Liberal policing and policies in San Francisco

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's true. San Francisco has always stood for the freedoms that the right wing hates.

Well, one of my ancestors was a union organizer in the ports and the City described in his journals was a racist place where only white men could have a hope of getting into the union and women were exploited as what you call sex workers but he called whores. SF got its liberal veneer when post WWII suburbanization cost an exodus and cheap housing that attracted artists, counterculture folk, and men and women challenging their sexual identities.

My parents still live there and are ultra liberal. We have to help them financially because they never worked consistently and have snorted any money they earned. They will be here at Christmas and lecture us for being Trump supporters (we are Democrats) because our children have their own beds, the house is clean, and we allow the children to believe in Santa Claus. My husband has learned to ignore them and take the children for walks and bike rides during their outbursts. I stay there to make sure they don’t do something to the house or themselves.

They are liberal San Francisco to the core, but actually selfish and immature

DP. You're a better person than I am. I wouldn't have those people in my house - ever.

I don’t think there’s anything good or “better” about children being exposed to smug clueless useless liberals.

[Anonymous]

Great title to this editorial: "Refunding the San Franciso Police":

As crime has risen, the defund-the-police movement has become a political liability even for Democrats in progressive cities. Exhibit A is San Francisco, where Mayor London Breed appears to have had a law-and-order conversion for the ages.

That’s a welcome statement, but it’s a reversal for Ms. Breed, who championed sizeable cuts to the police budget in the aftermath of George Floyd’s murder. The mayor now says she’ll introduce a supplement to the current budget to pay for more policing. She also wants more funding in the next budget for officer overtime and police-academy classes.

She wants to target open-air drug dealing, and she’s also coordinating with police and the sheriff’s office on a felony warrant sweep. That sounds suspiciously like broken-windows policing.

What prompted this change of heart? Ms. Breed acknowledged Wednesday that “the fact is things have gotten worse over time.”

No kidding. By Dec. 12, San Francisco had 53 homicides this year, up from 48 in all of 2020 and 41 in 2019. Smash-and-grab robbery gangs and shoplifting in the city have become global viral videos, and police data show an 18% increase in larcenies since last year. Homeless camps on the street, drug use, and public disorder are rampant.

Residents are fed up with the lawlessness, and tourists are afraid to visit. San Francisco’s radical district attorney, Chesa Boudin, faces a recall election in June. There’s a lot of ruin in a city, but apparently even the progressives in San Francisco may have had enough.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/refunding-the-san-francisco-police-london-breed-crime-11639696468

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Great title to this editorial: "Refunding the San Franciso Police":

As crime has risen, the defund-the-police movement has become a political liability even for Democrats in progressive cities. Exhibit A is San Francisco, where Mayor London Breed appears to have had a law-and-order conversion for the ages.

That’s a welcome statement, but it’s a reversal for Ms. Breed, who championed sizeable cuts to the police budget in the aftermath of George Floyd’s murder. The mayor now says she’ll introduce a supplement to the current budget to pay for more policing. She also wants more funding in the next budget for officer overtime and police-academy classes.

She wants to target open-air drug dealing, and she’s also coordinating with police and the sheriff’s office on a felony warrant sweep. That sounds suspiciously like broken-windows policing.

What prompted this change of heart? Ms. Breed acknowledged Wednesday that “the fact is things have gotten worse over time.”

No kidding. By Dec. 12, San Francisco had 53 homicides this year, up from 48 in all of 2020 and 41 in 2019. Smash-and-grab robbery gangs and shoplifting in the city have become global viral videos, and police data show an 18% increase in larcenies since last year. Homeless camps on the street, drug use, and public disorder are rampant.

Residents are fed up with the lawlessness, and tourists are afraid to visit. San Francisco’s radical district attorney, Chesa Boudin, faces a recall election in June. There’s a lot of ruin in a city, but apparently even the progressives in San Francisco may have had enough.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/refunding-the-san-francisco-police-london-breed-crime-11639696468

Weird that the mayor would think things were getting worse when the experts here know that it totally isn't.

Maybe someone should give her a ring and let her know she can stop worrying and enforcing the laws and all that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Great title to this editorial: "Refunding the San Franciso Police":

As crime has risen, the defund-the-police movement has become a political liability even for Democrats in progressive cities. Exhibit A is San Francisco, where Mayor London Breed appears to have had a law-and-order conversion for the ages.

