Minority women who struggle with dating...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

https://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/race-attraction-2009-2014/

PP statistician here. It has actually been shown repeatedly that men rate women's attractiveness according to which women they think are likely to find them attractive. With African American women's repulsion for men of other races being well known, this explains much of their low attractiveness scores based on ratings by men.

Here's a cool finding (or at least I think it's cool): When we told men in advance that all the African American women in a given pool were very interested in interracial dating, virtually all of the differences in how men rated African American women versus other women disappeared.

Men are very worried about barking up the wrong tree and being harshly rebuffed.

I love this, and think it's true.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^I worked on a research project on interracial dating using OK Cupid and Match data. The results, which were released to the media and highly publicized, actually revealed that Asian women are more likely than women of other races to seek out men outside their race, primarily white men. This was measured by looking at how often Asian women initiated interactions and also followed up. They showed far more preference for white men than white men showed for them, and also showed more preference for Hispanic men than Hispanic men showed for them.

All in all, Asian women's success in the dating field is a consequence of smart dating, as opposed to men finding them more attractive. White men are both the most successful men in America and the most numerous men in America. Asian women are playing the numbers very wisely, unlike African American women who continue to act as if dating a white man is a capital offense. It is staggering how many perpetually single African American women I know who are approached by white men, but would rather die single waiting for African American men. They are simply not being rational about their own interests.

Here's an interesting and true stat: If even 5 percent of white men are interested in African American women, that is enough to get every single African American woman under age 44 married. And I can say from research and personal observation that far more than 5 percent of white men are interested in African American women.

Some of us don't want to be married to white people. Not all of us ar impressed by whiteness. Not al of us will marry anyone just to get married. I'm okay with being single the rest of my life I do not want a white husband.

PP statistician here. Oh, I know. Your attitude is in the majority among African American women. I can't say I understand it, but I'm a white man so I don't think we're that bad.

I have an attitude becaus eI don't want to marry a white man? I must think white people are bad because I don't want to marry a white person?

Lol.

Nice try at the guilt. victim card. You have been taught your entire life that you are the epitome of greatness and what everyone should aspire to be and your hurt when someone ay they don't want you.

We don't you dates, marriage or even our time. You don't own us as women or as a race.

PP statistician here. I meant attitude as in your stance, your opinion. I didn't mean the slang sense of having "an attitude." Anyway, I'm not here to convince you not to be single and childless all of your life. That is your business.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I don't consider singleness a penalty, and I would hardly be alone. There are plenty of option for black women who want to marry black men. Plenty. Those who say they aren't tend to be the type who are picky. I don't mean picky in a good way I mean the kind of picky where they would excuse a white man for having the same traits they'd find fault in a black man.

This is actually provably false. There are not nearly enough educated black men for all educated black women. Unless you think wanting someone of equal education is "picky."

If you choose to believe the myths perpetuated by fact that's fine. If you want to marry a white man go on and do you. I will not be joining you.

I am not a black woman and these aren't myths. Do you understand numbers? If there are x number of educated black men and y number of educated black women and x is less than y, plus x is made even less because some men are gay/unemployed/not interested in marriage, then there are going to be many unmarried educated black women. That is what you are seeing.

Don't talk down to me dear.
Trust and believe I'd run circles around you when it comes to education.
I understand the numbers that you believe, but it's not reality to say an educated black woman cannot have an educated black man.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

https://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/race-attraction-2009-2014/

PP statistician here. It has actually been shown repeatedly that men rate women's attractiveness according to which women they think are likely to find them attractive. With African American women's repulsion for men of other races being well known, this explains much of their low attractiveness scores based on ratings by men.

Here's a cool finding (or at least I think it's cool): When we told men in advance that all the African American women in a given pool were very interested in interracial dating, virtually all of the differences in how men rated African American women versus other women disappeared.

Men are very worried about barking up the wrong tree and being harshly rebuffed.

I love this, and think it's true.

