Hurricane Ian's effect on Florida voting

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Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis said in an interview this week that the national media wanted Hurricane Ian to hit Tampa Bay, broadly claiming that coverage of the deadly storm was motivated by a "political agenda."


https://www.axios.com/2022/10/05/ron-desantis-media-hurricane-ian-tampa

Must not be going well for him. MAGA will love this partisanship.


You can’t be serious. Look at all the unhinged posts by LWNJs claiming he “didn’t do enough.” You people are actually using this hurricane to try and score political points and it’s beyond pathetic. He did a great job considering everything - and he certainly prepared the state for what was going to hit them - well in advance, in fact. Those who chose to ignore the MANY warnings have only themselves to blame.


+ a million
It’s pretty comical watching these completely partisan twits twist themselves into pretzels to try and blame DeSantis for… something…
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Anonymous wrote:It could take a month for people in Ft Myers to get power back

https://news.yahoo.com/florida-lee-county-expects-power-220710391.html

Still no good answers about why local and state officials delayed issuing an evacuation order


Maybe this will help you with those answers.......



No, it doesn't. BTW get better sources. Xtina got her taxpayer funded job because she was good at being an online troll. She's never been there to actually provide information to the public.





If it doesn't help you then I can only assume you are not capable of reading......

"Mon, 2pm Lee County was still only under a Tropical Storm Watch. At 5:29pm Lee County went from TS Watch to TS Warning. NWS focus was still Tampa area. It wasn’t until 5:29am Tue that Lee went from TS Warning to Hurricane Warning."





They were in the cone of uncertainty for a couple of days before the storm actually hit. Their actual storm preparedness manual said to evacuate people days before, they just didn't follow it.


The path of the hurricane, even when it was predicted to landfall closer to Tampa, always put Fort Myers, Sanibel and the rest of Lee County, under a Storm Surge Watch/Warning. There was always going to be a dangerous storm surge, and someone dropped the ball in communicating to people what that meant. DeSantis, by saying stuff like "it's people's choice if they want to stay" didn't help. No sense of urgency was communicated to these people.

Also, DeSantis and his GOP friends constant denigration of experts and scientific opinion doesn't help in these situations. The NHC did a great job predicting the path and strength of Ian - Florida officials didn't do all they could have to get people out.


That is just not true. The had a storm surge watch up until Monday evening when it was upgraded to a storm surge warning.
Sorry to disappoint you that storms - including hurricanes - are unpredictable. This is not an exact science.
And, please cite when he denigrated the NHC.


The watch to warning switch is just when it got closer and the threat is in the next 24 hours. The PP is 100% correct. Even if it went to Tampa, hurricane-force winds would have been pushing water into Fort Myers, Sanibel, Captiva, Cape Coral. They would have got at least what Naples got.


And all intelligent adult Floridians knew it and took appropriate action to leave. Do your friends and family members need to specifically be told to leave when 140+ winds are heading to the coast?


Exactly. I live nowhere near Florida and knew a week before Ian hit how serious it would be. As did the entire nation. DeSantis and his team absolutely did all they could to get people out, including instituting mandatory evacuations - which some chose not to follow. Not sure why anyone else is being blamed for their poor decisions.


You might want to look up the meaning of "mandatory."

This is how to communicate the seriousness of a hurricane and its surge, and enforce a mandatory evacuation

https://thehill.com/homenews/348030-texas-mayor-tells-those-not-evacuating-to-write-names-social-security-numbers-on/

A Texas mayor is reportedly advising his residents who are not evacuating before Hurricane Harvey sweeps the state’s coastline to write identifying information on their bodies.

Rockport Mayor Pro Tempore Patrick Rios said Friday, ahead of the massive hurricane’s expected landfall, that residents should either evacuate or make sure their remains can be identified.

“We’re suggesting if people are going to stay here, mark their arm with a Sharpie pen with their name and Social Security number,” Rios said at a morning press conference, as reported by ABC News.



+1 this is how you communicate urgency - not little Ronnie D's "people can leave if they want to or not, whatever, freedom"

Also you have to do it with more than one day's notice. I don't think most people here understand the geography of Florida - how long it takes to get out of the areas that were hardest hit, especially once the highway has become a parking lot due to everyone trying to leave at once, and with gas almost impossible to get. So you can only get so far as your one tank gets you. That's what happens when you don't have enough notice - and that's why people stay.