That’s a welcome statement, but it’s a reversal for Ms. Breed, who championed sizeable cuts to the police budget in the aftermath of George Floyd’s murder. The mayor now says she’ll introduce a supplement to the current budget to pay for more policing. She also wants more funding in the next budget for officer overtime and police-academy classes.

She wants to target open-air drug dealing, and she’s also coordinating with police and the sheriff’s office on a felony warrant sweep. That sounds suspiciously like broken-windows policing.

What prompted this change of heart? Ms. Breed acknowledged Wednesday that “the fact is things have gotten worse over time.”

No kidding. By Dec. 12, San Francisco had 53 homicides this year, up from 48 in all of 2020 and 41 in 2019. Smash-and-grab robbery gangs and shoplifting in the city have become global viral videos, and police data show an 18% increase in larcenies since last year. Homeless camps on the street, drug use, and public disorder are rampant.

Residents are fed up with the lawlessness, and tourists are afraid to visit. San Francisco’s radical district attorney, Chesa Boudin, faces a recall election in June. There’s a lot of ruin in a city, but apparently even the progressives in San Francisco may have had enough.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/refunding-the-san-francisco-police-london-breed-crime-11639696468

Weird that the mayor would think things were getting worse when the experts here know that it totally isn't.

Maybe someone should give her a ring and let her know she can stop worrying and enforcing the laws and all that.

Seriously.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Great title to this editorial: "Refunding the San Franciso Police":

As crime has risen, the defund-the-police movement has become a political liability even for Democrats in progressive cities. Exhibit A is San Francisco, where Mayor London Breed appears to have had a law-and-order conversion for the ages.

That’s a welcome statement, but it’s a reversal for Ms. Breed, who championed sizeable cuts to the police budget in the aftermath of George Floyd’s murder. The mayor now says she’ll introduce a supplement to the current budget to pay for more policing. She also wants more funding in the next budget for officer overtime and police-academy classes.

She wants to target open-air drug dealing, and she’s also coordinating with police and the sheriff’s office on a felony warrant sweep. That sounds suspiciously like broken-windows policing.

What prompted this change of heart? Ms. Breed acknowledged Wednesday that “the fact is things have gotten worse over time.”

No kidding. By Dec. 12, San Francisco had 53 homicides this year, up from 48 in all of 2020 and 41 in 2019. Smash-and-grab robbery gangs and shoplifting in the city have become global viral videos, and police data show an 18% increase in larcenies since last year. Homeless camps on the street, drug use, and public disorder are rampant.

Residents are fed up with the lawlessness, and tourists are afraid to visit. San Francisco’s radical district attorney, Chesa Boudin, faces a recall election in June. There’s a lot of ruin in a city, but apparently even the progressives in San Francisco may have had enough.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/refunding-the-san-francisco-police-london-breed-crime-11639696468

Weird that the mayor would think things were getting worse when the experts here know that it totally isn't.

Maybe someone should give her a ring and let her know she can stop worrying and enforcing the laws and all that.

Seriously.

That’s because we’re conversing with people who probably shuttle their kids to St. Albans in new Volvo SUVs, have a few political yard signs at their $1.5m Tenley or AU Park homes, and reaaaaally know they’re on the right side of history. Except that crime is shooting up because coddling criminals isn’t great for vibrant cities. I live in the middle of the city and wish I could vote for a fiscally conservative, socially liberal tough on crime politician: I get Charles Allen. Hooray! Let’s get some more violence interruptors over here! They do so much! I guess it’ll take a few years until all this half baked woke bs works itself out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Great title to this editorial: "Refunding the San Franciso Police":

As crime has risen, the defund-the-police movement has become a political liability even for Democrats in progressive cities. Exhibit A is San Francisco, where Mayor London Breed appears to have had a law-and-order conversion for the ages.

That’s a welcome statement, but it’s a reversal for Ms. Breed, who championed sizeable cuts to the police budget in the aftermath of George Floyd’s murder. The mayor now says she’ll introduce a supplement to the current budget to pay for more policing. She also wants more funding in the next budget for officer overtime and police-academy classes.

She wants to target open-air drug dealing, and she’s also coordinating with police and the sheriff’s office on a felony warrant sweep. That sounds suspiciously like broken-windows policing.

What prompted this change of heart? Ms. Breed acknowledged Wednesday that “the fact is things have gotten worse over time.”

