Liberal policing and policies in San Francisco

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Anonymous wrote:Amazing how much hate the right has for SF when it has one of the lowest murder rates amongst big cities in America. Here is the list for most dangerous cities in 2019 and SF does not appear in the top 65:

https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/murder-map-deadliest-u-s-cities/66/

But Trumpers are conditioned to hate SF. Despite the average citizen being much safer in SF than in Peoria, Shreveport, or Tuscaloosa, Cleveland,Milwaukee, etc.



Interesting that you quoted numbers from 2019. It is now 2021 and those numbers have increased considerably.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/sep/28/san-francisco-bay-area-gun-violence-murders-2020

https://www.sfchronicle.com/crime/article/Homicides-are-up-36-in-Bay-Area-s-biggest-16315439.php



2019 is the last year with completed FBI data. Violent crime is on the rise everywhere. Smaller cities like Peoria, Tuscaloosa, Birmingham, and Dayton are waaaaay more dangerous than SF. But republicans don’t care. They just care about bashing SF because it fits some weird political narrative.


Um didn’t you just disprove your own narrative saying it’s gotten worse nationwide? Crime is going up? Why? Are you going to blame it all on Covid woes or are there aaaaany other reasons it might have gotten worse in the last few years? Any ideas?


Crime is up in Republican-run cities as well... but that goes against the RW narrative



I am a Dem bit that is pretty weak sauce. We aren’t going to make progress if people like you don’t stop the what about us. This is not a playground, this is our country and the divide you engender is seriously damaging it.


It's NOT "weaksauce" or whataboutism. It's calling the right wing out for peddling a false narrative to smear and blame Dems. Crime is up EVERYWHERE. And it started going up long before Biden even got into office. Start THERE and stop the bullshit about "it's Biden's / the Dems fault." It's the false "it's the Dems fault" rhetoric that is driving the divide. So stop attacking people for calling out that lie.
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Anonymous wrote:Amazing how much hate the right has for SF when it has one of the lowest murder rates amongst big cities in America. Here is the list for most dangerous cities in 2019 and SF does not appear in the top 65:

https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/murder-map-deadliest-u-s-cities/66/

But Trumpers are conditioned to hate SF. Despite the average citizen being much safer in SF than in Peoria, Shreveport, or Tuscaloosa, Cleveland,Milwaukee, etc.



Interesting that you quoted numbers from 2019. It is now 2021 and those numbers have increased considerably.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/sep/28/san-francisco-bay-area-gun-violence-murders-2020

https://www.sfchronicle.com/crime/article/Homicides-are-up-36-in-Bay-Area-s-biggest-16315439.php



2019 is the last year with completed FBI data. Violent crime is on the rise everywhere. Smaller cities like Peoria, Tuscaloosa, Birmingham, and Dayton are waaaaay more dangerous than SF. But republicans don’t care. They just care about bashing SF because it fits some weird political narrative.


Um didn’t you just disprove your own narrative saying it’s gotten worse nationwide? Crime is going up? Why? Are you going to blame it all on Covid woes or are there aaaaany other reasons it might have gotten worse in the last few years? Any ideas?


Crime is up in Republican-run cities as well... but that goes against the RW narrative



I am a Dem bit that is pretty weak sauce. We aren’t going to make progress if people like you don’t stop the what about us. This is not a playground, this is our country and the divide you engender is seriously damaging it.


It's NOT "weaksauce" or whataboutism. It's calling the right wing out for peddling a false narrative to smear and blame Dems. Crime is up EVERYWHERE. And it started going up long before Biden even got into office. Start THERE and stop the bullshit about "it's Biden's / the Dems fault." It's the false "it's the Dems fault" rhetoric that is driving the divide. So stop attacking people for calling out that lie.


DP Dem. you proved the poster’s point when you turn on your own.
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Anonymous wrote:Amazing how much hate the right has for SF when it has one of the lowest murder rates amongst big cities in America. Here is the list for most dangerous cities in 2019 and SF does not appear in the top 65:

https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/murder-map-deadliest-u-s-cities/66/

But Trumpers are conditioned to hate SF. Despite the average citizen being much safer in SF than in Peoria, Shreveport, or Tuscaloosa, Cleveland,Milwaukee, etc.