I'm a Floridian living in Georgia now. I have family in Ft Myers, Tampa, and Jacksonville. They all knew what was coming and steps to take. Not sure what kind of people only heard about the approaching Category 4 hurricane with 140+ winds with one day's notice?/


The posters here are, for the most part, incredibly partisan and will find anything they can to criticize DeSantis.
Many have probably never even been to Florida or know nothing about the state and the people who live there.
Don't listen to them. They seem to believe if they slam him enough, Charlie Crist may just win the race for governor. They are delusional.


You are the partisan. DeSantis failure of leadership and management cause the deaths if over a 100 people. It’s time you stop with your worship of DeSantis and open your eyes. You MAGA people now attack the victims of this storm and DeSantis’s incompetency. This is nothing new for DeSantis.


Good Lord. Given the size of the storm, the # of residents impacted, and the destruction, it amazes me that more people were not killed. Considering that Hurricane Katrina caused over 1800 fatalities, and Hurricane Sandy killed 233 people........ One life lost is tragic, but when you compare the death count to other hurricane disasters, this doesn't even make the list for one of the deadliest hurricanes.

And, as for DeSantis' leadership..... most Floridians are happy.





THIS ^^. Anyone with half a brain would acknowledge he did a good job.
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Anonymous wrote:It could take a month for people in Ft Myers to get power back

https://news.yahoo.com/florida-lee-county-expects-power-220710391.html

Still no good answers about why local and state officials delayed issuing an evacuation order


Maybe this will help you with those answers.......



No, it doesn't. BTW get better sources. Xtina got her taxpayer funded job because she was good at being an online troll. She's never been there to actually provide information to the public.





If it doesn't help you then I can only assume you are not capable of reading......

"Mon, 2pm Lee County was still only under a Tropical Storm Watch. At 5:29pm Lee County went from TS Watch to TS Warning. NWS focus was still Tampa area. It wasn’t until 5:29am Tue that Lee went from TS Warning to Hurricane Warning."





They were in the cone of uncertainty for a couple of days before the storm actually hit. Their actual storm preparedness manual said to evacuate people days before, they just didn't follow it.


The path of the hurricane, even when it was predicted to landfall closer to Tampa, always put Fort Myers, Sanibel and the rest of Lee County, under a Storm Surge Watch/Warning. There was always going to be a dangerous storm surge, and someone dropped the ball in communicating to people what that meant. DeSantis, by saying stuff like "it's people's choice if they want to stay" didn't help. No sense of urgency was communicated to these people.

Also, DeSantis and his GOP friends constant denigration of experts and scientific opinion doesn't help in these situations. The NHC did a great job predicting the path and strength of Ian - Florida officials didn't do all they could have to get people out.


That is just not true. The had a storm surge watch up until Monday evening when it was upgraded to a storm surge warning.
Sorry to disappoint you that storms - including hurricanes - are unpredictable. This is not an exact science.
And, please cite when he denigrated the NHC.


The watch to warning switch is just when it got closer and the threat is in the next 24 hours. The PP is 100% correct. Even if it went to Tampa, hurricane-force winds would have been pushing water into Fort Myers, Sanibel, Captiva, Cape Coral. They would have got at least what Naples got.


And all intelligent adult Floridians knew it and took appropriate action to leave. Do your friends and family members need to specifically be told to leave when 140+ winds are heading to the coast?


Exactly. I live nowhere near Florida and knew a week before Ian hit how serious it would be. As did the entire nation. DeSantis and his team absolutely did all they could to get people out, including instituting mandatory evacuations - which some chose not to follow. Not sure why anyone else is being blamed for their poor decisions.


You might want to look up the meaning of "mandatory."

This is how to communicate the seriousness of a hurricane and its surge, and enforce a mandatory evacuation

https://thehill.com/homenews/348030-texas-mayor-tells-those-not-evacuating-to-write-names-social-security-numbers-on/

A Texas mayor is reportedly advising his residents who are not evacuating before Hurricane Harvey sweeps the state’s coastline to write identifying information on their bodies.

