Will Manchin and Sinema crack?

[Anonymous]

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Economic progress? A free handout you mean. Meanwhile there's threads on the real estate forum snearing at the homeless because they'd dare appear in your eyesight while you enjoy a mall or a park.

Please. Prices are rising for the poorest in the aisles of the grocery stores nationwide because of these handouts. Enough.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/0/1004354.page

You have been brainwashed.

The handout have been going to the defense contractors and billionaires who profit off US infrastructure but don't pay their portion of the bill. That is disproportionately falling to the middle and lower classes (yes the lower classes who don't pay income tax but still pay other federal fees) and the "oligarchs" have you mad at the people below you rather than the people above you who are raping th system and US treasury.

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Anonymous wrote:Manchin just cracked. He’s now set the stage to negotiate a deal on reconciliation. It will definitely come down a lot. I predict it lands somewhere between $2T-$2.5T. A lot of the climate stuff will get chucked or watered down. Both the BIF and reconciliation will pass by the end of October.

He didn't crack. He waved a contract he signed with Schumer THREE MONTHS AGO that stating the bill would be no more than $1.5 Trillion. Someone call AOC and tell her to purge her wish list and move on. She's been out-flanked by real politicians.

That isn’t a contract. It’s a performative nothing. He signed that he doesn’t guarantee he will vote for anything above that. He felt he needed this performative gesture to vote to proceed back then. Thank god the rest of the Democratic Caucus are not such drama queens demanding to write their own budgets. His objections are just contrarianism, not ideological or principled, and not shared by his colleagues. He’s just performing for his ego.

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Anonymous wrote:Manchin just cracked. He’s now set the stage to negotiate a deal on reconciliation. It will definitely come down a lot. I predict it lands somewhere between $2T-$2.5T. A lot of the climate stuff will get chucked or watered down. Both the BIF and reconciliation will pass by the end of October.

He didn't crack. He waved a contract he signed with Schumer THREE MONTHS AGO that stating the bill would be no more than $1.5 Trillion. Someone call AOC and tell her to purge her wish list and move on. She's been out-flanked by real politicians.

That isn’t a contract. It’s a performative nothing. He signed that he doesn’t guarantee he will vote for anything above that. He felt he needed this performative gesture to vote to proceed back then. Thank god the rest of the Democratic Caucus are not such drama queens demanding to write their own budgets. His objections are just contrarianism, not ideological or principled, and not shared by his colleagues. He’s just performing for his ego.

That's a lot of performative talk for 'I don't know what Manchin's going to do next but I know what he's NOT going to do - vote for a $3.5 Trillion wishlist'.

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I LOVE seeing Schumer's signature, big and bold, on that contract. Hey Progressives - I'm guessing you were just blind cocked. Had no idea it existed did you?

Better go start sleeping outside the office of the Senate Majority Leader.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yep and Manchin basically said the reality. He said he isn't a liberal and that if the rest of his party wants to some items in the bill, they will need to get more liberals elected. GAME ON. He is taking on the hard left and it will be interesting to see who wins. I think Manchin is likely to win. He is offering moderate democrats a person to rally behind and I think some will take it.

+1 so glad

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Anonymous wrote:Manchin just cracked. He’s now set the stage to negotiate a deal on reconciliation. It will definitely come down a lot. I predict it lands somewhere between $2T-$2.5T. A lot of the climate stuff will get chucked or watered down. Both the BIF and reconciliation will pass by the end of October.

He didn't crack. He waved a contract he signed with Schumer THREE MONTHS AGO that stating the bill would be no more than $1.5 Trillion. Someone call AOC and tell her to purge her wish list and move on. She's been out-flanked by real politicians.

That isn’t a contract. It’s a performative nothing. He signed that he doesn’t guarantee he will vote for anything above that. He felt he needed this performative gesture to vote to proceed back then. Thank god the rest of the Democratic Caucus are not such drama queens demanding to write their own budgets. His objections are just contrarianism, not ideological or principled, and not shared by his colleagues. He’s just performing for his ego.

That's a lot of performative talk for 'I don't know what Manchin's going to do next but I know what he's NOT going to do - vote for a $3.5 Trillion wishlist'.

+1 👍

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yep and Manchin basically said the reality. He said he isn't a liberal and that if the rest of his party wants to some items in the bill, they will need to get more liberals elected. GAME ON. He is taking on the hard left and it will be interesting to see who wins. I think Manchin is likely to win. He is offering moderate democrats a person to rally behind and I think some will take it.

+1 so glad

Yep, let's go. Time to bring some normalcy back to the party.

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Anonymous wrote:The liberals on this board don't understand that this nation is not far left like many here. You seem to think this is something the nation wants, It isn't.

