Will Manchin and Sinema crack?

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Anonymous wrote:Manchin just cracked. He’s now set the stage to negotiate a deal on reconciliation. It will definitely come down a lot. I predict it lands somewhere between $2T-$2.5T. A lot of the climate stuff will get chucked or watered down. Both the BIF and reconciliation will pass by the end of October.

He didn't crack. He waved a contract he signed with Schumer THREE MONTHS AGO that stating the bill would be no more than $1.5 Trillion. Someone call AOC and tell her to purge her wish list and move on. She's been out-flanked by real politicians.

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Anonymous wrote:Now we have the numbers. Pass both bills and get it done Dems.

Though Manchin mandating that the Fed "ends quantitative easing" is laughable. Neither the POTUS nor Congress directly have control over that. Such a bizarro demand.

Yup, get er done. Time to drop the narrow interest stuff and procedural reaches. If this ends with the reconcilliation bill reducing the deficit that'll be even better. Now the Republicans will be threatening default in order to prevent reducing the deficit, lol

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Anonymous wrote:Manchin just cracked. He’s now set the stage to negotiate a deal on reconciliation. It will definitely come down a lot. I predict it lands somewhere between $2T-$2.5T. A lot of the climate stuff will get chucked or watered down. Both the BIF and reconciliation will pass by the end of October.

He didn't crack. He waved a contract he signed with Schumer THREE MONTHS AGO that stating the bill would be no more than $1.5 Trillion. Someone call AOC and tell her to purge her wish list and move on. She's been out-flanked by real politicians.

Schumer didn't lie, he just had to put on a dog & pony show in front of the cameras for the Green New Deal contingent.

$1T bipartisan infrastructure + $1.5T for green tech + social infrastructure is still A LOT of spending. I love to see it!

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Anonymous wrote:Manchin just cracked. He’s now set the stage to negotiate a deal on reconciliation. It will definitely come down a lot. I predict it lands somewhere between $2T-$2.5T. A lot of the climate stuff will get chucked or watered down. Both the BIF and reconciliation will pass by the end of October.

He didn't crack. He waved a contract he signed with Schumer THREE MONTHS AGO that stating the bill would be no more than $1.5 Trillion. Someone call AOC and tell her to purge her wish list and move on. She's been out-flanked by real politicians.

Schumer didn't lie, he just had to put on a dog & pony show in front of the cameras for the Green New Deal contingent.

$1T bipartisan infrastructure + $1.5T for green tech + social infrastructure is still A LOT of spending. I love to see it!

Yeah. I like this = the priority is physical infrastructure and addressing climate change and THAT'S IT. Fantastic. Take your welfare programs up in a separate bill on a separate vote instead of trying to hide it under CC and Infrastructure.

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Anonymous wrote:Manchin just cracked. He’s now set the stage to negotiate a deal on reconciliation. It will definitely come down a lot. I predict it lands somewhere between $2T-$2.5T. A lot of the climate stuff will get chucked or watered down. Both the BIF and reconciliation will pass by the end of October.

He didn't crack. He waved a contract he signed with Schumer THREE MONTHS AGO that stating the bill would be no more than $1.5 Trillion. Someone call AOC and tell her to purge her wish list and move on. She's been out-flanked by real politicians.

Schumer didn't lie, he just had to put on a dog & pony show in front of the cameras for the Green New Deal contingent.

$1T bipartisan infrastructure + $1.5T for green tech + social infrastructure is still A LOT of spending. I love to see it!

Yeah. I like this = the priority is physical infrastructure and addressing climate change and THAT'S IT. Fantastic. Take your welfare programs up in a separate bill on a separate vote instead of trying to hide it under CC and Infrastructure.

“Welfare programs.”

I don’t understand why some of you are so virulently opposed to economic progress. We have tried it the GOP way, for decades, and it was crazily successful for a small sliver of people and absolutely detrimental to others.

