Hurricane Ian's effect on Florida voting

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Good he should be gone. Maybe he can go join a militia and storm the Capitol. Vaccine are require for the CG and Military because it is part of the units readiness.

Agree. I can promise you one thing the reason this guy isn’t getting vaccinated is his alliance to MAGA. That does not count for a adequate exemption.

Maybe he does not think the vaccine is effective? Or does no believe you should risk putting something potentially dangerous into his body that is not effective? I know some who work for the FDA who agree with him. They had to redefine what a vaccine even is in order to call these shots vaccines.

Who f’ing cares. Just because some losers think they know more vs science does not make it true. This is the same reason no one evacuated. Dan knows a friend who said the hurricane is fake and no way the water would get that high. Dan works as an Uber driver.

X a million. This business of Facebook Expertise/Internet Expertise and "but I know a guy . .. " foundation for opinions is out of control. And people who do it look like the morons they are.

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Anonymous wrote:As I said earlier, from experience with flood insurance, evacuations, and disaster mitigation efforts, people are stupid about flood risk. If a place hasn’t flooded in recent memory, they think it isn’t high risk, even when the water is literally right outside their door.

Elderly people especially have to be forced to evacuate by local authorities and family members. They never want to evacuate because it is inconvenient and uncomfortable but they are likely to die horrible deaths if there is a direct hit from a major hurricane. There are also deaths after a hurricane of impaired people who survive the storm but not the power outage. It happed a few years ago in a nursing home in Florida. Already one old couple died in Florida because they had no power for their oxygen.

If I were in charge, I would send deputies to places like Sanibel and Captiva to go door to door and anyone who insisted on staying would be asked for their next of kin and handed a Sharpie to write their name and Social Security number on their leg so we could ID their body.

What if instead of doing that you went door to door and offered a ride to a safe shelter. Many of these people don't leave because it's very hard for them to do it.

Of course they would be offered rides to a shelter. That is never the problem. They don’t want to go to a shelter.

What do you mean that is NEVER the problem - what sort of bubble do you live in that you think that's not the problem?!

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Anonymous wrote:As I said earlier, from experience with flood insurance, evacuations, and disaster mitigation efforts, people are stupid about flood risk. If a place hasn’t flooded in recent memory, they think it isn’t high risk, even when the water is literally right outside their door.

Elderly people especially have to be forced to evacuate by local authorities and family members. They never want to evacuate because it is inconvenient and uncomfortable but they are likely to die horrible deaths if there is a direct hit from a major hurricane. There are also deaths after a hurricane of impaired people who survive the storm but not the power outage. It happed a few years ago in a nursing home in Florida. Already one old couple died in Florida because they had no power for their oxygen.

If I were in charge, I would send deputies to places like Sanibel and Captiva to go door to door and anyone who insisted on staying would be asked for their next of kin and handed a Sharpie to write their name and Social Security number on their leg so we could ID their body.

What if instead of doing that you went door to door and offered a ride to a safe shelter. Many of these people don't leave because it's very hard for them to do it.

Of course they would be offered rides to a shelter. That is never the problem. They don’t want to go to a shelter.

What do you mean that is NEVER the problem - what sort of bubble do you live in that you think that's not the problem?!

Never is too strong. Often is true. They don't want to leave their homes.

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Anonymous wrote:As I said earlier, from experience with flood insurance, evacuations, and disaster mitigation efforts, people are stupid about flood risk. If a place hasn’t flooded in recent memory, they think it isn’t high risk, even when the water is literally right outside their door.

Elderly people especially have to be forced to evacuate by local authorities and family members. They never want to evacuate because it is inconvenient and uncomfortable but they are likely to die horrible deaths if there is a direct hit from a major hurricane. There are also deaths after a hurricane of impaired people who survive the storm but not the power outage. It happed a few years ago in a nursing home in Florida. Already one old couple died in Florida because they had no power for their oxygen.