Yes. Let's ignore that BLack women have long been portrayed as being unattractive in all of this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

https://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/race-attraction-2009-2014/

PP statistician here. It has actually been shown repeatedly that men rate women's attractiveness according to which women they think are likely to find them attractive. With African American women's repulsion for men of other races being well known, this explains much of their low attractiveness scores based on ratings by men.

Here's a cool finding (or at least I think it's cool): When we told men in advance that all the African American women in a given pool were very interested in interracial dating, virtually all of the differences in how men rated African American women versus other women disappeared.

Men are very worried about barking up the wrong tree and being harshly rebuffed.

I love this, and think it's true.

Yes. Let's ignore that BLack women have long been portrayed as being unattractive in all of this.

PP statistician here. If you think I am trying to blame black women for anything, you are wrong. I am simply sharing some of my work that is relevant here. I don't think anyone should date who they don't want. There are consequences to racialized dating, but accepting those consequences is your right.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I don't consider singleness a penalty, and I would hardly be alone. There are plenty of option for black women who want to marry black men. Plenty. Those who say they aren't tend to be the type who are picky. I don't mean picky in a good way I mean the kind of picky where they would excuse a white man for having the same traits they'd find fault in a black man.

This is actually provably false. There are not nearly enough educated black men for all educated black women. Unless you think wanting someone of equal education is "picky."

If you choose to believe the myths perpetuated by fact that's fine. If you want to marry a white man go on and do you. I will not be joining you.

I am not a black woman and these aren't myths. Do you understand numbers? If there are x number of educated black men and y number of educated black women and x is less than y, plus x is made even less because some men are gay/unemployed/not interested in marriage, then there are going to be many unmarried educated black women. That is what you are seeing.

Don't talk down to me dear.
Trust and believe I'd run circles around you when it comes to education.
I understand the numbers that you believe, but it's not reality to say an educated black woman cannot have an educated black man.

For someone who will run circles around others, you seem to be having a hard time understanding basic concepts. The point is not that an educated black woman cannot have an educated black man. It is that the way things stand, it is numically impossible for every educated black woman to have an educated black man.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^I worked on a research project on interracial dating using OK Cupid and Match data. The results, which were released to the media and highly publicized, actually revealed that Asian women are more likely than women of other races to seek out men outside their race, primarily white men. This was measured by looking at how often Asian women initiated interactions and also followed up. They showed far more preference for white men than white men showed for them, and also showed more preference for Hispanic men than Hispanic men showed for them.

All in all, Asian women's success in the dating field is a consequence of smart dating, as opposed to men finding them more attractive. White men are both the most successful men in America and the most numerous men in America. Asian women are playing the numbers very wisely, unlike African American women who continue to act as if dating a white man is a capital offense. It is staggering how many perpetually single African American women I know who are approached by white men, but would rather die single waiting for African American men. They are simply not being rational about their own interests.

Here's an interesting and true stat: If even 5 percent of white men are interested in African American women, that is enough to get every single African American woman under age 44 married. And I can say from research and personal observation that far more than 5 percent of white men are interested in African American women.

frankly, its probably they are regarded as attractive AND they are open to dating outside their race.

Okay, Asian woman, you can believe you are more attractive if you want.

not an asian women and I don't find them physically attractive (I like having them as friends though) but asian women on average don't get fat like the average white woman does. And their skin stays softer and smoother for longer (which even hot white women lose at 28).

So yes I can definitely see why my fellow guys think asian women are 'more' attractive. it's relative - for the 'league' that they can pull, it could very well be that in that tier, asian women are the prettiest. Think of all your jewish male friends who are with asian women. A lot of it is because similarly attractive jewish women wouldn't give those guys the time of day in college and in their early/mid 20's.