Interesting that you quoted numbers from 2019. It is now 2021 and those numbers have increased considerably.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/sep/28/san-francisco-bay-area-gun-violence-murders-2020

https://www.sfchronicle.com/crime/article/Homicides-are-up-36-in-Bay-Area-s-biggest-16315439.php



2019 is the last year with completed FBI data. Violent crime is on the rise everywhere. Smaller cities like Peoria, Tuscaloosa, Birmingham, and Dayton are waaaaay more dangerous than SF. But republicans don’t care. They just care about bashing SF because it fits some weird political narrative.


Um didn’t you just disprove your own narrative saying it’s gotten worse nationwide? Crime is going up? Why? Are you going to blame it all on Covid woes or are there aaaaany other reasons it might have gotten worse in the last few years? Any ideas?


Crime is up in Republican-run cities as well... but that goes against the RW narrative



I am a Dem bit that is pretty weak sauce. We aren’t going to make progress if people like you don’t stop the what about us. This is not a playground, this is our country and the divide you engender is seriously damaging it.


It's NOT "weaksauce" or whataboutism. It's calling the right wing out for peddling a false narrative to smear and blame Dems. Crime is up EVERYWHERE. And it started going up long before Biden even got into office. Start THERE and stop the bullshit about "it's Biden's / the Dems fault." It's the false "it's the Dems fault" rhetoric that is driving the divide. So stop attacking people for calling out that lie.


Go back as far as you want, do you think Republicans were the ones who pushed for more leniency when addressing crimes and criminals?
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Anonymous wrote:Amazing how much hate the right has for SF when it has one of the lowest murder rates amongst big cities in America. Here is the list for most dangerous cities in 2019 and SF does not appear in the top 65:

https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/murder-map-deadliest-u-s-cities/66/

But Trumpers are conditioned to hate SF. Despite the average citizen being much safer in SF than in Peoria, Shreveport, or Tuscaloosa, Cleveland,Milwaukee, etc.



Murder is much less likely to affect the average citizen as it is often gang relayed, domestic violence, or criminals killing each other. The large number of petty crimes from car jacking, drug use, shoplifting, street violence, homeless rantings, and lack of sanitary environment will make a place inhospitable

I am highly unlikely to be murdered in San Francisco but I am likely to be accosted by drugged out beggars.

I am as liberal as they come but your argument is silly.



Amazing that you think being accosted by beggars is a larger problem than murders. Now that is the NIMBY thinking, rampant among liberals and conservatives, that is a real plague on our society.
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Anonymous wrote:Amazing how much hate the right has for SF when it has one of the lowest murder rates amongst big cities in America. Here is the list for most dangerous cities in 2019 and SF does not appear in the top 65:

https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/murder-map-deadliest-u-s-cities/66/

But Trumpers are conditioned to hate SF. Despite the average citizen being much safer in SF than in Peoria, Shreveport, or Tuscaloosa, Cleveland,Milwaukee, etc.



Murder is much less likely to affect the average citizen as it is often gang relayed, domestic violence, or criminals killing each other. The large number of petty crimes from car jacking, drug use, shoplifting, street violence, homeless rantings, and lack of sanitary environment will make a place inhospitable

I am highly unlikely to be murdered in San Francisco but I am likely to be accosted by drugged out beggars.

I am as liberal as they come but your argument is silly.



Amazing that you think being accosted by beggars is a larger problem than murders. Now that is the NIMBY thinking, rampant among liberals and conservatives, that is a real plague on our society.


DP.
Your comprehensions is pretty poor. Or, maybe it is your critical thinking.

