Hurricane Ian's effect on Florida voting

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The destruction based on the Hurricane Ian is devastating. So, many homes and infrastructure destroyed. We are little over month away from midterm. Based on the destruction, people would be displaced and voting areas would be closed etc.

How would this affect the election. Is there a precedence? Can these folks who have lost a lot vote. Has Desantis and his AG have a plan to protect voting rights of the disaster affected folks? Are they going to play games to depress Democrat voting area not being supported where as republicans voting area being given alternatives?

Let's see... I've just lost my entire house, cars, personal property... perhaps my job... perhaps I have a family member who was injured in the storm. But by golly, the first thing I'm thinking about is my voting rights for an election 6 weeks away.

OP, frankly I find your post really offensive. This is not about you and your desire to cling to the D's handful-seats majority in the House.

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OP seems to believe that Democrats are the only ones affected by this disaster.
This thread is a window into the mind of a liberal. Priorities.

It’s a better one into the minds of cons. You guys are clearly very angry that people can see how your party targets and attacks Democrats and prevents Democratic votes from counting.

To be honest? This ‘con’ doesn’t even begin to understand where your anger and disdain come from. If ‘cons’ prevented Dem votes from counting, Biden would not be in office. JFC

You don't understand because your identity is wrapped up in you not understanding.

[Anonymous]

Apparently there are other sane people who are wondering about this: https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/hurricane-ian-will-affect-voting-florida-needs-make-it-easier-right-now

Florida needs to do a better job protecting the vote from Hurricane Ian than it did with 2018′s Hurricane Michael. In forthcoming research in The Journal of Politics, we show how Hurricane Michael — and the state’s reaction — hurt polling places and depressed turnout.

The main lesson from 2018? Florida must do everything it can to keep polling places affected by Ian open or should establish emergency poll sites in the same areas rather than making voters travel farther to vote.

Category 5 Hurricane Michael hit Florida on Oct. 10, 2018. It devastated the panhandle, causing $25 billion in damage and killing more than a dozen residents. In response, then-Gov. Rick Scott issued an executive order that allowed for loosened mail voting restrictions (great!), and let counties consolidate polling places at the last minute (not great since there was no funding for emergency polling sites).

We learned through records requests that the state did not provide any emergency funding for the election. Most counties consolidated polling places without adding emergency sites. In the eight counties covered by the executive order, the number of polling sites dropped from a planned 125 to 61.

[Anonymous]

I hope Floridians will remember that right before Hurricane Ian, DeSantis used FL state funds to fly amnesty seekers from TX to other states to score political points.

[Anonymous]

then-Gov. Rick Scott issued an executive order that allowed for loosened mail voting restrictions (great!)

This was in 2018 before Trump made voting by mail the biggest bogeyman of all time. I have doubts that DeSantis will do similar but would love to be surprised.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I hope Floridians will remember that right before Hurricane Ian, DeSantis used FL state funds to fly amnesty seekers from TX to other states to score political points.

They won’t.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I hope Floridians will remember that right before Hurricane Ian, DeSantis used FL state funds to fly amnesty seekers from TX to other states to score political points.

Well that's the thing. And also let our state's property insurance market completely collapse on his watch. Crist, running against him, was voted in as governor last time he won in part to fix the state's property insurance system. So, let's see if that happens again.

I loathe DeSantis but he's seemed ok during the storm. Not great. Not the guy you can't wait to see the next update from. Not the guy who seems to be sharing in people's pain or assuring them that he will be there every step of the way to get people back on their feet.

So, who knows.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope Floridians will remember that right before Hurricane Ian, DeSantis used FL state funds to fly amnesty seekers from TX to other states to score political points.

Well that's the thing. And also let our state's property insurance market completely collapse on his watch. Crist, running against him, was voted in as governor last time he won in part to fix the state's property insurance system. So, let's see if that happens again.

I loathe DeSantis but he's seemed ok during the storm. Not great. Not the guy you can't wait to see the next update from. Not the guy who seems to be sharing in people's pain or assuring them that he will be there every step of the way to get people back on their feet.

So, who knows.

That is not DeSantis’s thing. He will steal aid money and divert the rest to his friends.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Um, OP? Plenty of people of ALL political persuasions have had their homes destroyed. You really need to take off your tinfoil hat.

Don’t you know DeSantis planned this hurricane? This site is insane.

You know what’s more insane? Attributing quotes to a place where they weren’t uttered.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope Floridians will remember that right before Hurricane Ian, DeSantis used FL state funds to fly amnesty seekers from TX to other states to score political points.

Well that's the thing. And also let our state's property insurance market completely collapse on his watch. Crist, running against him, was voted in as governor last time he won in part to fix the state's property insurance system. So, let's see if that happens again.

I loathe DeSantis but he's seemed ok during the storm. Not great. Not the guy you can't wait to see the next update from. Not the guy who seems to be sharing in people's pain or assuring them that he will be there every step of the way to get people back on their feet.

So, who knows.

That is not DeSantis’s thing. He will steal aid money and divert the rest to his friends.

