https://www.aarp.org/home-family/sex-intimacy/info-01-2013/seniors-having-sex-older-couples.html those figures you highlighted are staggering (and depressing). |
those figures you highlighted are staggering (and depressing). Why is it depressing that 3/4 report being very happy? |
All the stats you just quoted ignore the essential point: older men's interest versus older women's. I assure you those low numbers are due to women rejecting their husband's advances. You are attempting to obfuscate the problem. Even the wording of your PP attempts to do this: you said that "Men's sex lives DO often take a dive is what you said, but that was NOT the question! The question was about men's interest in sex, irrespective that his partner has (selfishly) decided that she is "done with sex" ... and (crazily) expects that he will go along with that plan. It would be unfair of me to suggest the uninterested wife to "just do it" despite her lack of desire, hence the only logical resolution, where BOTH get what they want/need... open marriage. What else do you suggest? |
I suggest you never marry. You are unworthy of the institution. Open marriage is a worthless marriage with worthless people. True marriage has commitment. It is way bigger than sex. |
What is your solution then when the wife loses interest? Sticking your head into the sand, pretending he will "just deal" is not a winning strategy. By all means, inform us of a better answer. |
Be an adult. Talk it over. Handle it. If you can't come to an agreement, then a divorce. |
We really are not so far apart on this topic. Agreed: be an adult. Talk it over. Realize that by the time anybody comes here for advice, there has already been LOTS of talking. It's not like the wife does not know they aren't having sex, or that the husband wants sex, and is unhappy over it. She knows all this, still she just does not "want to". And more talks about sex is not sexy. You can't negotiate sexual desire. Exactly like you said, that leaves divorce, and I totally agree that a sexless marriage is completely dead/over/finito. But... here's the thing... the sexless wife obviously wants to stay married!!! Otherwise, she would have already "been the adult" and filed for divorce. Yet the sexless wife prefers all the marriage benefits (comfort, finances, custody, healthcare, retirement) over a divorce... she just does not want to do the "sex part" of marriage. She is happy to remain peaceful room mates. For all those same reasons, a husband should ALSO be permitted to stay married, as room mates. This is only possible by him outsourcing the "sex part" to another woman. So opening the marriage is necessary to save the marriage, enabling both spouses can have what they want. Now do you see? |
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Our marriage is currently sexless due to some health issues and the stress of unemployment.
It is not open nor is it "finito." We are going strong despite the obstacles. Some men are good men who honor their commitments. Some men care more about their families than themselves. |
| You don't outsource sex in a marriage, you cheat. This is why I do not feel sorry for any spouse in a sexless marriage. Deal with your mess and divorce. |
You, like many people of said exact the same thing: sexless marriage = divorce. And I totally agree that any marriage without sex is not a romantic relationship and should end. Except for the fact the sexless women often don't want to divorce. The only way that works is by outsourcing the sex. |
That makes no sense for the man. She gets his resources; he gets nothing, plus he has to deal with the extra aggro of sneaking around. Better to pull the plug. |
Who cares what they want. You are not sharing the benefits of the marriage, so why should someone else accommodate your BS marriage. |
I disagree. Men do get something from staying married. He gets his kids full time. He gets somebody to care for him (because she does ... as he does her! This isn't a one way street). He gets the stability of a family. He gets his best friend and partner. And he gets sex on the side without the emotional complications. |
Are you getting laid once a week? Judging by the conversations I've had with a lot of different women over the years, I honestly think that is the best you can hope for. Be grateful it's not once a month or less. |
Why is it depressing that 3/4 report being very happy? the high amount of couples not having any sex. And I do find it curious about the 1/4 of couples being "extremely happy" despite never having sex. What ages are we talking here? What kind of couples got interviewed for this? I guarantee you if you poll of married couples in their 40s and 50s who rarely/never have sex, you won't get nearly 1/4. |