Asian-American female here. I am married to a handsome successful Asian-American male. Many Asian guys joke that white guys marry the busted Asian girls. The Asian guys don't necessarily find these women attractive but some nerdy white guy will. Of course there are beautiful Asian women who are with outside races. Also know Asian women who would not date an unattractive Asian man but seem ok with an unattractive white man as long as he is tall and well educated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I don't consider singleness a penalty, and I would hardly be alone. There are plenty of option for black women who want to marry black men. Plenty. Those who say they aren't tend to be the type who are picky. I don't mean picky in a good way I mean the kind of picky where they would excuse a white man for having the same traits they'd find fault in a black man.

This is actually provably false. There are not nearly enough educated black men for all educated black women. Unless you think wanting someone of equal education is "picky."

If you choose to believe the myths perpetuated by fact that's fine. If you want to marry a white man go on and do you. I will not be joining you.

I am not a black woman and these aren't myths. Do you understand numbers? If there are x number of educated black men and y number of educated black women and x is less than y, plus x is made even less because some men are gay/unemployed/not interested in marriage, then there are going to be many unmarried educated black women. That is what you are seeing.

Don't talk down to me dear.
Trust and believe I'd run circles around you when it comes to education.
I understand the numbers that you believe, but it's not reality to say an educated black woman cannot have an educated black man.

For someone who will run circles around others, you seem to be having a hard time understanding basic concepts. The point is not that an educated black woman cannot have an educated black man. It is that the way things stand, it is numically impossible for every educated black woman to have an educated black man.

PP sounds like an angry black woman. They are so defensive. I can see why a man of any race would not find her attractive.

[Anonymous]

There is probably a similar matrix for men seeking women and their BMIs. If BMI is 18 - 25, then highly pursued. If 26 - 29 then occasionally pursued. If 30+, then forget about it...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^I worked on a research project on interracial dating using OK Cupid and Match data. The results, which were released to the media and highly publicized, actually revealed that Asian women are more likely than women of other races to seek out men outside their race, primarily white men. This was measured by looking at how often Asian women initiated interactions and also followed up. They showed far more preference for white men than white men showed for them, and also showed more preference for Hispanic men than Hispanic men showed for them.

All in all, Asian women's success in the dating field is a consequence of smart dating, as opposed to men finding them more attractive. White men are both the most successful men in America and the most numerous men in America. Asian women are playing the numbers very wisely, unlike African American women who continue to act as if dating a white man is a capital offense. It is staggering how many perpetually single African American women I know who are approached by white men, but would rather die single waiting for African American men. They are simply not being rational about their own interests.

Here's an interesting and true stat: If even 5 percent of white men are interested in African American women, that is enough to get every single African American woman under age 44 married. And I can say from research and personal observation that far more than 5 percent of white men are interested in African American women.

frankly, its probably they are regarded as attractive AND they are open to dating outside their race.

Okay, Asian woman, you can believe you are more attractive if you want.

not an asian women and I don't find them physically attractive (I like having them as friends though) but asian women on average don't get fat like the average white woman does. And their skin stays softer and smoother for longer (which even hot white women lose at 28).

So yes I can definitely see why my fellow guys think asian women are 'more' attractive. it's relative - for the 'league' that they can pull, it could very well be that in that tier, asian women are the prettiest. Think of all your jewish male friends who are with asian women. A lot of it is because similarly attractive jewish women wouldn't give those guys the time of day in college and in their early/mid 20's.

Asian-American female here. I am married to a handsome successful Asian-American male. Many Asian guys joke that white guys marry the busted Asian girls. The Asian guys don't necessarily find these women attractive but some nerdy white guy will. Of course there are beautiful Asian women who are with outside races. Also know Asian women who would not date an unattractive Asian man but seem ok with an unattractive white man as long as he is tall and well educated.

You sound disgusting. It speaks volumes that you would marry someone like that. I am in grad school with lots of Asian women who are dating white American men. All of the women are beautiful!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I don't consider singleness a penalty, and I would hardly be alone. There are plenty of option for black women who want to marry black men. Plenty. Those who say they aren't tend to be the type who are picky. I don't mean picky in a good way I mean the kind of picky where they would excuse a white man for having the same traits they'd find fault in a black man.

