An interesting article about MCPS student population

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This is what white flight looks like in real time, the real question is what will happen to the area if it continues and if the historical effects such as depressed property values, school results and crime follow. Looking at the metrics the schools are starting to decline in those areas in the east.

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Anonymous wrote:This is what white flight looks like in real time, the real question is what will happen to the area if it continues and if the historical effects such as depressed property values, school results and crime follow. Looking at the metrics the schools are starting to decline in those areas in the east.

I'm on the east side of the county and all the schools in our area went UP one or two GS points this year.

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder why so many people who immigrate to the US come to Montgomery County. Not to knock MoCo, but I can think of so many other places in this country that are more affordable, have less crime, and would be easier to transition to. Maybe there are more resources for the Hispanic community; I don't know... But MoCo is pricey and not an easy place to move to.

I guess you haven't heard of the corrupt Casa De Maryland? That is why illegal immigration is #2 in Montgomery County, MD right after Los Angeles County, CA.

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Anonymous wrote:My guess is that a lot of white families had kids in MCPS and those kids graduated. And the majority of new arrivals to the county have not been white. Therefore white numbers went down and others went up.

I see this in my own neighborhood. Most of my white neighbors are older couples - emptynesters. Every time one of them moves out - a non-white family moves in.

This.

Also, Hispanics tend to have more kids per family; whites less so.

Less educated, poor, no birth control, free hand-outs from the government. School is free daycare

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is what white flight looks like in real time, the real question is what will happen to the area if it continues and if the historical effects such as depressed property values, school results and crime follow. Looking at the metrics the schools are starting to decline in those areas in the east.

I'm on the east side of the county and all the schools in our area went UP one or two GS points this year.

They changed the formula but still most went down over there. Rationalize it how you want but the proformace gap is as prevelant as it always is and the eastern part and county as a whole is getting browner and poorer so either we are solving the under performance of the poor and minorities or you are looking at the wrong gauges. Of course willfully ignorant is a possibility

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is what white flight looks like in real time, the real question is what will happen to the area if it continues and if the historical effects such as depressed property values, school results and crime follow. Looking at the metrics the schools are starting to decline in those areas in the east.

I'm on the east side of the county and all the schools in our area went UP one or two GS points this year.

They changed the formula but still most went down over there. Rationalize it how you want but the proformace gap is as prevelant as it always is and the eastern part and county as a whole is getting browner and poorer so either we are solving the under performance of the poor and minorities or you are looking at the wrong gauges. Of course willfully ignorant is a possibility

If they changed their formula, why did Whitman's score do down?

[Anonymous]

I imagine in 10-20 years there is going to be an increase in white flight to Howard County. The different areas of the county will increasingly become segregated by race. The tax base will shrink, leading to a further decline in schools and quality of life and services. I think moco is a shinking ship

[Anonymous]

Who is this person who keeps claiming white flight is going to Howard County. I've lived in DC on and off for 15 years, in the city and in the suburbs, and have never even met anyone who lives in Howard County let alone someone willing to do that commute. A handful of colleagues live in Anne Arundel County for specific school options, but this idea that a large number of Montgomery County residents will flee that far is unlikely.

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Anonymous wrote:Very interesting

Yes the question is where are the young whites going in the area

Personally I think its a combo of

less marriage/kids overall, going to private, white flight to Howard

The hispanic population has nearly doubled in less than 15 years.

Something has to give here. The tax base is shrinking and costs are increasing its not sustainable

+1

There is no way this county can support the kind of development/growth that has been occurring. Something will have to give. Police forces, schools all need funding and when that goes down, the standard of living goes down.

they need some way to curtail the development. I see new housing being built all over the place. Just look at crown farm. We don't have the infrastructure to deal with this. The schools certainly can't handle more kids.

The development recently seems OUT OF CONTROL. There is high density housing going up all over the county. Where is the plan for corresponding schools/roads, etc. The housing goes up so quickly and people move in, but I haven't seen them building more schools at the same time. The City of Rockville had a video out recently about projected population growth. I can't remember the numbers, but it is going to be an HUGE increase.

There's development in the Shady Grove area, in Olney, in Rockville, all over. I drive around the county a good deal and see condos/townhouses going up everywhere.

I agree that it's out of control. Who approves all of this development?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is what white flight looks like in real time, the real question is what will happen to the area if it continues and if the historical effects such as depressed property values, school results and crime follow. Looking at the metrics the schools are starting to decline in those areas in the east.

I'm on the east side of the county and all the schools in our area went UP one or two GS points this year.

They changed the formula but still most went down over there. Rationalize it how you want but the proformace gap is as prevelant as it always is and the eastern part and county as a whole is getting browner and poorer so either we are solving the under performance of the poor and minorities or you are looking at the wrong gauges. Of course willfully ignorant is a possibility

If they changed their formula, why did Whitman's score do down?

Because it got demerits for not having a representative amount of Farms kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Who is this person who keeps claiming white flight is going to Howard County. I've lived in DC on and off for 15 years, in the city and in the suburbs, and have never even met anyone who lives in Howard County let alone someone willing to do that commute. A handful of colleagues live in Anne Arundel County for specific school options, but this idea that a large number of Montgomery County residents will flee that far is unlikely.

FWIW, we know of several families that moved to Howard County. Many government agencies are moving toward a better telework policy, which means government workers won't all need to live close-in. I work in Anne Arundel County and often meet people who commute to DC from there also.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wonder why so many people who immigrate to the US come to Montgomery County. Not to knock MoCo, but I can think of so many other places in this country that are more affordable, have less crime, and would be easier to transition to. Maybe there are more resources for the Hispanic community; I don't know... But MoCo is pricey and not an easy place to move to.

Yes, for sure. There's CASA de Maryland, as well as provisions for Hispanic immigrants - you can obtain a driver's license with a foreign passport. Also, decent health insurance coverage. MD is a pretty welcoming state for immigrants.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Very interesting

Yes the question is where are the young whites going in the area

Personally I think its a combo of

less marriage/kids overall, going to private, white flight to Howard

The hispanic population has nearly doubled in less than 15 years.

Something has to give here. The tax base is shrinking and costs are increasing its not sustainable

+1

There is no way this county can support the kind of development/growth that has been occurring. Something will have to give. Police forces, schools all need funding and when that goes down, the standard of living goes down.

Welcome to the third world.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who is this person who keeps claiming white flight is going to Howard County. I've lived in DC on and off for 15 years, in the city and in the suburbs, and have never even met anyone who lives in Howard County let alone someone willing to do that commute. A handful of colleagues live in Anne Arundel County for specific school options, but this idea that a large number of Montgomery County residents will flee that far is unlikely.

FWIW, we know of several families that moved to Howard County. Many government agencies are moving toward a better telework policy, which means government workers won't all need to live close-in. I work in Anne Arundel County and often meet people who commute to DC from there also.

Before moving to Montgomery County, I lived in Howard for 12 years. It's a great county, wouldn't hesitate to go back.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Very interesting

Yes the question is where are the young whites going in the area

Personally I think its a combo of

less marriage/kids overall, going to private, white flight to Howard

The hispanic population has nearly doubled in less than 15 years.

Something has to give here. The tax base is shrinking and costs are increasing its not sustainable

Ha. Tell that to the Council next week when they meet re the Downtown Bethesda Plan. You'll see more flight soon if Floreen and her gaggle doesn't wise up. They are intent on ruining Bethesda.