How long will the shutdown last?

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Anonymous wrote:At the March for Life, speakers talked about shutting down the Govt. over Planned Parenthood. If Dems give in to this, Individual One will do it again and again over his pet issues. Open the Govt. then negotiate about wall funding.

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Trump couldn’t figure out how to negotiate legislation like an adult so he’s bullying the whole country.

If he wants to negotiate immigration, then do that. It has NOTHING to do with a furlough.

Negotiate? I don't see democrats negotiating. They want things their way all the time. Not this time.

Negotiation while someone holds hostage is called extortion.

Can we eventually sue Trump and GOP for extortion? Asking for a friend!?

Your friend should sue Schumer or Pelosi first.

We have three branches of government that must all agree to pass a funding bill.

1) President

2) House

3) Senate (60 votes)

Paul Ryan's bill had the support of both the president and the house. It probably had the majority support in the senate as well. But Chuck Schumer filibustered it (It needs 60 votes to break a filibuster). So the December shutdown is clearly a Schumer shutdown.

McConnell will bring another bill this week that -- 1) the president will sign and 3) the majority of the senate will support but may not be enough to break the 60-vote filibuster, but 2) Pelosi will not be on board.

Democrats only hold one of the three branches. They need to compromise a little.

I guess you were out to lunch when Trump proudly brayed that he owned this shutdown. Try to keep up.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:At the March for Life, speakers talked about shutting down the Govt. over Planned Parenthood. If Dems give in to this, Individual One will do it again and again over his pet issues. Open the Govt. then negotiate about wall funding.

+1

Trump couldn’t figure out how to negotiate legislation like an adult so he’s bullying the whole country.

If he wants to negotiate immigration, then do that. It has NOTHING to do with a furlough.

Negotiate? I don't see democrats negotiating. They want things their way all the time. Not this time.

Negotiation while someone holds hostage is called extortion.

Can we eventually sue Trump and GOP for extortion? Asking for a friend!?

Your friend should sue Schumer or Pelosi first.

We have three branches of government that must all agree to pass a funding bill.

1) President

2) House

3) Senate (60 votes)

Paul Ryan's bill had the support of both the president and the house. It probably had the majority support in the senate as well. But Chuck Schumer filibustered it (It needs 60 votes to break a filibuster). So the December shutdown is clearly a Schumer shutdown.

McConnell will bring another bill this week that -- 1) the president will sign and 3) the majority of the senate will support but may not be enough to break the 60-vote filibuster, but 2) Pelosi will not be on board.

Democrats only hold one of the three branches. They need to compromise a little.

This is patently incorrect. It's a Trump/McConnell shutdown. Not a Schumer shutdown.

This. McConnell won’t negotiate and Trump is holding the government hostage. What is there to compromise on? A wall
is a non starter for Dems, though they are willing and have proposed funding to amp up border security. Trump only wants a wall. His vanity project.

A bill was in the works in December and it was TRUMP who said he’d veto it - then McConnell folded and has essentially gone into hiding. This is all Trump and all the GOP.

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Anonymous wrote:At the March for Life, speakers talked about shutting down the Govt. over Planned Parenthood. If Dems give in to this, Individual One will do it again and again over his pet issues. Open the Govt. then negotiate about wall funding.

+1

Trump couldn’t figure out how to negotiate legislation like an adult so he’s bullying the whole country.

If he wants to negotiate immigration, then do that. It has NOTHING to do with a furlough.

Negotiate? I don't see democrats negotiating. They want things their way all the time. Not this time.

Negotiation while someone holds hostage is called extortion.

Can we eventually sue Trump and GOP for extortion? Asking for a friend!?

Your friend should sue Schumer or Pelosi first.

We have three branches of government that must all agree to pass a funding bill.

1) President

2) House

3) Senate (60 votes)

Paul Ryan's bill had the support of both the president and the house. It probably had the majority support in the senate as well. But Chuck Schumer filibustered it (It needs 60 votes to break a filibuster). So the December shutdown is clearly a Schumer shutdown.

McConnell will bring another bill this week that -- 1) the president will sign and 3) the majority of the senate will support but may not be enough to break the 60-vote filibuster, but 2) Pelosi will not be on board.

Democrats only hold one of the three branches. They need to compromise a little.

This is patently incorrect. It's a Trump/McConnell shutdown. Not a Schumer shutdown.

