She needs to be encouraged to go into therapy, not continuing to post here. This does nothing. Working with a trained therapist can help her and, judging from her post, she obviously needs the help. Time to stop wallowing and vacillating. She needs to move on. |
Apologies if it seemed I was saying "who cares" about anyone's emotional struggle. I don't see that in my words at all, but maybe you and others do. The point I was trying to make is that keeping secrets or hiding things out of shame will eat a person up. But is any of this easy? No. |
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OP, you ask, "I know there are many of us, but do you feel so lonely in this world holding onto this?"
Yes, definitely. The abuse and trauma I experienced are a huge part of my daily life but keeping it hidden most of the time is very isolating. I have an amazing therapist with whom I can be 100% honest, but the rest of the time, there is almost always something I am keeping quiet or hiding. Nobody, even my lovely, trusted friend, wants to hear that I had memories six times in the last hour or whatever. And people don't realize how much questions involving our families or our youth come up in conversation. What I have found freeing (besides the healing of therapy) is being honest with myself. So often I tried to deny my past and its effects on me, pretending that I wasn't having flashbacks or memories or reactions. Accepting them has made them easier to bear. |
Good for you for not letting your sibling bully you! You are a good example for your kids. |
Then leave. Many of us who have suffered as children developed empathy and patience, which serves the world well. It is a survival skill. If you have no empathy or patience, you aren't really needed here. |
OP here. These are questions I have been asked in therapy. I think it has been ingrained in me people will think I am horrible person by the very people who do the abuse, but also I have also heard some judgment of others like me by people I thought were decent. I did share my perspective based on my experience and I try to assume ignorance. I have one friend (not close) who has led a pretty sheltered life and was raised by parents who worshiped the ground she walked on after struggling with infertility for so long. She truly doesn't think abuse in any form exists. I had the most bizarre conversation with her about it after she heard a story from her sister about one of her students. I think I am learning to take an educate, but then step back if needed approach to people who I find judgmental and I know not to share my own story with them. I do think the self doubt is both a strength and a weakness. It causes me to reflect often on how I treat my own children and apologize when needed and make changes. It also causes me to blame myself still for some of what I experienced in my family of origin, which is problematic. |
OP again. This is an interest perspective and i agree that sometimes I almost feel invisible or like my needs don't matter. I do crave people who get it and posting here helps. I have been gaslit so much I sometimes feel so confused. That said, I get the question "who cares?" and in the end all that should matter is what I think and being true to myself and my experience. I am not there yet, but getting better. |
OP here. I changed to paragraphs because I had not noticed I forgot them. I read the feedback and made the change. |
OP here. Thanks. This is helpful. You know how the latest cultural thing on social media is "core memories." Every time my family tried to created that it turned into dysfunction. I have so many memories of threats of violence (that I knew would not be acted on, but still scary), intimidation, gaslighting, tantrums, insults. My happiest memories all took place away from my family-sleepovers or hangouts with friends, parents of friends who were kind and nurturing to me, teachers who cared, going off to college. |
Thanks. It’s been difficult to deal with, but I’ve moved on. I realize I can’t fix other people and I can only take responsibility for my own actions. |
There’s a real risk that you’re living through your kids and they are affected by it. Also, my mom thought she was breaking free from her abusive (really) parents. She wasn’t, instead she was dysfunctional with us kids in different ways. I guess my point is, don’t seek all your validation from your kids or from DCUM. It can put unbearable pressure on your kids and, without examples in your own parents, you may not even know what loving, competent parenting looks like. You need to work this out with a therapist. |
This x1000. Especially the part about the kids. Don't lay this on their shoulders. They should NOT be your therapists. They need to lead their little lives without the weight of your problems bringing them down, OP. If you love them, then you will take them out of the loop. |
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Hey OP, I bookmarked this thread weeks ago and just getting around to posting.
I grew up with a violent alcoholic gambling philandering POS father who made my mother so miserable she was emotionally disconnected from me from before I was even born, when she allowed him to batter me in the womb. They were both narcissists, my father overt and my mother covert/martyr. On the surface our family looked ‘normal,’ but next door neighbors knew different. There was no affection for me, and no acceptance. I was the scapegoat child while my older brother was the golden who was encouraged to bully me and so every single day of my childhood there was bullying by one of them and some days all three. The only happy memories I have were formed during the summer weeks I spent with my grandmother - my mother always complained that I loved her mother so much (what a narc, huh?) and suggested it was only because she lived at the beach. Well she left the beach when I was only six and I still wanted to be with her every chance I could and would have if she’d lived in a tenement it was just about the peace I had at her house - she was not overly affectionate and not at all spoiling, she just didn’t abuse me. The chance to spend days and weeks without daily verbal or physical abuse was bliss, and when I escaped my family for college it was the same. I thrived under the encouragement of professors and it turns out, I was very very smart and accomplished a great deal despite being told all my life I was a worthless piece of crap who would never amount to anything and was unlovable and a mistake to boot. It took me many years of chasing every means of escape before I finally, in middle age and with my physical and mental health breaking down, confronted my demons. I’m a very sensitive empath who doubtless suffered all the more for being exposed to that kind of abuse - and while the physical was terrifying it is the verbal which destroyed my psyche. I developed anxious/avoidant attachment disorder, the worst kind. And I have never been able to trust love, except that which was offered me by dogs. Even today the friends I know must love me because of how they have been there for me - I do not really believe they love me. The older I have become and the more I have observed - long time working as a domestic violence advocate and later attorney, including criminal law attorney and family law attorney - the more sure I am that a great many people are struggling from childhood trauma very much unresolved. There is some comfort in the certainty I am not alone, including in being someone who will not see a single blood relative at the holidays - but mostly I am just sad at the reality of how much abuse is happening all around us every day and how many children are being crushed by those who should most cherish them but instead they will struggle all their lives with the fallout, because childhood trauma is not easily overcome even with the best mental health resources and the vast majority of people get none. Humans aren’t such a great species, I think. Anyway you are not alone and you are not one bit at fault. Innocent babies never deserve to be abused in any way. So sad that so many are. I’m glad you have a family of your own and are doing everything you can to break the cycle. I hope you have a good holiday season and don’t spend too much time lamenting the family that cannot love you as you deserve. |
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OMG OP I am currently going through this now, and you know how I dealt with it? Just this morning? I confided in my husband.
It was so hard because it's heavy and I do'nt want to be a burden. I'm embarrassed that something that happened so long ago is keeping me back from being a better spouse and mom and human being. But I have learned about trauma and I understand now that healing is not done alone. As hard and terrifying as it is, we heal with others. I'm not totally healed but confiding in my husband inexplicably has lifted a huge burden, and for some reason I feel more confident going forward. I highly recommend reading The Body Keeps the Score. Also check out this video: https://youtu.be/ZoZT8-HqI64 |
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It is hard. My sister in law is emotionally and verbally abusive towards my brother and at times her kids. She can also be a lovely person and no one outside the family would have a clue.
Everyone just feels trapped in the dynamic and despite seeing the impact on my brother and the kids, there isn't much anyone can do. It is all complicated by the fact that they constantly try to get her approval / love and defend her if anyone says anything. It is the cycle that makes it so hard to break. My brother is a shadow of a person now, he just tries his best to protect the kids and keep her happy and get through each day but his spirit is broken and there is no fight in him to get out. |