An interesting article about MCPS student population

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We are true middle class (not Potomac middle class) and we moved one to private at 6th and our youngest is in public with a hope of staying until 5th but this year has been a train wreck so we are looking at private for next year.

By train wreck:
1. Math is way too easy for 2nd. They haven't even learned money, time or fractions yet. Just very boring writing out numbers and extremely easy graphs. Who has more? Things kids in preschool could do.
2. HW is the same sheet different numbers every night. There has been 7 errors located on those sheets already
3. The teacher is flustered and mean. She doesn't look any kids in the face. She talks down to them. Even when parents volunteer or open house day.
4. My child's anxiety about school has increased. They have 27 kids in their class and many don't give a crap about being there or their school work. A lot of kids being sent to principal, teacher yelling, kids disrupting other kids. At least 5 that do not speak English.
5. My child is in the top reading group and they meet 2 times a week while other groups meet 3-4 times a week.
6. Most of the day is spent with kids at their desks self-guiding themselves to do worksheets or read. There is ver little actual teaching going on.
7. 2.0 has been awful. My oldest missed it so comparing both it is obvious which one was better.

How do you know this? Did you observe or hear it from the kids? just curious

Hear from child (did you have reading group today) as well as observe. I volunteer once a week in her class since K.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We are true middle class (not Potomac middle class) and we moved one to private at 6th and our youngest is in public with a hope of staying until 5th but this year has been a train wreck so we are looking at private for next year.

By train wreck:
1. Math is way too easy for 2nd. They haven't even learned money, time or fractions yet. Just very boring writing out numbers and extremely easy graphs. Who has more? Things kids in preschool could do.
2. HW is the same sheet different numbers every night. There has been 7 errors located on those sheets already
3. The teacher is flustered and mean. She doesn't look any kids in the face. She talks down to them. Even when parents volunteer or open house day.
4. My child's anxiety about school has increased. They have 27 kids in their class and many don't give a crap about being there or their school work. A lot of kids being sent to principal, teacher yelling, kids disrupting other kids. At least 5 that do not speak English.
5. My child is in the top reading group and they meet 2 times a week while other groups meet 3-4 times a week.
6. Most of the day is spent with kids at their desks self-guiding themselves to do worksheets or read. There is ver little actual teaching going on.
7. 2.0 has been awful. My oldest missed it so comparing both it is obvious which one was better.

Can you share which school this is please?

I rather not because it could easily tag me but is not a W school and not a focus or Title 1 school. Basic mid-county 20% FARMS school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really don't understand people threatening "if the schools get any more full of immigrants we're going to leave and then they'll be sorry!" Public schools are there to educate the kids who are there. They really don't care if you pull your kid. And I don't buy the argument that property values will fall and school funding will tank. There are a lot of poorly rated schools in DC where the surrounding homes are incredibly expensive. People are always going to want to live in close-in areas with good commutes. You guys can worry about test scores and property values all you want, but rest assured that MCPS officials are not sitting around worrying that wealthy white people will leave. Many administrators are actually not wealthy white people themselves.

Um, school funding has already tanked and what little they get, goes towards ESOL and FARMS and not to building more schools. Hence a decade of overcrowded schools.

My oldest is 15. Youngest is 6. ESOL has quadrupled in our school and FARMS has tripled. Less than 10 years. This is a Rockville ES. Every year the office is flooded with kids that just show up and never registered for school the first few days. They increase the ratios and the school can't get an allocation for a teacher as easy once school starts. Never mind the fact that they can't speak English.

If MCPS was funded do well, why is there so much overcrowding and continued delays on building projects. Wouldn't all these new people mean an abundance of taxes towards the school? Nope

Yep. Our school is seeing the exact same thing. BCC cluster. This problem with illegals infliltrating the schools and soaking up resources from other kids (including other NEEDY kids who could have so much MORE) is everywhere in Montco and only the W's and their feeder elementary schools are immune. They are immune because there is no low income housing in their boundaries. We bought where we did instead of Bethesda for some diversity and to avoid an all upper income white school but we were not expecting this. The majority is become the minority and the minority can't speak English. It is totally out of control and shows no signs of slowing down.

W schools will get theirs with Westbard and then a redistricting...give it a year or two.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We are true middle class (not Potomac middle class) and we moved one to private at 6th and our youngest is in public with a hope of staying until 5th but this year has been a train wreck so we are looking at private for next year.

