That's because what is considered beautiful is different. Frankly the k pop hotties look like oversexualized children. Being cutesy is also attractive,urghed. Lucy Liu would not be considered beautiful in Asia but she is very attractive. So the whole marrying "busted" Asian women is just a fallacy, notions of beauty is different. |
Considering Asian men have a hard time with women of all races in America (be it right or wrong), sounds like your husband has a case of sour grapes. |
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For a researcher, you make a lot of shocking and heavily biased assumptions. It's an important reminder that "research" can find anything the researchers want to find. There are a lot of factors that go into attraction. One that you're oblivious to is acceptance by a potential partner's family. I'm an AA woman happily married to an AA man for 10 years now, but I've dated enough white men (and yes, I found them attractive!) to know without reservation that I wouldn't want to be married to one. For me, it all boils down to levels of understanding and acceptance I can expect from a partner AND his family. When you make that a numbers game, it gives finding a good match among white men an extremely low score. I'm thinking back on all these white guys I dated and, with the exception of one, in each case, either the guy or his mother made it clear to me early in the relationship that there would be no marriage. (For some reason, their dads were always cool with it. Hmm.) I'm not sure if you can comprehend how insulting it is for someone to bring this up while you're still trying to determine if you want to go on another date. I can think of four men, all Jewish, who told me this by the second date. None of them got a third, though ironically, these are the ones who pursued me the hardest. You can call me a racist if you want, but my self-esteem and my preference took a hard turn against anything long term with a white guy based on that personal experience. Just check the Family Relationships forum if you want a little taste of the kind of drama in-laws can place on a marriage. pffft. I don't need it and I don't blame any black woman who'd rather stay single than put up with it. So when I read your hypothesis on why more Asian women are married to white men, the first thing that came to mind is that their families are more often accepting of and even encourage their daughters to marry white men. It opens up their mating pool quite a bit. And white guys are way more understanding and accepting of cultural differences with Asians than they are with black people. Even while they're holding, but ignoring, their own biases (assumptions) about those differences. Maybe there's some research you can dig up that proves stereotypes about Asian women are mostly positive, while they're most negative for black women. Or you can just re-read your own post. |
I am the one arguing with PP and making the point about the numbers not being in black women's favor. Don't bring in racist bullshit under the guise of agreeing with me. You sound like a racist white bitch. |
My husband doesn't comment on women's looks. My ex boyfriend and his friends did. I am sure they are still partying and dating hot Asian girls in NYC. |
This whole conversation is interesting. My mom is a black women and my dad is of another race--guess that made them pioneers 40+ years ago when they got married. ![]() I commented upthread that I attended an HBCU and that most of AA female college friends are still not married in their late 30s, despite being accomplished, attractive, etc. I agree with the statistician that there are far more educated and eligible AA women than men. Not impossible for educated AA women to get married but the numbers makes it a little less likely since most of us seem to want to hold out for AA men. In contrast, AA men are *not* holding out for AA women-- just being real--and instead will date a range of other races in addition to black women. I agree that due to cultural differences black woman and white men may not always be a good match-- for example, many of my AA female friends attend church regularly and would describe spirituality as being important in their lives, whereas I don't know many white men in the same age group for whom the same characteristics would apply. However, I still for one think that more AA women who would like to be married one day should at least be *open* to The idea of interracial dating, if only to increase their chances of finding a good match even if they still ultimately end up with a black man. My two cents. FWIW, I'm married to an African guy, and of my few married AA female friends, they are married to mostly AA men but also Swedish, Middle Eastern, etc. |
10:35 again-- excuse typos (voice recognition). |
I'm the PP who posted about dating white men but married AA. I look at it this way: people have all kinds of preferences about who they will date or mate, but it feels like the preferences of black women are the ones most open to criticism from all sides. Just as with the hairstyle I choose (chemically straightened, with no qualms) I'm not making any kind of statement, just exercising my choice. But there's always criticism from some quarter, which people feel free to discuss with me in a way that they'd never bring up with a person of another race or gender. Reading this thread, I find myself a little disgusted in a way I've never been before by what seems to be a notion that black women should be willing to date and marry a white man for no other reason than desperation to be married. My father forbid it (though I never cared much what he said) but for the first time I'm understanding what he must have felt that a white guy would believe himself a catch no matter what his character as a person. Best to be avoided than find out after marriage and kids. But the bottom line is that I chose what was best for me and I think it's rather uncivilized to open up MY CHOICE for public critique and debate. My husband is an excellent husband and father who respects and understands me better than anyone. He can be annoying but not in any way that overshadows his best qualities. He's pretty damned lucky to have me as well and makes sure that I know he knows it. |
Thank you. This thread in this topic is tired and infuriating. You said it in a way I couldn't. I don't tell people who to date/marry. If my friends want to be in relationships with non black then that i their choice. Don't tell me I'm wrong or racists or that I must be open to xyz for not wanting to marry someone non black. |
Um, whatever. Let them be picky. If someone is gonna end up robbing you of your years as we've seen in other threads, he better be someone worth it. Take it from experience. when my ex proposed, he told me I was out of his league. I should have listened. That loser was not worth it. And I should have been picky. So, I say, if they're as gorgeous and as accomplished as you say, let them choose men good enough for them. No need to downgrade. |
more white women should marry black men and have mixed babies - mixed babies are super cute ! |
![]() This sounded good in your head didn't it? Good grief! |
I'm a single AA woman, for now anyway. I've dated every race and religion it seems, but my guess is I will marry an AA man. 90% of the black men I know who are married to AA women and had a preference for such. While I do wish more of my fellow sistas would consider dating other races, it's really isn't difficult to meet a decent brotha willing to marry. I do think it becomes more of a challenge as you age because people to marry off in their late 20s/early 30s. But that's an issue across racial lines.
I have never sought out men of other races, but I was always open to it. I didn't think that I would have anything in common with the first white guy I dated, but didn't have a compelling reason to say no. We ended up hitting it off really well, and I kinda freaked out about it. He wanted to be exclusive and I just wasn't ready at the time. His stepmother seemed phony and really interested in my pedigree, which I found offputting, and his dad seemed proud that he pulled a black girl. He was a great guy, pretty naive though. He overshared, because he was excited that his parents seemed so interested in me. So yeah, that was a turnoff. We eventually stopped talking after 4 months because I avoided commitment. I have evolved since then and have dated enough to know that men are men. I'm an older millineal and have noticed a difference in my gfs who are young Gen Xers vs my late 20 something friends. Most of us millineals have dated nonblack men at some point while those over 35 usually haven't. Most of my friends are married to brothas, regardless of who they've dated in the past, because that's primarily who we meet. I get approached by other men of color often, and white men maybe 4-5 times a year, but meet professional black men everywhere. |
Then sounds like your ex boyfriend and his friends have a case of the sour grapes. Yup, if girls with heavy eyeliner are considered 'hot'. What a stupid assertion, asian girls who date asian guys are hot and everyone else is busted. you sound ridiculous. |