It's NOT "weaksauce" or whataboutism. It's calling the right wing out for peddling a false narrative to smear and blame Dems. Crime is up EVERYWHERE. And it started going up long before Biden even got into office. Start THERE and stop the bullshit about "it's Biden's / the Dems fault." It's the false "it's the Dems fault" rhetoric that is driving the divide. So stop attacking people for calling out that lie. |
DP Dem. you proved the poster’s point when you turn on your own. |
Go back as far as you want, do you think Republicans were the ones who pushed for more leniency when addressing crimes and criminals? |
Amazing that you think being accosted by beggars is a larger problem than murders. Now that is the NIMBY thinking, rampant among liberals and conservatives, that is a real plague on our society. |
DP. Your comprehensions is pretty poor. Or, maybe it is your critical thinking. PP did not say that being accosted is a bigger problem. She is pointing out the the odds of being accosted, car jacked, robbed, or otherwise a victim of crime is much greater for the "average citizen" than being a victim of murder is. And, she is correct. The quality of life in SF is deteriorating. |
This is always a stupid argument, as if the only thing that you need to worry about is being murdered. No, when people suffer death by a thousand cuts they leave. Constantly having to dodge feces and needles, being harassed everyday for money by junkies/beggars, and having your car constantly broken into gets tiresome. People get fed up and leave and a city's tax base craters when people are sick of the erosion in quality of life. |
+1 Happening in many cities as well, and law abiding citizens are fed up with crimes and repeat offenders. |
You are clueless. I’m sorry. There is no other way to say it. Liberals are going to lose so badly in the midterms. |
NO. We will win! The WH, we have both houses. Plus people will be so happy now that a covid is over. The BBB will put money in pockets and a chicken in every pot. You’ll see |
Yep, its totally not anyone's fault for policy choices. It can't possibly effect things at all. |
Rate at which people stopped moving to California surprised researchers: 'Statewide phenomenon'
https://www.foxnews.com/us/massive-drop-people-moving-california-increase-people-leaving |
DP. You're a better person than I am. I wouldn't have those people in my house - ever. |
DP. And yet - once again - let me remind you that when nightly riots were occurring for over a year, Democrats blamed that violence on... Trump. It was "Trump's fault," apparently. Remember that? So using the same "logic," it must be Biden's fault that crime is up. Fair is fair. |
THIS ^^. What is with this petulant denial and whataboutism? Why not simply admit how bad SF has become and the reasons why? The posters who keep arguing that it's somehow a "lie" or made up by "the right-wing" seem to have mental issues. It's been widely reported, across the political spectrum, how bad SF is - along with other Democratic cities. Some of these posters are just not living in reality and I'm embarrassed for them. |
I’m a longtime Californian (leaving, obviously) and the only thing that surprises me about this is that anyone is actually surprised. |