Liberal policing and policies in San Francisco

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Walnut Creek (a very nice area, with houses ranging from $1M to $3M) has just announced a curfew to try to stem the looting.

But we were told looting/shoplifting was a 'victimless' crime.......yet look at that. Law abiding citizens are having their freedoms curtailed because outlaws are reigning anarchy because apparently they deserve free stuff.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^ wow, some DAs admitting that they won’t prosecute any shoplifting… wow.

How can they possibly be surprised when this is the result?

It’s just things. Prosecuting these victimless crimes serves no societal good. It only serves to break up families (I thought republicans were pro-family values) and then creates at risk youth. In effect we should decriminalize these actions so as not to affect the futures of the people caught up in it.
I’m not saying turn a blind eye, but rather create jobs and intervention programs that offer a path to dignity, a solid paycheck (coupled with UBI), and reinvest in communities that our society has neglected.

Ugh. I hope you don’t represent the average voter.

Sometimes you have to punish crime. That’s it. We should legalize drugs and prostitution, but keep penalties for shoplifting and violent crime. If not, this is going to get worse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm still waiting for someone to show specific council ordnances, orders etc telling police and prosecutors to stand down and not bother with people stealing thousands of dollars of merch.

There are quotes from DAs saying they don’t want to prosecute shoplifting anymore, if that’s what you’re looking for. I’m not sure if anyone is telling them that. I think it’s what they run on, because they know their democratic base likes it.

The SF prosecutor Chesa is being recalled for this.

So in other words it's a unilateral decision by one single foolish person, unsupported by any legal statutes or governing body. Meanwhile they are still prosecuting but at a lower rate. Meanwhile it doesn't absolve police of their duty to continue responding to calls and making arrests. If police aren't bothering to respond to these flash-mob robberies because they *might* not get prosecuted then that is the police intentionally deciding to not uphold law and make the problem even worse.

[Anonymous]

Oakland security guard dies after the grandfather of three was shot while protecting a TV crew reporting on scourge of smash-and-grab looting in Bay Area

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10249483/Oakland-security-guard-shot-protecting-TV-crew-dies.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^ wow, some DAs admitting that they won’t prosecute any shoplifting… wow.

How can they possibly be surprised when this is the result?

It’s just things. Prosecuting these victimless crimes serves no societal good. It only serves to break up families (I thought republicans were pro-family values) and then creates at risk youth. In effect we should decriminalize these actions so as not to affect the futures of the people caught up in it.
I’m not saying turn a blind eye, but rather create jobs and intervention programs that offer a path to dignity, a solid paycheck (coupled with UBI), and reinvest in communities that our society has neglected.

We’ve been doing that for 60 years, and it has exacerbated these problems. It is time for a new approach that treats people like adults rather than dependents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^ wow, some DAs admitting that they won’t prosecute any shoplifting… wow.

How can they possibly be surprised when this is the result?

It’s just things. Prosecuting these victimless crimes serves no societal good. It only serves to break up families (I thought republicans were pro-family values) and then creates at risk youth. In effect we should decriminalize these actions so as not to affect the futures of the people caught up in it.
I’m not saying turn a blind eye, but rather create jobs and intervention programs that offer a path to dignity, a solid paycheck (coupled with UBI), and reinvest in communities that our society has neglected.

There can never be dignity when you give these people money for nothing and you expect absolutely nothing from them in terms of behavior, you just expect that they’re going to act like zoo animals. The way to dignity is with standards and work so they can have pride in their behavior and what they have done.

The sooner democrats understand that, the sooner we can start to improve our society.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^ wow, some DAs admitting that they won’t prosecute any shoplifting… wow.

How can they possibly be surprised when this is the result?

It’s just things. Prosecuting these victimless crimes serves no societal good. It only serves to break up families (I thought republicans were pro-family values) and then creates at risk youth. In effect we should decriminalize these actions so as not to affect the futures of the people caught up in it.
I’m not saying turn a blind eye, but rather create jobs and intervention programs that offer a path to dignity, a solid paycheck (coupled with UBI), and reinvest in communities that our society has neglected.

There can never be dignity when you give these people money for nothing and you expect absolutely nothing from them in terms of behavior, you just expect that they’re going to act like zoo animals. The way to dignity is with standards and work so they can have pride in their behavior and what they have done.

The sooner democrats understand that, the sooner we can start to improve our society.