PP did not say that being accosted is a bigger problem.
She is pointing out the the odds of being accosted, car jacked, robbed, or otherwise a victim of crime is much greater for the "average citizen" than being a victim of murder is.
And, she is correct.
The quality of life in SF is deteriorating.
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Anonymous wrote:Amazing how much hate the right has for SF when it has one of the lowest murder rates amongst big cities in America. Here is the list for most dangerous cities in 2019 and SF does not appear in the top 65:

https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/murder-map-deadliest-u-s-cities/66/

But Trumpers are conditioned to hate SF. Despite the average citizen being much safer in SF than in Peoria, Shreveport, or Tuscaloosa, Cleveland,Milwaukee, etc.



Murder is much less likely to affect the average citizen as it is often gang relayed, domestic violence, or criminals killing each other. The large number of petty crimes from car jacking, drug use, shoplifting, street violence, homeless rantings, and lack of sanitary environment will make a place inhospitable

I am highly unlikely to be murdered in San Francisco but I am likely to be accosted by drugged out beggars.

I am as liberal as they come but your argument is silly.



Amazing that you think being accosted by beggars is a larger problem than murders. Now that is the NIMBY thinking, rampant among liberals and conservatives, that is a real plague on our society.



This is always a stupid argument, as if the only thing that you need to worry about is being murdered.

No, when people suffer death by a thousand cuts they leave. Constantly having to dodge feces and needles, being harassed everyday for money by junkies/beggars, and having your car constantly broken into gets tiresome. People get fed up and leave and a city's tax base craters when people are sick of the erosion in quality of life.
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Anonymous wrote:Amazing how much hate the right has for SF when it has one of the lowest murder rates amongst big cities in America. Here is the list for most dangerous cities in 2019 and SF does not appear in the top 65:

https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/murder-map-deadliest-u-s-cities/66/

But Trumpers are conditioned to hate SF. Despite the average citizen being much safer in SF than in Peoria, Shreveport, or Tuscaloosa, Cleveland,Milwaukee, etc.



Murder is much less likely to affect the average citizen as it is often gang relayed, domestic violence, or criminals killing each other. The large number of petty crimes from car jacking, drug use, shoplifting, street violence, homeless rantings, and lack of sanitary environment will make a place inhospitable

I am highly unlikely to be murdered in San Francisco but I am likely to be accosted by drugged out beggars.

I am as liberal as they come but your argument is silly.



Amazing that you think being accosted by beggars is a larger problem than murders. Now that is the NIMBY thinking, rampant among liberals and conservatives, that is a real plague on our society.


DP.
Your comprehensions is pretty poor. Or, maybe it is your critical thinking.

PP did not say that being accosted is a bigger problem.
She is pointing out the the odds of being accosted, car jacked, robbed, or otherwise a victim of crime is much greater for the "average citizen" than being a victim of murder is.
And, she is correct.
The quality of life in SF is deteriorating.


+1 Happening in many cities as well, and law abiding citizens are fed up with crimes and repeat offenders.
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Anonymous wrote:Amazing how much hate the right has for SF when it has one of the lowest murder rates amongst big cities in America. Here is the list for most dangerous cities in 2019 and SF does not appear in the top 65:

https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/murder-map-deadliest-u-s-cities/66/

But Trumpers are conditioned to hate SF. Despite the average citizen being much safer in SF than in Peoria, Shreveport, or Tuscaloosa, Cleveland,Milwaukee, etc.



Interesting that you quoted numbers from 2019. It is now 2021 and those numbers have increased considerably.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/sep/28/san-francisco-bay-area-gun-violence-murders-2020

https://www.sfchronicle.com/crime/article/Homicides-are-up-36-in-Bay-Area-s-biggest-16315439.php



2019 is the last year with completed FBI data. Violent crime is on the rise everywhere. Smaller cities like Peoria, Tuscaloosa, Birmingham, and Dayton are waaaaay more dangerous than SF. But republicans don’t care. They just care about bashing SF because it fits some weird political narrative.


Um didn’t you just disprove your own narrative saying it’s gotten worse nationwide? Crime is going up? Why? Are you going to blame it all on Covid woes or are there aaaaany other reasons it might have gotten worse in the last few years? Any ideas?