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Anonymous wrote:Manchin just cracked. He’s now set the stage to negotiate a deal on reconciliation. It will definitely come down a lot. I predict it lands somewhere between $2T-$2.5T. A lot of the climate stuff will get chucked or watered down. Both the BIF and reconciliation will pass by the end of October.

He didn't crack. He waved a contract he signed with Schumer THREE MONTHS AGO that stating the bill would be no more than $1.5 Trillion. Someone call AOC and tell her to purge her wish list and move on. She's been out-flanked by real politicians.

Schumer didn't lie, he just had to put on a dog & pony show in front of the cameras for the Green New Deal contingent.

$1T bipartisan infrastructure + $1.5T for green tech + social infrastructure is still A LOT of spending. I love to see it!

Yeah. I like this = the priority is physical infrastructure and addressing climate change and THAT'S IT. Fantastic. Take your welfare programs up in a separate bill on a separate vote instead of trying to hide it under CC and Infrastructure.

“Welfare programs.”

I don’t understand why some of you are so virulently opposed to economic progress. We have tried it the GOP way, for decades, and it was crazily successful for a small sliver of people and absolutely detrimental to others.

Economic progress? A free handout you mean. Meanwhile there's threads on the real estate forum snearing at the homeless because they'd dare appear in your eyesight while you enjoy a mall or a park.

Please. Prices are rising for the poorest in the aisles of the grocery stores nationwide because of these handouts. Enough.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/0/1004354.page

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Anonymous wrote:Manchin just cracked. He’s now set the stage to negotiate a deal on reconciliation. It will definitely come down a lot. I predict it lands somewhere between $2T-$2.5T. A lot of the climate stuff will get chucked or watered down. Both the BIF and reconciliation will pass by the end of October.

He didn't crack. He waved a contract he signed with Schumer THREE MONTHS AGO that stating the bill would be no more than $1.5 Trillion. Someone call AOC and tell her to purge her wish list and move on. She's been out-flanked by real politicians.

Schumer didn't lie, he just had to put on a dog & pony show in front of the cameras for the Green New Deal contingent.

$1T bipartisan infrastructure + $1.5T for green tech + social infrastructure is still A LOT of spending. I love to see it!

Yeah. I like this = the priority is physical infrastructure and addressing climate change and THAT'S IT. Fantastic. Take your welfare programs up in a separate bill on a separate vote instead of trying to hide it under CC and Infrastructure.

“Welfare programs.”

I don’t understand why some of you are so virulently opposed to economic progress. We have tried it the GOP way, for decades, and it was crazily successful for a small sliver of people and absolutely detrimental to others.

Economic progress? A free handout you mean. Meanwhile there's threads on the real estate forum snearing at the homeless because they'd dare appear in your eyesight while you enjoy a mall or a park.

Please. Prices are rising for the poorest in the aisles of the grocery stores nationwide because of these handouts. Enough.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/0/1004354.page

Oh are you in favor of getting rid of the carried interest loophole? How about Medicare?

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Anonymous wrote:Manchin just cracked. He’s now set the stage to negotiate a deal on reconciliation. It will definitely come down a lot. I predict it lands somewhere between $2T-$2.5T. A lot of the climate stuff will get chucked or watered down. Both the BIF and reconciliation will pass by the end of October.

He didn't crack. He waved a contract he signed with Schumer THREE MONTHS AGO that stating the bill would be no more than $1.5 Trillion. Someone call AOC and tell her to purge her wish list and move on. She's been out-flanked by real politicians.

Schumer didn't lie, he just had to put on a dog & pony show in front of the cameras for the Green New Deal contingent.

$1T bipartisan infrastructure + $1.5T for green tech + social infrastructure is still A LOT of spending. I love to see it!

Yeah. I like this = the priority is physical infrastructure and addressing climate change and THAT'S IT. Fantastic. Take your welfare programs up in a separate bill on a separate vote instead of trying to hide it under CC and Infrastructure.