No kidding. By Dec. 12, San Francisco had 53 homicides this year, up from 48 in all of 2020 and 41 in 2019. Smash-and-grab robbery gangs and shoplifting in the city have become global viral videos, and police data show an 18% increase in larcenies since last year. Homeless camps on the street, drug use, and public disorder are rampant.

Residents are fed up with the lawlessness, and tourists are afraid to visit. San Francisco’s radical district attorney, Chesa Boudin, faces a recall election in June. There’s a lot of ruin in a city, but apparently even the progressives in San Francisco may have had enough.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/refunding-the-san-francisco-police-london-breed-crime-11639696468

Weird that the mayor would think things were getting worse when the experts here know that it totally isn't.

Maybe someone should give her a ring and let her know she can stop worrying and enforcing the laws and all that.

Seriously.

That’s because we’re conversing with people who probably shuttle their kids to St. Albans in new Volvo SUVs, have a few political yard signs at their $1.5m Tenley or AU Park homes, and reaaaaally know they’re on the right side of history. Except that crime is shooting up because coddling criminals isn’t great for vibrant cities. I live in the middle of the city and wish I could vote for a fiscally conservative, socially liberal tough on crime politician: I get Charles Allen. Hooray! Let’s get some more violence interruptors over here! They do so much! I guess it’ll take a few years until all this half baked woke bs works itself out.

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But make no mistake - voters absolutely will fight back at the polls. People are sick of this idiocy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Great title to this editorial: "Refunding the San Franciso Police":

As crime has risen, the defund-the-police movement has become a political liability even for Democrats in progressive cities. Exhibit A is San Francisco, where Mayor London Breed appears to have had a law-and-order conversion for the ages.

That’s a welcome statement, but it’s a reversal for Ms. Breed, who championed sizeable cuts to the police budget in the aftermath of George Floyd’s murder. The mayor now says she’ll introduce a supplement to the current budget to pay for more policing. She also wants more funding in the next budget for officer overtime and police-academy classes.

She wants to target open-air drug dealing, and she’s also coordinating with police and the sheriff’s office on a felony warrant sweep. That sounds suspiciously like broken-windows policing.

What prompted this change of heart? Ms. Breed acknowledged Wednesday that “the fact is things have gotten worse over time.”

No kidding. By Dec. 12, San Francisco had 53 homicides this year, up from 48 in all of 2020 and 41 in 2019. Smash-and-grab robbery gangs and shoplifting in the city have become global viral videos, and police data show an 18% increase in larcenies since last year. Homeless camps on the street, drug use, and public disorder are rampant.

Residents are fed up with the lawlessness, and tourists are afraid to visit. San Francisco’s radical district attorney, Chesa Boudin, faces a recall election in June. There’s a lot of ruin in a city, but apparently even the progressives in San Francisco may have had enough.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/refunding-the-san-francisco-police-london-breed-crime-11639696468

Weird that the mayor would think things were getting worse when the experts here know that it totally isn't.

Maybe someone should give her a ring and let her know she can stop worrying and enforcing the laws and all that.

Seriously.

That’s because we’re conversing with people who probably shuttle their kids to St. Albans in new Volvo SUVs, have a few political yard signs at their $1.5m Tenley or AU Park homes, and reaaaaally know they’re on the right side of history. Except that crime is shooting up because coddling criminals isn’t great for vibrant cities. I live in the middle of the city and wish I could vote for a fiscally conservative, socially liberal tough on crime politician: I get Charles Allen. Hooray! Let’s get some more violence interruptors over here! They do so much! I guess it’ll take a few years until all this half baked woke bs works itself out.

A few years? I like the optimism but this region is a long long way from getting serious.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Amazing how much hate the right has for SF when it has one of the lowest murder rates amongst big cities in America. Here is the list for most dangerous cities in 2019 and SF does not appear in the top 65:

https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/murder-map-deadliest-u-s-cities/66/

But Trumpers are conditioned to hate SF. Despite the average citizen being much safer in SF than in Peoria, Shreveport, or Tuscaloosa, Cleveland,Milwaukee, etc.

Murder is much less likely to affect the average citizen as it is often gang relayed, domestic violence, or criminals killing each other. The large number of petty crimes from car jacking, drug use, shoplifting, street violence, homeless rantings, and lack of sanitary environment will make a place inhospitable

I am highly unlikely to be murdered in San Francisco but I am likely to be accosted by drugged out beggars.

I am as liberal as they come but your argument is silly.