Right, but the question was does this natural disaster make his chances of reelection stronger or weaker. I don't think it makes them stronger because he wasn't great on TV. I would think they make them weaker because one big storm shows how horrible it was that he and his cronies in the legislature spent all their time pursuing culture war BS instead of actually focusing their time and attention and our money on things that actually matter. But I don't know if other people feel that way now.

You have to have a viable alternative, too. Crist is a big name in Florida - with a mixed record for winning elections. He's been on TV and out in public being governor-like. Will people see him and think, that's the guy I want at the helm when we get hit by the next storm? I don't know.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I hope Floridians will remember that right before Hurricane Ian, DeSantis used FL state funds to fly amnesty seekers from TX to other states to score political points.

They won’t.

Agreed. Many individuals are tired of paying the cost of supporting asylum seekers and undocumented immigrants without federal assistance. They see sending those people to other places as long-term cost savings. You may disagree but that is some people’s perspective.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope Floridians will remember that right before Hurricane Ian, DeSantis used FL state funds to fly amnesty seekers from TX to other states to score political points.

They won’t.

Agreed. Many individuals are tired of paying the cost of supporting asylum seekers and undocumented immigrants without federal assistance. They see sending those people to other places as long-term cost savings. You may disagree but that is some people’s perspective.

So you think that “alternative facts” are acceptable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope Floridians will remember that right before Hurricane Ian, DeSantis used FL state funds to fly amnesty seekers from TX to other states to score political points.

They won’t.

Agreed. Many individuals are tired of paying the cost of supporting asylum seekers and undocumented immigrants without federal assistance. They see sending those people to other places as long-term cost savings. You may disagree but that is some people’s perspective.

But he didn’t fly asylum seekers from FL to other states; he flew them from TX to other states, on FL’s dime.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope Floridians will remember that right before Hurricane Ian, DeSantis used FL state funds to fly amnesty seekers from TX to other states to score political points.

They won’t.

Agreed. Many individuals are tired of paying the cost of supporting asylum seekers and undocumented immigrants without federal assistance. They see sending those people to other places as long-term cost savings. You may disagree but that is some people’s perspective.

There are 5 million illegals living in Florida. DeSantis has not rounded any these people up or even made an attempt to get Florida under control. One has to ask why? Florida does not even have a border.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The destruction based on the Hurricane Ian is devastating. So, many homes and infrastructure destroyed. We are little over month away from midterm. Based on the destruction, people would be displaced and voting areas would be closed etc.

How would this affect the election. Is there a precedence? Can these folks who have lost a lot vote. Has Desantis and his AG have a plan to protect voting rights of the disaster affected folks? Are they going to play games to depress Democrat voting area not being supported where as republicans voting area being given alternatives?

Let's see... I've just lost my entire house, cars, personal property... perhaps my job... perhaps I have a family member who was injured in the storm. But by golly, the first thing I'm thinking about is my voting rights for an election 6 weeks away.

OP, frankly I find your post really offensive. This is not about you and your desire to cling to the D's handful-seats majority in the House.

+100
OP seems to believe that Democrats are the only ones affected by this disaster.
This thread is a window into the mind of a liberal. Priorities.

It’s a better one into the minds of cons. You guys are clearly very angry that people can see how your party targets and attacks Democrats and prevents Democratic votes from counting.

To be honest? This ‘con’ doesn’t even begin to understand where your anger and disdain come from. If ‘cons’ prevented Dem votes from counting, Biden would not be in office. JFC

Did you happen to notice that conservatives tried to get Democratic votes to count in an effort to undermine our democracy in many states across the country? Also, gerrymandering. Low capacity for reasoning and the willingness to undermine voting and thus democracy through any means necessary has been what the Republicans have relied on to win all the elections they've won for President since 2000.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope Floridians will remember that right before Hurricane Ian, DeSantis used FL state funds to fly amnesty seekers from TX to other states to score political points.

Well that's the thing. And also let our state's property insurance market completely collapse on his watch. Crist, running against him, was voted in as governor last time he won in part to fix the state's property insurance system. So, let's see if that happens again.

I loathe DeSantis but he's seemed ok during the storm. Not great. Not the guy you can't wait to see the next update from. Not the guy who seems to be sharing in people's pain or assuring them that he will be there every step of the way to get people back on their feet.

So, who knows.

That is not DeSantis’s thing. He will steal aid money and divert the rest to his friends.

The recovery will be slow and contentious. Insurers are going to blame all major damage on flooding and will not pay for anything except roof repairs inland where it didn’t flood. People who have flood insurance will get paid but not enough to cover a total loss and the federal government will require rebuilding to higher elevations and stronger building standards. Cities and developers will want to put everything back as it was and will fight the federal government demands for disaster mitigation but it is a condition of the federal money. The state and local governments will hand out contracts to cronies, some of whom will blatantly misspend the money and piss everybody off. Some people will want to sell and move away rather than deal with all this shit, but who will pay them what they think their property is worth? People displaced from their homes will face a shortage of rental options and high rent.