Crime is up in Republican-run cities as well... but that goes against the RW narrative



I am a Dem bit that is pretty weak sauce. We aren’t going to make progress if people like you don’t stop the what about us. This is not a playground, this is our country and the divide you engender is seriously damaging it.


It's NOT "weaksauce" or whataboutism. It's calling the right wing out for peddling a false narrative to smear and blame Dems. Crime is up EVERYWHERE. And it started going up long before Biden even got into office. Start THERE and stop the bullshit about "it's Biden's / the Dems fault." It's the false "it's the Dems fault" rhetoric that is driving the divide. So stop attacking people for calling out that lie.


You are clueless.

I’m sorry. There is no other way to say it.

Liberals are going to lose so badly in the midterms.
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Anonymous wrote:Amazing how much hate the right has for SF when it has one of the lowest murder rates amongst big cities in America. Here is the list for most dangerous cities in 2019 and SF does not appear in the top 65:

https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/murder-map-deadliest-u-s-cities/66/

But Trumpers are conditioned to hate SF. Despite the average citizen being much safer in SF than in Peoria, Shreveport, or Tuscaloosa, Cleveland,Milwaukee, etc.



Interesting that you quoted numbers from 2019. It is now 2021 and those numbers have increased considerably.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/sep/28/san-francisco-bay-area-gun-violence-murders-2020

https://www.sfchronicle.com/crime/article/Homicides-are-up-36-in-Bay-Area-s-biggest-16315439.php



2019 is the last year with completed FBI data. Violent crime is on the rise everywhere. Smaller cities like Peoria, Tuscaloosa, Birmingham, and Dayton are waaaaay more dangerous than SF. But republicans don’t care. They just care about bashing SF because it fits some weird political narrative.


Um didn’t you just disprove your own narrative saying it’s gotten worse nationwide? Crime is going up? Why? Are you going to blame it all on Covid woes or are there aaaaany other reasons it might have gotten worse in the last few years? Any ideas?


Crime is up in Republican-run cities as well... but that goes against the RW narrative



I am a Dem bit that is pretty weak sauce. We aren’t going to make progress if people like you don’t stop the what about us. This is not a playground, this is our country and the divide you engender is seriously damaging it.


It's NOT "weaksauce" or whataboutism. It's calling the right wing out for peddling a false narrative to smear and blame Dems. Crime is up EVERYWHERE. And it started going up long before Biden even got into office. Start THERE and stop the bullshit about "it's Biden's / the Dems fault." It's the false "it's the Dems fault" rhetoric that is driving the divide. So stop attacking people for calling out that lie.


You are clueless.

I’m sorry. There is no other way to say it.

Liberals are going to lose so badly in the midterms.


NO. We will win!

The WH, we have both houses. Plus people will be so happy now that a covid is over.

The BBB will put money in pockets and a chicken in every pot. You’ll see
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Anonymous wrote:Amazing how much hate the right has for SF when it has one of the lowest murder rates amongst big cities in America. Here is the list for most dangerous cities in 2019 and SF does not appear in the top 65:

https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/murder-map-deadliest-u-s-cities/66/

But Trumpers are conditioned to hate SF. Despite the average citizen being much safer in SF than in Peoria, Shreveport, or Tuscaloosa, Cleveland,Milwaukee, etc.



Interesting that you quoted numbers from 2019. It is now 2021 and those numbers have increased considerably.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/sep/28/san-francisco-bay-area-gun-violence-murders-2020

https://www.sfchronicle.com/crime/article/Homicides-are-up-36-in-Bay-Area-s-biggest-16315439.php



2019 is the last year with completed FBI data. Violent crime is on the rise everywhere. Smaller cities like Peoria, Tuscaloosa, Birmingham, and Dayton are waaaaay more dangerous than SF. But republicans don’t care. They just care about bashing SF because it fits some weird political narrative.


Um didn’t you just disprove your own narrative saying it’s gotten worse nationwide? Crime is going up? Why? Are you going to blame it all on Covid woes or are there aaaaany other reasons it might have gotten worse in the last few years? Any ideas?