This. McConnell won’t negotiate and Trump is holding the government hostage. What is there to compromise on? A wall
is a non starter for Dems, though they are willing and have proposed funding to amp up border security. Trump only wants a wall. His vanity project.

A bill was in the works in December and it was TRUMP who said he’d veto it - then McConnell folded and has essentially gone into hiding. This is all Trump and all the GOP.

Paul Ryan's bill had the support of 2 out of the 3 branches. Technically it's Schumer who shut down the government.

McConnel's bill this week likewise will have the support of 2 out of the 3 branches (not counting filibuster).

When you have three parties that need to agree on one thing, and two out of the three agree, logically it is the one who disagrees should get the blame.

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Anonymous wrote:At the March for Life, speakers talked about shutting down the Govt. over Planned Parenthood. If Dems give in to this, Individual One will do it again and again over his pet issues. Open the Govt. then negotiate about wall funding.

+1

Trump couldn’t figure out how to negotiate legislation like an adult so he’s bullying the whole country.

If he wants to negotiate immigration, then do that. It has NOTHING to do with a furlough.

Negotiate? I don't see democrats negotiating. They want things their way all the time. Not this time.

Negotiation while someone holds hostage is called extortion.

Can we eventually sue Trump and GOP for extortion? Asking for a friend!?

Your friend should sue Schumer or Pelosi first.

We have three branches of government that must all agree to pass a funding bill.

1) President

2) House

3) Senate (60 votes)

Paul Ryan's bill had the support of both the president and the house. It probably had the majority support in the senate as well. But Chuck Schumer filibustered it (It needs 60 votes to break a filibuster). So the December shutdown is clearly a Schumer shutdown.

McConnell will bring another bill this week that -- 1) the president will sign and 3) the majority of the senate will support but may not be enough to break the 60-vote filibuster, but 2) Pelosi will not be on board.

Democrats only hold one of the three branches. They need to compromise a little.

This is patently incorrect. It's a Trump/McConnell shutdown. Not a Schumer shutdown.

This. McConnell won’t negotiate and Trump is holding the government hostage. What is there to compromise on? A wall
is a non starter for Dems, though they are willing and have proposed funding to amp up border security. Trump only wants a wall. His vanity project.

A bill was in the works in December and it was TRUMP who said he’d veto it - then McConnell folded and has essentially gone into hiding. This is all Trump and all the GOP.

Paul Ryan's bill had the support of 2 out of the 3 branches. Technically it's Schumer who shut down the government.

McConnel's bill this week likewise will have the support of 2 out of the 3 branches (not counting filibuster).

When you have three parties that need to agree on one thing, and two out of the three agree, logically it is the one who disagrees should get the blame.

I admire your sense of reality.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:At the March for Life, speakers talked about shutting down the Govt. over Planned Parenthood. If Dems give in to this, Individual One will do it again and again over his pet issues. Open the Govt. then negotiate about wall funding.

+1

Trump couldn’t figure out how to negotiate legislation like an adult so he’s bullying the whole country.

If he wants to negotiate immigration, then do that. It has NOTHING to do with a furlough.

Negotiate? I don't see democrats negotiating. They want things their way all the time. Not this time.

Negotiation while someone holds hostage is called extortion.

Can we eventually sue Trump and GOP for extortion? Asking for a friend!?

Your friend should sue Schumer or Pelosi first.

We have three branches of government that must all agree to pass a funding bill.

1) President

2) House

3) Senate (60 votes)

Paul Ryan's bill had the support of both the president and the house. It probably had the majority support in the senate as well. But Chuck Schumer filibustered it (It needs 60 votes to break a filibuster). So the December shutdown is clearly a Schumer shutdown.

McConnell will bring another bill this week that -- 1) the president will sign and 3) the majority of the senate will support but may not be enough to break the 60-vote filibuster, but 2) Pelosi will not be on board.

Democrats only hold one of the three branches. They need to compromise a little.

This is patently incorrect. It's a Trump/McConnell shutdown. Not a Schumer shutdown.

This. McConnell won’t negotiate and Trump is holding the government hostage. What is there to compromise on? A wall
is a non starter for Dems, though they are willing and have proposed funding to amp up border security. Trump only wants a wall. His vanity project.

A bill was in the works in December and it was TRUMP who said he’d veto it - then McConnell folded and has essentially gone into hiding. This is all Trump and all the GOP.

