Going no screens on a vacation

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Anonymous wrote:I'm used to talking to my son on the phone just about every day. His wife told us when she and my son were over the other day that they plan on being screen free for the entirety of their vacation the next 2 weeks because they want to spend that time being completely focused on each other as a couple.

My son's wife told us that they will let the families know when they safely land and then after that no phones. Two weeks seems like a long time not to be able to have any contact with my son. Does this seem reasonable to you? Is this my DIL's way of asserting dominance and letting me know I'm calling too much? [twitter]


Is this a joke? You can’t go two weeks without talking to your adult son who is married?? Grow up.


I don't see why everyone is giving OP so much flack and why it makes a difference whether or not her son is married. If people think OP is too enmeshed with her son wouldn't she be too enmeshed regardless of his marital status? So throwing in the fact he is married should be irrelevant in this case.

Also, yes OP is entitled to her feelings and going from daily phone calls to not talking to someone at all for 2 weeks can be very daunting and upsetting.

Her son being married shouldn't mean his mother's feelings should go completely out the window. I feel like on here the minute a man gets married it's all about the wife and her feelings but screw the mother's feelings she should no longer matter and the husband should never take his mother's feelings into consideration.



It’s simple her feelings do not matter here. They just don’t. She needs to shut up and put ip for all of two weeks. After that she can go back to the calls, as her son allows. Wife and couples feelings come first here. Trust the son knew that the *bomb* would be dropped during that convo. He’s probably waiting and bracing himself for her to come to him asking for an exception.


+100000 to the last paragraph. Why are so many posters assuming that DIL/son didn't have this conversation before they went over to MIL's for dinner?.


If they did have that conversation and DH stayed completely silent/ he is both a bad husband and a bad son.


Why would that make him a bad son? Isn't it his responsibility to be a husband before a son?


Two things,

1. First, his responsibility is to be a good human and be thoughtful about all of the people in his life. This is not binary. Being married does not mean that you no longer care about your relationships with anyone else in your life.

2. To be a good and supportive husband would be to actively express support for this "joint" decision and not let his wife carry the full load. He could have spoken up with a sentence fo two about how he thought this was good for them, that he was lookig for the time to disconnect, but that they would of course be reachable in a true emergency, etc.


I'm not saying not to be a good human but backing up your wife in this case and not talking to mom for 2 weeks doesn't make you a bad son. If the husband is pushing back to his wife and saying he can't go no screens because his as far as we know perfectly healthy mom can't go without talking for 2 weeks that's a major problem and shows that husband is too enmeshed with his mom. What's more important here being able to unplug for 2 weeks or catering to mommy's needs. So no mother doesn't get a say at all here. Also if wife can go no contact for 2 weeks and be willing to unplug from her family why can't he?


I did not say that there was anything wrong with him going no contact. What I said was that he SHOULD, as you say, "back up his wife". Did you read my second point?


Why did you put back up his wife in quotes. That's what he should be doing, no?


I put it in quotes because it....was a quote.

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Anonymous wrote:You know who sounds controlling to me? The DIL.

It is weird that the son didn't express agreement or disagreement when his wife made the announcement. I also think the 2-week focus thing is odd. Any relationship that needs 2 weeks of one-on-one focus is a relationship that is floundering. It sounds to me like the DIL is trying to make one last attempt and the way she is doing it is by getting the son away from friends/family and his support system.

The whole thing is setting of warning bells for me.


How is DIL controlling when she wants to take a no screen trip away from her spouse? They are married and plenty of married people want uninterrupted time together? MIL is more controlling by getting this bothered by not being able to talk to her grown married son for 2 weeks. Shows she has major enmeshment issues that she needs to resolve.

DIL probably mentioned is because it came up in convo or she knew her husband doesn't have balls to bring it up himself to his mother.

It's very common to go away with no screens. I ask my husband to do that a lot when we are away.



I disagree with your assessment because of how the husband responded to the announcement. His response was to sit there mutely. That is not the response of someone who supports what his wife is saying; that is the response of someone who is being intimidated into something he doesn't want to do. If I knew him I would start considering whether his wife was an emotional (or other) type of abuser who was trying to control her husband and alienate him from his support group. My response would have been different if he had said "Yeah, Mom, Larla is right. When we go away we'll be on 'no phone' status. I'll talk to you when we get back." He didn't.