This is actually provably false. There are not nearly enough educated black men for all educated black women. Unless you think wanting someone of equal education is "picky."

If you choose to believe the myths perpetuated by fact that's fine. If you want to marry a white man go on and do you. I will not be joining you.

I am not a black woman and these aren't myths. Do you understand numbers? If there are x number of educated black men and y number of educated black women and x is less than y, plus x is made even less because some men are gay/unemployed/not interested in marriage, then there are going to be many unmarried educated black women. That is what you are seeing.

Don't talk down to me dear.
Trust and believe I'd run circles around you when it comes to education.
I understand the numbers that you believe, but it's not reality to say an educated black woman cannot have an educated black man.

For someone who will run circles around others, you seem to be having a hard time understanding basic concepts. The point is not that an educated black woman cannot have an educated black man. It is that the way things stand, it is numically impossible for every educated black woman to have an educated black man.

Not every educated black women want an educated black man. Some want women, some want no one, and some want men that are non black. The not enough argument is not a real argument it's nothing, but a scare tatic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I don't consider singleness a penalty, and I would hardly be alone. There are plenty of option for black women who want to marry black men. Plenty. Those who say they aren't tend to be the type who are picky. I don't mean picky in a good way I mean the kind of picky where they would excuse a white man for having the same traits they'd find fault in a black man.

This is actually provably false. There are not nearly enough educated black men for all educated black women. Unless you think wanting someone of equal education is "picky."

If you choose to believe the myths perpetuated by fact that's fine. If you want to marry a white man go on and do you. I will not be joining you.

I am not a black woman and these aren't myths. Do you understand numbers? If there are x number of educated black men and y number of educated black women and x is less than y, plus x is made even less because some men are gay/unemployed/not interested in marriage, then there are going to be many unmarried educated black women. That is what you are seeing.

Don't talk down to me dear.
Trust and believe I'd run circles around you when it comes to education.
I understand the numbers that you believe, but it's not reality to say an educated black woman cannot have an educated black man.

For someone who will run circles around others, you seem to be having a hard time understanding basic concepts. The point is not that an educated black woman cannot have an educated black man. It is that the way things stand, it is numically impossible for every educated black woman to have an educated black man.

PP sounds like an angry black woman. They are so defensive. I can see why a man of any race would not find her attractive.

Yes I must be angry because I don't want to date a white man...

Ingrained racism is a powerful thing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

https://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/race-attraction-2009-2014/

PP statistician here. It has actually been shown repeatedly that men rate women's attractiveness according to which women they think are likely to find them attractive. With African American women's repulsion for men of other races being well known, this explains much of their low attractiveness scores based on ratings by men.

Here's a cool finding (or at least I think it's cool): When we told men in advance that all the African American women in a given pool were very interested in interracial dating, virtually all of the differences in how men rated African American women versus other women disappeared.

Men are very worried about barking up the wrong tree and being harshly rebuffed.

I love this, and think it's true.

Yes. Let's ignore that BLack women have long been portrayed as being unattractive in all of this.

PP statistician here. If you think I am trying to blame black women for anything, you are wrong. I am simply sharing some of my work that is relevant here. I don't think anyone should date who they don't want. There are consequences to racialized dating, but accepting those consequences is your right.

Not directly, but you ar borrowing and relying on data that is influenced by racists notions.

Yes consequences. I'll marry a black man and have black kids. Why is that scary to you and your statistics?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^I worked on a research project on interracial dating using OK Cupid and Match data. The results, which were released to the media and highly publicized, actually revealed that Asian women are more likely than women of other races to seek out men outside their race, primarily white men. This was measured by looking at how often Asian women initiated interactions and also followed up. They showed far more preference for white men than white men showed for them, and also showed more preference for Hispanic men than Hispanic men showed for them.