Paul Ryan's bill had the support of 2 out of the 3 branches. Technically it's Schumer who shut down the government.

McConnel's bill this week likewise will have the support of 2 out of the 3 branches (not counting filibuster).

When you have three parties that need to agree on one thing, and two out of the three agree, logically it is the one who disagrees should get the blame.

Since the new year, the House has passed bills that have the support of 2 out of 3 branches and would be veto proof. There was also the short-term spending bill passed just Christmas, in both House and Senate (unanimously). Guess who refused to sign it?

So yes, "when you have three parties that need to agree on one thing, and two out of the three agree, logically it is the one who disagrees should get the blame." That would be Trump.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The longer the shutdown, the better.

Yes, for the Coast Guard and TSA that is so true! Let them eat cake. They signed up to serve. Who cares about their personal finances.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The longer the shutdown, the better.

For Democrats.
Keep eroding what little of the middle you had left GOP.
Keep it up.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At the March for Life, speakers talked about shutting down the Govt. over Planned Parenthood. If Dems give in to this, Individual One will do it again and again over his pet issues. Open the Govt. then negotiate about wall funding.

+1

Trump couldn’t figure out how to negotiate legislation like an adult so he’s bullying the whole country.

If he wants to negotiate immigration, then do that. It has NOTHING to do with a furlough.

Negotiate? I don't see democrats negotiating. They want things their way all the time. Not this time.

Negotiation while someone holds hostage is called extortion.

Can we eventually sue Trump and GOP for extortion? Asking for a friend!?

Your friend should sue Schumer or Pelosi first.

We have three branches of government that must all agree to pass a funding bill.

1) President

2) House

3) Senate (60 votes)

Paul Ryan's bill had the support of both the president and the house. It probably had the majority support in the senate as well. But Chuck Schumer filibustered it (It needs 60 votes to break a filibuster). So the December shutdown is clearly a Schumer shutdown.

McConnell will bring another bill this week that -- 1) the president will sign and 3) the majority of the senate will support but may not be enough to break the 60-vote filibuster, but 2) Pelosi will not be on board.

Democrats only hold one of the three branches. They need to compromise a little.

This is patently incorrect. It's a Trump/McConnell shutdown. Not a Schumer shutdown.

This. McConnell won’t negotiate and Trump is holding the government hostage. What is there to compromise on? A wall
is a non starter for Dems, though they are willing and have proposed funding to amp up border security. Trump only wants a wall. His vanity project.

A bill was in the works in December and it was TRUMP who said he’d veto it - then McConnell folded and has essentially gone into hiding. This is all Trump and all the GOP.

Paul Ryan's bill had the support of 2 out of the 3 branches. Technically it's Schumer who shut down the government.

McConnel's bill this week likewise will have the support of 2 out of the 3 branches (not counting filibuster).

When you have three parties that need to agree on one thing, and two out of the three agree, logically it is the one who disagrees should get the blame.

You can keep repeating this all you want but no one except the MAGAts are buying this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The longer the shutdown, the better.

Yes, the Secret Service should continue to work without pay indefinitely! MAGA!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:At the March for Life, speakers talked about shutting down the Govt. over Planned Parenthood. If Dems give in to this, Individual One will do it again and again over his pet issues. Open the Govt. then negotiate about wall funding.

+1

Trump couldn’t figure out how to negotiate legislation like an adult so he’s bullying the whole country.

If he wants to negotiate immigration, then do that. It has NOTHING to do with a furlough.

Negotiate? I don't see democrats negotiating. They want things their way all the time. Not this time.

Negotiation while someone holds hostage is called extortion.

Can we eventually sue Trump and GOP for extortion? Asking for a friend!?

Your friend should sue Schumer or Pelosi first.

We have three branches of government that must all agree to pass a funding bill.

1) President

2) House

3) Senate (60 votes)

Paul Ryan's bill had the support of both the president and the house. It probably had the majority support in the senate as well. But Chuck Schumer filibustered it (It needs 60 votes to break a filibuster). So the December shutdown is clearly a Schumer shutdown.

McConnell will bring another bill this week that -- 1) the president will sign and 3) the majority of the senate will support but may not be enough to break the 60-vote filibuster, but 2) Pelosi will not be on board.

Democrats only hold one of the three branches. They need to compromise a little.

This is patently incorrect. It's a Trump/McConnell shutdown. Not a Schumer shutdown.