My husband was raised that he didn't speak back to his parents. MIL's relationship with FIL isn't great and DH has become sort of her emotional support in life. He is somewhat enmeshed with his mother, who does not respect boundaries and he has an extremely hard time saying no to her even when he wants to and has left it up to me to send messages at times because he simply can't do it. One time he did speak up with an issue he had and he later told me he felt sick to his stomach.

An example would be his mother went to his doctor to find out what happened during a medical appointment for DH. She was upset the doctor wouldn't discuss DH's health with her, she complained to DH about it, DH was upset that she did this and did ask her about it. Of course MIL got upset and told him she is his mother and only looking out for him. DH could not tell her he found it inappropriate, he let it go because he knew the doctors wouldn't give out his medical information. He has gotten better over time though although his main way of handling things with his mother is avoidance.

His mother would say they are close, they aren't, their relationship is what I consider unhealthy, DH cannot be honest and open with his mother. His mother also got upset if we went on holiday and she didn't hear from him every day. She got upset if I showed affection to DH in her presence such as sitting next to him on a lounge, or touching his hand. I can assure you I am not abusive to my DH but have seen him struggle to put any boundaries in place and only with age has DH gotten a weak backbone. It doesn't surprise me in the least that this son sat there mutely. I have seen DH do it a million times with his mother because he can't be honest with her, or speak his mind. His mother uses guilt and manipulation to get what she wants. The wife isn't abusive, its simply that the mother and son don't really have a healthy relationship.
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Anonymous wrote:You know who sounds controlling to me? The DIL.

It is weird that the son didn't express agreement or disagreement when his wife made the announcement. I also think the 2-week focus thing is odd. Any relationship that needs 2 weeks of one-on-one focus is a relationship that is floundering. It sounds to me like the DIL is trying to make one last attempt and the way she is doing it is by getting the son away from friends/family and his support system.

The whole thing is setting of warning bells for me.


How is DIL controlling when she wants to take a no screen trip away from her spouse? They are married and plenty of married people want uninterrupted time together? MIL is more controlling by getting this bothered by not being able to talk to her grown married son for 2 weeks. Shows she has major enmeshment issues that she needs to resolve.

DIL probably mentioned is because it came up in convo or she knew her husband doesn't have balls to bring it up himself to his mother.

It's very common to go away with no screens. I ask my husband to do that a lot when we are away.



I disagree with your assessment because of how the husband responded to the announcement. His response was to sit there mutely. That is not the response of someone who supports what his wife is saying; that is the response of someone who is being intimidated into something he doesn't want to do. If I knew him I would start considering whether his wife was an emotional (or other) type of abuser who was trying to control her husband and alienate him from his support group. My response would have been different if he had said "Yeah, Mom, Larla is right. When we go away we'll be on 'no phone' status. I'll talk to you when we get back." He didn't.


My husband was raised that he didn't speak back to his parents. MIL's relationship with FIL isn't great and DH has become sort of her emotional support in life. He is somewhat enmeshed with his mother, who does not respect boundaries and he has an extremely hard time saying no to her even when he wants to and has left it up to me to send messages at times because he simply can't do it. One time he did speak up with an issue he had and he later told me he felt sick to his stomach.

An example would be his mother went to his doctor to find out what happened during a medical appointment for DH. She was upset the doctor wouldn't discuss DH's health with her, she complained to DH about it, DH was upset that she did this and did ask her about it. Of course MIL got upset and told him she is his mother and only looking out for him. DH could not tell her he found it inappropriate, he let it go because he knew the doctors wouldn't give out his medical information. He has gotten better over time though although his main way of handling things with his mother is avoidance.