All in all, Asian women's success in the dating field is a consequence of smart dating, as opposed to men finding them more attractive. White men are both the most successful men in America and the most numerous men in America. Asian women are playing the numbers very wisely, unlike African American women who continue to act as if dating a white man is a capital offense. It is staggering how many perpetually single African American women I know who are approached by white men, but would rather die single waiting for African American men. They are simply not being rational about their own interests.

Here's an interesting and true stat: If even 5 percent of white men are interested in African American women, that is enough to get every single African American woman under age 44 married. And I can say from research and personal observation that far more than 5 percent of white men are interested in African American women.

frankly, its probably they are regarded as attractive AND they are open to dating outside their race.

Okay, Asian woman, you can believe you are more attractive if you want.

not an asian women and I don't find them physically attractive (I like having them as friends though) but asian women on average don't get fat like the average white woman does. And their skin stays softer and smoother for longer (which even hot white women lose at 28).

So yes I can definitely see why my fellow guys think asian women are 'more' attractive. it's relative - for the 'league' that they can pull, it could very well be that in that tier, asian women are the prettiest. Think of all your jewish male friends who are with asian women. A lot of it is because similarly attractive jewish women wouldn't give those guys the time of day in college and in their early/mid 20's.

Asian-American female here. I am married to a handsome successful Asian-American male. Many Asian guys joke that white guys marry the busted Asian girls. The Asian guys don't necessarily find these women attractive but some nerdy white guy will. Of course there are beautiful Asian women who are with outside races. Also know Asian women who would not date an unattractive Asian man but seem ok with an unattractive white man as long as he is tall and well educated.

You sound disgusting. It speaks volumes that you would marry someone like that. I am in grad school with lots of Asian women who are dating white American men. All of the women are beautiful!

I also dated several white guys before I got married. Of course attractive Asian women date white guys. Half my Asian girlfriends are married to white guys. All the Asian kids in my son's kindergarten class are actually half white.

I have not heard the jokes for over a decade.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^I worked on a research project on interracial dating using OK Cupid and Match data. The results, which were released to the media and highly publicized, actually revealed that Asian women are more likely than women of other races to seek out men outside their race, primarily white men. This was measured by looking at how often Asian women initiated interactions and also followed up. They showed far more preference for white men than white men showed for them, and also showed more preference for Hispanic men than Hispanic men showed for them.

All in all, Asian women's success in the dating field is a consequence of smart dating, as opposed to men finding them more attractive. White men are both the most successful men in America and the most numerous men in America. Asian women are playing the numbers very wisely, unlike African American women who continue to act as if dating a white man is a capital offense. It is staggering how many perpetually single African American women I know who are approached by white men, but would rather die single waiting for African American men. They are simply not being rational about their own interests.

Here's an interesting and true stat: If even 5 percent of white men are interested in African American women, that is enough to get every single African American woman under age 44 married. And I can say from research and personal observation that far more than 5 percent of white men are interested in African American women.

frankly, its probably they are regarded as attractive AND they are open to dating outside their race.

Okay, Asian woman, you can believe you are more attractive if you want.

not an asian women and I don't find them physically attractive (I like having them as friends though) but asian women on average don't get fat like the average white woman does. And their skin stays softer and smoother for longer (which even hot white women lose at 28).

So yes I can definitely see why my fellow guys think asian women are 'more' attractive. it's relative - for the 'league' that they can pull, it could very well be that in that tier, asian women are the prettiest. Think of all your jewish male friends who are with asian women. A lot of it is because similarly attractive jewish women wouldn't give those guys the time of day in college and in their early/mid 20's.

Asian-American female here. I am married to a handsome successful Asian-American male. Many Asian guys joke that white guys marry the busted Asian girls. The Asian guys don't necessarily find these women attractive but some nerdy white guy will. Of course there are beautiful Asian women who are with outside races. Also know Asian women who would not date an unattractive Asian man but seem ok with an unattractive white man as long as he is tall and well educated.

that's a fair point. the asian women that jewish guys are pulling aren't the HK model types or kpop hotties.