How long will the shutdown last?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:CNN: Trump caved
MSNBC: Trump caved
Rest of MSM: Trump caved
Entire World: Trump caved
Fox News: Is the left really against racism if they discriminate against red hats?!?

lol. Their headline says: trump and democrats reach agreement

The Post’s Aaron Blake: “Calling this a "deal" between Democrats and the GOP is kinda like calling the Treaty of Versailles a deal between the allies and Germany.”

[Anonymous]

I had to jump in my car to drive up most of the east coast as soon as the Rose Garden speech started, and I just have to say that checking back into this thread after today’s news has been the best thing I’ve done all day. In a day that included a) getting my tenant’s heat back on in less than four hours from notification of something that was wrong to the minute the HVAC guy left having fixed it, and b) my getting a warning for 85 in a 65.

Bravo, ladies and gentlemen. The last ten or so pages of this thread represent some of the best the DCUM politics forum has to offer. I salute you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pelosi owns Trump.

That is all.

She grabbed him by the p*ssy.

Love!

[Anonymous]

Press play!

My pal just had a lovely month off WITH pay! She's one of the lucky ones.

[Anonymous]

More proof that Trump caved mostly because he was mad about not being able to make his speech at the SOTU. Hungry federal workers and crumbling national parks are fine, but to not have the opportunity to give his speech. Unthinkable!

After watching Ms. Pelosi this week disinvite Mr. Trump from delivering the State of the Union address while the government remained closed, Mr. McConnell concluded that she would never cave and decided to come off the sidelines to try to end the standoff. He scheduled votes for Thursday on two plans to end the stalemate, one on Mr. Trump’s terms and another Democratic version, mainly to demonstrate to the president that he did not have enough support to prevail.

After both bills failed to muster the 60 votes required for passage on Thursday, Mr. Trump was fed up and ready to get it over with, according to advisers. He was eager to get the dispute resolved at least temporarily so he could deliver his State of the Union address. He told Vice President Mike Pence and Jared Kushner, his son-in-law and senior adviser, to give him options.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pelosi owns Trump.

That is all.

She grabbed him by the p*ssy.

Love!

Why is that ok to say if it’s female liberal doing it? God Dems are really stupid.

Pelosi belongs in a dementia ward.

[Anonymous]

^^ to be clear- you do realize that Pelosi didn’t say that vulgar thing? Right?
Trump is the one who talks about folks that way.
In general I think folks excuse female on male violence, and it’s not ok.
And no- she didn’t grab him by the p*ssy. She won a political showdown & prayerfully saved 800,000 from repeated threats by trump & GOP. That is winning!!

[Anonymous]

I don't understand how the left blames the right and the right blames the left.

Both are to blame.

Trump: I want a wall.
Pelosi: If we give in, he'll ask for more next time.

All the while, people living paycheck to paycheck were being played.

Both sides are sick, and sadly, most Americans won't break free from a left or right agenda LONG enough to witness how they're pawns in this game for power.

You do know the shutdown cost $6B, which is more than Trump's request.

and those poor contractors who won't be paid at all . . .

Who's looking after the "little people?"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand how the left blames the right and the right blames the left.

Both are to blame.

Trump: I want a wall.
Pelosi: If we give in, he'll ask for more next time.

All the while, people living paycheck to paycheck were being played.

Both sides are sick, and sadly, most Americans won't break free from a left or right agenda LONG enough to witness how they're pawns in this game for power.

You do know the shutdown cost $6B, which is more than Trump's request.

and those poor contractors who won't be paid at all . . .

Who's looking after the "little people?"

Sorry, Trump owns this. He turned down everything that was offered before, then chose to make this his hill to die on. He could have ended the shutdown at any point and chose to drag it out till the bitter, humiliating end he got. Why does the government have to shut down for Trump's whims? They should have legislated this in the correct manner.

[Anonymous]

Isn't this his third shutdown? And he's already threatening to shut it down again. Is there a pattern here?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Isn't this his third shutdown? And he's already threatening to shut it down again. Is there a pattern here?

What would be the motive for his fourth shutdown? To drive his ratings further into the gutter?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand how the left blames the right and the right blames the left.

Both are to blame.

Trump: I want a wall.
Pelosi: If we give in, he'll ask for more next time.

All the while, people living paycheck to paycheck were being played.

Both sides are sick, and sadly, most Americans won't break free from a left or right agenda LONG enough to witness how they're pawns in this game for power.

You do know the shutdown cost $6B, which is more than Trump's request.

and those poor contractors who won't be paid at all . . .

Who's looking after the "little people?"

Usually in politics, both sides would be to blame. In this particular instance, such is not the case. The GOP Senate had already passed by voice vote (and unanimously) a clean bill with no wall, because Trump told them he would sign it. However, he had been blustering about money for the wall and famously told Pelosi and Schumer that he would close the government down if he didn't get his way. Once Anne Coulture started to public shame Trump, he called in Ryan and got the House to pass a bill with wall funding in it. The Senate didn't take it up and the deadline expired for the shutdown. This was before Pelosi became Speaker.

Once the Dems took the House, they passed a bill that was identical to what the Senate had passed before Christmas that passed unanimously. Why didn't McConnell bring it to the floor? Hubris? Acquiesence? I don't know, but there was no reason, based on public support or past Senate action, for Pelosi to change course. After 35 days, she was proven right. The shutdown was all on Trump and McConnell. There were no "both sides" to this. Any suggestion there are or were is simply not accurate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Isn't this his third shutdown? And he's already threatening to shut it down again. Is there a pattern here?

There is and the Freedom Caucus could not be happier. So glad the Democrats did not allow this tactic to work. If Mitch McConnell is smart he will allow the Senate to vote on a bill to avoid all future shutdowns by having an automatic CR if an appropriation bill does not pass by a funding deadline. We need to stop allowing our federal government to be held hostage to the whims of any one Senator or the President. I wish we had learned this lesson after Ted Cruz paralyzed the nation in 2013.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Isn't this his third shutdown? And he's already threatening to shut it down again. Is there a pattern here?

What would be the motive for his fourth shutdown? To drive his ratings further into the gutter?

I don't think he cares about ratings. Any negative polls is fake news to him and his supporters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pelosi owns Trump.

That is all.

She grabbed him by the p*ssy.

Love!

Why is that ok to say if it’s female liberal doing it? God Dems are really stupid.

Pelosi belongs in a dementia ward.

I bet you didn't like the movie Django Unchained, did you.