His mother would say they are close, they aren't, their relationship is what I consider unhealthy, DH cannot be honest and open with his mother. His mother also got upset if we went on holiday and she didn't hear from him every day. She got upset if I showed affection to DH in her presence such as sitting next to him on a lounge, or touching his hand. I can assure you I am not abusive to my DH but have seen him struggle to put any boundaries in place and only with age has DH gotten a weak backbone. It doesn't surprise me in the least that this son sat there mutely. I have seen DH do it a million times with his mother because he can't be honest with her, or speak his mind. His mother uses guilt and manipulation to get what she wants. The wife isn't abusive, its simply that the mother and son don't really have a healthy relationship.


None of this is even remotely connected to what OP said. Yes, it sounds like your husband has problems relating to women, and it sounds like you're one of them. But none of this is anywhere near something that OP said. Stay in your lane, PP.
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Anonymous wrote:You know who sounds controlling to me? The DIL.

It is weird that the son didn't express agreement or disagreement when his wife made the announcement. I also think the 2-week focus thing is odd. Any relationship that needs 2 weeks of one-on-one focus is a relationship that is floundering. It sounds to me like the DIL is trying to make one last attempt and the way she is doing it is by getting the son away from friends/family and his support system.

The whole thing is setting of warning bells for me.


How is DIL controlling when she wants to take a no screen trip away from her spouse? They are married and plenty of married people want uninterrupted time together? MIL is more controlling by getting this bothered by not being able to talk to her grown married son for 2 weeks. Shows she has major enmeshment issues that she needs to resolve.

DIL probably mentioned is because it came up in convo or she knew her husband doesn't have balls to bring it up himself to his mother.

It's very common to go away with no screens. I ask my husband to do that a lot when we are away.



I disagree with your assessment because of how the husband responded to the announcement. His response was to sit there mutely. That is not the response of someone who supports what his wife is saying; that is the response of someone who is being intimidated into something he doesn't want to do. If I knew him I would start considering whether his wife was an emotional (or other) type of abuser who was trying to control her husband and alienate him from his support group. My response would have been different if he had said "Yeah, Mom, Larla is right. When we go away we'll be on 'no phone' status. I'll talk to you when we get back." He didn't.


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Nope. I think it was more likely that the son was trying to work up the courage to tell his mom to back off, but he chickens out. His wife finally said *she* would do it and the son left her out to dry when he didn’t pipe up in support.


Yeah that's how I read it too. I think it's extremely odd that this other poster went right to the wife being abusive. I mean how many posts do we see on here that shows that the husband doesn't have the balls to stand up to mommy and puts the needs of his wife first? The he hangs his wife to dry?


Yeah, but those posts are usually written by demanding, strident narcissists so I'm not really surprised about their posts. OP's post sounds different. She sounds over the edge of narcissism and well into controlling and isolating. Like her husband can't even call or text anyone during the two week trip? I love my husband unconditionally and we've been married a long time but if he told me that I'd tell him to pound sand.
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You are smothering him and their relationship!
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Anonymous wrote:You know who sounds controlling to me? The DIL.

It is weird that the son didn't express agreement or disagreement when his wife made the announcement. I also think the 2-week focus thing is odd. Any relationship that needs 2 weeks of one-on-one focus is a relationship that is floundering. It sounds to me like the DIL is trying to make one last attempt and the way she is doing it is by getting the son away from friends/family and his support system.

The whole thing is setting of warning bells for me.


How is DIL controlling when she wants to take a no screen trip away from her spouse? They are married and plenty of married people want uninterrupted time together? MIL is more controlling by getting this bothered by not being able to talk to her grown married son for 2 weeks. Shows she has major enmeshment issues that she needs to resolve.

DIL probably mentioned is because it came up in convo or she knew her husband doesn't have balls to bring it up himself to his mother.

It's very common to go away with no screens. I ask my husband to do that a lot when we are away.



I disagree with your assessment because of how the husband responded to the announcement. His response was to sit there mutely. That is not the response of someone who supports what his wife is saying; that is the response of someone who is being intimidated into something he doesn't want to do. If I knew him I would start considering whether his wife was an emotional (or other) type of abuser who was trying to control her husband and alienate him from his support group. My response would have been different if he had said "Yeah, Mom, Larla is right. When we go away we'll be on 'no phone' status. I'll talk to you when we get back." He didn't.