Rockport Mayor Pro Tempore Patrick Rios said Friday, ahead of the massive hurricane’s expected landfall, that residents should either evacuate or make sure their remains can be identified.

“We’re suggesting if people are going to stay here, mark their arm with a Sharpie pen with their name and Social Security number,” Rios said at a morning press conference, as reported by ABC News.



+1 this is how you communicate urgency - not little Ronnie D's "people can leave if they want to or not, whatever, freedom"

Also you have to do it with more than one day's notice. I don't think most people here understand the geography of Florida - how long it takes to get out of the areas that were hardest hit, especially once the highway has become a parking lot due to everyone trying to leave at once, and with gas almost impossible to get. So you can only get so far as your one tank gets you. That's what happens when you don't have enough notice - and that's why people stay.


I'm a Floridian living in Georgia now. I have family in Ft Myers, Tampa, and Jacksonville. They all knew what was coming and steps to take. Not sure what kind of people only heard about the approaching Category 4 hurricane with 140+ winds with one day's notice?/


The posters here are, for the most part, incredibly partisan and will find anything they can to criticize DeSantis.
Many have probably never even been to Florida or know nothing about the state and the people who live there.
Don't listen to them. They seem to believe if they slam him enough, Charlie Crist may just win the race for governor. They are delusional.


You are the partisan. DeSantis failure of leadership and management cause the deaths if over a 100 people. It’s time you stop with your worship of DeSantis and open your eyes. You MAGA people now attack the victims of this storm and DeSantis’s incompetency. This is nothing new for DeSantis.


Good Lord. Given the size of the storm, the # of residents impacted, and the destruction, it amazes me that more people were not killed. Considering that Hurricane Katrina caused over 1800 fatalities, and Hurricane Sandy killed 233 people........ One life lost is tragic, but when you compare the death count to other hurricane disasters, this doesn't even make the list for one of the deadliest hurricanes.

And, as for DeSantis' leadership..... most Floridians are happy.




Give it a little time maybe a one or two weeks. Sound bits and cheap political tricks will not replace governing. Too much boiling just under the surface. Insurance companies are already telling people to F off. It’s going to be very ugly.


Well, you certainly hope so, amirite? And you know ALL about “sound bytes and political tricks.” Yawn.
DP
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Anonymous wrote:It could take a month for people in Ft Myers to get power back

https://news.yahoo.com/florida-lee-county-expects-power-220710391.html

Still no good answers about why local and state officials delayed issuing an evacuation order


Maybe this will help you with those answers.......



No, it doesn't. BTW get better sources. Xtina got her taxpayer funded job because she was good at being an online troll. She's never been there to actually provide information to the public.





If it doesn't help you then I can only assume you are not capable of reading......

"Mon, 2pm Lee County was still only under a Tropical Storm Watch. At 5:29pm Lee County went from TS Watch to TS Warning. NWS focus was still Tampa area. It wasn’t until 5:29am Tue that Lee went from TS Warning to Hurricane Warning."





They were in the cone of uncertainty for a couple of days before the storm actually hit. Their actual storm preparedness manual said to evacuate people days before, they just didn't follow it.


The path of the hurricane, even when it was predicted to landfall closer to Tampa, always put Fort Myers, Sanibel and the rest of Lee County, under a Storm Surge Watch/Warning. There was always going to be a dangerous storm surge, and someone dropped the ball in communicating to people what that meant. DeSantis, by saying stuff like "it's people's choice if they want to stay" didn't help. No sense of urgency was communicated to these people.

Also, DeSantis and his GOP friends constant denigration of experts and scientific opinion doesn't help in these situations. The NHC did a great job predicting the path and strength of Ian - Florida officials didn't do all they could have to get people out.


That is just not true. The had a storm surge watch up until Monday evening when it was upgraded to a storm surge warning.
Sorry to disappoint you that storms - including hurricanes - are unpredictable. This is not an exact science.
And, please cite when he denigrated the NHC.


The watch to warning switch is just when it got closer and the threat is in the next 24 hours. The PP is 100% correct. Even if it went to Tampa, hurricane-force winds would have been pushing water into Fort Myers, Sanibel, Captiva, Cape Coral. They would have got at least what Naples got.


