Will Manchin and Sinema crack?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone sounds bitter

What an absolute lunatic.

52-48 wins. Why on earth didn't the Democratic strategy revolve around gaining the support of the two senators they knew would be decisive?

They thought they could steamroll them and found out the hard way that they can't. They look like fools because they are fools.

Fascism is lunacy, but here you are plumping for it.

Two tweets from the voting thread:

First, they did coddle the two dumb cluck Democrats. Second, regarding majorities and voting:

It is literally insane that you defend this in the context of how many people are having their voting power diluted:

I don't know why this is suddenly the Dems wet-dream, disenfranchising the areas of the country with a smaller population, but its distasteful. Your household has 11 people in it and mine has 4, therefore your 11 makes the decisions for the next 25 years? Not how this country works.

[Anonymous]

The population imbalance is only going to get worse. Rural states will send ever-more radical Senators to Washington. The federal government will eventually grind to a halt as Senate will refuse to confirm any appointee during a Democratic administration.

This is going to get insane.

[Anonymous]

The fact that so many on this forum do not understand that the structure of this country was set up as a republic and not a democracy is troubling. We have a House that represents the population. California has much more representation than Alaska. It is about balancing. Otherwise, only the large metropolitan cities: especiallly NYC, LA, and Chicago would be making deisions for all of us.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The population imbalance is only going to get worse. Rural states will send ever-more radical Senators to Washington. The federal government will eventually grind to a halt as Senate will refuse to confirm any appointee during a Democratic administration.

This is going to get insane.

I thought remote work was encouraging empty cities and everyone was moving to LCOL states?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The fact that so many on this forum do not understand that the structure of this country was set up as a republic and not a democracy is troubling. We have a House that represents the population. California has much more representation than Alaska. It is about balancing. Otherwise, only the large metropolitan cities: especiallly NYC, LA, and Chicago would be making deisions for all of us.

I agree with this in concept although something like a Trump bothers me. I see the opposite happening in India, for example, where the majority party decides everything. The Southern states (plus a couple of western states) have a minority in terms of population essentially fund the rest of the country and yet are marginalized when it comes to policies, language, etc. We don't want something like that happening here... nor do we want a President elected based on a minority vote (as Trump would have if he had won).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The fact that so many on this forum do not understand that the structure of this country was set up as a republic and not a democracy is troubling. We have a House that represents the population. California has much more representation than Alaska. It is about balancing. Otherwise, only the large metropolitan cities: especiallly NYC, LA, and Chicago would be making deisions for all of us.

A republic is a form of a democracy, you ninny.

I really hate this anti-democracy line of argument that has infected American conservatives. It just belies the fact that they think certain people shouldn't have full rights - both de facto and de jure - in the United States. It also gives our authoritarian enemies a huge opening to paint the US as no better than China, Russia, etc where the will of the people is thwarted by elites.

Just be honest and say what you really mean.

[Anonymous]

Ari Berman is an idiot. You think that every person in the states that those people represent are supportive of a voting rules bill that federalizes elections?
We saw the same sorry argument about the BBB bill and polling showed it wasn't near as popular as the Democrats claimed.

And, after last night, I wouldn't be at all surprised if more people in the districts that Kelly, Hassan, Bennet, Warnock, and Masto choose to vote for someone other than their Democratic Senator currently representing them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The fact that so many on this forum do not understand that the structure of this country was set up as a republic and not a democracy is troubling. We have a House that represents the population. California has much more representation than Alaska. It is about balancing. Otherwise, only the large metropolitan cities: especiallly NYC, LA, and Chicago would be making deisions for all of us.

A republic is a form of a democracy, you ninny.

I really hate this anti-democracy line of argument that has infected American conservatives. It just belies the fact that they think certain people shouldn't have full rights - both de facto and de jure - in the United States. It also gives our authoritarian enemies a huge opening to paint the US as no better than China, Russia, etc where the will of the people is thwarted by elites.