“Welfare programs.”

I don’t understand why some of you are so virulently opposed to economic progress. We have tried it the GOP way, for decades, and it was crazily successful for a small sliver of people and absolutely detrimental to others.

Economic progress? A free handout you mean. Meanwhile there's threads on the real estate forum snearing at the homeless because they'd dare appear in your eyesight while you enjoy a mall or a park.

Please. Prices are rising for the poorest in the aisles of the grocery stores nationwide because of these handouts. Enough.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/0/1004354.page

Oh are you in favor of getting rid of the carried interest loophole? How about Medicare?

I'm in favor of keeping the programs as they are, shorting up support for things like Social Security and the ACA, and moving on. No wishlist items of half a dozen new programs the progressives threw in like we wouldn't notice they ballooned the cost of the programs by $2 Trillion.

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Anonymous wrote:Manchin just cracked. He’s now set the stage to negotiate a deal on reconciliation. It will definitely come down a lot. I predict it lands somewhere between $2T-$2.5T. A lot of the climate stuff will get chucked or watered down. Both the BIF and reconciliation will pass by the end of October.

He didn't crack. He waved a contract he signed with Schumer THREE MONTHS AGO that stating the bill would be no more than $1.5 Trillion. Someone call AOC and tell her to purge her wish list and move on. She's been out-flanked by real politicians.

It’s not a contract. It’s just manchins negotiating position. But it is very significant that he released it. Apparently not many people knew this existed, and his public statements for the last month or two have been very much at odds with this document. It’s a strong sign he’s willing to negotiate with the progs instead of engaging in a staring contest as they have for the past couple months. The progs will shoot down the BIF if they get nothing. But if the can get a couple trillion of their priorities, they’re going to take it even if they aren’t too happy about it.

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Anonymous wrote:Manchin just cracked. He’s now set the stage to negotiate a deal on reconciliation. It will definitely come down a lot. I predict it lands somewhere between $2T-$2.5T. A lot of the climate stuff will get chucked or watered down. Both the BIF and reconciliation will pass by the end of October.

He didn't crack. He waved a contract he signed with Schumer THREE MONTHS AGO that stating the bill would be no more than $1.5 Trillion. Someone call AOC and tell her to purge her wish list and move on. She's been out-flanked by real politicians.

Schumer didn't lie, he just had to put on a dog & pony show in front of the cameras for the Green New Deal contingent.

$1T bipartisan infrastructure + $1.5T for green tech + social infrastructure is still A LOT of spending. I love to see it!

Yeah. I like this = the priority is physical infrastructure and addressing climate change and THAT'S IT. Fantastic. Take your welfare programs up in a separate bill on a separate vote instead of trying to hide it under CC and Infrastructure.

“Welfare programs.”

I don’t understand why some of you are so virulently opposed to economic progress. We have tried it the GOP way, for decades, and it was crazily successful for a small sliver of people and absolutely detrimental to others.

Economic progress? A free handout you mean. Meanwhile there's threads on the real estate forum snearing at the homeless because they'd dare appear in your eyesight while you enjoy a mall or a park.

Please. Prices are rising for the poorest in the aisles of the grocery stores nationwide because of these handouts. Enough.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/0/1004354.page

Oh are you in favor of getting rid of the carried interest loophole? How about Medicare?

I'm in favor of keeping the programs as they are, shorting up support for things like Social Security and the ACA, and moving on. No wishlist items of half a dozen new programs the progressives threw in like we wouldn't notice they ballooned the cost of the programs by $2 Trillion.

Lol sure

[Anonymous]

I'd prefer to see the $3.5T package reduce proportionally down to the final number (whether that's $1.5T per Manchin's demand or some slightly higher number).

If anything, zero out the old age home-based care for Boomers and use that savings to add a bit more to green tech infrastructure which will pay much bigger dividends down the road.