And all intelligent adult Floridians knew it and took appropriate action to leave. Do your friends and family members need to specifically be told to leave when 140+ winds are heading to the coast?


Exactly. I live nowhere near Florida and knew a week before Ian hit how serious it would be. As did the entire nation. DeSantis and his team absolutely did all they could to get people out, including instituting mandatory evacuations - which some chose not to follow. Not sure why anyone else is being blamed for their poor decisions.


You might want to look up the meaning of "mandatory."

This is how to communicate the seriousness of a hurricane and its surge, and enforce a mandatory evacuation

https://thehill.com/homenews/348030-texas-mayor-tells-those-not-evacuating-to-write-names-social-security-numbers-on/

A Texas mayor is reportedly advising his residents who are not evacuating before Hurricane Harvey sweeps the state’s coastline to write identifying information on their bodies.

Rockport Mayor Pro Tempore Patrick Rios said Friday, ahead of the massive hurricane’s expected landfall, that residents should either evacuate or make sure their remains can be identified.

“We’re suggesting if people are going to stay here, mark their arm with a Sharpie pen with their name and Social Security number,” Rios said at a morning press conference, as reported by ABC News.



+1 this is how you communicate urgency - not little Ronnie D's "people can leave if they want to or not, whatever, freedom"

Also you have to do it with more than one day's notice. I don't think most people here understand the geography of Florida - how long it takes to get out of the areas that were hardest hit, especially once the highway has become a parking lot due to everyone trying to leave at once, and with gas almost impossible to get. So you can only get so far as your one tank gets you. That's what happens when you don't have enough notice - and that's why people stay.


I'm a Floridian living in Georgia now. I have family in Ft Myers, Tampa, and Jacksonville. They all knew what was coming and steps to take. Not sure what kind of people only heard about the approaching Category 4 hurricane with 140+ winds with one day's notice?/


The posters here are, for the most part, incredibly partisan and will find anything they can to criticize DeSantis.
Many have probably never even been to Florida or know nothing about the state and the people who live there.
Don't listen to them. They seem to believe if they slam him enough, Charlie Crist may just win the race for governor. They are delusional.


You are the partisan. DeSantis failure of leadership and management cause the deaths if over a 100 people. It’s time you stop with your worship of DeSantis and open your eyes. You MAGA people now attack the victims of this storm and DeSantis’s incompetency. This is nothing new for DeSantis.


Good Lord. Given the size of the storm, the # of residents impacted, and the destruction, it amazes me that more people were not killed. Considering that Hurricane Katrina caused over 1800 fatalities, and Hurricane Sandy killed 233 people........ One life lost is tragic, but when you compare the death count to other hurricane disasters, this doesn't even make the list for one of the deadliest hurricanes.

And, as for DeSantis' leadership..... most Floridians are happy.




Give it a little time maybe a one or two weeks. Sound bits and cheap political tricks will not replace governing. Too much boiling just under the surface. Insurance companies are already telling people to F off. It’s going to be very ugly.


Well, you certainly hope so, amirite? And you know ALL about “sound bytes and political tricks.” Yawn.
DP


Oh here we go. The Fox News viewer has taken to attacking anyone who questions the new conservatives Messiah. DeSantis has already said everything is the mainstream media fault. Now DeSantis did say no one has to evacuate even in a mandatory evacuation because people are free in Florida. Let’s face it if people listened to Governor DeSantis saying they did not have leave during a mandatory evacuation it’s their own fault (and the media!). DeSantis is not responsible for anything. Oh and by the way donate some more money to DeSantis’s private slush fund.

The only thing worst vs the fake con man DeSantis is his losers followers. Stick your head in the sand and hide but please do not bring do this country with your crazy bullsh#t.
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OMG. His tough-guy act is so cringeworthy.
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Anonymous wrote:It could take a month for people in Ft Myers to get power back

https://news.yahoo.com/florida-lee-county-expects-power-220710391.html

Still no good answers about why local and state officials delayed issuing an evacuation order


Maybe this will help you with those answers.......



No, it doesn't. BTW get better sources. Xtina got her taxpayer funded job because she was good at being an online troll. She's never been there to actually provide information to the public.