This. McConnell won’t negotiate and Trump is holding the government hostage. What is there to compromise on? A wall
is a non starter for Dems, though they are willing and have proposed funding to amp up border security. Trump only wants a wall. His vanity project.

A bill was in the works in December and it was TRUMP who said he’d veto it - then McConnell folded and has essentially gone into hiding. This is all Trump and all the GOP.

Paul Ryan's bill had the support of 2 out of the 3 branches. Technically it's Schumer who shut down the government.

McConnel's bill this week likewise will have the support of 2 out of the 3 branches (not counting filibuster).

When you have three parties that need to agree on one thing, and two out of the three agree, logically it is the one who disagrees should get the blame.

Since the new year, the House has passed bills that have the support of 2 out of 3 branches and would be veto proof. There was also the short-term spending bill passed just Christmas, in both House and Senate (unanimously). Guess who refused to sign it?

So yes, "when you have three parties that need to agree on one thing, and two out of the three agree, logically it is the one who disagrees should get the blame." That would be Trump.

This is factually not true.

Pelosi's bill only has the support of the house. That's it. Everyone knew it was dead on arrival in the senate. You can go back to this thread and find posts confirming this before Pelosi even introduced her bills.

[Anonymous]

The ball is in Nancy’s court now. Make a reasonable offer in response. Cut it to 1 or 2 billion and make him agree to an increase in the minimum wage. Sound nothing in the hope that Trump will just go away is not a solution.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The ball is in Nancy’s court now. Make a reasonable offer in response. Cut it to 1 or 2 billion and make him agree to an increase in the minimum wage. Sound nothing in the hope that Trump will just go away is not a solution.

^ doing

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The ball is in Nancy’s court now. Make a reasonable offer in response. Cut it to 1 or 2 billion and make him agree to an increase in the minimum wage. Sound nothing in the hope that Trump will just go away is not a solution.

Where's Mitch?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The longer the shutdown, the better.

For Democrats.
Keep eroding what little of the middle you had left GOP.
Keep it up.

Nope.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At the March for Life, speakers talked about shutting down the Govt. over Planned Parenthood. If Dems give in to this, Individual One will do it again and again over his pet issues. Open the Govt. then negotiate about wall funding.

+1

Trump couldn’t figure out how to negotiate legislation like an adult so he’s bullying the whole country.

If he wants to negotiate immigration, then do that. It has NOTHING to do with a furlough.

Negotiate? I don't see democrats negotiating. They want things their way all the time. Not this time.

Negotiation while someone holds hostage is called extortion.

Can we eventually sue Trump and GOP for extortion? Asking for a friend!?

Your friend should sue Schumer or Pelosi first.

We have three branches of government that must all agree to pass a funding bill.

1) President

2) House

3) Senate (60 votes)

Paul Ryan's bill had the support of both the president and the house. It probably had the majority support in the senate as well. But Chuck Schumer filibustered it (It needs 60 votes to break a filibuster). So the December shutdown is clearly a Schumer shutdown.

McConnell will bring another bill this week that -- 1) the president will sign and 3) the majority of the senate will support but may not be enough to break the 60-vote filibuster, but 2) Pelosi will not be on board.

Democrats only hold one of the three branches. They need to compromise a little.

This is patently incorrect. It's a Trump/McConnell shutdown. Not a Schumer shutdown.

This. McConnell won’t negotiate and Trump is holding the government hostage. What is there to compromise on? A wall
is a non starter for Dems, though they are willing and have proposed funding to amp up border security. Trump only wants a wall. His vanity project.

A bill was in the works in December and it was TRUMP who said he’d veto it - then McConnell folded and has essentially gone into hiding. This is all Trump and all the GOP.

Paul Ryan's bill had the support of 2 out of the 3 branches. Technically it's Schumer who shut down the government.

McConnel's bill this week likewise will have the support of 2 out of the 3 branches (not counting filibuster).

When you have three parties that need to agree on one thing, and two out of the three agree, logically it is the one who disagrees should get the blame.

Remember the senator from India.

Democrats expanded legal immigration and encourage illegal immigration, All in the name of votes. ICE wanted this for investment in the border before Democrats made it political. Democrats have abandoned the middle class in favor or urban elites and the elites continue to say f’ck you to the workers.

And Because of this the Democrats gave away 3 Supreme Court choices. We need leaders that will fight for workers and not increased immigration/DACA.