My husband was raised that he didn't speak back to his parents. MIL's relationship with FIL isn't great and DH has become sort of her emotional support in life. He is somewhat enmeshed with his mother, who does not respect boundaries and he has an extremely hard time saying no to her even when he wants to and has left it up to me to send messages at times because he simply can't do it. One time he did speak up with an issue he had and he later told me he felt sick to his stomach.

An example would be his mother went to his doctor to find out what happened during a medical appointment for DH. She was upset the doctor wouldn't discuss DH's health with her, she complained to DH about it, DH was upset that she did this and did ask her about it. Of course MIL got upset and told him she is his mother and only looking out for him. DH could not tell her he found it inappropriate, he let it go because he knew the doctors wouldn't give out his medical information. He has gotten better over time though although his main way of handling things with his mother is avoidance.

His mother would say they are close, they aren't, their relationship is what I consider unhealthy, DH cannot be honest and open with his mother. His mother also got upset if we went on holiday and she didn't hear from him every day. She got upset if I showed affection to DH in her presence such as sitting next to him on a lounge, or touching his hand. I can assure you I am not abusive to my DH but have seen him struggle to put any boundaries in place and only with age has DH gotten a weak backbone. It doesn't surprise me in the least that this son sat there mutely. I have seen DH do it a million times with his mother because he can't be honest with her, or speak his mind. His mother uses guilt and manipulation to get what she wants. The wife isn't abusive, its simply that the mother and son don't really have a healthy relationship.


None of this is even remotely connected to what OP said. Yes, it sounds like your husband has problems relating to women, and it sounds like you're one of them. But none of this is anywhere near something that OP said. Stay in your lane, PP.


I was replying to the PP who said the wife may be emotional abusive because the son sat there mutely and didn't speak up. I was explaining that this does happen. So perhaps you should stay in your lane.

Oh by the way, my husband is honest with me and talks with me, he does not have a problem relating to all women. Love the way you make an assumption about how my own DH who you don't even know relates to me. The very fact I know how he feels about all these issues means he has talked to me honestly, something he cannot do with his mother.

People are having such a hard time understanding why the message didn't come from the son. What I wrote is possibly why.
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Anonymous wrote:You know who sounds controlling to me? The DIL.

It is weird that the son didn't express agreement or disagreement when his wife made the announcement. I also think the 2-week focus thing is odd. Any relationship that needs 2 weeks of one-on-one focus is a relationship that is floundering. It sounds to me like the DIL is trying to make one last attempt and the way she is doing it is by getting the son away from friends/family and his support system.

The whole thing is setting of warning bells for me.


How is DIL controlling when she wants to take a no screen trip away from her spouse? They are married and plenty of married people want uninterrupted time together? MIL is more controlling by getting this bothered by not being able to talk to her grown married son for 2 weeks. Shows she has major enmeshment issues that she needs to resolve.

DIL probably mentioned is because it came up in convo or she knew her husband doesn't have balls to bring it up himself to his mother.

It's very common to go away with no screens. I ask my husband to do that a lot when we are away.



I disagree with your assessment because of how the husband responded to the announcement. His response was to sit there mutely. That is not the response of someone who supports what his wife is saying; that is the response of someone who is being intimidated into something he doesn't want to do. If I knew him I would start considering whether his wife was an emotional (or other) type of abuser who was trying to control her husband and alienate him from his support group. My response would have been different if he had said "Yeah, Mom, Larla is right. When we go away we'll be on 'no phone' status. I'll talk to you when we get back." He didn't.


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Nope. I think it was more likely that the son was trying to work up the courage to tell his mom to back off, but he chickens out. His wife finally said *she* would do it and the son left her out to dry when he didn’t pipe up in support.


Yeah that's how I read it too. I think it's extremely odd that this other poster went right to the wife being abusive. I mean how many posts do we see on here that shows that the husband doesn't have the balls to stand up to mommy and puts the needs of his wife first? The he hangs his wife to dry?


Yeah, but those posts are usually written by demanding, strident narcissists so I'm not really surprised about their posts. OP's post sounds different. She sounds over the edge of narcissism and well into controlling and isolating. Like her husband can't even call or text anyone during the two week trip? I love my husband unconditionally and we've been married a long time but if he told me that I'd tell him to pound sand.