If it doesn't help you then I can only assume you are not capable of reading......

"Mon, 2pm Lee County was still only under a Tropical Storm Watch. At 5:29pm Lee County went from TS Watch to TS Warning. NWS focus was still Tampa area. It wasn’t until 5:29am Tue that Lee went from TS Warning to Hurricane Warning."





They were in the cone of uncertainty for a couple of days before the storm actually hit. Their actual storm preparedness manual said to evacuate people days before, they just didn't follow it.


The path of the hurricane, even when it was predicted to landfall closer to Tampa, always put Fort Myers, Sanibel and the rest of Lee County, under a Storm Surge Watch/Warning. There was always going to be a dangerous storm surge, and someone dropped the ball in communicating to people what that meant. DeSantis, by saying stuff like "it's people's choice if they want to stay" didn't help. No sense of urgency was communicated to these people.

Also, DeSantis and his GOP friends constant denigration of experts and scientific opinion doesn't help in these situations. The NHC did a great job predicting the path and strength of Ian - Florida officials didn't do all they could have to get people out.


That is just not true. The had a storm surge watch up until Monday evening when it was upgraded to a storm surge warning.
Sorry to disappoint you that storms - including hurricanes - are unpredictable. This is not an exact science.
And, please cite when he denigrated the NHC.


The watch to warning switch is just when it got closer and the threat is in the next 24 hours. The PP is 100% correct. Even if it went to Tampa, hurricane-force winds would have been pushing water into Fort Myers, Sanibel, Captiva, Cape Coral. They would have got at least what Naples got.


And all intelligent adult Floridians knew it and took appropriate action to leave. Do your friends and family members need to specifically be told to leave when 140+ winds are heading to the coast?


Exactly. I live nowhere near Florida and knew a week before Ian hit how serious it would be. As did the entire nation. DeSantis and his team absolutely did all they could to get people out, including instituting mandatory evacuations - which some chose not to follow. Not sure why anyone else is being blamed for their poor decisions.


You might want to look up the meaning of "mandatory."

This is how to communicate the seriousness of a hurricane and its surge, and enforce a mandatory evacuation

https://thehill.com/homenews/348030-texas-mayor-tells-those-not-evacuating-to-write-names-social-security-numbers-on/

A Texas mayor is reportedly advising his residents who are not evacuating before Hurricane Harvey sweeps the state’s coastline to write identifying information on their bodies.

Rockport Mayor Pro Tempore Patrick Rios said Friday, ahead of the massive hurricane’s expected landfall, that residents should either evacuate or make sure their remains can be identified.

“We’re suggesting if people are going to stay here, mark their arm with a Sharpie pen with their name and Social Security number,” Rios said at a morning press conference, as reported by ABC News.



+1 this is how you communicate urgency - not little Ronnie D's "people can leave if they want to or not, whatever, freedom"

Also you have to do it with more than one day's notice. I don't think most people here understand the geography of Florida - how long it takes to get out of the areas that were hardest hit, especially once the highway has become a parking lot due to everyone trying to leave at once, and with gas almost impossible to get. So you can only get so far as your one tank gets you. That's what happens when you don't have enough notice - and that's why people stay.


I'm a Floridian living in Georgia now. I have family in Ft Myers, Tampa, and Jacksonville. They all knew what was coming and steps to take. Not sure what kind of people only heard about the approaching Category 4 hurricane with 140+ winds with one day's notice?/


The posters here are, for the most part, incredibly partisan and will find anything they can to criticize DeSantis.
Many have probably never even been to Florida or know nothing about the state and the people who live there.
Don't listen to them. They seem to believe if they slam him enough, Charlie Crist may just win the race for governor. They are delusional.


You are the partisan. DeSantis failure of leadership and management cause the deaths if over a 100 people. It’s time you stop with your worship of DeSantis and open your eyes. You MAGA people now attack the victims of this storm and DeSantis’s incompetency. This is nothing new for DeSantis.


Good Lord. Given the size of the storm, the # of residents impacted, and the destruction, it amazes me that more people were not killed. Considering that Hurricane Katrina caused over 1800 fatalities, and Hurricane Sandy killed 233 people........ One life lost is tragic, but when you compare the death count to other hurricane disasters, this doesn't even make the list for one of the deadliest hurricanes.