If I were in charge, I would send deputies to places like Sanibel and Captiva to go door to door and anyone who insisted on staying would be asked for their next of kin and handed a Sharpie to write their name and Social Security number on their leg so we could ID their body.

What if instead of doing that you went door to door and offered a ride to a safe shelter. Many of these people don't leave because it's very hard for them to do it.

Of course they would be offered rides to a shelter. That is never the problem. They don’t want to go to a shelter.

What do you mean that is NEVER the problem - what sort of bubble do you live in that you think that's not the problem?!

No place has more shelters than Florida, most of them 75% FEMA funded. There are shelters. Transportation is arranged for people in mandatory evacuation areas, either from government or people or groups in the community. People who stay are people do not want to go to a shelter.

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Fort Myers News Press article from last Tuesday. Ten Lee County shelters open, large capacity, pets welcome at most, no one will be turned away, call local government or United Way for help, etc. Not in this article, but the county also has a special needs shelter for people with medical needs, and a pet shelter. FEMA and Florida have been funding this capacity for three decades since Andrew. It is not hard to find or get to a shelter in Florida.

Hurricane Ian shelters are open in Lee County, here's where to go in Fort Myers, Bonita Springs and Estero
https://www.news-press.com/story/news/2022/09/27/hurricane-ian-lee-county-florida-shelters-open-heres-where-go/10439344002/

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It's not like this hurricane just snuck up on Florida's West Coast. People could see that it was coming for many days. And it was BIG.

It's also not like people in Florida had no experience with hurricanes. They know that hurricanes come. That they can do damage -- especially Cat 4 hurricanes. They are not imbeciles and they don't need to be told to evacuate when the hurricane is coming very close.

I struggle to find anything, anything at all nice to say about Ron Disantis... but I shrug at the news media trying to pin blame on the state of Florida for not sounding the "evacuation" alarm. That's just trying to create d-r-a-m-a.

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Anonymous wrote:It's not like this hurricane just snuck up on Florida's West Coast. People could see that it was coming for many days. And it was BIG.

It's also not like people in Florida had no experience with hurricanes. They know that hurricanes come. That they can do damage -- especially Cat 4 hurricanes. They are not imbeciles and they don't need to be told to evacuate when the hurricane is coming very close.

I struggle to find anything, anything at all nice to say about Ron Disantis... but I shrug at the news media trying to pin blame on the state of Florida for not sounding the "evacuation" alarm. That's just trying to create d-r-a-m-a.

+1 exactly

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Anonymous wrote:It's not like this hurricane just snuck up on Florida's West Coast. People could see that it was coming for many days. And it was BIG.

It's also not like people in Florida had no experience with hurricanes. They know that hurricanes come. That they can do damage -- especially Cat 4 hurricanes. They are not imbeciles and they don't need to be told to evacuate when the hurricane is coming very close.

I struggle to find anything, anything at all nice to say about Ron Disantis... but I shrug at the news media trying to pin blame on the state of Florida for not sounding the "evacuation" alarm. That's just trying to create d-r-a-m-a.

Sure its his state. He wants the credit for doing a great job but he failed.

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Anonymous wrote:It's not like this hurricane just snuck up on Florida's West Coast. People could see that it was coming for many days. And it was BIG.

It's also not like people in Florida had no experience with hurricanes. They know that hurricanes come. That they can do damage -- especially Cat 4 hurricanes. They are not imbeciles and they don't need to be told to evacuate when the hurricane is coming very close.

I struggle to find anything, anything at all nice to say about Ron Disantis... but I shrug at the news media trying to pin blame on the state of Florida for not sounding the "evacuation" alarm. That's just trying to create d-r-a-m-a.

Sure its his state. He wants the credit for doing a great job but he failed.

DeSantis seems to care more about the welfare of his people than getting "credit for doing a great job."

The truth is.... his residents ARE giving him credit for doing a great job.