Your response drips with privilege.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oakland security guard dies after the grandfather of three was shot while protecting a TV crew reporting on scourge of smash-and-grab looting in Bay Area

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10249483/Oakland-security-guard-shot-protecting-TV-crew-dies.html

Ignore

IGNORE

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^ wow, some DAs admitting that they won’t prosecute any shoplifting… wow.

How can they possibly be surprised when this is the result?

It’s just things. Prosecuting these victimless crimes serves no societal good. It only serves to break up families (I thought republicans were pro-family values) and then creates at risk youth. In effect we should decriminalize these actions so as not to affect the futures of the people caught up in it.
I’m not saying turn a blind eye, but rather create jobs and intervention programs that offer a path to dignity, a solid paycheck (coupled with UBI), and reinvest in communities that our society has neglected.

There can never be dignity when you give these people money for nothing and you expect absolutely nothing from them in terms of behavior, you just expect that they’re going to act like zoo animals. The way to dignity is with standards and work so they can have pride in their behavior and what they have done.

The sooner democrats understand that, the sooner we can start to improve our society.

Your response drips with privilege.

DP.
No. It is actually an accurate post.
Do you think that one having standards and dignity equals "privilege?"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^ wow, some DAs admitting that they won’t prosecute any shoplifting… wow.

How can they possibly be surprised when this is the result?

It’s just things. Prosecuting these victimless crimes serves no societal good. It only serves to break up families (I thought republicans were pro-family values) and then creates at risk youth. In effect we should decriminalize these actions so as not to affect the futures of the people caught up in it.
I’m not saying turn a blind eye, but rather create jobs and intervention programs that offer a path to dignity, a solid paycheck (coupled with UBI), and reinvest in communities that our society has neglected.

There can never be dignity when you give these people money for nothing and you expect absolutely nothing from them in terms of behavior, you just expect that they’re going to act like zoo animals. The way to dignity is with standards and work so they can have pride in their behavior and what they have done.

The sooner democrats understand that, the sooner we can start to improve our society.

Your response drips with privilege.

You’re 100% wrong on that. That’s why I know what works and what doesn’t.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^ wow, some DAs admitting that they won’t prosecute any shoplifting… wow.

How can they possibly be surprised when this is the result?

It’s just things. Prosecuting these victimless crimes serves no societal good. It only serves to break up families (I thought republicans were pro-family values) and then creates at risk youth. In effect we should decriminalize these actions so as not to affect the futures of the people caught up in it.
I’m not saying turn a blind eye, but rather create jobs and intervention programs that offer a path to dignity, a solid paycheck (coupled with UBI), and reinvest in communities that our society has neglected.

There can never be dignity when you give these people money for nothing and you expect absolutely nothing from them in terms of behavior, you just expect that they’re going to act like zoo animals. The way to dignity is with standards and work so they can have pride in their behavior and what they have done.

The sooner democrats understand that, the sooner we can start to improve our society.

Your response drips with privilege.

DP.
No. It is actually an accurate post.
Do you think that one having standards and dignity equals "privilege?"

These are the same people who think hard work and timeliness are racist tropes. You’re wasting your time talking to imbeciles.

[Anonymous]

Allowing all the looting after George Floyd was a huge mistake. It normalized unacceptable behavior.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not sure how to embed this but it’s absolutely hilarious.

“Here we have a looter that has bitten off a bit more than he can chew. The other looters move in... ”

https://streamable.com/4hwjqe

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Walnut Creek (a very nice area, with houses ranging from $1M to $3M) has just announced a curfew to try to stem the looting.

Ah. So law-abiding people must cower in their homes after a certain time, while criminals continue their looting sprees, free of crowds. Makes sense. /s

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^ wow, some DAs admitting that they won’t prosecute any shoplifting… wow.

How can they possibly be surprised when this is the result?

It’s just things. Prosecuting these victimless crimes serves no societal good. It only serves to break up families (I thought republicans were pro-family values) and then creates at risk youth. In effect we should decriminalize these actions so as not to affect the futures of the people caught up in it.
I’m not saying turn a blind eye, but rather create jobs and intervention programs that offer a path to dignity, a solid paycheck (coupled with UBI), and reinvest in communities that our society has neglected.

Ugh. I hope you don’t represent the average voter.

Sometimes you have to punish crime. That’s it. We should legalize drugs and prostitution, but keep penalties for shoplifting and violent crime. If not, this is going to get worse.

No worries. The PP represents the average nutjob. Normal Americans are going to show their disgust at the polls.