If it were, Bernie Sanders would be occupying the oval office.

“Conservatives” like you do not understand how disgusted the nation is with your sh#t. No wants what you are pushing. If we did trump would be occupying the Oval Office.

Dem here - I would have done anything to get Trump out of office but Covid is why I and so many others rose up. Not to vote for rising inflation.

Inflation, Crime, and Afghanistan will destroy the Democrats in 2022. Sprinkle in some Critical Race Theory to add fuel to the fire.

A - the crime wave happened in 2020, guess who was president then?

B - Inflation, I agree with. No one wants to go to the store and pay $5 for milk and $7 for eggs. The House needs to wake up. We asked for Covid action, climate change polices, physical infrastructure, and protection for ACA/RoevWade. That's it.

C - Enough about Afghanistan. Four presidencies wanted out, we're out.

A - and the crime wave has no doubt been made far worse by Democratic led cities defunding police departments and liberal prosecutors opting not to prosecute crime.

And, as for Afghanistan....No, not enough already. Biden f'ed it up and we won't let people forget it. Thirteen service members didn't need to die and 10 innocents didn't need to be sacrificed because of the ineptitude of this administration and the decisions that were made. It is criminal, IMO.

Be truthful about Afghanistan. Do you think Trump could have gotten so many people out with no casualties? That Trump could have avoided a suicide attack? Because I was a fed under Trump and saying logistics were not his strong unit is amassing understatement.

I don't think we would have withdrawn so rapidly. And, I am ok with that. We would still be there today because the Taliban had not met the conditions.
We have had Afghan allies, journalists, and others beheaded and assassinated in front of their families.

The US will be hard pressed to have trust restored after this debacle.

That’s not what Trump said when Biden extended Trump’s deadline. But sure, Trump would have stayed and risked American lives to protect the Muslims in Afghanistan.

Remind me again what happened to the Kurds?

Again, Trump is not president.

The PP is responding to an assertion Trump would have done better with leaving Afghanistan.

Difference is you are speculating as to what Trump would do. We know what Biden did.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I LOVE seeing Schumer's signature, big and bold, on that contract. Hey Progressives - I'm guessing you were just blind cocked. Had no idea it existed did you?

Better go start sleeping outside the office of the Senate Majority Leader.

What did Schumer promise to do in this “contract”?

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Anonymous wrote:I LOVE seeing Schumer's signature, big and bold, on that contract. Hey Progressives - I'm guessing you were just blind cocked. Had no idea it existed did you?

Better go start sleeping outside the office of the Senate Majority Leader.

What did Schumer promise to do in this “contract”?

Don't know.

But we do know that Schumer has spent the past 3 months misleading his party and the American people on what he knew.....
Typical Schumer.

Glad Manchin has this in writing, with signatures and dated.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Manchin just cracked. He’s now set the stage to negotiate a deal on reconciliation. It will definitely come down a lot. I predict it lands somewhere between $2T-$2.5T. A lot of the climate stuff will get chucked or watered down. Both the BIF and reconciliation will pass by the end of October.

He didn't crack. He waved a contract he signed with Schumer THREE MONTHS AGO that stating the bill would be no more than $1.5 Trillion. Someone call AOC and tell her to purge her wish list and move on. She's been out-flanked by real politicians.

Schumer didn't lie, he just had to put on a dog & pony show in front of the cameras for the Green New Deal contingent.

$1T bipartisan infrastructure + $1.5T for green tech + social infrastructure is still A LOT of spending. I love to see it!

Yeah. I like this = the priority is physical infrastructure and addressing climate change and THAT'S IT. Fantastic. Take your welfare programs up in a separate bill on a separate vote instead of trying to hide it under CC and Infrastructure.

“Welfare programs.”

I don’t understand why some of you are so virulently opposed to economic progress. We have tried it the GOP way, for decades, and it was crazily successful for a small sliver of people and absolutely detrimental to others.

Because my taxes go up and I don’t get any of the benefits!!!! That’s why!

[Anonymous]

This is why we need Citizens United abolished. Until then no progress will happen in this country. Politicians can be bought.

[Anonymous]

Manchin won't budge. It's not in his DNA. He doesn't care what others think of him. End of story.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I LOVE seeing Schumer's signature, big and bold, on that contract. Hey Progressives - I'm guessing you were just blind cocked. Had no idea it existed did you?

Better go start sleeping outside the office of the Senate Majority Leader.

What did Schumer promise to do in this “contract”?

Don't know.

But we do know that Schumer has spent the past 3 months misleading his party and the American people on what he knew.....
Typical Schumer.

Glad Manchin has this in writing, with signatures and dated.

This is a “contract” and you can’t tell me what the promise is?

[Anonymous]

Love it.