But, do go off........

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Anonymous wrote:It's not like this hurricane just snuck up on Florida's West Coast. People could see that it was coming for many days. And it was BIG.

It's also not like people in Florida had no experience with hurricanes. They know that hurricanes come. That they can do damage -- especially Cat 4 hurricanes. They are not imbeciles and they don't need to be told to evacuate when the hurricane is coming very close.

I struggle to find anything, anything at all nice to say about Ron Disantis... but I shrug at the news media trying to pin blame on the state of Florida for not sounding the "evacuation" alarm. That's just trying to create d-r-a-m-a.

Sure its his state. He wants the credit for doing a great job but he failed.

Whether a person likes the guy or not, he grew up in Florida in a working class family. Didnt come from privilege but smart and did well. He knows a thong or two about hurricanes and the people living in Florida. A bunch of outsiders yapping about his supposed failures doesn't change the facts. There was information about this nearly Category 5 hurricane almost 24/7. Plenty of time for people to leave.

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Anonymous wrote:It's not like this hurricane just snuck up on Florida's West Coast. People could see that it was coming for many days. And it was BIG.

It's also not like people in Florida had no experience with hurricanes. They know that hurricanes come. That they can do damage -- especially Cat 4 hurricanes. They are not imbeciles and they don't need to be told to evacuate when the hurricane is coming very close.

I struggle to find anything, anything at all nice to say about Ron Disantis... but I shrug at the news media trying to pin blame on the state of Florida for not sounding the "evacuation" alarm. That's just trying to create d-r-a-m-a.

Eh. I struggle to care about Ron getting blamed for something when the corporate media has spent the better part of two years gnashing their teeth and rending their garments over Biden sneezing inelegantly or whatever crap they’ve complained incessantly about. But if people didn’t leave in large enough numbers, it is just possible that he and his government - and the buck stops there, remember - failed in getting word out.

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I registered as a republican in central Florida today. I’m tired of the loons the republicans keep nominating.

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Anonymous wrote:It's not like this hurricane just snuck up on Florida's West Coast. People could see that it was coming for many days. And it was BIG.

It's also not like people in Florida had no experience with hurricanes. They know that hurricanes come. That they can do damage -- especially Cat 4 hurricanes. They are not imbeciles and they don't need to be told to evacuate when the hurricane is coming very close.

I struggle to find anything, anything at all nice to say about Ron Disantis... but I shrug at the news media trying to pin blame on the state of Florida for not sounding the "evacuation" alarm. That's just trying to create d-r-a-m-a.

Sure its his state. He wants the credit for doing a great job but he failed.

DeSantis seems to care more about the welfare of his people than getting "credit for doing a great job."

The truth is.... his residents ARE giving him credit for doing a great job.

But, do go off........

Lol that’s a good one! Been watching Fox again?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:It's not like this hurricane just snuck up on Florida's West Coast. People could see that it was coming for many days. And it was BIG.

It's also not like people in Florida had no experience with hurricanes. They know that hurricanes come. That they can do damage -- especially Cat 4 hurricanes. They are not imbeciles and they don't need to be told to evacuate when the hurricane is coming very close.

I struggle to find anything, anything at all nice to say about Ron Disantis... but I shrug at the news media trying to pin blame on the state of Florida for not sounding the "evacuation" alarm. That's just trying to create d-r-a-m-a.

Sure its his state. He wants the credit for doing a great job but he failed.

DeSantis seems to care more about the welfare of his people than getting "credit for doing a great job."

The truth is.... his residents ARE giving him credit for doing a great job.

But, do go off........

Lol that’s a good one! Been watching Fox again?

Lame lame lame

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Heckuva job

Usually, when people notice that counties ALL AROUND THEM are evacuating, they will also make sure they evacuate. If you're incredibly stupid and a perpetual victim, then you'll sit there until someone tells you what to do. I see the woman above falls into the latter category.

+1 yep