Just be honest and say what you really mean.

THIS.

McConnell point blank said that Black citizens aren’t American in the eyes of the GOP.

And then there’s this hitheel.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The fact that so many on this forum do not understand that the structure of this country was set up as a republic and not a democracy is troubling. We have a House that represents the population. California has much more representation than Alaska. It is about balancing. Otherwise, only the large metropolitan cities: especiallly NYC, LA, and Chicago would be making deisions for all of us.

A republic is a form of a democracy, you ninny.

I really hate this anti-democracy line of argument that has infected American conservatives. It just belies the fact that they think certain people shouldn't have full rights - both de facto and de jure - in the United States. It also gives our authoritarian enemies a huge opening to paint the US as no better than China, Russia, etc where the will of the people is thwarted by elites.

Just be honest and say what you really mean.

THIS.

McConnell point blank said that Black citizens aren’t American in the eyes of the GOP.

And then there’s this hitheel.

Maybe Biden should have been paying attention to that polling on inflation, economy, supply chain crisis etc. Of course maybe he still won't.

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Just one year late... and probably too late.

It is February now, of an election year, with a supreme court nomination at the top of the to-do list and a major international crisis brewing in Europe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

And now Manchin owns any failure to pass some form of BBB. He has the pen, he can set the priorities. If it’s so easy to put together a bill with bipartisan support, he should have this done quickly, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone sounds bitter

What an absolute lunatic.

52-48 wins. Why on earth didn't the Democratic strategy revolve around gaining the support of the two senators they knew would be decisive?

They thought they could steamroll them and found out the hard way that they can't. They look like fools because they are fools.

Fascism is lunacy, but here you are plumping for it.

Two tweets from the voting thread:

First, they did coddle the two dumb cluck Democrats. Second, regarding majorities and voting:

It is literally insane that you defend this in the context of how many people are having their voting power diluted:

I don't know why this is suddenly the Dems wet-dream, disenfranchising the areas of the country with a smaller population, but its distasteful. Your household has 11 people in it and mine has 4, therefore your 11 makes the decisions for the next 25 years? Not how this country works.

What kinda backassward logic is that? YOU are the minority who is disenfranchising the MAJORITY.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

And now Manchin owns any failure to pass some form of BBB. He has the pen, he can set the priorities. If it’s so easy to put together a bill with bipartisan support, he should have this done quickly, right?

They are calling Joe's bluff by giving him the pen.

And if Joe doesn't quickly put that pen to paper and do something solid and meaningful to help fix the damage he's done in the form of a sound, solid meaningful revised BBB bill that he, Sinema, the Democrats, and 10 Republicans he previously promised are willing to pass, then that's the final incontrovertible evidence that he has NOT acted in good faith.

Tick tock Joe. If he screws this up I think Dems should abandon him and focus all their money and energies on flippable red Senate seats like PA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The fact that so many on this forum do not understand that the structure of this country was set up as a republic and not a democracy is troubling. We have a House that represents the population. California has much more representation than Alaska. It is about balancing. Otherwise, only the large metropolitan cities: especiallly NYC, LA, and Chicago would be making deisions for all of us.

A republic is a form of a democracy, you ninny.

I really hate this anti-democracy line of argument that has infected American conservatives. It just belies the fact that they think certain people shouldn't have full rights - both de facto and de jure - in the United States. It also gives our authoritarian enemies a huge opening to paint the US as no better than China, Russia, etc where the will of the people is thwarted by elites.

Just be honest and say what you really mean.

THIS.

McConnell point blank said that Black citizens aren’t American in the eyes of the GOP.

And then there’s this hitheel.

Maybe Biden should have been paying attention to that polling on inflation, economy, supply chain crisis etc. Of course maybe he still won't.

Funny. For the last 4 years of bad Trump polling you all said "fake news, the polls are fake and even if they were true it doesn't mean anything."