And, as for DeSantis' leadership..... most Floridians are happy.




Give it a little time maybe a one or two weeks. Sound bits and cheap political tricks will not replace governing. Too much boiling just under the surface. Insurance companies are already telling people to F off. It’s going to be very ugly.


Well, you certainly hope so, amirite? And you know ALL about “sound bytes and political tricks.” Yawn.
DP


Oh here we go. The Fox News viewer has taken to attacking anyone who questions the new conservatives Messiah. DeSantis has already said everything is the mainstream media fault. Now DeSantis did say no one has to evacuate even in a mandatory evacuation because people are free in Florida. Let’s face it if people listened to Governor DeSantis saying they did not have leave during a mandatory evacuation it’s their own fault (and the media!). DeSantis is not responsible for anything. Oh and by the way donate some more money to DeSantis’s private slush fund.

The only thing worst vs the fake con man DeSantis is his losers followers. Stick your head in the sand and hide but please do not bring do this country with your crazy bullsh#t.


"Fox News viewer"? No, hon. Not everyone who disagrees with you is a Fox News viewer. DeSantis issued a mandatory evacuation order - correctly noting that they couldn't force anyone to leave their homes. Anyone who is not a half-wit would know that means to get the hell out. It's amusing to envision your reaction had he actually sent troops in to forcibly haul people from their homes. Your head would be exploding as you splutter some nonsensical garbage about "Fascism!! Nazis!!" You know it, we all know it. Instead, DeSantis laid out the facts - repeatedly - that Ian would be a monster of a storm and that anyone in mandatory evacuation areas should GET OUT. Those who chose not to? Oh well, play stupid games...

DeSantis constantly communicated using facts, not feelings (or partisan politics) - starting days before Ian made landfall in Florida. That's called good leadership - something you clearly know nothing about.
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Anonymous wrote:It could take a month for people in Ft Myers to get power back

https://news.yahoo.com/florida-lee-county-expects-power-220710391.html

Still no good answers about why local and state officials delayed issuing an evacuation order


Maybe this will help you with those answers.......



No, it doesn't. BTW get better sources. Xtina got her taxpayer funded job because she was good at being an online troll. She's never been there to actually provide information to the public.





If it doesn't help you then I can only assume you are not capable of reading......

"Mon, 2pm Lee County was still only under a Tropical Storm Watch. At 5:29pm Lee County went from TS Watch to TS Warning. NWS focus was still Tampa area. It wasn’t until 5:29am Tue that Lee went from TS Warning to Hurricane Warning."





They were in the cone of uncertainty for a couple of days before the storm actually hit. Their actual storm preparedness manual said to evacuate people days before, they just didn't follow it.


The path of the hurricane, even when it was predicted to landfall closer to Tampa, always put Fort Myers, Sanibel and the rest of Lee County, under a Storm Surge Watch/Warning. There was always going to be a dangerous storm surge, and someone dropped the ball in communicating to people what that meant. DeSantis, by saying stuff like "it's people's choice if they want to stay" didn't help. No sense of urgency was communicated to these people.

Also, DeSantis and his GOP friends constant denigration of experts and scientific opinion doesn't help in these situations. The NHC did a great job predicting the path and strength of Ian - Florida officials didn't do all they could have to get people out.


That is just not true. The had a storm surge watch up until Monday evening when it was upgraded to a storm surge warning.
Sorry to disappoint you that storms - including hurricanes - are unpredictable. This is not an exact science.
And, please cite when he denigrated the NHC.


The watch to warning switch is just when it got closer and the threat is in the next 24 hours. The PP is 100% correct. Even if it went to Tampa, hurricane-force winds would have been pushing water into Fort Myers, Sanibel, Captiva, Cape Coral. They would have got at least what Naples got.


And all intelligent adult Floridians knew it and took appropriate action to leave. Do your friends and family members need to specifically be told to leave when 140+ winds are heading to the coast?


