is being shoved down everyone's throats. I know when I moved here 14yrs ago, it was to move to the SUBURBS. The growth in the area is absurd. High rise condo/apartments up and down 355. Gaithersburg used to be farmland and they are doing nothing but build build. And it isn't single family homes on 1/4 acre lots. It is mega mansions on 1/8 acre lot or rows of town homes or blocks of condos. An area that a normal suburb would have maybe 40 homes now has at least 100 homes. And the county continues to say apartment dwellers do not have school aged kids. So condos and apartments yield ZERO child growth when they attempt to figure out how many kids will be at a school in say 5 years. This is because the developers do not want to pay for schools so they continue the "non child dwelling" building and they line the pockets of those doing the surveys. It is such as scam. It is so overcrowded. 10 years and our elementary school went from 2 open classrooms to 8 portables outside. People want to move to areas that have homes in normal spaces of 1/4 acre or more. Howard County has that.

Hi, new poster here. I only have preschool age kids so have not experienced MCPS yet. How do Rockville schools fare in the overcrowding department? Reading all these posts of overcrowded schools is making me nervous! I can say though that I do believe the DC area has so much more job opportunities than other areas such as NY/NJ/PA as well as more reasonable housing opportunities in some cases, so much of the growth is likely also just coming from other areas of the country who find the DC area to be a good place to live with more opportunities for their families. Anyway, being that I have not experienced the schools firsthand yet, I would love some input on how the Rockville schools are in terms of overcrowding. Is this an issue? Thats where my kids will be in school.

[Anonymous]

MoCo tax base has shifted from those who give to those who get. A majority of students now need, before care, after care, breakfast and lunch and that majority gets greater everyday. The economic sustainability of running a top flight school system has become an impossibility in MoCo. The test scores prove it. The "temporary" classrooms at every elementary school prove it. The handwriting was on the wall when Doug Duncan went to Central America 11 years ago, when CASA de MD became a huge force, when Martin O declared MD a sanctuary state. It will take decades, if ever, for economic stability. Until then, MCPS is headed south for the general student population.

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Please--you be the one to tell the student of mine who has most recently arrived from Central America that he needs to be shipped back. His entire family is still there. He is living here with a distant relative he has never met. And he's 10.

He also has a stronger academic background than many of my students who only speak English and were born in the US. He will quickly surpass those students once he acquires English, and considering how strong his skills are--that won't be long.

But he's the problem with MCPS, according to you.

He's been through hell that you can't even imagine. No child should have to witness what he has.

Why are you and your children superior to this child who has more courage. drive and ambition than most children who were lucky enough to have been born here?

But let me guess--you're fine with it as long as children like him don't show up at your child's school???

My stomach hurts just thinking that people like you exist.

Not trying to be snarky but why did your student come here? His family is not here, he doesn't speak English, and you say that he was able to get a stronger academic background in his home country than kids here get.

https://news.vice.com/article/el-salvadors-young-people-are-killing-dying-and-running

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Anonymous wrote:Oh my goodness, you guys DO realize how racist you sound, right? "Hispanics are coming, there goes the neighborhood!" I hate to break it to you, but in the youngest generation, white people are a minority of the population. This means that most urban areas will become mostly non-white. But don't worry! White people don't have the market cornered on moral values or ambition. Also, FARMs kids are not all losers and dregs. In fact, I am a former white FARMs kid and I grew up and now have a HHI that is more than 20x what I grew up with. Things will change, and your white skin won't save you from hard work and adaptation.

Of course they realize it. They know, don't care, and are proud of it.

Hmm. I am Hispanic, and would not consider sending my child to a school with high numbers of low-income and non-English speaking students.

So what does that make me?