Crime is up in Republican-run cities as well... but that goes against the RW narrative



I am a Dem bit that is pretty weak sauce. We aren’t going to make progress if people like you don’t stop the what about us. This is not a playground, this is our country and the divide you engender is seriously damaging it.


It's NOT "weaksauce" or whataboutism. It's calling the right wing out for peddling a false narrative to smear and blame Dems. Crime is up EVERYWHERE. And it started going up long before Biden even got into office. Start THERE and stop the bullshit about "it's Biden's / the Dems fault." It's the false "it's the Dems fault" rhetoric that is driving the divide. So stop attacking people for calling out that lie.


Yep, its totally not anyone's fault for policy choices. It can't possibly effect things at all.
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Rate at which people stopped moving to California surprised researchers: 'Statewide phenomenon'

The number of people moving to California has significantly dropped since the pandemic started last year, while the number of people fleeing the state continues to rise, according to a new study.

"I guess I was a little bit surprised to see that entrances had fallen so much. It wasn't so much that we saw it in a particular area. For me, the surprise was that this was a statewide phenomenon," co-author of the study from California Police Lab, Evan White, told KCRA.

The study found a 38% decrease in people moving to California at the end of September 2021 compared to the end of March 2020. The study found a 12% increase in residents moving out of state.

White noted that while the spiked exodus from the state is notable, the drop in people moving to the state is "the bigger story."

He said the biggest changes were in the San Francisco Bay Area. There was a 45% decrease in entrances from other states to the Bay Area and a 12% increase in residents leaving for other states.


https://www.foxnews.com/us/massive-drop-people-moving-california-increase-people-leaving
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Anonymous wrote:It's true. San Francisco has always stood for the freedoms that the right wing hates.


Well, one of my ancestors was a union organizer in the ports and the City described in his journals was a racist place where only white men could have a hope of getting into the union and women were exploited as what you call sex workers but he called whores. SF got its liberal veneer when post WWII suburbanization cost an exodus and cheap housing that attracted artists, counterculture folk, and men and women challenging their sexual identities.

My parents still live there and are ultra liberal. We have to help them financially because they never worked consistently and have snorted any money they earned. They will be here at Christmas and lecture us for being Trump supporters (we are Democrats) because our children have their own beds, the house is clean, and we allow the children to believe in Santa Claus. My husband has learned to ignore them and take the children for walks and bike rides during their outbursts. I stay there to make sure they don’t do something to the house or themselves.

They are liberal San Francisco to the core, but actually selfish and immature


DP. You're a better person than I am. I wouldn't have those people in my house - ever.
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Anonymous wrote:Amazing how much hate the right has for SF when it has one of the lowest murder rates amongst big cities in America. Here is the list for most dangerous cities in 2019 and SF does not appear in the top 65:

https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/murder-map-deadliest-u-s-cities/66/

But Trumpers are conditioned to hate SF. Despite the average citizen being much safer in SF than in Peoria, Shreveport, or Tuscaloosa, Cleveland,Milwaukee, etc.



Interesting that you quoted numbers from 2019. It is now 2021 and those numbers have increased considerably.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/sep/28/san-francisco-bay-area-gun-violence-murders-2020

https://www.sfchronicle.com/crime/article/Homicides-are-up-36-in-Bay-Area-s-biggest-16315439.php



2019 is the last year with completed FBI data. Violent crime is on the rise everywhere. Smaller cities like Peoria, Tuscaloosa, Birmingham, and Dayton are waaaaay more dangerous than SF. But republicans don’t care. They just care about bashing SF because it fits some weird political narrative.


Um didn’t you just disprove your own narrative saying it’s gotten worse nationwide? Crime is going up? Why? Are you going to blame it all on Covid woes or are there aaaaany other reasons it might have gotten worse in the last few years? Any ideas?


Crime is up in Republican-run cities as well... but that goes against the RW narrative



I am a Dem bit that is pretty weak sauce. We aren’t going to make progress if people like you don’t stop the what about us. This is not a playground, this is our country and the divide you engender is seriously damaging it.