Exactly. I live nowhere near Florida and knew a week before Ian hit how serious it would be. As did the entire nation. DeSantis and his team absolutely did all they could to get people out, including instituting mandatory evacuations - which some chose not to follow. Not sure why anyone else is being blamed for their poor decisions.


You might want to look up the meaning of "mandatory."

This is how to communicate the seriousness of a hurricane and its surge, and enforce a mandatory evacuation

https://thehill.com/homenews/348030-texas-mayor-tells-those-not-evacuating-to-write-names-social-security-numbers-on/

A Texas mayor is reportedly advising his residents who are not evacuating before Hurricane Harvey sweeps the state’s coastline to write identifying information on their bodies.

Rockport Mayor Pro Tempore Patrick Rios said Friday, ahead of the massive hurricane’s expected landfall, that residents should either evacuate or make sure their remains can be identified.

“We’re suggesting if people are going to stay here, mark their arm with a Sharpie pen with their name and Social Security number,” Rios said at a morning press conference, as reported by ABC News.



+1 this is how you communicate urgency - not little Ronnie D's "people can leave if they want to or not, whatever, freedom"

Also you have to do it with more than one day's notice. I don't think most people here understand the geography of Florida - how long it takes to get out of the areas that were hardest hit, especially once the highway has become a parking lot due to everyone trying to leave at once, and with gas almost impossible to get. So you can only get so far as your one tank gets you. That's what happens when you don't have enough notice - and that's why people stay.


I'm a Floridian living in Georgia now. I have family in Ft Myers, Tampa, and Jacksonville. They all knew what was coming and steps to take. Not sure what kind of people only heard about the approaching Category 4 hurricane with 140+ winds with one day's notice?/


The posters here are, for the most part, incredibly partisan and will find anything they can to criticize DeSantis.
Many have probably never even been to Florida or know nothing about the state and the people who live there.
Don't listen to them. They seem to believe if they slam him enough, Charlie Crist may just win the race for governor. They are delusional.


You are the partisan. DeSantis failure of leadership and management cause the deaths if over a 100 people. It’s time you stop with your worship of DeSantis and open your eyes. You MAGA people now attack the victims of this storm and DeSantis’s incompetency. This is nothing new for DeSantis.


Good Lord. Given the size of the storm, the # of residents impacted, and the destruction, it amazes me that more people were not killed. Considering that Hurricane Katrina caused over 1800 fatalities, and Hurricane Sandy killed 233 people........ One life lost is tragic, but when you compare the death count to other hurricane disasters, this doesn't even make the list for one of the deadliest hurricanes.

And, as for DeSantis' leadership..... most Floridians are happy.




Give it a little time maybe a one or two weeks. Sound bits and cheap political tricks will not replace governing. Too much boiling just under the surface. Insurance companies are already telling people to F off. It’s going to be very ugly.


Well, you certainly hope so, amirite? And you know ALL about “sound bytes and political tricks.” Yawn.
DP

Queue leftists believing DeSantis being able to control the weather to aide his campaign.
Anonymous
DeSantis still hasn’t really done anything significant. He’s just posing until the national and state media move on and leave the recovery as a local issue, as happened with Hurricane Michael.
Anonymous
this is an amazing photo

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:DeSantis still hasn’t really done anything significant. He’s just posing until the national and state media move on and leave the recovery as a local issue, as happened with Hurricane Michael.


The residents of Pine Island take issue with your statement.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:this is an amazing photo



This is even more amazing.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:this is an amazing photo



This is even more amazing.



Rs have weird taste, that's for sure.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:this is an amazing photo


It really is. I know that photos only catch a split second, but this split second is funny and really displays what elected Republicans are.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:this is an amazing photo


It really is. I know that photos only catch a split second, but this split second is funny and really displays what elected Republicans are.

This underscores why I don’t think DeSantis is such a shoo-in for the GOP nomination once Trump is out of the picture as a lot of people do. He has zero charisma and his personality is off putting.
Anonymous

I loathe DeSantis, but there is no evidence showing he's doing a bad job on hurricane Ian recovery. It's way too soon to start criticizing him.

When it's time, believe me, I will

And I agree that his personality is a little off-putting compared to the Trumpian personality the right-wingers are used to... but he still has the best shot for the Republican candidacy. Trump is done.
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