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That is totally nuts and controlling. The problem is that people are hung up on OP who does sound weird, but let's not lose sight if the forest for the trees here.
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Have you explored if you may have anxiety or a personality disorder?
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Anonymous wrote:You know who sounds controlling to me? The DIL.

It is weird that the son didn't express agreement or disagreement when his wife made the announcement. I also think the 2-week focus thing is odd. Any relationship that needs 2 weeks of one-on-one focus is a relationship that is floundering. It sounds to me like the DIL is trying to make one last attempt and the way she is doing it is by getting the son away from friends/family and his support system.

The whole thing is setting of warning bells for me.


How is DIL controlling when she wants to take a no screen trip away from her spouse? They are married and plenty of married people want uninterrupted time together? MIL is more controlling by getting this bothered by not being able to talk to her grown married son for 2 weeks. Shows she has major enmeshment issues that she needs to resolve.

DIL probably mentioned is because it came up in convo or she knew her husband doesn't have balls to bring it up himself to his mother.

It's very common to go away with no screens. I ask my husband to do that a lot when we are away.



I disagree with your assessment because of how the husband responded to the announcement. His response was to sit there mutely. That is not the response of someone who supports what his wife is saying; that is the response of someone who is being intimidated into something he doesn't want to do. If I knew him I would start considering whether his wife was an emotional (or other) type of abuser who was trying to control her husband and alienate him from his support group. My response would have been different if he had said "Yeah, Mom, Larla is right. When we go away we'll be on 'no phone' status. I'll talk to you when we get back." He didn't.


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Nope. I think it was more likely that the son was trying to work up the courage to tell his mom to back off, but he chickens out. His wife finally said *she* would do it and the son left her out to dry when he didn’t pipe up in support.


Yeah that's how I read it too. I think it's extremely odd that this other poster went right to the wife being abusive. I mean how many posts do we see on here that shows that the husband doesn't have the balls to stand up to mommy and puts the needs of his wife first? The he hangs his wife to dry?


Yeah, but those posts are usually written by demanding, strident narcissists so I'm not really surprised about their posts. OP's post sounds different. She sounds over the edge of narcissism and well into controlling and isolating. Like her husband can't even call or text anyone during the two week trip? I love my husband unconditionally and we've been married a long time but if he told me that I'd tell him to pound sand.


You've just made an assumption that the son doesn't want to do this and its all DIL. OP said that both son and DIL were there when it was mentioned. I would think that both son and DIL have decided on this together. A lot of couples are doing this now, just because you aren't doesn't mean it isn't a thing. People are different and being different doesn't mean controlling and isolating.

It is for 2 weeks. Not a lifetime, not forever, 2 weeks.
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This is just the start. They are showing OP she can survive the 2 weeks without contact. They will then look at slowing down the daily calls upon return.
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Anonymous wrote:This is just the start. They are showing OP she can survive the 2 weeks without contact. They will then look at slowing down the daily calls upon return.


Yeah, this is a reasonable theory.

I am one of the PP's that has been arguing that the son should talk directly to the mother. And it very well could be that he decided (likely with a lot of prompting from the wife) that he needs to pull back on that level of communication. My point though is that the right thing to do in that case is have an honest conversation with the mother/OP about that desire. This is his mother, not a random acquaintance. "Ghosting" is not a good option. He needs to explain what he is doing and why, and then follow through. Not to do so is cowardly and cruel.
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With the daily contact who initiates the calls? How frequently do you see each other in person?
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Anonymous wrote:You know who sounds controlling to me? The DIL.

It is weird that the son didn't express agreement or disagreement when his wife made the announcement. I also think the 2-week focus thing is odd. Any relationship that needs 2 weeks of one-on-one focus is a relationship that is floundering. It sounds to me like the DIL is trying to make one last attempt and the way she is doing it is by getting the son away from friends/family and his support system.

The whole thing is setting of warning bells for me.


