An interesting article about MCPS student population

[Anonymous]

An article on the huge increase of students overall in the last 15+ years and how Hispanics are now the majority of the students in the entire county. What I am trying to figure out is if the whites are fleeing the county, moving to private schools, or something else. That is a huge decrease in numbers.

http://www.mymcmedia.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/10.11.16-demo-2.png

http://www.mymcmedia.org/student-population-changes-in-montgomery-public-schools-video/

[Anonymous]

Without reading the articles, I'd guess at least part of it is an overall development boom in the county. My neighborhood of SS is actually whiter today than it was 10 years ago, but there's also a TON more housing in the area than there was. So our neighborhood of SFHs is getting whiter and more affluent while thousands of low income units go up a mile away.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:An article on the huge increase of students overall in the last 15+ years and how Hispanics are now the majority of the students in the entire county. What I am trying to figure out is if the whites are fleeing the county, moving to private schools, or something else. That is a huge decrease in numbers.

http://www.mymcmedia.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/10.11.16-demo-2.png

http://www.mymcmedia.org/student-population-changes-in-montgomery-public-schools-video/

Some of that is whites now staying in DC for school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Without reading the articles, I'd guess at least part of it is an overall development boom in the county. My neighborhood of SS is actually whiter today than it was 10 years ago, but there's also a TON more housing in the area than there was. So our neighborhood of SFHs is getting whiter and more affluent while thousands of low income units go up a mile away.

+1

The issue here isn't so much flight as affordable housing RE development. There has been "white flight" east of the county (w/ the exception of Takoma Park), but it appears its just migrating west of the county. Thus the main reason for the uptick in segregated schools.

On a separate note, I would be curious to see how profitable these affordable housing developers are in this area. MD is not business or landlord friendly for residential and commercial RE business owners. In fact, its extremely tenant friendly. I can't imagine that the margins would be worth it. Unless they are building crappy housing. Maybe thats it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Without reading the articles, I'd guess at least part of it is an overall development boom in the county. My neighborhood of SS is actually whiter today than it was 10 years ago, but there's also a TON more housing in the area than there was. So our neighborhood of SFHs is getting whiter and more affluent while thousands of low income units go up a mile away.

+1

The issue here isn't so much flight as affordable housing RE development. There has been "white flight" east of the county (w/ the exception of Takoma Park), but it appears its just migrating west of the county. Thus the main reason for the uptick in segregated schools.

On a separate note, I would be curious to see how profitable these affordable housing developers are in this area. MD is not business or landlord friendly for residential and commercial RE business owners. In fact, its extremely tenant friendly. I can't imagine that the margins would be worth it. Unless they are building crappy housing. Maybe thats it.

But that doesn't account for the huge DROP in overall white students in MCPS. Where are they all going?

[Anonymous]

I wonder why so many people who immigrate to the US come to Montgomery County. Not to knock MoCo, but I can think of so many other places in this country that are more affordable, have less crime, and would be easier to transition to. Maybe there are more resources for the Hispanic community; I don't know... But MoCo is pricey and not an easy place to move to.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Without reading the articles, I'd guess at least part of it is an overall development boom in the county. My neighborhood of SS is actually whiter today than it was 10 years ago, but there's also a TON more housing in the area than there was. So our neighborhood of SFHs is getting whiter and more affluent while thousands of low income units go up a mile away.

+1

The issue here isn't so much flight as affordable housing RE development. There has been "white flight" east of the county (w/ the exception of Takoma Park), but it appears its just migrating west of the county. Thus the main reason for the uptick in segregated schools.

On a separate note, I would be curious to see how profitable these affordable housing developers are in this area. MD is not business or landlord friendly for residential and commercial RE business owners. In fact, its extremely tenant friendly. I can't imagine that the margins would be worth it. Unless they are building crappy housing. Maybe thats it.

But that doesn't account for the huge DROP in overall white students in MCPS. Where are they all going?

Is it a numerical drop or a proportional drop?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wonder why so many people who immigrate to the US come to Montgomery County. Not to knock MoCo, but I can think of so many other places in this country that are more affordable, have less crime, and would be easier to transition to. Maybe there are more resources for the Hispanic community; I don't know... But MoCo is pricey and not an easy place to move to.

Probably b/c they have established communities here. NOVA is also a popular place.

[Anonymous]

Very interesting

Yes the question is where are the young whites going in the area

Personally I think its a combo of

less marriage/kids overall, going to private, white flight to Howard

The hispanic population has nearly doubled in less than 15 years.

Something has to give here. The tax base is shrinking and costs are increasing its not sustainable

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Without reading the articles, I'd guess at least part of it is an overall development boom in the county. My neighborhood of SS is actually whiter today than it was 10 years ago, but there's also a TON more housing in the area than there was. So our neighborhood of SFHs is getting whiter and more affluent while thousands of low income units go up a mile away.

+1

The issue here isn't so much flight as affordable housing RE development. There has been "white flight" east of the county (w/ the exception of Takoma Park), but it appears its just migrating west of the county. Thus the main reason for the uptick in segregated schools.

On a separate note, I would be curious to see how profitable these affordable housing developers are in this area. MD is not business or landlord friendly for residential and commercial RE business owners. In fact, its extremely tenant friendly. I can't imagine that the margins would be worth it. Unless they are building crappy housing. Maybe thats it.

But that doesn't account for the huge DROP in overall white students in MCPS. Where are they all going?

Is it a numerical drop or a proportional drop?

It's a numerical drop (seriously, just click on the first link in the Op and you'll see a graph). I agree with the OP -- interesting question.

[Anonymous]

Seeing they let schools close for most any holiday for whatever group, it has just been announced that schools will be closed May 5th.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Is it a numerical drop or a proportional drop?

According to the chart in the OP link, it is a numerical drop. According to the chart, the number of White, Non-Hispanic students enrolled dropped from 68,849 in 2000 to 46,604 in 2016.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Is it a numerical drop or a proportional drop?

According to the chart in the OP link, it is a numerical drop. According to the chart, the number of White, Non-Hispanic students enrolled dropped from 68,849 in 2000 to 46,604 in 2016.

Interesting! I'll bet some of it is white families staying in DC since the big drop comes right around the time DC implemented free preK and expanded the charter effort. Some of it is probably fewer kids identifying as only white, and some of it is just demographic shifts nationwide. Interestingly, the number of Black kids isn't rising quickly, nor the number of Asian kids. The only group with real growth is Hispanics, which is almost certainly related to turmoil in Central and South America over the past decade.

[Anonymous]

so its safe to say a bunch of illegals have gone to Montgomery County

[Anonymous]

My guess is that a lot of white families had kids in MCPS and those kids graduated. And the majority of new arrivals to the county have not been white. Therefore white numbers went down and others went up.

I see this in my own neighborhood. Most of my white neighbors are older couples - emptynesters. Every time one of them moves out - a non-white family moves in.