It's NOT "weaksauce" or whataboutism. It's calling the right wing out for peddling a false narrative to smear and blame Dems. Crime is up EVERYWHERE. And it started going up long before Biden even got into office. Start THERE and stop the bullshit about "it's Biden's / the Dems fault." It's the false "it's the Dems fault" rhetoric that is driving the divide. So stop attacking people for calling out that lie.


DP. And yet - once again - let me remind you that when nightly riots were occurring for over a year, Democrats blamed that violence on... Trump. It was "Trump's fault," apparently. Remember that? So using the same "logic," it must be Biden's fault that crime is up. Fair is fair.
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Anonymous wrote:Amazing how much hate the right has for SF when it has one of the lowest murder rates amongst big cities in America. Here is the list for most dangerous cities in 2019 and SF does not appear in the top 65:

https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/murder-map-deadliest-u-s-cities/66/

But Trumpers are conditioned to hate SF. Despite the average citizen being much safer in SF than in Peoria, Shreveport, or Tuscaloosa, Cleveland,Milwaukee, etc.



Interesting that you quoted numbers from 2019. It is now 2021 and those numbers have increased considerably.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/sep/28/san-francisco-bay-area-gun-violence-murders-2020

https://www.sfchronicle.com/crime/article/Homicides-are-up-36-in-Bay-Area-s-biggest-16315439.php



2019 is the last year with completed FBI data. Violent crime is on the rise everywhere. Smaller cities like Peoria, Tuscaloosa, Birmingham, and Dayton are waaaaay more dangerous than SF. But republicans don’t care. They just care about bashing SF because it fits some weird political narrative.


Um didn’t you just disprove your own narrative saying it’s gotten worse nationwide? Crime is going up? Why? Are you going to blame it all on Covid woes or are there aaaaany other reasons it might have gotten worse in the last few years? Any ideas?


Crime is up in Republican-run cities as well... but that goes against the RW narrative



I am a Dem bit that is pretty weak sauce. We aren’t going to make progress if people like you don’t stop the what about us. This is not a playground, this is our country and the divide you engender is seriously damaging it.


It's NOT "weaksauce" or whataboutism. It's calling the right wing out for peddling a false narrative to smear and blame Dems. Crime is up EVERYWHERE. And it started going up long before Biden even got into office. Start THERE and stop the bullshit about "it's Biden's / the Dems fault." It's the false "it's the Dems fault" rhetoric that is driving the divide. So stop attacking people for calling out that lie.


You are clueless.

I’m sorry. There is no other way to say it.

Liberals are going to lose so badly in the midterms.


THIS ^^. What is with this petulant denial and whataboutism? Why not simply admit how bad SF has become and the reasons why? The posters who keep arguing that it's somehow a "lie" or made up by "the right-wing" seem to have mental issues. It's been widely reported, across the political spectrum, how bad SF is - along with other Democratic cities. Some of these posters are just not living in reality and I'm embarrassed for them.
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Anonymous wrote:Rate at which people stopped moving to California surprised researchers: 'Statewide phenomenon'

The number of people moving to California has significantly dropped since the pandemic started last year, while the number of people fleeing the state continues to rise, according to a new study.

"I guess I was a little bit surprised to see that entrances had fallen so much. It wasn't so much that we saw it in a particular area. For me, the surprise was that this was a statewide phenomenon," co-author of the study from California Police Lab, Evan White, told KCRA.

The study found a 38% decrease in people moving to California at the end of September 2021 compared to the end of March 2020. The study found a 12% increase in residents moving out of state.

White noted that while the spiked exodus from the state is notable, the drop in people moving to the state is "the bigger story."

He said the biggest changes were in the San Francisco Bay Area. There was a 45% decrease in entrances from other states to the Bay Area and a 12% increase in residents leaving for other states.


https://www.foxnews.com/us/massive-drop-people-moving-california-increase-people-leaving


I’m a longtime Californian (leaving, obviously) and the only thing that surprises me about this is that anyone is actually surprised.
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