By train wreck:
1. Math is way too easy for 2nd. They haven't even learned money, time or fractions yet. Just very boring writing out numbers and extremely easy graphs. Who has more? Things kids in preschool could do.
2. HW is the same sheet different numbers every night. There has been 7 errors located on those sheets already
3. The teacher is flustered and mean. She doesn't look any kids in the face. She talks down to them. Even when parents volunteer or open house day.
4. My child's anxiety about school has increased. They have 27 kids in their class and many don't give a crap about being there or their school work. A lot of kids being sent to principal, teacher yelling, kids disrupting other kids. At least 5 that do not speak English.
5. My child is in the top reading group and they meet 2 times a week while other groups meet 3-4 times a week.
6. Most of the day is spent with kids at their desks self-guiding themselves to do worksheets or read. There is ver little actual teaching going on.
7. 2.0 has been awful. My oldest missed it so comparing both it is obvious which one was better.

Can you share which school this is please?

I rather not because it could easily tag me but is not a W school and not a focus or Title 1 school. Basic mid-county 20% FARMS school.

Not PP, but my DC learned how to count money in first grade (though we did it at home, too), and learned how to tell time (including half past, quarter past, x before the hour) in 2nd grade. I also volunteered in the class so I saw what they were learning.

This is in a non W cluster, not title 1/focus school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We are true middle class (not Potomac middle class) and we moved one to private at 6th and our youngest is in public with a hope of staying until 5th but this year has been a train wreck so we are looking at private for next year.

By train wreck:
1. Math is way too easy for 2nd. They haven't even learned money, time or fractions yet. Just very boring writing out numbers and extremely easy graphs. Who has more? Things kids in preschool could do.
2. HW is the same sheet different numbers every night. There has been 7 errors located on those sheets already
3. The teacher is flustered and mean. She doesn't look any kids in the face. She talks down to them. Even when parents volunteer or open house day.
4. My child's anxiety about school has increased. They have 27 kids in their class and many don't give a crap about being there or their school work. A lot of kids being sent to principal, teacher yelling, kids disrupting other kids. At least 5 that do not speak English.
5. My child is in the top reading group and they meet 2 times a week while other groups meet 3-4 times a week.
6. Most of the day is spent with kids at their desks self-guiding themselves to do worksheets or read. There is ver little actual teaching going on.
7. 2.0 has been awful. My oldest missed it so comparing both it is obvious which one was better.

How do you know this? Did you observe or hear it from the kids? just curious

Hear from child (did you have reading group today) as well as observe. I volunteer once a week in her class since K.

I have seen the exact same thing as you. So much so that I wonder if we are at the same school. Except our teacher is super nice, very smart and I like her a lot. I volunteer twice a week, once in the class and once at lunch and recess where it is like the Wild Wild West because there are not enough staff supervising. If I have time, I will help out in the class then too. I never had much of a problem with "immigration" because I never personally saw the issues on the ground until I saw our school take a complete turn in the past 3 years. The teacher can not keep up and can not communicate with a quarter of the class and spends most of the times focused on them. They are 8 year olds and are still working on 4 plus 4.

The class also has an ESOL teacher who comes in a works with the Spanish speakers exclusively for almost an hour while the rest of the kids get 5 minutes in groups of 7 to 8 with the teacher and then move to stations to teach themselves or socialize. It is so concerning. So I have to come here to vent because I feel helpless.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We are true middle class (not Potomac middle class) and we moved one to private at 6th and our youngest is in public with a hope of staying until 5th but this year has been a train wreck so we are looking at private for next year.

By train wreck:
1. Math is way too easy for 2nd. They haven't even learned money, time or fractions yet. Just very boring writing out numbers and extremely easy graphs. Who has more? Things kids in preschool could do.
2. HW is the same sheet different numbers every night. There has been 7 errors located on those sheets already
3. The teacher is flustered and mean. She doesn't look any kids in the face. She talks down to them. Even when parents volunteer or open house day.
4. My child's anxiety about school has increased. They have 27 kids in their class and many don't give a crap about being there or their school work. A lot of kids being sent to principal, teacher yelling, kids disrupting other kids. At least 5 that do not speak English.
5. My child is in the top reading group and they meet 2 times a week while other groups meet 3-4 times a week.
6. Most of the day is spent with kids at their desks self-guiding themselves to do worksheets or read. There is ver little actual teaching going on.
7. 2.0 has been awful. My oldest missed it so comparing both it is obvious which one was better.

How do you know this? Did you observe or hear it from the kids? just curious

Hear from child (did you have reading group today) as well as observe. I volunteer once a week in her class since K.

You are lucky. At some schools, they no longer welcome parent volunteers - don't want people to see what really goes on.