IMHO, Congress will at some point need to deal with the aging Boomer population. But it doesn't need to happen now. And I'd rather see Republicans do some heavy lifting on it since it's going to be aging Red states that will disproportionately suck up that money. Zero it out!

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Anonymous wrote:Manchin just cracked. He’s now set the stage to negotiate a deal on reconciliation. It will definitely come down a lot. I predict it lands somewhere between $2T-$2.5T. A lot of the climate stuff will get chucked or watered down. Both the BIF and reconciliation will pass by the end of October.

He didn't crack. He waved a contract he signed with Schumer THREE MONTHS AGO that stating the bill would be no more than $1.5 Trillion. Someone call AOC and tell her to purge her wish list and move on. She's been out-flanked by real politicians.

Schumer didn't lie, he just had to put on a dog & pony show in front of the cameras for the Green New Deal contingent.

$1T bipartisan infrastructure + $1.5T for green tech + social infrastructure is still A LOT of spending. I love to see it!

Yeah. I like this = the priority is physical infrastructure and addressing climate change and THAT'S IT. Fantastic. Take your welfare programs up in a separate bill on a separate vote instead of trying to hide it under CC and Infrastructure.

“Welfare programs.”

I don’t understand why some of you are so virulently opposed to economic progress. We have tried it the GOP way, for decades, and it was crazily successful for a small sliver of people and absolutely detrimental to others.

Economic progress? A free handout you mean. Meanwhile there's threads on the real estate forum snearing at the homeless because they'd dare appear in your eyesight while you enjoy a mall or a park.

Please. Prices are rising for the poorest in the aisles of the grocery stores nationwide because of these handouts. Enough.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/0/1004354.page

Oh are you in favor of getting rid of the carried interest loophole? How about Medicare?

I'm in favor of keeping the programs as they are, shorting up support for things like Social Security and the ACA, and moving on. No wishlist items of half a dozen new programs the progressives threw in like we wouldn't notice they ballooned the cost of the programs by $2 Trillion.

His position is - he came up from $0 to $1.5 Trillion and Schumer agreed. He's not going any higher. As the New Democrat Coalition stated - 'Time to start dicing and slicing'

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Anonymous wrote:Manchin just cracked. He’s now set the stage to negotiate a deal on reconciliation. It will definitely come down a lot. I predict it lands somewhere between $2T-$2.5T. A lot of the climate stuff will get chucked or watered down. Both the BIF and reconciliation will pass by the end of October.

He didn't crack. He waved a contract he signed with Schumer THREE MONTHS AGO that stating the bill would be no more than $1.5 Trillion. Someone call AOC and tell her to purge her wish list and move on. She's been out-flanked by real politicians.

Schumer didn't lie, he just had to put on a dog & pony show in front of the cameras for the Green New Deal contingent.

$1T bipartisan infrastructure + $1.5T for green tech + social infrastructure is still A LOT of spending. I love to see it!

Yeah. I like this = the priority is physical infrastructure and addressing climate change and THAT'S IT. Fantastic. Take your welfare programs up in a separate bill on a separate vote instead of trying to hide it under CC and Infrastructure.

“Welfare programs.”

I don’t understand why some of you are so virulently opposed to economic progress. We have tried it the GOP way, for decades, and it was crazily successful for a small sliver of people and absolutely detrimental to others.

Economic progress? A free handout you mean. Meanwhile there's threads on the real estate forum snearing at the homeless because they'd dare appear in your eyesight while you enjoy a mall or a park.

Please. Prices are rising for the poorest in the aisles of the grocery stores nationwide because of these handouts. Enough.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/0/1004354.page

Oh are you in favor of getting rid of the carried interest loophole? How about Medicare?

I'm in favor of keeping the programs as they are, shorting up support for things like Social Security and the ACA, and moving on. No wishlist items of half a dozen new programs the progressives threw in like we wouldn't notice they ballooned the cost of the programs by $2 Trillion.

Why are you in favor of the radical socialist programs like social security, Medicare and the ACA?