How is DIL controlling when she wants to take a no screen trip away from her spouse? They are married and plenty of married people want uninterrupted time together? MIL is more controlling by getting this bothered by not being able to talk to her grown married son for 2 weeks. Shows she has major enmeshment issues that she needs to resolve.

DIL probably mentioned is because it came up in convo or she knew her husband doesn't have balls to bring it up himself to his mother.

It's very common to go away with no screens. I ask my husband to do that a lot when we are away.



I disagree with your assessment because of how the husband responded to the announcement. His response was to sit there mutely. That is not the response of someone who supports what his wife is saying; that is the response of someone who is being intimidated into something he doesn't want to do. If I knew him I would start considering whether his wife was an emotional (or other) type of abuser who was trying to control her husband and alienate him from his support group. My response would have been different if he had said "Yeah, Mom, Larla is right. When we go away we'll be on 'no phone' status. I'll talk to you when we get back." He didn't.


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Nope. I think it was more likely that the son was trying to work up the courage to tell his mom to back off, but he chickens out. His wife finally said *she* would do it and the son left her out to dry when he didn’t pipe up in support.


Yeah that's how I read it too. I think it's extremely odd that this other poster went right to the wife being abusive. I mean how many posts do we see on here that shows that the husband doesn't have the balls to stand up to mommy and puts the needs of his wife first? The he hangs his wife to dry?


Yeah, but those posts are usually written by demanding, strident narcissists so I'm not really surprised about their posts. OP's post sounds different. She sounds over the edge of narcissism and well into controlling and isolating. Like her husband can't even call or text anyone during the two week trip? I love my husband unconditionally and we've been married a long time but if he told me that I'd tell him to pound sand.


You've just made an assumption that the son doesn't want to do this and its all DIL. OP said that both son and DIL were there when it was mentioned. I would think that both son and DIL have decided on this together. A lot of couples are doing this now, just because you aren't doesn't mean it isn't a thing. People are different and being different doesn't mean controlling and isolating.

It is for 2 weeks. Not a lifetime, not forever, 2 weeks.


OP also said her son didn't say a word. That's weird. I agree that the DIL sounds like she is trying to isolate OP's son. I would be concerned. I also cannot imagine anyone telling me that I wouldn't be using my phone or electronics for 2 weeks so that I could focus on the other person. That smacks of controlling out the wazoo.
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One of the things that surprises me most about this thread is how few people have frequent contact with their parents. I talk to my mom or dad every day - either I call them or they call me. I talk to two of my sisters every day or so. I talk to my best friend every day and, this will blow your mind, sometimes more than once in a day. Who are all of you people that you don't talk to your friends and family? I couldn't live that way. They aren't all long calls but we all check in - a funny story OR hey, how ya doing OR did you read about xyz in the paper OR what's up with the trash trucks today? Sure we text but we call more. And before you go blasting that you're introverts, I'm a 20 on the M-B...on the I side.
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Anonymous wrote:One of the things that surprises me most about this thread is how few people have frequent contact with their parents. I talk to my mom or dad every day - either I call them or they call me. I talk to two of my sisters every day or so. I talk to my best friend every day and, this will blow your mind, sometimes more than once in a day. Who are all of you people that you don't talk to your friends and family? I couldn't live that way. They aren't all long calls but we all check in - a funny story OR hey, how ya doing OR did you read about xyz in the paper OR what's up with the trash trucks today? Sure we text but we call more. And before you go blasting that you're introverts, I'm a 20 on the M-B...on the I side.


Great but if you went on vacation and wanted to unwind and not be in contact, could you? Not would you want to but could you? If the answer is yes, then this is healthy. If you or someone in your family/friend circle got upset with you for wanting to do that, what does that say about them?

If one of your family went on holiday and said they were having a screen free holiday would you get upset with them and say you want to be contacted or would you wish them well on their vacation and you'll catch up with them when they got back. Not would you or would your family do this but would you get upset if you were told no.

That's what this thread is about. Its about someone wanting something and another person wanting something else and wanting things their own way rather than respecting the other person. This isn't even something ongoing, its simply for two weeks.

Its great that you may never want to do this but if someone else did or needed that would you respect them and their wish or would you demand to be contacted regardless.
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