Amazing that you think being accosted by beggars is a larger problem than murders. Now that is the NIMBY thinking, rampant among liberals and conservatives, that is a real plague on our society.

This is always a stupid argument, as if the only thing that you need to worry about is being murdered.

No, when people suffer death by a thousand cuts they leave. Constantly having to dodge feces and needles, being harassed everyday for money by junkies/beggars, and having your car constantly broken into gets tiresome. People get fed up and leave and a city's tax base craters when people are sick of the erosion in quality of life.

What's old is new again.

People who never experienced the NYC or DC of the 60's-80s would never get why people left the cities and didn't move back in until things were cleaned up and safer in the 90's and 2000's.

As I get older I see things repeat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Great title to this editorial: "Refunding the San Franciso Police":

As crime has risen, the defund-the-police movement has become a political liability even for Democrats in progressive cities. Exhibit A is San Francisco, where Mayor London Breed appears to have had a law-and-order conversion for the ages.

That’s a welcome statement, but it’s a reversal for Ms. Breed, who championed sizeable cuts to the police budget in the aftermath of George Floyd’s murder. The mayor now says she’ll introduce a supplement to the current budget to pay for more policing. She also wants more funding in the next budget for officer overtime and police-academy classes.

She wants to target open-air drug dealing, and she’s also coordinating with police and the sheriff’s office on a felony warrant sweep. That sounds suspiciously like broken-windows policing.

What prompted this change of heart? Ms. Breed acknowledged Wednesday that “the fact is things have gotten worse over time.”

No kidding. By Dec. 12, San Francisco had 53 homicides this year, up from 48 in all of 2020 and 41 in 2019. Smash-and-grab robbery gangs and shoplifting in the city have become global viral videos, and police data show an 18% increase in larcenies since last year. Homeless camps on the street, drug use, and public disorder are rampant.

Residents are fed up with the lawlessness, and tourists are afraid to visit. San Francisco’s radical district attorney, Chesa Boudin, faces a recall election in June. There’s a lot of ruin in a city, but apparently even the progressives in San Francisco may have had enough.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/refunding-the-san-francisco-police-london-breed-crime-11639696468

Weird that the mayor would think things were getting worse when the experts here know that it totally isn't.

Maybe someone should give her a ring and let her know she can stop worrying and enforcing the laws and all that.

Seriously.

That’s because we’re conversing with people who probably shuttle their kids to St. Albans in new Volvo SUVs, have a few political yard signs at their $1.5m Tenley or AU Park homes, and reaaaaally know they’re on the right side of history. Except that crime is shooting up because coddling criminals isn’t great for vibrant cities. I live in the middle of the city and wish I could vote for a fiscally conservative, socially liberal tough on crime politician: I get Charles Allen. Hooray! Let’s get some more violence interruptors over here! They do so much! I guess it’ll take a few years until all this half baked woke bs works itself out.

A few years? I like the optimism but this region is a long long way from getting serious.

This region? I disagree. I'm a republican and find DC liberals to be much more pragmatic than liberals from other areas.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Great title to this editorial: "Refunding the San Franciso Police":

As crime has risen, the defund-the-police movement has become a political liability even for Democrats in progressive cities. Exhibit A is San Francisco, where Mayor London Breed appears to have had a law-and-order conversion for the ages.

That’s a welcome statement, but it’s a reversal for Ms. Breed, who championed sizeable cuts to the police budget in the aftermath of George Floyd’s murder. The mayor now says she’ll introduce a supplement to the current budget to pay for more policing. She also wants more funding in the next budget for officer overtime and police-academy classes.

She wants to target open-air drug dealing, and she’s also coordinating with police and the sheriff’s office on a felony warrant sweep. That sounds suspiciously like broken-windows policing.

What prompted this change of heart? Ms. Breed acknowledged Wednesday that “the fact is things have gotten worse over time.”

No kidding. By Dec. 12, San Francisco had 53 homicides this year, up from 48 in all of 2020 and 41 in 2019. Smash-and-grab robbery gangs and shoplifting in the city have become global viral videos, and police data show an 18% increase in larcenies since last year. Homeless camps on the street, drug use, and public disorder are rampant.

Residents are fed up with the lawlessness, and tourists are afraid to visit. San Francisco’s radical district attorney, Chesa Boudin, faces a recall election in June. There’s a lot of ruin in a city, but apparently even the progressives in San Francisco may have had enough.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/refunding-the-san-francisco-police-london-breed-crime-11639696468

Weird that the mayor would think things were getting worse when the experts here know that it totally isn't.