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Anonymous wrote:Manchin just cracked. He’s now set the stage to negotiate a deal on reconciliation. It will definitely come down a lot. I predict it lands somewhere between $2T-$2.5T. A lot of the climate stuff will get chucked or watered down. Both the BIF and reconciliation will pass by the end of October.

He didn't crack. He waved a contract he signed with Schumer THREE MONTHS AGO that stating the bill would be no more than $1.5 Trillion. Someone call AOC and tell her to purge her wish list and move on. She's been out-flanked by real politicians.

Schumer didn't lie, he just had to put on a dog & pony show in front of the cameras for the Green New Deal contingent.

$1T bipartisan infrastructure + $1.5T for green tech + social infrastructure is still A LOT of spending. I love to see it!

Yeah. I like this = the priority is physical infrastructure and addressing climate change and THAT'S IT. Fantastic. Take your welfare programs up in a separate bill on a separate vote instead of trying to hide it under CC and Infrastructure.

“Welfare programs.”

I don’t understand why some of you are so virulently opposed to economic progress. We have tried it the GOP way, for decades, and it was crazily successful for a small sliver of people and absolutely detrimental to others.

Economic progress? A free handout you mean. Meanwhile there's threads on the real estate forum snearing at the homeless because they'd dare appear in your eyesight while you enjoy a mall or a park.

Please. Prices are rising for the poorest in the aisles of the grocery stores nationwide because of these handouts. Enough.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/0/1004354.page

Oh are you in favor of getting rid of the carried interest loophole? How about Medicare?

I'm in favor of keeping the programs as they are, shorting up support for things like Social Security and the ACA, and moving on. No wishlist items of half a dozen new programs the progressives threw in like we wouldn't notice they ballooned the cost of the programs by $2 Trillion.

Why are you in favor of the radical socialist programs like social security, Medicare and the ACA?

You mean the ones that already exist and are currently so low on funds that they may not be solvent?

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Anonymous wrote:Manchin just cracked. He’s now set the stage to negotiate a deal on reconciliation. It will definitely come down a lot. I predict it lands somewhere between $2T-$2.5T. A lot of the climate stuff will get chucked or watered down. Both the BIF and reconciliation will pass by the end of October.

He didn't crack. He waved a contract he signed with Schumer THREE MONTHS AGO that stating the bill would be no more than $1.5 Trillion. Someone call AOC and tell her to purge her wish list and move on. She's been out-flanked by real politicians.

Schumer didn't lie, he just had to put on a dog & pony show in front of the cameras for the Green New Deal contingent.

$1T bipartisan infrastructure + $1.5T for green tech + social infrastructure is still A LOT of spending. I love to see it!

Yeah. I like this = the priority is physical infrastructure and addressing climate change and THAT'S IT. Fantastic. Take your welfare programs up in a separate bill on a separate vote instead of trying to hide it under CC and Infrastructure.

“Welfare programs.”

I don’t understand why some of you are so virulently opposed to economic progress. We have tried it the GOP way, for decades, and it was crazily successful for a small sliver of people and absolutely detrimental to others.

Economic progress? A free handout you mean. Meanwhile there's threads on the real estate forum snearing at the homeless because they'd dare appear in your eyesight while you enjoy a mall or a park.

Please. Prices are rising for the poorest in the aisles of the grocery stores nationwide because of these handouts. Enough.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/0/1004354.page

Oh are you in favor of getting rid of the carried interest loophole? How about Medicare?

I'm in favor of keeping the programs as they are, shorting up support for things like Social Security and the ACA, and moving on. No wishlist items of half a dozen new programs the progressives threw in like we wouldn't notice they ballooned the cost of the programs by $2 Trillion.

Why are you in favor of the radical socialist programs like social security, Medicare and the ACA?

You mean the ones that already exist and are currently so low on funds that they may not be solvent?

Yes, those. Why are you in favor of those?