And I will repeat myself for the 1000th time. This is harassment. You are in denial, and you are actively minimizing harassment. It doesnt need to be physical to be harassment. It doesnt need to be aggressive. Please try google if you are having this much difficulty understanding basic concepts. |
Right, the 52 year old man trying to lure your teen daughter into giving up her phone number probably wants it for TOTALLY legit reasons. |
A) it is not just one tip B) "oh it won't hurt her financial future" is an insane standard to judge NY whether harassment is acceptable. When I had men yell gross things at me when I was 11 it didn't harm my financial future, didn't make it less creepy. |
And just because we disagree doesn't mean you're right. I'm done. Have a good day. You've officially exhausted me. |
And you'd be wrong. Because it is harassment. It doesnt need to be physical or aggressive. |
I'm the one who knows the definition, so by default I'm right lol. You are arguing a words definition based on your feelings. Not how it works bud. |
She's 17. She "guessed" they were in their 20s. Nobody's 52. You're projecting your own experience. |
You can repeat it a million times but you’re still going to be wrong. |
This. Back in the day, this was not unusual. I never called one, but I also never felt uncomfortable with that approach. Another server did reach out to a customer who did this. He had been a perfect gentleman during his meal, they bantered about baseball, and he left a note asking if she would like to go to the local minor-league team game with him on a certain date. Relevant, specific, and easy to ignore if she wanted. I remember it because it was SO different from the usual. "Hey you uhhh wanna go out sometime?" or just a phone number on a receipt. It was a master class in how to signal interest without being creepy or threatening. |
Oh, never mind, the 28 year old man with zip ties in his backpocket probably wants your teen daughters number for completely non-sexual reasons! Grow up! |
Nope. Try again. It's 100% harassment. Your denial of reality does not change facts. |
One of us is being rational, or at least trying to be. The other is screaming into the internet. Which of us has "feelings" about this? |
Yes! So many creepy ass dudes defending harassment when there are totally normal ways of asking someone out. Its clear they have major issues with women. |
Screaming? Hardly. No need to get emotional about someone pointing out what is and is not harassment. In this case, it is. I'm sure any time you speak with a woman they claim harassment too, but that doesnt change that this is absolutely the definition of harassment. Move on if you want to keep denying factual definitions, but you won't "win" anything by lying to yourself here. |
I'm not sure if it's one person trying to justify this or multiple creepy men, but you really need to understand: this is harassment. Idk why y'all so sensitive to it (actually, I do), but it doesnt matter. This is textbook harassment and OPs daughter doesnt welcome it. If you cant interact with women without harassing them you need to stay the F home. |