Maybe someone should give her a ring and let her know she can stop worrying and enforcing the laws and all that.

Seriously.

That’s because we’re conversing with people who probably shuttle their kids to St. Albans in new Volvo SUVs, have a few political yard signs at their $1.5m Tenley or AU Park homes, and reaaaaally know they’re on the right side of history. Except that crime is shooting up because coddling criminals isn’t great for vibrant cities. I live in the middle of the city and wish I could vote for a fiscally conservative, socially liberal tough on crime politician: I get Charles Allen. Hooray! Let’s get some more violence interruptors over here! They do so much! I guess it’ll take a few years until all this half baked woke bs works itself out.

+1
But make no mistake - voters absolutely will fight back at the polls. People are sick of this idiocy.

+1

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

What a way to live. Won't they have dead batteries?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

I have literally never seen that. I’m not saying it doesn’t happen, but it’s definitely not common.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Great title to this editorial: "Refunding the San Franciso Police":

As crime has risen, the defund-the-police movement has become a political liability even for Democrats in progressive cities. Exhibit A is San Francisco, where Mayor London Breed appears to have had a law-and-order conversion for the ages.

That’s a welcome statement, but it’s a reversal for Ms. Breed, who championed sizeable cuts to the police budget in the aftermath of George Floyd’s murder. The mayor now says she’ll introduce a supplement to the current budget to pay for more policing. She also wants more funding in the next budget for officer overtime and police-academy classes.

She wants to target open-air drug dealing, and she’s also coordinating with police and the sheriff’s office on a felony warrant sweep. That sounds suspiciously like broken-windows policing.

What prompted this change of heart? Ms. Breed acknowledged Wednesday that “the fact is things have gotten worse over time.”

No kidding. By Dec. 12, San Francisco had 53 homicides this year, up from 48 in all of 2020 and 41 in 2019. Smash-and-grab robbery gangs and shoplifting in the city have become global viral videos, and police data show an 18% increase in larcenies since last year. Homeless camps on the street, drug use, and public disorder are rampant.

Residents are fed up with the lawlessness, and tourists are afraid to visit. San Francisco’s radical district attorney, Chesa Boudin, faces a recall election in June. There’s a lot of ruin in a city, but apparently even the progressives in San Francisco may have had enough.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/refunding-the-san-francisco-police-london-breed-crime-11639696468

Weird that the mayor would think things were getting worse when the experts here know that it totally isn't.

Maybe someone should give her a ring and let her know she can stop worrying and enforcing the laws and all that.

Seriously.

That’s because we’re conversing with people who probably shuttle their kids to St. Albans in new Volvo SUVs, have a few political yard signs at their $1.5m Tenley or AU Park homes, and reaaaaally know they’re on the right side of history. Except that crime is shooting up because coddling criminals isn’t great for vibrant cities. I live in the middle of the city and wish I could vote for a fiscally conservative, socially liberal tough on crime politician: I get Charles Allen. Hooray! Let’s get some more violence interruptors over here! They do so much! I guess it’ll take a few years until all this half baked woke bs works itself out.

A few years? I like the optimism but this region is a long long way from getting serious.

We can’t get serious in DC, and just do what NY did in the 80’s and 90’s like stop and frisk and a larger crackdown, which showed tangible results in crime reduction, because of the stark economic divide and the toll incarceration takes based on demographics and arrest percentages and the like in this city. The We are basically implementing softer of crime “holistic” strategies as is part of the trend now. I wonder if the massive spike in murders and crime will even get the city council to reconsider and rethink this current climate of “defund” and reallocation of resources, “or send a social worker instead of the police” type of new age criminal justice movement.

Basically even with crime going up it looks like people in power are not being moved it counter it with real solutions like arrest and prosecution. We’ll see. That and maximum telework is gutting the downtown commercial real estate scene so much they’re pushing a commercial to residential housing movement. I mean I hope we don’t look like Detroit lite in 10 years with high crime and a dilapidated downtown. I know we have other fundamentals here like government to buoy us, but really we seem to want to push out tax paying citizens by basically proudly virtue signaling through progressive lax policy and not keeping people safe in dangerous areas.

[Anonymous]

And, in LA.........................

Just imagine being a victim of one of these juvenile's crimes....